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Hi everyone; as I'm sure you're all aware new projects continue to flood into the crypto space at a regular pace; (my newest favorite being GRIN and Nauticus) however I am wondering if these can compete with the established projects like BTC and BNB?


https://grin-tech.org/

I feel like Grin is a much more fair playing ground than Bitcoin; with no premine and no ICO etc; and much stronger privacy (maybe better compared to monero?)

https://nauticus.exchange/

Much like Binances BNB due to trade fee reduction; but with FIAT onramping and Securities incoming.


Can newer projects make big enough waves to usurp their much older larger brethren?

Grin is not competing with BTC. It's more privacy focused. It is also a plataform where new ideas are going to be tested , and in future those ideas may be applied to bitcoin.

New projects and ideas are always good, but they are not necessarily competing with older ones. They can coexist and complement each other

IDK too much about Grin, but I should have learned more about it bcuz I heard it's doing really well. As far as Nauticus, I've used the exchange a few times, no issues so far. Does anyone know more about Grin and the purpose behind the project? I'm curious if this is the "next" big thing or not?

What would Grin best compare to? I understand it's meant to have a stable price for transactions which seemed to be Bitcoins original intentions; at least at first. Now it's more store of value-like?

Would you say BEAM is closer to bitcoins model?

and What about Nauticus?

Most people on here know my stance on Nauticus. I think there's a bright future with that company. As far as BEAM and Grin goes, I've only heard of BEAM. I think there may be something there (diamond in the rough), but idk enough about it to make an accurate prediction.

Yes, it's possible provided that the new project has something to new to offer to the community, and that new thing is something that the community can use like Ethereum, and Waves, there are a lot of good projects before them but they surpassed them in the market.

Competition is good but I don't think GRIN can threaten the position of bitcoin. If it comes close, bitcoin will simply add MW as a sidechain. There are thousands of altcoins around already. What difference does it make if there are another 2 coins...

GRIN will probably make its way to the top 20 list few years later. It is still too early for GRIN.

Of course they can also compete. I don't think that this is about me being an old or new project. I know there are some very successful new projects. They are now waiting for the market to recover. When the time comes, they will show themselves.

I believe yes, they can. Ethereum was a new project some time ago as well. I suppose that time of getting out to the market is extremely important to be succeed. Let's recall ETH release date - July 30, 2015. It was the beginning of the whole market take off. So in the second half of 2019 there could appear new game changer projects as well.

Do you think Nauticus or GRIN posess that potential?

Absolutely possible... The way to go about this by any new project is to come out with something unique, rewarding and refreshing. Like bringing something offering to solve a direct need that hasn't been fulfilled yet. Once that is done, with dedication, technical knowledge and a decent community, they could be a force to reckon with thus, giving them (New Projects) a chance to successfully compete with more established projects.

it's a arelative, the future from altcoin is depends on the coin developer itself how the management and development of their team and the enthusiastic community of the coin

Yes, that's right New Projects can compete and even subdue established ones provided they have what it takes in terms of good utility of token, established team, and a nuance whitepaper.

may be able to compete with existing projects as long as the project now has to be better and must have a lot of interested people in order to survive in the market.

They can compete if they have the real usage in this market. Many new coins are able to land on the top coins because of that and for sure they will continue to make good technologies so they can beat the top coins. The competition is very strong in cryptomarket, if you to survive you will do good.

it will be very difficult for new projects to be able to compete with old projects especially bitcoin, but that does not rule out the possibility because bitcoin also tends to go down and at that time they have the opportunity to take over the market especially if they have new concepts and innovations

It depends on what you mean cause the projects that are you talking about are not 'competitors' but every projects aim to be the king in a field. Imo it's never too late to get success.

Indeed, more developments needed in order to purse coin improvment for new rising coins so that their demand will increase and could gain better marker value in sooner time. It's by random scenarion that we will be able to see good markets to rise at higher competition, despite of established projects were already their having strong community. Overtaking top coins cannot be done in shorter span of time, it really takes long term to withstand competition.

Technology is growing every day. I think that with cryptocurrencies and all projects in this market, it will be like the development of cars. At the beginning cars were slow and dangerous, with time they are more and more modern and better - the same will be with the projects on the cryptocurrency market.

there could be competition between new projects and long-standing projects. because the new project sometimes offers advantages, and many people feel tempted by the offer. but we also need to examine the new project first, whether the project is promising or the project is a scam

In theory, this is quite possible. But so far I have not seen such projects that could seriously compete with such established coins as bitcoin. If the old coins continue to evolve, they will continue to be the first. After all, if you improve the technology and work on errors, it will always give the coin an advantage.

They might. But to do this, they need to win the trust of the community, but it will take a very long time, so even if this happens, it is not soon. It took bitcoin 10 years to become popular.

