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Devs should stop blaming bounty hunters for dumping ,they work hard to promote your projects and they have every right to do what they like with the tokens if this is really what you don't want then

Don't pay bounty hunters in your tokens ,pay them in USD ,USDC or ETHEREUM to avoid dumping your tokens and that will have positive impact on your tokens ,dumping will always happen and if the project is a strong one then it will quickly recover

The work of a bounty hunter is not worth the USD value of tokens they receive - hence projects will most likely not start paying in USD, or if they do, the payout would be lower than the payout in tokens.
A cleaner solution will be locking BH tokens and unlocking some percentage every month.

Just pay them in Bitcoin or USD then it will solved their problem. The thing is they doesn't want to shell out money, then all wanted to reached their goal of raising millions of dollars and yet when bounty hunters wanted to sell to get their rewards then they start complaining. Fix the payment not in their tokens then everything will be solved.

I guess this is not necessary when they have confident about the potential of their concepts and hence the success of their project. When you are running your project with the real-time applications then you never need to bother about paying bounty rewards in your own tokens/coins and then about getting dumping out. Because, there will be enough adopters and investors to bump over the times. Only condition is, your project must remain attractive.

This will definitely solve, I agree. But, it may prevent the chances of other investors who usually look for buying at dips. I am a kind of investor who take time to analyze hence I never rush for ICO contributions but I will buy in open market if a project is convincing me. At those times, I wait for bounty hunters to dump.

Your cleaner solution can not be applied because it will be mere cheat
Bounty hunters invested time, data and their intelligence

Why should they have tokens locked ?? When investors have their 100% to dunped at a go ??

Best way is to have a good working product

I fully share the opinion of the author of the topic. Moreover, I believe that bounty hunters need to be given a choice of currency as a reward for a job well done. This choice should consist of at least two options, such as usd and the coin of the advertised project.

I guess there's not a working solution right now. Yes, they could offer fix payment rates, but this market is open, I mean everyone wanted to take advantage of every dip, so as investors, it maybe consider fraudulent, but dumping by bounty hunters are what we're waiting for, so that we can buy it cheap.

So it's really hard to come out with a solution that will solve this problem. And there's nothing to blame here since everything is a free-for-all market.

If they can pay by BTC, ETH or USDT, the results are amazing. Apparently they no longer have to fear the bounty hunter dumping their tokens. Haha!

In recent times, devs are working in different manner. They are not focusing on their concepts nor on real life application development but they are focusing only on listing their coin/broken into highly reputed exchange and then keep bumping it to make it attractive enough. This way they are getting continuous investors and traders to pump and dump their coin and then they are making lots of money out of it.

From this kind of devs, how we can expect they are bothering about taking measurements for preventing their coins from getting dumped. I believe this kind of devs just focus on making their coin/token to be attractive and that is not based on concepts and real success of their project but attractive as a trading asset.

But, I believe they cannot sustain for long time without having actual progress with their projects only in short term they may manage making their project attractive but in long run people will never get failed to analyse what are the progress is going on with their project.

I am also looking for high volume coins for short-term trading. In this case I may choose a coin like you have mentioned but for long term holding definitely I will look for fundamentals in those times they cannot make up a project like it is being attractive without having actual developments. Hence, they may get failed over the time.

I think that this will not happen, I Think that the easiest way to distribute tokens is within three months after the end of the ICO. For example, a month to pay 25 percent in two months 25 and the third month of trade should be good trading volumes, then you can send people a large pool of 50 percent. I think that this approach will bring stability to the coin !)

Why not? There is nothing wrong of paying them with tokens. If the devs are scared of huge volume of dumping right after the coin was listed on exchanges then they can't do anything to stop it. They don't hav3 the right to control the will of their holders.

On the other side, if they choose to give eth or usd to their bounty hunters as a for of payment then how they will increase the demand for their coin and are they prepared to spent more for eth funds despite the fact that their project is not yet starting? For me, it was a good idea in a sense that you can easily attract bounty applicants but not really helpful for the project itself.

You are right, there is nothing wrong with that. However there is no other way. Method of rewarding promoters with token they are promoting got terminated, used up. Most of us are already tired with the idea. Scheme of things stayed unchanged for way to many years, people finally starting to realise that nothing of value will come out of such projects because of initial dump. It discourages late investors. Sooner devs will start to spend some usable cash on their project promotion, the better.
There are so many ways of doing this, not even worth to count the possibility's, it can also be done quite cheaply.
All its required is a devs will for taking at least some risk.

Even if your opinion got replied from most of the developer here, USDC and USDT and USDS can be dumped too if all of the bounty users selling it right away after get paid

IMHO, devs aren't really the ones that blames the bounty hunters but it is those investors that seem to be faithful to that project and decided to go long term with their coin. But in the progress, when they see the coin starts to be dumped the first suspect that comes to their minds are the bounty hunters. How much was the allocated tokens for those bounty hunters? 1%? 2%?

A single digit of allocation for the whole circulation of that token economy won't really affect the market. Well can't also blame them for thinking that way because most of the bounty hunters are known to dump their tokens quickly for quick buck.

There is no solution for dumping  as investors are also dumping their coins and not only the hunters do. People are jumping into  investments without proper research  and they are not patient enough and expecting quick profit. When it does not happen they dump.

I agree with you, that's what i have really thoght before, the project should give stable token or tether instead of their project, so you can set the dump of your project.

I don't think  only bounty hunters is the reason of dumping price of a project. It depends on the project movement and the liquidity  of any exchange where the token/coin listed. Most of the project are now deferent before ico and after ico. If a project team work hard and keep their promise  after finishing ico then the  price of token will not be acffected more by bounty hunters.  Thanks

And what an interesting idea! After all, on the ICO, the project team collects funds on the Ether. They could really pay bounty hunters in it.
True, in practice I had only 3 such projects. And it was great (it was not necessary to wait for the token to go to the exchange, to engage in the exchange).

Is that true ? Any link to see that information?
That would be a wrong way if they really blame the promoters because the price dumped. I was just surprised, because there weren't many bounty hunters who complained because they didn't get the profit they wanted.
That will be a contradiction, when the ICO project is used to look for initial capital so that their projects get success. But when the Devs ICO project pays for each participant with altcoin such as ETH or USDT, they have to find more capital to pay for the budget. Indeed, that is a good choice when bounty hunters are paid with ETH or USDT but they must have a large amount of capital at least.

You are very right. These project managers know very well that the primary reason why a bounty Hunter gets involved in a bounty is to make cash. Rewarding bounty hunters in USDT OR BTC OR ETH is a sure way to preserve their tokens and retain it's value but if they let out all the money raised during ICO, what then is the future of the token

Good God ! This was my idea for months and I am glad to see people who think as like me. If they think the problem is bounty hunters, this is the only solution. But sometimes before the bounty awards are distributed, the tokens are listed on exchanges and their prices crash. So who is the guilty?

Why are bounty hunters not worthy to receive USDT ETH or BTC? They work for projects and they should be paid by ETH or BTC rather than paying for these tokens are not priced in this market

I like your advice, but that doesn't seem possible because now ICC is garbage. Dev only wants to get money and they don't have the desire to throw money only for bounty hunters. and I think dev is one of the parties responsible for dumping on the market. they have a large token allocation.

Your opinion is good also there are some bounties i have done which have paid in ETH as payment. But sad thing is allotment for this of Bounties are kept very low. Instead i will suggest to devs to lock up tokens for private and Pre-sale participants for at least a year or 6 months which may help.

ingenious decision. but we all understand that their words about the bounty hunters fault in the dump are just excuses.

If the project is strong the bounty hunter can't dump the price, i have seen it many times. With the strong projects many investors waits for the bounty hunters to buy more. But ofcourse those projects number is limited, we can say mostly %3 sadly. And also in background there are too many intrigue from project and telegram admins..

the solution to being able to withstand dumping is to stop giving bad news in some media and telling all the governments in the world to be able to provide support for cryptocurrency so it is certain that dumping will stop and for bounty hunters it is better to pay with USD which has very many supporters and is difficult to collapse.

This would solve all the problems, because in 99 percent of all cases, a new coin is going to be dumped on exchanges, because of the bounty hunters, that are trying to earn some Ethereum or Bitcoin.

From what is happening, what i can say, is that most developers do not yet know what they should do to correct it, which means the working formular is what most do not know.
I can still see some projects making good progress and their prices rising, despite hunters being involved.
Hunters are not the main cause to the dump, the project itself should be checked.

You know that to maintain and develop a project requires a lot of money, so they can't pay you usd, usdt eth, btc. This may make them financially exhausted and cannot continue to develop the project. Distributing token to bounty hunters is also a goal to help them develop their communities.

Your solution has also been applied, There are a number of projects that pay for bounty hunters using ETH or USDT, but the problem is that not many projects are willing to do that. If paid by ETH, or USDT, the bounty Pool will not be attracted by pool bounty for millions of dollars calculated by token.

Good advice, but do you want to be paid some $ for your hard work for a few months?
it's not comparable, isn't it. this will obviously only create new problems. I would prefer if dev released their platform first before starting ICO. so after that the service can be used by the user. or at least they already have the BETA version.

this will make investors more confident and keep holding. rather than making them pay bounty hunters with USD.

The problem will not be resolved if the reward fee is a token, this will reduce the price and there is no value, I agree what they say, the bounty hunter uses the best bitcoin or ethereum so the token will be maintained and stable.

