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Dear Users,

apart from trading small altcoins with some benefit with Masternodes (yeah you would call them shitcoins) I would like to invest some money in a Top 20 coin now cause of cheap prices.

My idea would be DASH cause it can make fast real live payments like seen in Venezuela and is in a way the mother of many small coins.

Alternative i thought about IOTA but I read here its a bit risky and technical not 100% finished.

Have you some points that you give towards are against them both and maybe also other alternatives (Yes I invest a few funds also in BTC...)

Thank you.

I'm not so confident that DASH and other privacy coin will rise again soon.. take a look at Monero Ban from USA for example... privacy coin are not well viewed from countries and institutions...

I agree more on investing in coins that have entered the top 20 in cryptocurrency because even though there is a risk of loss but they also have the potential for us to be able to get profits, so I agree that the investment in top 20 cryptocurrency coins.

Mmmmh ok, I think they can stop the feature in the core when its necessary. Privacy is nearly the only existment role for Monero....

While there are more and more projects make announces about financial problems, the main thin we should do is to avoid investments in bankrupt projects. DASH, Monero or any other top-30 project - whatever. If project survives the bear market and goes forward it will definitely bring a huge reward during the next bull run.

I am not interested in DASH until now, maybe I would prefer EOS and TRON as an alternative to investment in current market conditions. I see EOS has more potential to gain long-term profits, or at least wait for next year.

I havenend read details about them but as I understand they are competitors to ETH. And there will be token/contracts on the chain manipulating the price

It has been a while I heard about DASH. I almost forgot there is a coin that bear that name.
Ever since I got to know about it, it gave some profits, but I am not too sure of the income from dash.
I would rather invest in other coins that I know of than invest in dash.

Dash - from the word "Digital" and "cash" - is an amazing processing pace compared to other well-known and famous Bitcoin and other rival cryptos. Its best feature is its transaction speed, which is what designer Evan Duffield had focused on, with user anonymity also a key feature.

Dash should be a good investment, it's been here in cryptoworld for a while now and masternode of it should be reliable source for the passive income, these days many MNs turn out to be a scam.

I think Dash is not bad idea for investment, but IOTA looks like uselessly project with already stopped development.

IMO, Dash is reputable and steady project. Although the Masternode return is not big, but it is a safe option many other masternode coin. I will go for Dash than IOTA for lower risk investment.

Yeah but I dont have 70 thousend dollar for a DASH Masternode, and i dont know any shared service...

So my main question would be about rising price

There are a lot of cheap coins right now. Take a look at IOST, XVG, IOTA.

Dash isn't much better than iota but if i had to choose, i would also prefer dash to iota. However, since you want to invest in something from the top20 list which isn't too big already, i would advise you to invest in monero.

It is not as big as ltc or xlm or eth but it is still a solid coin.

Being small in this situation might work in your favour because those small coins bring outrageous returns in a bull run.

I think DASH and other coins will be stable and will not experience bankruptcy, investment there will be more stable than others.

Dash is one of the projects I closely follow. Aside from the good features that others already mentioned in previous comments, I like the fact that they hay been very pro active in their partnerships in different countries to further increase mass adoption.

Would you believe you can make instant payments with Bitcoin thru lightning. Not fast but instant. Just google to see one tutorial.  And guess why DASH have same? It is a copy/paste BTC clone that brings nothing new to crypto table. I would you suggest to "invest" in coins that are bringing something new. Something that Bitcoin will never have.

Have you seen the return on investment investing into Dash Masternodes, just 8% in a year, for me I think the model of Masternodes do not worth it again, because as the rewards got reduced, people start dumping their coins on the market since their is no strong incentives to do that again

Oh please stop with the low quality FUD already Febo
(Febo is one of the more fanatic Monero supporters by the way).