There is a better suggestion, when paying the bounty hunters every time Dev should lock in their pay, it's up to how long, this is to keep the bounty hunters throwing away their fees

good but what if they only raise funds until the softcap can't burden them. and in the end they will definitely sell tokens that are not sold to the stock when listing later. it will create a new problem isn't it. and if they use a percentage instead of the FIX value for bounty allocation it will be very painful for those who participate. imagine if their sales only reach 10K ETH and the bounty allocation is only 2%. so that means the total allocation for all campaigns is only 200 ETH. it doesn't make sense.

I agree with you, this will only create new problems. I can imagine if Iico was extended and certainly it was not comparable to what we had done.

a solution to prevent token dumps after the end of the ico could be to pay the bounty hunters in usd, btc or eth but this will almost never happen since with tokens they are paid at 0 cost, another solution would be to block the tokens for a certain period that can not be moved for one or two months

Ta here is not something to say, bounty hunters will not be able to lower the price by selling their coins, there are many reasons for this, starting with the fact that payments to hunters are paid with a long delay and ending with the fact that a very small part is allocated on the bounty which is not able to affect anything.

those who throw away must have certain reasons, this might be done for fear of losing the price of their tokens. I know it's good to do, but it doesn't have to be all thrown away. there are times when waiting until the price really matches what was expected before. trading requires a good technical method, if the token has good development potential in the future, then hold on.

We have the freedom once dev distributed the rewards especially if they are already in exchanges which is it has buy and sell. It's up to them, they have another option just to prevent the scenario. Bounty hunters can't be controlled and they have their own choices to make.

I don't think this makes sense!
If they pay with BTC, ETH, USDC
then what is the point of bounty hunter promoting the they project ?
All cryptocurrency will pump and dump, if they pay us with ETH, this also won't be profitable unless the price is pump

I am also for a payment in bitcoin or ethereum. So the problem would finally be solved and no one can accuse the bountie hunters anymore. But i also think that not all bountie hunter dump their tokens but rather the ico participants, who bought their token cheap with a big bonus.

IMO, it should be easy to detect whenever the bounty hunter really succedd to reach their marketing strategy or not.

It's not a problem , the problem only how to attract more investor on crypto because basically, cryptocurrency become high demand investment because of them, Investor !

In fact, if the bounty hunters were paid in eth or usd it would not be so convenient for them to promote the various ico, but regardless of bounty hunter the value of tokens is destined to go down once listed on exchange because investors want to hove their profit as soon as possible

This is what i am thinking for a long time.
well we have BTC campaign before which the participants get paid with BITCOIN.
but it is gone now and now i am thinking. The team should trust their project ICO and they know and will do everything for the token to have more value than ICO.
But why they are giving away tokens if they know bounty participants will make it fall. they should pay in ETHEREUM or BITCOIN.

Agree with you, everyone can't fully blaming on bounty hunter regarding dumping on their token after listed on exchanger, devs can make other payment method to avoid dumping, they can pay with Stable currency like USDT or balance in e-money (paypal, skrill, netteler).

I find it difficult to agree with you. Bounty hunters are the same investors in the project. And I also do not understand why so many bounty hunters sell their rewards so cheaply. After all, if the project is good, its tokens will grow after a while and bounty hunters having sold it later will be able to earn several times more money.

Personally, I do not understand how 2% of the collected funds can drastically affect the course. And this is taking into account that if all the bounty hunters sell the earned tokens. But this is not happening. A sale of a maximum of 30-40%. The rest of the hold. So again, the same question?) Why do developers constantly blame bounty hunters?)

I agree with you, because constantly bounty hunters are accused of selling as soon as they receive tokens, but in fact more often sell investors. Bounty hunters are not opposed to Bitcoin or Ethereum.

Yes. The real solution to dumping is me and you holding what we have and decide to sell it above or within the range of the ico price. Paying hunters in usd, utsd and so on can help stop the blame on bounty hunters only. But the real dumper are the urge investors.

I think you are right. The only solution to Bounty Hunters dumping tokens is for project developers to start paying for services rendered in stable coins and tokens. This will be beneficial to both the hunters and the project. It will reduce dumping and also improve the value of the project tokens.

We can not judge now the main reason for dumping the price of the project currency in light of the dump of the bitcoin and all the cryptocurrencies in the markets, from my point of view, bounty hunters are not a big reason to dump the project's currency, Because the project if it is able to succeed through its goals and capabilities the project will achieve this with its great potential, and the bounty hunters are promoters of the project If the distribution of the currencies of the project as a reward for them is dumping the price of the currency, the solution to exchange those currencies to USD, USDC or ETH Or the top 100 coins in coinmarketcap, The important thing is that the project gets the benefit and therefore the interest and money will be spread to its promoters.

No one can stop bounty hunters from doing what ever they want with their coin because many have tried in the past to keep some bounty rewards hoping that it will appreciate in value but they end up blaming themselves. Many project are not worth it,so selling is the best option.

it's difficult to avoid dumping from bounty hunters , the only solution from project that if the project is good, of course the trader will be high , and certainly will make the dumping action only look fast

If the market is 80% you think they want to pay? They have one way to charge cryptocurrency hunters in a flop. I think this is very stupid. But I would not refuse to receive normal coins. And do not worry every time I did the work and for that I did not receive anything.

Well, this could be a great solution to dumping and developers blaming it on bounty hunters. However, this would be difficult in most cases...to run an ICO thrn pay hunters in USD

Paying bounty hunters in USD, Ethereum wouldn't be a bad idea at all but the question we should be asking them us how much are they going to pay. Did a project that we were paid in Eth once but the pay was very bad

Well, you already said it yourself. If the project is good enough, then price itself will start recovering soon. If the project is shit, then no way the price goes back up. So do you really think the developers of the shitty project will be spending money for paying the bounty hunter? Nope, they never will. The dump will happen at the start, but the price will get back to initial position if the project is a success. This means the price also helps us evaluate how successful the project will me.

Not all projects are willing to pay bounty hunters dollars or bitcoins. In this case, they not will receive a lot. And getting a token gives them the opportunity to get unlimited profit. Also bounty hunters don't have that many tokens so they can roll the price. I have seen cases where the price collapsed because of investors, as they have much more tokens.

Hunters and developers must be able to work together with each other well because both of them need each other for the same purpose, namely profit in different ways. We are on a risky road, there should be no fraud because it is very detrimental to bounty hunters who work well but are not valued at all. We must be able to understand each other to create a good generation in the future.

It's not so bad as you said and it's not a bad idea dude and look at how some projects have already used this idea and all of things are working very smooth. That depends no how much allocated to the bounty. if the team was allocating a little amount to the bounty and don't expect a lot of money.

I think that's one way to do it. It's up to the bounty hunter if he's contented to receive such amount or prefer tokens, which you don't know how much it would be valued once receive or will it ever be received? But the problem is, most projects really don't have the funds to pay their bounty hunters either in btc, eth or usd. They mostly rely on the collected funds.

That was discussed here many times and it is true that 2% of tokens can´t affect the price and not all bounty hunters are selling their tokens.
Also postICO tokens that didn´t run bounty are in a big loss thanks to bear market and not caused by bounty hunters.

It happens that bounty hunters will easily dump their tokens once it is listed to the exchanges. Though isn't greatly affect its price as it only a pity amount for the total numbers but it somehow it makes the price into falling. It is the owners who makes strategies in order not to happen after distributing the rewards for the participants.  

There should be an option to take either ethereum / tether /  their own token. This would indeed prove once and for all that it is not the bounty hunters that are dumping the coin into the ground but the early pre-sale investors, and most likely the project team staff themselves

Bounty hunters do have the right to sell the coin after they being paid, so the developers need to think ways to avoid that happened, from the bounty hunters side, it's better to be paid in eth, btc or usd rather in token, but sometimes the developers don't have the capital and paying in token means there will be a hope for a bigger transaction volume

if it is possible to pay with USD, it will be even better and make it easier for the bounty hunter to finish doing his job.

That's a good idea, but they do not have ready funds to pay them with Bitcoin, Ethereum and other tradeable coins, I read that in the old days ICO pays people with Bitcoin, where does this comes from that bounty hunters are the one to blame for the dumping we are all getting 2 to 5 % of the total supply, this is a big lie.

of course, paid for with coins that already have the price be craving all the bounty hunter. However, it took a big capital to be able to realize it. but there are some who pay with ethereum and that's good enough. purpose of paying with coins from the ICO no other also aims to promote the coins to a lot of people I think.

Real solution for dump or lower price for altcoin or new ICO after listing at exchange market is buy back by ico owner, I thinks is the best solution how to make new ico price will be on higher and keep under of ICO price.

The suggestion is great, although we cannot prevent those dumping of price value, but we cannot blame the speculation in the community because this is somewhat true in the sense that majority of all bounty hunters might sell their tokens after they receive it. Although this is a corrrect suggestion, but this might not be the correct way, the purpose of paying also the tokens is that in order to scatter the tokens to the community to have the users of the project increasing, we bounty hunters should be aware of that, I think, for me the best solution is to hold half of our tokens.

I accept this solution as well, paying bounty hunters in a different coins will not affect the actually token price but I still think that dumping in bear market is what makes token lose price more,if market return to normal state dumping won't affect much

It's true but you know in this bearish market it's hard to survive for a lot of good projects. If bounty hunters dump in this situation, project will definitely suffer a lot. It will not be easier to recover in such a market condition.

The solution is good, it will not dump the token so investors will benefit on this.
However if the rate is low, I don't think they will attract bounty hunters, payment should be reasonable.

One solution I see that is working is to delay the bounty distribution up to a certain period or divide it into period.

Agree, and if they do really have problems with hunters dumping their tokens, don't have any bounties at all.

If things can be discussed before the bounty starts then I can agree that dividing the rewards can help both bounty hunters and the developing team, as they can allocate small amount of funds from each period of payment, allowing real investors and new players to work alongside with the promise progress coming from the team.

Though allocated funds for bounties is just a small portions of actual collected money but if being dumped simultaneously it will bring impact to it's daily trade and surely it will affect the project.

I think we need halfway with all of your suggestions. I think it is better if they will pay bounty hunters with upfront after the campaign then pay the other percentage to tokens. That way, some bounty hunters will have money especially when some of them are full-time and depending on their received rewards. But as for us, don't expect that we will have that big amount in USD.

In regard to this setup, I think they need to limit the participants so every participant will have that maximum potential value of their rewards.

If the market is red and b bearish then the token/coin will automatically dump as no one want to lose so the best solution is pay bounty hunters in USD or BTC equivalent to the bounty coins/token. As the token go live the bounty hunter if wish they can purchase the tokens with USD or BTC and this will impact positively on the project.

you first have to ask yourself "why do people dump"? then you can easily figure out what the solution to that is.

the answer is pretty simple, people dump things that are useless and altcoins, specifically the ICO tokens, are useless. everyone only bought or received them as a way to make some quick profit and when they make that, it means they have already reached their goals. so there is no reason for them to keep holding something that has served its purpose. hence comes the dumping.

what is the solution? start creating something that is useful instead of useless shitcoins.

2 percent of the whole amount of tokens should not affect anything.
They are not really blaming it to the bounty hunter. It is the investors that thinks it is the bounties that dumps the value which is wrong.
It is actually the listing in an exchange that makes the difference. A target for traders. A new coin will surely pump in an early stage but once traders got their profit out of it then it is goodbye.

The dump will happen afterwards and so they think that it is the bounties that was the culprit.

I have also think and see so many reason not to blame bounty hunter for dumping of any token or coin in exchange when first listed , I have seen so many project that has not distribute to hunters but have dumping record which show listing on good exchange also have a good effect on any token as some exchange are just crab and also contribute to dumping of the token , so I advice any project to try as much as possible and get listed on top exchange which will at least reduce the dumping of the token.

All problem isn't Bounty hunters to dump market. I know so many projects and ethereum offered for bounty after seeing this dump market but still now huge dump this token.

Regardless of what they think, still you cannot change that fact that somehow those bounty hunters who just sell at any price affects the market.
2% would not matter and will not cause a dump if the 98% of the supply are present when the coins are live in trading sites.

At least, the bounty hunters know that their hard work will go to be paid so they can use that money to something else. I think if the bounty hunters dump their tokens, the dev and the teams should make a strategy to prevent that things, so both bounty hunters and the teams don't have to worry if the price is fallen to deep. The bounty hunters will sell the rewards because they need that money and if the project were very good, the dumping would not make the project is down too deep.

I agree with you. Bounty hunters joined the campaign with the intention to earn and sell off their rewards and not to hodl their tokens long-term like investors. I think as long as they did their job well to market and spread awareness about the project, they have the right to be paid and do whatever they want from it.

It has already been said that bounty hunters are hardly involved in the collapse of the price. They have a certain number of tokens, but this is only a small percentage of all available tokens, and it is even more unlikely that all bounty hunters will throw coins at once. Many of them hold their tokens for long term. In any case, if the team is not ready for the fact that its price was falling after releasing its token to the exchanges, then they should take care that the price is kept at the right level.

I never see dev blaming bounty hunter because dump, and i think you must know bounty hunter only receive about 1-3% from total supplay, then 1-3% split to 1000 address bounty hunter, maybe 5000 address even more. So 1person only receive about 0,000xx%, do you think can dump?? And not all bounty hunter sell their token immediately

Escrow accounts will be a great addition to the words of TS, as the number of projects that try not to pay(or pay less) has increased significantly in the last few months.

If developers team believe their project have a good value in the future, they should not worry about bounty hunters dumping their reward. I have seen many good coin recover the price after bounty hunters dump the token and the price recover above ICO price

Shame on a project that afraid of dumping. If they scared, itu means that they don't have true believers. And, what if the most of sellers are from the team that needs more fund?

Do you know why they are paying us in tokens? Because tokens are not real money, nobody wants to send real money for some easy tasks, look at moneymaking methods on the internet and you will know it ;).

Perhaps it is indeed a logical reason. but many who expect at least paid with coins that are more feasible so as to be able to feel and look at the results. a lot is happening they are paid but could not enjoy the results of the work they do. Although an easy job still takes time and effort to do it.

That's not going to happen. 90% of the projects being made are scams trying to make some quick buck. They won't pay people even a cent which is why they pay token which they made and which cost nothing to them. That's the reason why I don't bounty hunt now. I'll wait for a couple more months to see what will happen.

One of the ways to reduce dumping of crypto assets in exchanges which depreciates the value of many tokens is by paying bounty participants in either Ethereum or Bitcoin. And any bounty hunter or investor who wants any tokens should buy them from exchanges.

HAHAHA they blaming us because their coins are shitcoins that  no investor wants to buy at a cheap price.
some good coins can survive even in a bearish like this and I think they blame us because they have no other reason to say.

I as a bounty hunter also have the right to do whatever on my token because it is my effort's fruit but it is also the developer's right to give us whatever they said on the ICO of campaign they started. We are just like employees here so we don't have really the right to decide what they should pay for us in any currency or any means. But also i like it when they starts to pay on another form rather than their own coin, win-win situation for both sides.

actually there are already campaigns ( incl.  bounty / ico ) that pays in eth and btc  or any other top altcoins  . the only problem is its verry rare to find them . some are not running for a longer time while some are paying little to less  .  some even pays with mix tokens/alts plus top cryptos  .  that is really the solution if they want to avoid dumping thier tokens but they need to sacrifies some cold cash because its pretty costy  indeed .

There are some platforms have proven it through paid the bounty hunters with USDT and any other major coin and so far it can prevent the dump from the market. Remember this the only correct answer to get the big liquidity. if you can't and just use major crypto as the main choice.

I agree they should not blaming bounty hunters because they work hard to promote the project, let them sell the tokens because they want money, I believe that one day the price of the token will pump if the project is promising.

I would best find a mix of new token and maybe ethereum or bitcoin. Such a payment would cover everything. So you would have a safe payment through eth or btc plus a few token. Even if the tokens are not worth anything, you still got a value as a payment. That is why i think this solution is best.

The only logical solution to dumping since developers are of the opinion that bounty hunters are the major reason why their tokens gets dumped hard upon listing on exchanges.....is paying bounty hunters in etheruem or any other altcoins that is not the ico token.
Uits very simple that way and would save every party involved from the blame games.

First you need to say about which ico we talk about, different icos have different total supply of coins, and based on that they give maybe maximum 10% of tokens to bounty hunters, maybe even less, how much this 10% can affect project generally?
We can see bounty that pays in ethereum, for example, and in their tokens, for me that`s a sign that project is very serious, but there will not be many of them. This practice with paying with tokens from ico will continue to exist for a long time.

We all knew that dumping is part of this business, for me the solution i did was hold and wait, because i know that dumping is a normal situations that happen and i do really believed that recovering is also always in a way on it any time.

in my opinion not only the bounty hunters sell it if it's already on the market but what I see for now is that most of the traders who sell their tokens as soon as possible without thinking about the future of the token,

Bounty hunters can't be the reason of dumping of a project price.The main reasons come from the project team.Sometimes they can't keep their motive clear. If the project team work hard and keep their commitment same after and before ico, the price will not much affected by bounty hunters.

Yes, I agree with your opinion. I often see, after the distribution of tokens and in listings in the market. If a dump occurs, what is blamed is bounty hunters. I think negatively in this matter. If we see the total tokens that are sold with those distributed for bounties it is not appropriate. How can a bounty hunter be blamed.

Previously, all bounty campaigns paid their members exclusively with Ethereum or Bitcoins. Then it was the best time to participate in bounty campaigns.
Now bounty hunters agree to work for tokens of projects that are unknown how much they will cost. You're right. This is also the fault of the project developers.

Or just paying less would work too. 5% bounty is just insane amount to assume that there suddenly would be buy walls to support that. And not only bounty hunters are dumping, if there's a -50% sale, it sure as hell makes some sell pressure in the future. And the advisors seem to get a lot too. Why shouldn't they dump? If someone paid me huge amounts for basically not doing anything, i wouldn't say no to that either.

This is the part where most Dev use to get it wrong. They blame hunters for dumping that it the cause of the reason why their token becomes worthless? This is absolutely a great joke. This days ICO sells to private Investors at a very cheap rate with Amazing bonuses attached to it. This is what happens, those private Investors usually receive the tokens on time before Bounty hunters and they dump and move over to the next projects. This is it. I was among those who Participated in UCHAIN Bounty. When Dev/Investors where trying to blame hunters who haven't received token for dumping, Bounty managers Goblin were there defending hunters they ain't responsible for that. It was so funny. On the other hand, I do not think project this days have the resources to pay hunters in USDT, BTC or ETHEREUM except some strong base project and such campaign is usually handle by top Bounty managers in the space.