This is what Dash brings to the crypto table :

Optional privacy on its transactions (missing in Bitcoin)
Automatic Instant transactions, locked against double spending on 90% of its transactions by default (missing in Bitcoin)
Cheap transaction fees (much lower then Bitcoin)
Chainlocks : protection against 51% attacks (missing in Bitcoin)
Decentralized budget and funding system (missing in Bitcoin)
Rewarding full nodes for providing services for the network (missing in Bitcoin)
Grassroot movements in countries that really need it like Venezuela and Colombia (no real effort is put forward by Bitcoin)

Dash achieve all its activities on-chain, unlike Bitcoin who is setting up centralized sidechains off-chain (Lightning network) with payment channels where funds needs to be always online
(which increases the risk of theft, hacking, ddos attacks and god knows what else) and there is general uncertainty how high the transaction fees will get to be. Also Lightning Network is still in Alpha phase,
and is far from getting implemented into their mainnet. Bitcoin is slowly but surely transferring into something very very centralized and very very against Satoshi's view on things
(like increasing Bitcoin's blocksize when its actually needed (2 years ago) and keeping the network onchain).

With Dash Evolution (Dash Core 1.0) there will be even more activities for Dash : blockchain usernames, decentralized API, Dash Drive, decentralized apps
For those that are curious about Dash roadmap and its progress : http://www.dashroadmap.org/dash-now/

https://i.imgur.com/TgbErdw.png

To OP : there are some third party's that share a masternode, maybe you can read up on them : https://docs.dash.org/en/stable/masternodes/hosting.html
(i know masternode.me from moocowmoo is highly recommended, as is Splawik Supershares and Hosting service)  

 

I really do understand all the fuss about Dash, in my opinion is just another Altcoin but know how to differentiate their project better than others in the anonymous category. How many people have actually use Dash for transaction if no for trading and speculations

Link : https://messari.io/onchainfx
https://i.imgur.com/fgGOwUQ.jpg

This clearly shows Dash strength with number of active addresses, number of transactions and number of payments.
It also shows other cryptocurrencies weaknesses, cryptocurrencies like Monero, Bitcoin Cash (i suspect also Bitcoin SV) and Cardano are severly underperforming in this bear market.
As is XRP with regards to number of active addresses.
  

I think very few people are using Dash right now. It seems to me that this coin will die very soon. because nobody needs it

You have very strange thoughts, Dash has (beside Bitcoin and EOS) the highest number of payments, is used more and more as digital cash and has the strongest presence in Venezuela where people actually use Dash
to buy every day things to survice (food, drinks etc) : https://ambcrypto.com/exclusive-dash-dash-is-now-a-venezuela-favorite-traders-call-it-an-innovation/


https://discoverdash.com/stats/
https://i.imgur.com/bOaOycP.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/OlTUcT6.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3CSSzlv.jpg

 


 

All that charts are total bullshit. Do you want i start draw bitcoins charts? All of them will be 100 times higher. DASH is just pimped up Bitcoin it does not and it will never do anything better. Ever. No one will ever need it! This is a fact no matter how much you will try to discredit people saying it. I really dont understand what would matter if I am black or white. If I used Monero yesterday or euro. I tell people the truth.

I think investing your money in the coins from the top 20 is the right decision! Moreover, now these coins are very cheap and the growth potential is very good. DASH and IOTA good coins

Trading is not a simple task so we should not expect the profit in top 20 altcoin. But our investment is safe because these are never going to die in future at the same we will never expect the quick profit. I always recommend to token investment so Binance or some top trending tokens is the best choice.

Charts dont lie, people lie. Specially you. First you totally disregard anything that Dash has accomplished so far, then you purposely overlook what differentiate Dash from Bitcoin and then you end up accusing Dash of being just a straight copy from Bitcoin.
You are just a big liar from a competing cryptocurrency which is clearly missing adoption, transactions and a primal use case (which by the way is not digital cash for Monero, no matter how hard you try to claim it is).

I call you a fanatic Monero supporter because that is your behaviour : attacking Dash in any Dash related topic and trying to switch people to Monero.  

The most important thing DASH can is sending in less then 2 sec with a small fee. Bitcoin tries to have with lightning network but it has to be working direct with BTC adresses in wallet, otherwise it will not work.

I like Monero earlier, but the only thing it can better then DASH is ASIC resistance.
Its too slow even with a 2 min block time.

And when you have Miningrigrental or Nicehash website its equal if a coin is ASIC resistence or not. Only solution there is POS (o maybe something complete new), but it will take time until people understand that and will get it in Top 20

When v0.13 is fully activated on the network (within a few weeks), Dash will have automatic Instantsend on default for small transactions (4 inputs or less), which will be about 90% of Dash transactions. This will be without any additional fee.
In short, once actived 90% of Dash transactions (small transactions) will be sent and received within a few seconds on the network, immediately protected against doublespending and without any additional fees (just the normal low transaction fees).
This will strengthen Dash use case as being used by anyone as digital cash and specially in Venezuela this will prove very helpfull as small transactions are taking place a lot there.