In my opinion, the developers should give the bounty hunters award once a month. Then everything will be much easier. Some of the coins will be lost on the wallets. The other part will be forgotten and the third part will be exchanged for other coins. Thus, the initial selling volume will be reduced when the coin enters the exchange. I think everyone will be happy with it.

Is it really the bounty hunters are dumping and not those greedy devs? As far as I know, most devs are the ones that making the dumps first and then the investors and yet the bounty hunters wouldn't have enough time to react on the losing price already because some of their stakes were given after 2-3 weeks.

Different project teams have now devices means, to prevent dump of their tokens, because they belief bounty hundreds are the cause of dumb. Sometimes they lock the tokens paid to bounty participants. There sometimes postpone the payment for bounty, yet some tokens still dump.
I am just trying to figure some tji GS put to see the number of projects that are doing this and to also check if truly most did not dump.

Give away project tokens for early at the time of major sales. What tokens could sell to investors. This is a good solution to all problems. And everyone will be happy.

Maybe this is a good solution if the prize is paid with Ethereum or USD. Because this will keep the price of the coin stable and not fall after entering the stock market. Even coins will grow and investors, I think, will invest more.

I think that solutions quite a lot, really a lot, so projects that are crying that it's all bounty hunters, in my eyes instantly fall.

You have a point. If the project is good and has a potential then they don't need to bother bounty hunters and blame if their token dump. Or if they don't want to pay for hunters,simply they don't ask hunters to promote their project. There are many projects that blaming hunters for dumping their tokens. Why? Where is their strategy to keep their project attractive and where is their investors? Hunters do their best to support and promote the project that's why they are deserve to be paid whatever happen to the project.

You offered a great solution, I fully support it, but most developers will not agree. But in the future your idea is sure to be popular.

Are they effective or people are doing it? I don't think that they used those things in order to stop from dumping. For the huge numbers of bounty hunters,  we cant stop them from selling their coins in cheap cause we are not controlling them.

This is a question that has always played out on my mind for a while now but the bitter truth is that there is no perfect solution to dumping as this is mainly controlled by prevailing market conditions. A key method of attempting to limit dumping is by ensuring that tokens have a specific use case before hitting the market as this will ensure buy orders are rolling in. Another reasonable method is the locking of some tokens for a fixed period of time in order to ensure demand exceeds supply of the tokens. All this should actually play their part in ensuring that price of the specific tokens remains stable.

And we are only need big liquidity to prevent them all, used the coin with big liquidity to pay the hunters can prevent all of these problems and at the same time it has become the best choice. Some platforms have proven it in the past and it can keep the price from dump.

The original, brilliant idea of spreading the word/advertising organically, via the Internet still works, particularly when large crowds focus their intent on a sustained daily/weekly basis.  However, this continued "bear" market in cryptocurrencies has lasted long enough to distort the average participant/enthusiasts' perception to the point where a lot of people are asking themselves if this is all worth it (capitulation?)  We don't see this sort of massive, focused advertising, such as found in bounties, anywhere else but in crypto.  Hmm.  Makes you wonder why it feels like we are all collectively barking into the void/wind.  Bounty activity is the BEST kind of Internet advertising in the world, yet it's going nowhere, world-wide.  What's going on?

The cause of the sustained bear market in cryptos is no different than the sustained bear markets in any other asset that directly competes with the current fiat world reserve currency for dominance.  As has been the case nearly every time this millennium, the group with 'unlimited' resources has managed to come out on top somehow, up until now.  The Internet is breaking the monopoly.  It's up to us regular folks to recognize this and take advantage.

Generations and generations (millions?) of progress have been wasted/thwarted under the yoke of oppression we are still witnessing today.  Despite their 'unlimited' resources and throwing everything and the kitchen sink to avoid a change in the status quo, our tiny group of crypto-enthusiasts compared to the size of the worlds' population is causing such a gigantic response from our 'handlers', perceptive individuals see that simply continuing on the course we are on as the eventual bridge to our dreams of individual and sovereign freedom.

If we have these bastards this nervous so early in the inevitable paradigm shift, it should not surprise anyone that if we keep pressing ahead and spreading the word like prophets, our efforts will lead to generational profits.

many comments that blame the bounty hunter. I think that many people are involved in this problem.
more potential investors to throw tokens with a greater amount than bounty hunters.
investors do not have insight into projects in the future so they sell them.

It will be more difficult for the ICO if they decide to pay with USD. Where will they get that from? They even struggle to raise up to a million dollar from the tokens sales.

I also agree that why many people blame bounty hunters when they just sell and receive their achievements. If projects want to control the amount of tokens are sold in market in the first time, they can lock it for the certain time and announce clearly for participants

Never say bitcoin hunter is dump all of coin price, how ever with little allocation from all of coin impossible bounty hunter could make price dump, just check only 2 until 3% token allocation for bounty participants and 30% for team and its why price will be dump.

Yes, this will be a good solution for the development of tokens. If the hunter is paid with USD or Ethereum it is very good because it can improve the quality of Ethereum coins. Even though it's paid in USD, it's also very good. So the token developed does not immediately collapse when the person is registered in the exchange market.

I think avoiding a dumping is a bit tricky, by dividing the reward into several times of distribution also not so effective to prevent dumping, I think its just delaying the dumping, cause everyone who get rather small amount of coin will wait until all of the coins distributed before they sell them.

If their projects pay for bounty hunters with BTC, ETH, .. I think the cryptocurrency market will appear lots of bounty hunters and maybe the reward for us will be much lower  :)

The point you said is very reasonable, but the project party will only pay the token as a job. For them, the token is free and there is no need to pay any legal currency as a publicity fee.

A good idea, paying bounty participants with Altcoin might be a solution to not token dumps. If you still pay the token, the price of the token is definitely destroyed after the listing on the market.

It makes more sense to pay bounty hunters in altcoins or other means than paying with a new launched token to prevent dumping but it seems that most developers don't have the money to pay other than relying on there own token to pay bounty hunters so I guess the devs are the only ones who can control dumping

maybe more to the USD, the problem is if it is changed from token to etherum, etherum will also be dumped if shared simultaneously with the bounty hunter.

I think they already know that dumping is going to happen because of bounty hunters but they can't implement those payments because they also need the money. I think I only have seen 1 or 2 ICO projects that offered eth while btc on signature campaigns before but now it is entirely paid by their tokens.

They should blame themselves because they are the one who implement the bounty system and it's guidelines.
I think I don't see a lot of devs blaming the bounty hunters because it's a big insult to them, what I see is that investors are blaming bounty hunters for the price dump.

IMHO problem of dumping is that ICO team after they got a lot of money just relaxed) their main goal is to take our money not to create great project) I don't see on a great projects that someone sold their bounty tokens at the first second on the exchange. This can happen only if ICO team doing strange things - changing rules, lying and most people don't see this. If ICO was good I holding my tokens. For example still holding UTT tokens) Even when cost - 70% from ICO)

Blaming bounty hunters is not right, but if you do as you say and pay not in tokens, then the pools will be much less!

I think their is no solution in dumping but the dumping only last in 1 month after the dumpers sell their token in cheap price ;D But if the ICO is a working project i think they will HODL their coin and wait for the mooning ;)

I completely agree with you, mate. However, paying bounty hunters in a different coun than the project's one would be difficult as one of the reasons the payments are made in the own coin is to create an initial volume. This doesn't mean that the price must decrease as if the project is good enough there will be a strong demand for the coin, too, and the price shouldn't be affected too much.

Also, bounty programs have usually less than 4-5% from a coin's supply, so even if the price might decrease, this should have only a temporary effect.

Developer have job to make people know about their product so they pay us with tokens/ coins if use another it will create dump in other side. We can blame developer about their decisions because they already have analysis and plan to execute. No big deal to get payment with tokens/ coins but if not listing on exchanges that's the problems.

There is no easy solution to dumping unless the project devs can make a fantastic product out of their project
That keeps driving prices at a massive rate and not bring it down

Bounty hunters do not dump a token, even project devs knows that 1% distributed to over 4000 hunters can’t harm the market

This would be a great step further for the whole bounty community and ICOs. There would be a great opportunity to have a win win compromise. On the one hand, there would be no price dump and on the other hand hunters would be happy with their earnings.

Dump is something that cannot be avoided especially from bounty hunters. They only want to get money by participating in bounties and when there is a chance, they will definitely do it, at least most of them will dump their tokens. Dumps should not be a big problem if the team behind the project is quite honest and has good faith in their project which can be shown by hard work to keep their project alive and get great attention from the public.

So the solution is from the developer itself. It is they who determine the future of their project. Even though the dump happened but if the project goes according to plan and gets appreciation from the public, the price of the token will gradually rise again.

I don't even think that the tokens for bounty havr significant quantity to start a major dump. Investors buying huge amounts during startup and selling once they hit exchanges are even bigger causes of dumps. Devs should work hard to prove to these investors that they're work is worth having confidence in for the long run.

Payment through usd or bitcoin could be a neat solution to avoid the dumping of the price of the project many tokens fail because most of its value gets dump by a huge sell off of their bounty hunters. So why not pay them in alternative currencies if they really want the project to succeed. That's the risk of businesses who put lots of money if you want to succeed.

Well said! In my point of view blaming bounty hunters for this or that has just become a perfect excuse for devs in any situation. Whatever happens devs can blame bounty hunters and community will support because it seems like everyone hates bounty hunters and is happy when they don't receive their tokens for hard work or if they are being scammed. It's very disappointing I have to say.

I believe that the dumps could not happen just because bounty hunters did it. I have seen how small oftentimes is the value of the token or coin that goes to the hunters. But I think I knew the answer why people dump their coins. The possible reason could be that the investors are afraid to lose as much if the ICO have been observed to be slow in progress. This is not true to all but I have seen and felt how some investors felt so disappointed about promises and the lack of transparency in their sales. I have observed more of these situations on telegram conversations. As a result while the price is still high those investors then dumps the coin after listing on exchanges despite not gaining so much just to prevent possible loses.

The following could be helpful in minimising dumping:
1. Bounty managers should not delay or frustrate bounty hunters in distributing tokens so that they won't lose interest in such project
2. A little reward could be put in place for those that will hold their tokens for some time like what Miracletele and some other projects are doing
3. Tokens can be locked for a while until conditions are favourable. In this case both hunters and investors should be well oriented on such step so that they won't think they are been taken for granted.
4. Quality rather than quantity.  Amount of tokens allocated for bounty should be on quality merit and not on quantity. When the volume in circulation is minimal, it will have an appreciable value even if some people decide to dump.

bounty hunter always be the main person that blamed when token price dumped.they forget about market sentiment, private sale contributor that have big contribution to token price.if they didnt want token price dumped , they should pay bounty hunter in usdt  eth or maybe btc.but most of developers team prefer save their money.

This is not the way out, because then the amount will be less, and payments will most likely not occur in the most popular coins!

I have a good agree with you. Because the main reason for bounty hunters to do that, because they have no value of the token that they receive or even less. Causing them to sold it all.

The reason of dumping coin isn't just caused fully by bounty participant. I'm suspecting that someone who purchase coins from ICO can also do the same, cause usually anyone who are purchase the coins early will get so much bonuses coins. that way they could easily dump the coins by selling all their coins including the bonus they get from purchase to get their money back plus some profit generated from the bonus coins.

if the project developed is strong enough, investors will certainly increase by themselves and certainly can affect the market price of the token owned by the project. the best solution that can be done by the project developer is to provide payments to bounty hunters in the form of other types of coins such as Btc, ethereum or Usdt to avoid excessive disposal after the promotion program ends.

If the bounty managers are rewarding the bounty hunters with real value coins, it would certainly prevent the possible dump thats gonna happen. Because they would not panic sell the tokens that they got.

ICOs not willingly paying out hunters in BTC or ETH, they rather doing it in their own coins. Bounty allocations are usually 1-2% and it can only affect the price of the token only short term.

I do not think Amy developer, who truly understands how the market operates, would blame bounty hunters for dumping their tokens. Rather, they themselves, should device means to prevent their tokens from dumping.
Also, I believe that if a project is good, it will be hard for it to dump unnecessarily. If it due is, it can easily rise again.

There are very few campaigns that pay in ETH, BTC, perhaps it’s not profitable for them, they can pay tokens to the bounty hunters in parts and not immediately, but in a certain period, for example, split into several weeks, then dumping will not happen if there is a good amount on the exchange.

I agree with you if the project has to pay with ETH, USDT or BTC it is a good middle ground for both parties but the problem is not all projects have money to pay bounty hunters with this.

I agree . for example the hunter bounty is paid ETH or USD. this will prevent the price of the token from falling.
and the bounty hunter will work well and professionally.

Th e fact is that they do not blame bounty hunters just for dumping their tokens but as a means to let them sell more of their tokens and blame it on the bounty hunters. That is why they can not change by paying bounty hunters with their eth. If they do so, they can not sell and blame anyone for doing so. They only way to do it is to blame it on bounty hunters who do not even have more than 1% of the total volume traded in every 24 hours.

Thanks you for this ooo... Why entertain such fear when the devs know they can also pay hunters in Eth or USDT. Bounty hunters dumping tokens should not at all be a problem to them.

How many developers and projects owners are ready for this?  I think their are not ready to spend a dime out of their pockets for bounties hunters who think and work day and night in promoting those projects.  I have been thinking after many projects  I promoted and was paid in their tokens doesn't not worth anything.

There are still dozens of ICO projects that are heavily dumped when listed exchange. That's because from the time ICO to the time of token was listed on exchange, the price of Bitcoin and ETH was greatly reduced, the dumped token was not entirely dependent on bounty hunter.

bounty hunters and rain hunters are basically the same thing. Dumps are inevitable.

Most of the Devs don't have enough money to invest in the promotion of their products and that is one of the reasons why so many of them pay the hunters in their tokens and at the end they will start complaining that hunters are dumping their  tokens. I think they are just out there to make money from investors without spending money for advert because many of them are fully aware that their tokens is just a shit.

I agree. Bounty hunters are used as cheap labor. Why do we need tokens which are not worth it? I prefer to receive payments in stable currencies.

it is terrible when this can happen like that because we are very difficult and difficult to know everything that will happen in the future that will make us profit or loss

Dumping is a sure thing in Crypto and people have every right to. E an if developers decides  to pay bounty hunters in USD, Eth or Bitcoin. The investors must also dump so it's unavoidable

That would be even better for both parties if people were paid in BTC or ETH for promoting altcoins. Bounty hunters wouldn't be afraid of getting scammed with worthless shitcoin and devs would expect less tokens to be dumped early. They won't do it though because they prefer people to work for credit and be paid with their tokens. Tokens that devs have in abundance.

Paying bounty hunters in cash will not be a bad  idea but I personally won't support it cos I think we will make more profit by trading the tokens except if the cash pay will be a good o e but if not I prefer to stick with token

You're right. But such conclusions did not appear by themselves. There were reasons for that. Indeed, there were many bounty participants who sold their tokens at once and thereby lowered the price. This is also the fault of the project itself, because the team should provide for this case, if it is so important for them to keep the price of their token high.

dumping will happen if the token was listed on exchange after the ICO but give it some time then the price will recover if the project has a strong foundation, also some investors are looking for those potential project who has bounty because they plan to buy the token on cheaper price from the bounty hunters after listing.

The real solution to dumping is pumping, I couldn;t imagine something better than it. From my point of view pump is something inevitable and it is opposite to dumping. I believe each holder should stay away of dumping

Paying in usd, btc or eth is not really a bad idea. But I think the "Legit" project probably might do that thing. If the Team is strongly entrusted with their project, they will not be afraid to release a lots of money to pay the bounty hunters. And they will not be afraid of the token dump, because they know and they are confident that they will be successful in their project.

It is not only bounty hunters that dump after a token sale, some investors are also guilty of dumping and most of the time it is often caused by too high bonuses during the token sale.
 So the solution in my perspective is to make better project and better talking economics because if a project is very good and the token economics is top notch people will have no reason to dump and even if bounty hunters wants to dump there will be more than willing investors who are ready to buy and hold.

The solution is very simple, yet there are only few devs who wants really pay for hunters in liquid coins like BTC or ETH.
Another solution is simple too, they just need to use a small part of the raised fund to buying their token in the market if the price lower than ICO price.
With this, their token won't falling too much and the value can make investors confident about the project.

It doesn't, they will sell those ETH after getting paid and eventually the price is slowly going down, do you even care about it?

This one either,  there will be a bounty hunter that acts like idiot and just spamming this entire forum.

for one good bounty hunter there is 10 bad ones behind him ready to dump

This is what often happens. Very many people blame bounty hunters. Because there is always a dump when the distribution occurs. Actually the project cannot blame anyone. Because this is pure trade. If a dump occurs, the project is not strong enough to withstand the coming storm. And a good suggestion is that bounty hunter payments are using btc, ethereum or usd. It is a very good choice to avoid a dump.

A very good idea and also a good way for preventing dump token price. I think this would be in favor to all, in favor with the bounty hunters because the reward would be already in exchange, also in favor on the ico.

And if the teams don't want to get the dump, they don't have to create a project and better make another thing. That always happens in the market, and like or not, they need to solve this problem, and if they can survive, then they can make sure the investor that their project is a good project because they can survive in the dumping of the token. I think the investor will give a positive opinion about the project, especially to the teams because they can work hard to defend their tokens to get a better position of the price.

I think the best way to prevent future dumping of any project is to pay all bounty hunters, airdrop hunters in eth, btc or other leading coin as it's crypto rule to always do airdrop, bounty for some that may not be able to buy the ICO or perhaps don't do airdrop and bounty but rather ICO straight forward.

you're right, many people blame bounty hunters on this problem, besides that this is a common thing. however, there is still a solution to this, because I think the bounty hunter prefers to be paid using bitcoin, or ETH. it might be better for a project to keep the price higher.

Payments for bounty hunters using Ethereum or USD are of course a very good step. And I prefer to pay with Ethereum because prices still have a great opportunity to grow. And that will also improve the quality of Ethereum.

The number 1 in altcoin market, yes, I would also love to get paid with ETH.
With tokens, there is no good adoption yet so once bounty hunters will dump, the game is over.
Those who are very active in dumping their tokens once they receive, gets the best value, and we don't want that to happen.
It's not good for the market and investors will be deeply affected with the price action.

Paying bounty hunters other than their tokens, for example usd, eth or btc may be a good solution. But because of the main purpose of the ICO which is accompanied by bounty campaigns involving bounty hunters is to raise funds in the form of usd dollars, eth or btc to develop the projects offered, I don;t think the devs will spend cash as rewards to bounty hunters.

We can't avoid the dump and control the price since it is the market supply and demand. The dumping always happens and not only to certain project, even the prospective and good project will experience this. So, as long as the project has a solid background and future prospect, it will survive.