Personally i rather have the network security that Dash ASIC miners provide, combined with Dash Chainlocks that provides protection against 51% attacks (https://blog.dash.org/mitigating-51-attacks-with-llmq-based-chainlocks-7266aa648ec9),
then having to hard fork a network every few months to block new ASIC miners on the network and thereby actually increase the risk on 51% attacks on that network (specially in a bearmarket where prices are low and its easy to just rent the hashpower).
Not only do consecutive hard forks scare off investors, they also encourage bad behaviour under miners (which is why Monero after having hard forked to ban ASIC miners before, is in the exact same situation now again).

This is a chart of the miningpools that are currently mining on the Dash network (GPU and ASIC miners) : https://chainz.cryptoid.info/dash/#!extraction

https://i.imgur.com/EQxNiej.jpg

You can have ASIC miners and still have a nice spreadout of hashpower over different mining pools, you just need to encourage good behaviour.

So far whenever i bought something i needed wallet. Not just with Lightning. I am sure progress might change that in future. Remember that Bitcoin is 10 years old and Lightning much much less. Maybe in future we will pay things just with out mind with one thought. Who knows. I am sure it will develop to be perfect.

As I said before Bitcoin with Lightning works instant. No seconds needed and fee is super tiny.






Charts are clear. Bitcoin is used everyday millions people use it. DASH is not used anywhere no one use it and no one will EVER use it.  What DASH accomplished so far is one of biggest scams in cryptocurency space. Everyone can google that it was detailed wrote about.

This is what I am talking about. You mention it in every single reply you make on my post.  I also eat pasta today so I wonder why you dont call me a fanatic pasta supporter.   But I know why you are doing this. Watch this short video and see: https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/1058991043696345088

Oh and to be totally clear. No one should buy either Bitcoin or Monero if they dont have any use of it. But please do educate of them.  

Here is some more data for Febo to deny (he is in a bit of a denial phase right now) :

https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/transactions-dash-xmr.html
https://i.imgur.com/NbHnE6T.jpg

Just disregard the high spikes, those were some stress tests to test if Dash can safely handle million of transactions with current blocksize
(Dash can handle 3 million transactions per day so far without any problems with its current 2mb blocksize).

Dash transactions are consistently 3 or 4 times higher then the number of transactions of Monero (just go through the dates in the link above).
Indicating that Monero is the one not being used much and is in fact consistently way way lower then Dash.

Traded volume between Dash and Monero : again a huge difference in volume between Dash daily traded volume and that of Monero daily traded volume :

https://coinmarketcap.com/
https://i.imgur.com/4vZlGiH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ClNB8DD.jpg


Proof of Dash transactions growth in 2019 :  http://178.254.23.111/~pub/Dash/Dash_Info.html (Block/Trx Info)

https://i.imgur.com/JZDvCOX.jpg

Live feed of transactions as they occur on the Dash network (kinda cool to watch) : https://dashradar.com/graph

https://i.imgur.com/Hs6CiKV.jpg


How can you discuss this though with a Monero guy that does not regnonice charts or data ? A Monero guy that just like to post in anything related to Dash and call it a scam project ?
A Monero guy that denies that Dash has any transactions at all? Any volume at all ? Any progress at all ? Any adoption at all ?
You cant discuss this with such a guy  .. nobody can.

Because such a guy is called a troll, and trolls dont listen to reason or logic. They just want to enforce their own view / opinion on others.

Oh oh, Febo will not like this : https://dashnews.org/churchs-chicken-venezuela-offers-special-promotion-for-paying-with-dash/

https://i.imgur.com/OJcg61V.jpg


The power of Dash : its fast, its secure, its cheap with regards to transaction fees and it gets highly attractive when used in combination with a discount or promotion.

investing in bitcoin is very good and if you are also caring to buy and invest in DASH it is much better, because I believe that dash will give you a huge profit.

I also think, because I am sure that only the strongest projects will survive in 2019 and we need to be very careful about investments.

Dash is not a real privacy coin. Their privacy features are poor compared to the competition, so they rebranded from Darkcoin to Digital Cash - and instant payments are now their #1 feature, which they excel at.