To avoid a decline after the token is registered in the exchange market. Not entirely to give tokens to Bounty participants, but tokens are given several months. So the price of the token remains stable and there is no dump because everyone cannot throw large quantities of tokens.

Most projects have to resort to various tricks to save the price of their token. And in this case, I believe that they are right and bounty hunters have a negative impact on the price of the token. We are well aware that now few ICO attract enough funds and in these conditions the development team has to look for a way out of the situation. So bounty hunters must be understanding about this.

I can name so many projects that didn't pay bounty hunters , but instead freeze distribution , but if you look at price from ICO price then you will see its lost value like 98% from ICO price . Im bounty hunter myself , but usually i don't sell tokens that i get from bounty . In my opinion projects delay bounty distribution / airdrop distribution and other community rewards , will get no support from hunters ...

No matter what is done sometimes to avert coins from dumping, hey will still dump at the initial stage of first listing. The reason is that, traders most times prefer to buy at below ICO price, because they are also being careful of losing out and they are looking for substantial profit. Even at that, we still have some exceptional coins. Their dev. know what to do to ensure it does not dump, but this is a rare skill and it is professional.

I think it's just convenient for them to blame bounty hunters, although some small Fund is much faster to sell off tokens than we are.

they delay distributing reward for their support that give chance for investors selling in high, as you know many investors in any project complain bounty hunter as main reason behind the price dumping.and as bounty hunter we have to accept this risk.

Most of the people are blaming that the bounty hunters are dumping the prices in the market but the real solution to dumping is to hold their token first and not selling right away.

This is of course a good offer, but how many times have I seen when the investors themselves or the developers of the company themselves sold their own tokens at a low price and this has already been proven many times by many people, of course, most often this is the fault of bounty hunters, but not always.

I agree, it is foolish to blame bounty hunters, because they have such volumes of tokens and, as a rule, they do not pursue such goals!

holding their tokens first and not directly selling them, maybe it's a tactic to make a profit later if your token has value so you can sell at a reasonable price so you can profit.
if you sell immediately and don't think the token has value or not, you get nothing, so wait for the value to improve.

I think they cannot blame bounty hunters for the dump price of ico. It is only small amount of coins that are allocated to the bounty hunters, they can affect the price but only in a small percentage.

It seems to be a good idea but which projects will accept this? Will they pay rewards for bounty hunters with USD, Ethereum, .. instead of tokens? You should know that now there are more than 80% ICO are scams and these scammers will not accept this

Non of them will do that, they're mostly concerned about how to deal with the investors funds raised during the ico to share it among themselves. Now tell me the reason why they will distribute the rewards in usd or eth when they are even not sure about the project being successful or not, they are also scared of dropping in price.

There is no impact of BH on dumping. They cannot affect so strongly, that coins will dump.

Developer already counting all the possibility before starting their project, and if they use bounty hunter as marketing to promote their project, I guest they must lock the token temporary. exactly to avoid a mass dump. as a feedback if we hold our token we will got a dividend. so this is one of smart way to avoid a dump. it already implemented with the project called EOSex (Hybrid EOS exchange).

Most of the people think bounty hunter is a main resin for dumping. I think it is not a appropriate solution to dumping. When bounty hunter get token on that time they want to sell some token and some hunter wait for more value. I’m also hold my token when I get token, after all hunter is not resin for dumping. Now a days people afraid about cryptocurrency market so newbie not interested to invest in this recent market.

The project requires a propagator, and the bounty hunter's job is to get paid for propaganda, and the project party can't stop the bounty hunter's selling behavior.

That's indeed and the only way to prevent the dump through provide a big exchange site which can give a lot of volume to the tokens. That's the only possible thing and that depends on the decision of the developer itself dude. They were holding the key on this case.

Bounty hunter get a very small percentage of total supply of token. Not every hunter want to sell immediately. So i dont think bounty hunter are responsible for all this. I think every exchange out a certain limit on the number of token sell by individual in single day. Second bounty hunter can be said in eth or usd     

You are correct mate. Some investors blame bounty hunters for dumping tokens paid from bounty programs which is what really the purpose as not all of bounty hunters are wealthy enough to hodl. For their conveniece I think ICO's will stop paying tokens instead pay them in other coins or fiat.  As a bounty hunter I tried to hodl bounty tokens but sometimes I need cash for my daily needs. I do hope they will understand the situation because not all here are investors.

For those bounty projects have been collected on their token sale they don't want also to pay real money because on the money they raised they want it to use for their project also.

It's kind of a strange problem. If a coin fails to hit hard cap at ICO, then when it first hits the exchanges, you'd expect there to be very little volume - because those who wanted to buy would have bought at ICO. So really you have no buyers. Equally you have no sellers from the people who bought at ICO, because they are investing a project they believe in, they're not likely to sell before it even has a chance to get started. So the only sellers are bounty hunters, and people who bought in at ICO just because they got a decent % early bird bonus and want to cash in.
So in this situation you have a thin market with no buyers... which is why prices drop. In a thin market a price of $1 per coin doesn't mean that the whole supply could be sold for $1 each, it just means that's the best any buyer is offering for some coins.

When I stop waffling, what I'm basically saying is that prices in a thin market aren't really indicative of the true value of  the project.  there's no need to panic sell because you see price dropping when it's only a few orders.

What OP is telling is true, the actual dumpers are the ICO investors who are getting tokens first and they get token in discount, when they invest in start so their buying price goes down and they are even getting profit on cost to cost of token price. Actually bounty hunters are getting token after very long time of listing in exchange and before they can dump the price is down. This ICO developers are falsely giving information of bounty hunters are dumping.

It is true that if they dont want bounty hunters to dump then better pay them in other options of payment so that the token price wont get affected.

They do not when this is not done. Let's be honest. Because it is a free labor.  If someone had created a platform that fights with everyone, both with fraudsters and company policies in relation to hunters, there would be no price. Let's say the project should initially spend $ 10,000-100,000 on advertising its product. And then the reward would be distributed among the hunters. Although why these scammers is?)

The real solution to avoid a token getting dumped is by closing the token trading from all exchange. Make people unable to sell it on exchanges.

I think, there is no exactly solution to this. People have rights to sell their tokens as they have rights to buy tokens.

well actually it not needed if they believe they token will not dump and will be survive from dumping.
i see some project pay the bounty hunter with BTC, but I'm a little confused because if they pay in BTC the reward is less then pay in token.
but many people are interesting in BTC payment even the reward is a little.

This was addressed multiple times but nothing happens. I participated to a bounty before where they paid us hunters with ethereum and this project really looks promising. They got listed to one of the biggest and trusted exchange but unfortunately, the price still gets dumped. This suggestion is not a solution because price dumping is a piece of cake for whales or market manipulators, specially the P&D groups.

You have a point dumping will happen everytime project distribute token to bounty hunters. That the value of the token to be exchange to ethereum or bitcoin. Dumping is that the only reason why the project become worst at the end its maybe the project itself is weak and not strong enough to stand alone in the market.

Another solution for dumping is to make your tokens too good to hold, for example like some betting platforms that give the holders of their tokens revenue from their platform, nobody would wanna dump because of the revenue they get.

Only a universal deep understanding of the fact that the less we sell our coins on the current bear market can save from a dump, the higher the likelihood of the next bull run or local growth of coins.

Many projects have followed this strategy and it has helped the price of the token to be kept in a sustainable way, not suddenly dumped. And EOS is one of those successful projects, I am very interested in this project and it really succeeded as I expected.

It always pains me when I see people talking as if it's bounty hunters that dumps the price of tokens, let's not forget that the market is brutal right now and even tokens thatdidnt hold bounty programmes are suffering as well.

I think there is no solution of dumping tokens or maybe coin on the crypto feild. Because crypto market is really big and it involves a lot of investors and trader that has not the same sight about crypto, so even if we wanted to decrease the dump by holding our asset there are still some people that dump thier asset for thier own good. and we cannot blame them because we have different situation and strategy.

Fully agreed to your statement, if dev are worried about dumping then why don't they pay in ETH, BTC or USD, what is the issue if they have collected a huge amount of funds. Dumping by bounty hunters does not lead to permanent price decrease, all dev should understand this. If dumping is only done my bounty hunters then why does price goes to south in many cases where bounties are not distributed yet, its all illusion. Every ICO should have a proper plan to stabilize their token price but it can only be done by hardworking and dedicated team not by low grade ICOs.

Bounty hunters aren't the only ones who dump once a startup lists their token on a secondary market, it's also private and pre-sale investors who acquired them at a sizable discount but one of the most effective ways to ensure this doesn't occur is to have a release a percentage periodically over a few weeks or months rather than all at once

Maybe it's not true if you have to blame the bounty hunter for the price of the fallen ICO token. We can see that the allocation of large tokens is owned by investors. Maybe to avoid falling prices The team and developers can provide policies. Like sales, tokens can only be 50% and the rest can be sold within a few months.

That's right they raise eth and Btc during their ICOs, they can as well pay their token equivalent via eth or Btc but they won't as they're greedy and want to keep the liquid currencies to themselves and pay with their tokens.

It is part of this market, investors are always the ones who hold a larger percentage of tokens than many bounty hunters and it seems that investors are often dump,they should have policies for tokens to avoid those this situation

Become Bounty hunter not really profitable right now, the reward decreased dramatictly because the market long bearish so the demand of ICO also effected. Almost all project only want to pay bounty reward in token, but to avoid dumping they should be give choice to distribute reward in ETH or USDT. And that project should be have program burn token model to decrease the supply and buy back program when the price below ICO price.

Bounty should be paid of what tokens they have. I think it is not fair if they will be paid of my USD, especially if their token is worthy than the payment of USD. Bounty Hunter's should not be blame of, because they are the reason why a bounty is getting popular or making their bounty strong.

if in my opinion the real dumping solution is to make a large purchase, this could be one of the things that might make pump prices and this become a real thing done by investors.

Not only did the rewards diminish, the projects itself are no longer comfortable paying the hunters those that pay their tokens ain't worth much on exchange. The market has been crippled for a while now.

Yes, payout rewards by Ethereum or USD that will easily stop the coin dumping. But they have to pay them by funds collected from the investors. In that case, They have to spare it from the collected funds. It's not a good decision on their side. It's good only for us. I think that's why they pay it by the tokens.

it will not be the right reason for me because bounty Hunters are doing their work and get paid for their work in tokens and cryptocurrency so it is the right thing and paying them with USD or anything will not be as worth.

No project would pay a big amount of BTC or USD to bounty hunters when they don't get a guarantee on the success of their ICO.

Most of them will pay tokens and that is the tradition here in crypto, some enjoy their reward when they have faith and will hold the tokens they received but we cannot blame those who will sell their tokens even at a very low value, it won't matter to them if they will get 10% of the original
value as long as they can cash it out and enjoy their reward.

I think giving rewards with USD or ETH will make some problem for developer team. In case their funding hasn't completed successfully, team would have to pay for bounty hunters. And if project is strong bounty hunters will do their best and keep reward coins without selling them cheap.

They can start private sale after adding bounty reward. So, bounty reward should also be included in the sales price.  Also, there are dozens of bounty that can do that. Maybe those who can not, should learn from them.

this is good idea, and also bounty hunter can choose payment sistem use token or ETH/BTC/or USD, this will effective to stop dump of course, but sometime not bounty hunter who dump price on market, investor with big bonus from persale can do that.

actually, they have calculated all of it from the start and we can see clearly their coin distribution for teams, investors and bounty hunters. I see bounty hunters actually only get very little of the total coins they have and should if the bounty hunters sell their coins carelessly it will not affect the price of their coins. so let's think logically and find the best solution so that the price of ICO tokens is not fall down.

there is no solution for dumpers, dev will not use stable coin like usdt or usds etc to pay us.
its hard to say, a job like a bounty hunter is no longer worth it now, i guess i started wanting to leave it.

I don't think Devs much won't care about the price fall because they are one of the reason since they also will dump their coins, investors are worrying about if they decided to hold after the sale time.

A lot of projects are putting soft cap and hardcap but they must think to defend the price of token too, some icos are paying bounty hunters through use major coin can defend the price of token. Bounty reward already included on the sale price.

I also believe that a partial blocking for a certain period of tokens can save the price of the token from dumping. I also think that paying in BTC or ETH will help this, but the main question is will the developers agree?

This is just the lasting solution to dumping. If the fear of hunters is that great, I suggest the developers consider using the stable coins for payment. That way, no one will dump theirs.

This would defeat the purpose of utilizing bounty campaign for community building. Also, it is counter-productive since the payment for advertisement could've gone to the development of the project.

Still, it is an undeniable truth that bounty participants have the right to use their rewards to whatever they may see fit. Also only a small part of the total supply is allotted to bounty so if there's anyone they should be blaming, it should be the investors who had huge bonuses during ICO phase.

For those people promotes not good ico is not suitable for those people cant take the risk of it so its better to list our tokens in top10 exchange for higher volume but it depends if they can list it.

Its not the bounty hunters that first would dump, as a matter of fact they pay the bounty hunters too late. It would take about more than a month after the token is listed to an exchange that they pay the bounty hunters the token but then when they receive it prices are already less than a cent. Team has their way of scamming the people who joined their community, they buy back their tokens with the cheapest price possible that they can buy more than 2million in $50. and if they pump them soon, price can go up to 1$ each.  ;D

They are playing with us and they use to blame the bounty hunters for the price dump.
I'm pretty sure they already know the possible effect of bounty dump at the beginning, so they should make an strategy to protect the investor's interest.
If they will blame the bounty hunters, that means they are not capable of running the project to be successful.

Recover developers if they promote the tokens that they always strive for gifts that are given or that are directed by payers who always avoid in the time of USD, USDC or ETHEREUM

I think what's best is every developers should focus on launching on great projects with working products ,if dumps happens it won't have huge negative effects on the coin or token ,sooner or later it will grow back after the huge dumping ends ,it will not really pay for developers to pay bounty hunters in other crypto coins but will be easier to pay in there own coin or token

Whether the bounty hunter will sell the token, on the one hand, the project party decides if the investor has great hope for the ICO project and thinks it will succeed. I think bounty hunters will not sell tokens right away.

Dumping is not caused by bounty hunters guys, but because ICO market is in big crysis that's the truth, there are too few investors and many people that want to sell their tokens that's the reason for dumping...

Bravo, that's the most appropriate opinion I've ever seen. Developers constantly accuse bounty hunters of dumping their tokens, but they do not want to change anything. I've seen bounty hunters ask them to pay in USDT or ETH many times, but get refused. Why do they then complain that bounty hunters sell tokens after listing on the stock exchange.

this is good solution
paying in usd or eth / btc is good solution for dev or project creator to aviod the dumper
or just lock the token for more than 1 or 2 month for bounty hunter

Why dump actually occurs due to lack of buyers in the market. buy very little response from on who wants to sell. It makes the dump occurred. We know it's all a very reasonable case for a new token, because to build their market certainly takes time.

Lol
Paying bounty hunters with usd or etherum or bitcoin will be very difficult for project devs
Because they are conducting a crowdfunding due to lack of funds

So pay hunters at the right time and you will witness that only bounty hunters want your project to really moon

I like your innovative idea buddy. If this is implemented, the accusation that bounty hunters are to blame for dumping their project will be eradicated. In fact bounty hunters do hard to promote their projects and they get less credit. In some cases, what they get in exchange is cheat. They are cheated by some fake projects by not giving them their reward. So the idea is worth thinking.

Instead of the blame game and filmsly excuses for payment situation
Why not tell project developers to create a valueable project that will always generate demand for their token

Because the more the demand, the higher the price.
We want worthwhile project and tokens always

I have seen situations where coin dumps even before it's been distributed to bounty hunters because the team dumps along side investors. Bounty managers and developers should stop complaining cos they don't expect hunters to hold there token forever..  They promote the project cos they either want to switch to a better token after distribution or they want cash.

So if they are so concerned about their native token,  they should reward hunters with USD,  USDT,  ETH,  or BTC. I think majority already said same thing,  which means it's kinda a better way to save there token or let holders trade them to whatever they wish.

very smart statement ...
I have never agreed if the bounty hunter continues to be blamed when the price of the coin falls when it is registered in the exchange.
if indeed we continue to be blamed for selling tokens that we have then it would be better if we were paid by USD or other FIAT currencies, or if we continued to use the crypto currency pay us with bitcoin or ethereum.

Yes bounty reward should be to pay with stable coin to avoid bounty hunter dump the price. Many bounty hunter work 8 hours aday to do task of bounty and they need money immediately to buy good and service so we can not blame bounty hunter if they dumping the token. Just like me, every i earned reward i have to sell it because i need money to buy daily expense.

Maybe it's a big hel for the price of the coin to maintain the good value of it,  if the projects pay the hunters US dollars or real money or ethereum or the bitcoin. But what if the those hubters already get their reward like ethereum and bitcoin and once they sell it cause again dumping the things that we need right now is discipline and also a unity to hold.

No bounty hunters contribute of the market price because the tokens will undervalued due to bounty hunters dumping it in low price though some exchanges are the one to managed the token or coin market price depending on the agreement of the exchange and the team implementing the project.

To avoid falling prices when the ICO is listed on the Exchange. I think this is entirely the responsibility of the development team. They should anticipate that if many people sell coins, the price of coins will fall. Yes, I agree that this is not entirely wrong with the Bounty Hunter.

True, it's the team responsibility as they make the decision, if they analyze things and foreseen about a bad outcome, they should delay the listing.



That's necessary, every responsible team should know that.
It's not hard to determine because most of the time when a coin is listed, it will dump and might even go very low, lower than it's ICO price.

There is no real solution to dumping, because it is for a reason. The only way to avoid dumping is making lock ups and supporting price with market making

Greedy investors will not dump when the price is low, that would result to a lose for their investment.

Bounty hunters also cannot be blame, even before this big problem of dumping happens, bounty hunters are already dumping their tokens and the only difference now is we don't have a lot of volume, so the effect is negative.


What kind of limit?.... the only solution is to never list when the market is in a bad condition, I'm sure the team
can already anticipate on what will happen as they can learn form other project that are dump the moment it get listed, they need to make a solution
to this as it would affect the future of a project.

Sometimes if it starts bad, it may not recover and will end bad, so the first impression should be taken cared of as it's vital for the success of the project.

But when the project is not sure to succeed, how do they commit that there will be USDT or ETH to distribute bounty hunter bonuses. And that there are bounties like that, but their pools are too small to appeal to bounty hunter

That would be a nice solution! Also increase the level of trust will make hunters to hold instead sell...
Maybe the best way would be to give them the choice to receive in BTC/ETH or token... this way, people looking to cash out quickly would choose BTC/ETH and don't hurt the token economy at the beginning

Developers future goals is what's important here, if they visioning the potential of their works the possibilities of creating the support levels will helps the project being dumped, it's not the hunters nor the investors should be blamed as they deserve those rewards that they will going to acquire after supporting and helping the team behind.