Yep, the ICO hype is gone now and the next bullrun will most likely benefit cryptoprojects that shows real progress, real use cases, an active development team and a strong community.
The next bullrun will most likely be initiated from institutional investors that will want to invest longterm (years), so they want to make damn sure they invest in a good and healthy project.

It could even be first a selective altcoins bullrun, followed by a much larger Bitcoin (institutionalized) bullrun.

  

This is my first time of hearing about dash investment but i would rather invest on the coin that are a bit familiar with me like the bitcoin and the eth.

Dash funded Max Keiser "The GAP: Great American Pilgrimage” awhile back
Link : https://bitsonline.com/dash-keiser-baldwin-roadtrip/

That was in the midst of the 2017 bullrun i think, he still recommends Dash to this day. It shows the strength of Dash governance and budget system
(anyone can put a proposal to the Dash network, which masternode owners can vote over and provide funding or deny funding).

Link : https://www.dashcentral.org/budget

Even Roger Ver from Bitcoin Cash used Dash at one point and was pretty impressed with its speed : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PE-P0bax0A
We also have this market report from eToro from awhile back : https://dashnews.org/etoro-market-report-dash-is-acutely-undervalued-compared-to-other-coins/

Dash used to be named Darkcoin by the way, before getting rebranded to Dash. It was created in 2014 by Evan Duffield.

What is Dash?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0oNO3mbBE8&vl=en

Dash offers some unique features such as increase level of privacy and security and relatively lowere transaction fee.Dash is mainly known for its focus on private, secure and fast transactions, due to which large crypto enthusiasts were attracted by this coin all around the world.Dash coin is one of the crypto coin that can compete more with other altcoins that's why this coin has a brighter future.The investors has been increasing as they look this coin as a valuable and profitable. It will be one of the most valuable cryptocurrencies in the world. You can convert DASH (https://coinswitch.co/coins/dash/dash-to-bitcoin) to BTC from CoinSwitch at the best rates.

One major advantage is that Dash has got lot of promising ideas under its cap and some good team to back them up. So if they are successful with their ideas, they are definitely going to outshine other crypto.

Dash looks more potential and has a good future, the increase that occurs provides many benefits for those who use it.
We see the developments that occur and this is very interesting to continue to follow.

Although now I doubt that DASH can increase higher in this year, I still hold some DASH and I still waiting the good moment for Dash to increase. I don't follow every Dash news, and it makes me don't have any good information. I realize that since I join in the crypto, only Dash that I don't have and I only buy Dash in a few weeks ago when it gets a dump. I have a big hope that Dash can get the higher price as before because Dash will also have a good potential to increase higher.

You can check these two sites if you are interested in getting some good information about Dash :

DASH : News, Information and Discussion (this is on the Bitcointalk.org forum and only contains the most recent Dash updates that i can find + some basic information + opportunity for discussion)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5115659.0

Dash News (This one is sponsered by Dash governance and butget system and provides articles about Dash)
https://dashnews.org/

Dash is a good coin and will see some good returns once the market goes into a new bull run

Dash's development is unexpected, the team works hard to make Dash more useful and potentially.
The increase continues to occur and looks more running well, Dash deserves to be a quality investment.

well it is good you have thought of DASH investment because it is one of the profitable cryptocurrencies in the cryptospace. Again, it is one of the most popular masternode project in the cryptosphere and i think investing into DASH right now can generate huge profits when the crypto market rises.

When it comes to top 20 coins that are cheap. I don’t think dash it quite that cheap for ~$88 per coin, though I heard that DASH is a very good project with a promising future which I have been waiting for a while now studying its market and looking for a further fall in price in other to buy more.

IOTA seems it has already reach its bottom and that is why I opted in for IOTA which according to my own research and based on thorough study, I doubt if it’s risky to invest in it though there are no coins without its own risk.

Some hope of rise in price still on the line this year for DASH and aside that, most altcoins are expected to come out of there bearish market this year to Bullish market and since DASH is already in its deep as speculated by major DASH market players, the bull market is expected to push DASH further more this year by at least 100 to 200 % increase in its current value.

Hence, DASH still has lots of chances of growing higher than it is now same as other altcoins too that is in the Top 20.

Dash is a good coin the invest in and I can see it returning a nice profit in the coming years.