Yes it is, and no it isn't. Developers can say whatever they want, and guess what? They do say whatever they want, all of the time. And does it mean that they will do what they say? Achieve what they say they will? Of course not, not even if they're compliant or whatever. What you see in the roadmap and prospectus after all is just a promise.

Yes there is a temporary solution to pay them on tokens and not USD stable coins or ETH, but we can't stop dumping, is always the choice of people what to do with coins.

This is a very good idea, and I strongly agree with you, because it is not only Dev who is harmed by paying bounty hunters to use tokens, but also investors, even better to pay using BTC, ETH or USDT (y)

There is no need to complain about the dumping when every one can do what ever they likes with their token which is the major reason there is always dump and mostly not all the bounty hunter dump too as investors do dump too .

Listing price actually has a lot to do with the price of token and if the dump will happen cos some token even rise when listed due to the capacity of the project but a project that has nothing to offer in the process of ICO and listed will be max dump for quick profit.

a good project wont blame hunters for price dump. they should expect hunters to sell when it matters to them and the price will pick up only with time. most time the dump is caused by devs themselves to crash the price so hunters wont be able to dump their tokens.

bounty hunters do campaign for a living so after they got their rewards they will sell it so dumping will happen. if ICOs team don't want this to happen they should not offer bounty campaign. they should find alternative ways to promote their ICOs. and maybe ICOs team will see that many investors dump their token too because investors own a big shares of token including the bonus they get.

usually devs do not blame huters. it is those idiots who invest their pathetic 50$ and want to be rich as soon as token will be listed on exchange.

Very good proposed solution. I think probit paid in USDT and it really helped a great deal. If other team members can adopt that pattern of paying promoters in BTC, ETH, USDT or other well established coins.

Actually devs really don't tell that bounty hunters as dumpers it might be true but the thing is the total percentage of it for the whole supply is not that so, maybe there will be impact but as long as the projects is really promising then possible that price of token will just bounce back to it's original price.

a good solution but in my opinion, if developers use ethereum or altcoin such as usdt or usdc for bounty payments, the project developer might only be willing to allocate some and that makes the bounty hunter fees paid a little especially if it is used for bounty like social media because social bounty participants the media can reach thousands of people.

I definitely support your idea and also think that this is the best way of how to protect any project from dumping. But the problem is that the devs are too greedy to share their profits.  It is much easier to share their tokens that are worth nothing, rather than to give out ETH or BTC.

Your topic is right some sector.But i think some different cause.when a gamluar wants to gambling any specific coins.than try to dump.

I think if the developers supported the coin by means, while the bountists sold it, then everything would be fine

I strongly agree with your idea, if the paid hunter is paid using ETH or USDC then there will be no more dump when first listing on the market

Are the devs blaming the bounty hunters in the plummeting of the price of their token? I think it is normal already for an ICO to plummet its price because aside from the bounty hunters, investors and the developer themselves are selling it too to have some profit.

If I'm the developer, I will not pay bounty hunters in any of the coins you said. Take note that launching an ICO doesn't become a successful one 100% so I will not pay them with that coins because I will be in a loss. That is how the developers think so they are paying them thru their own coins.

To be honest, I'm not going to have any problems if they just pay me in USD. Because I 'm not going to be anxious anymore if my coins are going down especially in a red market. And so far I haven't encountered this where devs are being problematic about this dumping and they are really good projects.

If they only pay with tradeable coins things will look good for bounty hunters and the projects, only investors will get a hold of the coin and they are free to do whatever they want to do with although I see some campaign that pays through tradeable coins, they are very rare, if there are they become the most popular campaign.

You are in the spirit i will say but how many of them will want to pay using Bitcoin, Ethereum or USD and even if they do, most of them will start paying hunters peanut

hello mate! if devs would use usd to pay for bounty hunters then they should pay them equivalent to the cut they get in their own coins or pay them bitcoin and ethereum. that way devs could prevent dumping after listing in markets. if developers are really sincere to their proj it will bounce back. it's their reward, and they can do whatever they want to it. cheers!

Pay them in real money would mean less rewards. Giving away tokens doesn't mean any problem for a team - they have enough tokens. But they need money for development and they will not be happy to share that money with bounty participants.

How to break a faulty circle? Teams need money, money is used for development, development brings more money, traders sell after the positive new on social media.  There is no way to stop this circle in the free market, fortunately.

The massive dumping of coins is not entirely the fault of bounty campaign hunters. If indeed the coin you offer is a potential coin, the coin will quickly recover back to the price according to the ICO benchmark. Useful coins can certainly survive in the market for a long time at a stable price. Therefore, it shouldn't be if the development team blamed the bounty campaign hunter. As a wise team, we should criticize from various perspectives. I strongly agree that if the team really wants to avoid disposal, it can pay bounty campaign hunters with other more potential coins like eth.

exactly. But the number of tokens rewarded by the tiewnf hunter is only 3% of the total number of tokens issued so the dumping does not have a big impact on dumping.

the real solution is just a serious project to continue to grow, there is no mistake about the bounty hunter about dumping, because if the project is serious and the tokens received by bounty hunters are not many and the project should be able to maintain good value so that projects can continue to grow and become large in the future

Actually there is nothing wrong with the circle. the wrong is sometimes from their own team.
You know ICO that failed how, after the ICO was finished they didn't focus on development. those in their minds are only money and money, and argue that they blame the prize participants. whereas the allocation of prize participants is only 2-5%.

I think before bounty doing, the developer must prepare some fund for buyback program, so price not dumping hard.

Oh people always blame bounty hunters for dumping . I just finished 2 bounties and the tokens are still not paid , anyway tokens for bounty hunters will be locked . The price of the projects already are down 70% and 90% from IEO price lol . Some projects even cut the bounty pool at the end of the bounty .

I think paying promoters in other coins is not really or can't be called 'PROMOTING' I don't see anything wrong in getting paid in the same token you helped promoted

Usually, promoters are just 1% of the token allocation, that's why promoters cant do a big dump. And not every promoter is selling the coins. Some of them are also traders who know when to sell the coin to get a maximum of profit.

What people don't understand is that devs don't care about the token value. If they collect a couple of million dollars, they are fine. There is no need for the token to increase in value as they already secured their massive salaries.

that's for a bad project. but if you follow a good developing project. You must understand the work of developers in building their platforms and also building their markets. actually both are related, but sometimes there are projects that only focus on their platform products and don't think about the market. that makes a lot of new coins dump.

No one will pay bounty to hunters in YUSD is too expensive, even the developers can not know exactly the value of their coins in the first days after listing.

Some of the projects that dumped the tokens price after listing are blaming the bounty hunters but that is not the main reason but the reason is the bad exchangers they list those tokens,so i say this because of based in my studies and experience so if you own a project must list it in popular exchange to get more investors and investments.

Well, hunters in pursuit of rewards also affect the price. But if the project is a decent price stabilizes during the day. Any traders also intend to put a lower price to make a profit.

I agree with you. People always try to cover their wrong management by blaming someone. Bounty hunter wouldn't sell their token if there have great confident about project and management of team. every time the reason i see on dump project there is poor management team.

It has been suggested here severally, due to greediness of team, it is difficult for them to use it to pay bounty hunters, the value they place on hunters is nothing to right home about, bounty hunters have the right to sell anytime, team work  and reputation will justify if they should hold or not.

I am sure that even if bounty hunters are not paid in tokens, but in already trading and established coins, the tokens will still dump, because traders and investors will look for means through which they can make profits, either daily or at different points.
There are some of them that deliberately cause the dump of coins, in order to get favoured  by the upcoming surge.

Pying bounty hunters in ETHEREUM OR BITCOIN will definitely protect the token price of the ICO.
THough it is not all about the bounty hunters, there are so many investors who dumped their tokens after listing and buy more at low.
That is the true about this token listing now.

the first reason about token dumping is those investors who bought in ico's, they have the biggest opportunity to dump their tokens so that they can get back their money very fast and they can invest it again to another project

Bounty hunters are not the problem of most coins that get dumped, They developers are mostly to be blamed for not bringing plans on how to prevent the coins from dumpers after exchange listing, the best solution is to lock the team, bounty and private investors tokens for some time to provide liquidity for the coin, then buy back the coin on occasional basis to increase its value.

Not just this, bounty hunters work to get paid because they need  money, if bounty hunters will wait till their target value is reached before they sell theirs, that will be close to impossible. First there is no guarantee it will reach and second it can even go below the ICO price which will be equivalent to unprofitable for them.

There is no real solution to dumping at all! Yeah, if you have money for market making, it is different thing. But without support level and making purchases, dumping is inevitable

One thing I noticed recently is that this same devs thta blame hunters for dumping has come out with a new strategy to dump their own token. They create and start up a bounty and in the process dump their token just same time dumpers rewards are distributed thereby blaming the dump on hunters.

I would say that there should be a value behind each project and only in this case dumping isn't something what can hurt you. Also you should think about liquidity

I am absolutely agree, if the project is valuable enough I think the probability of dumping will be lower than now. we cannot make any boundaries to tell bounty hunters to keep all their coins because it is their right.

The real solution to dumping is to create real demand for a coin or a token. If there is no demand there is no way to prevent dumping.