Many new projects tend to increase competition to get investors. To achieve like Bitcoin, I think it still requires a lot of time because it's not easy. Bitcoin is the first coin and it takes a struggle to reach the right end.

I have not really seen a new project that was able to compete well with the existing ones in 2018. Most of them failed as they were just launched to be sold and cashed out.

The only two I invested in for 2018 were Nauticus and Swachhcoin. Swachhcoin still hasn't released yet...go figure. Nauticus gave me some gains tho which I am happy about. I think they have a future in this industry if they play their cards right.

Sure they can. Specially when old projects keep up with their old tech and don't bother to revolutionize their system.

This comparation is very lame. I think new projects will make this market be richer and investors and users have more choices, make a strong environment for the cryptocurreny and blockchain

competing or not depends on the project, if the project team works well and their project is really good, then it is not impossible that they will be able to compete.

Grin is not competing with any other coins and bitcoin has better community support ,many new good projects are coming out and I'm sure they will get better than old ones and through new coins we will have more investors

Of course, new projects, as well as their coins and tokens, are competing and will continue to compete with old ones. However, in order for such competition to begin to emerge, it is necessary that a new coin or token show its advantage and it will be appreciated by users. It takes a lot of time. Here it is considered that in the future EOS will be a good competitor for ethereum. Yes, many agree that EOS has better functionality. However, this can only manifest itself over time, when the popularity of EOS will also increase. In the meantime, ethereum is considered the undisputed leader, which can also improve and bypass its competitors.

Everything is possible but how they can get people trust is the problem. Even market so deep new project still have chance to survive and like or not new create hope. Let's see their history chart and they can solve people problem, if good go for it.

I think it is too early to tell whether new projects could compete or not. Maybe compare try to assess again after they are two or three years into theit development.

IMHO we will 90% new top 30 of CMC in the next 2-3 years. So IMHO new projects will compete with existing on in 100%.

I am yet to check the project you have mentioned as there are several projects coming on a regular basis I stopped tracking all those as majority of the projects never came to fruition. That being said if there is a solid project and if it can really make a difference in real world rather than advertising and preaching about the potential and the would be plan, then there is a space for any project that can fulfil what they started out.

I think that people invest in all ICOs for the reason that tokens will still grow after the market, despite the weak project!

It depends on this project, if this project can bring something new and innovative than current another old project it can attract people to join this project and help it to grow or invest in this project...
Also, if the team behind this project can always keeping their promises to the community, it can bring more trust to this project and it can make this project can compete with another project...

Old or new projects can actually compete. Of course the new one will definitely be better because this new project usually has learned from the old project. Of course this is a good thing. So at any time there is certainly the latest breakthrough from the project that just started.

Why are new coins compared to existing coins? Especially comparing with btc is a very big mistake. If the existing coins are not able to renew their technologies, the new coins that will replace them will surely come.

I think here the answer is clear - can compete and even quite successfully, provided that the idea of the project is new and really advanced, and not another clone of the popular project

Why not ... I think it is quite possible if new projects bring any new ideas that investors and society can appreciate!

That depends with the team members if they are serious enough to develop the project, build stronger partnerships, giving trust with their community and how they promote the project. There are thousands of altcoins existing already in the crypto space and most of them can be considered as trash so if they will be able to avoid those negative footsteps from established altcoins then they can definitely compete with the older ones.

I think that it's very hard to compete to consolidated and old project for new ICO.... the main  problem is the lack of trust that investors actually have...so even if a project has good ideas it's not easy to make them spread in crypto community.

Well now there are many examples, eos tron are those coins that came out that year and capitalization even overtake the old coins ! I think compete of course can but it depends on the product!

I do not think a new coin can every take over Bitcoin or Ethereum but I think that new coins have the potential to reach the top 10 in the market cap, there are some new projects with so much prospects lately and many of them still coming.

Of course, there may be new projects that will be able to compete with top projects. But these projects should offer something new, unique.

Most of the new coins at this time cannot successfully compete with the established one especially at this time when things are not going well with crypto market. Many of them do not even make it to exchanges let alone competition.  Few that make it quickly drop in ICO price because of massive dump.  As a result of these and some other factors, it will be difficult for new projects to compete with the existing ones.

Why not? New ideas are always good. Without new ideas there will be monopoly and there will be no progress. If the new ideas coming up are having a more advanced and more different features than the existing one, then maybe that will be the next big thing that is going to rise that would match the cryptocurrency king.

New projects can compete with established ones
They just need to have a good working prototype and product that would invite investors and partners

There is no doubt about it, that some coins are already established, so those that are just coming up need to do a lot, in terms of development.
Every coin is looking and working towards mass adoption. So if the new coin has been able to gain mass adoption, there will be little tasks left to compete favourably with those that have been well established.

But how do you feel about Nauticus? They're another exchange but they'll be doing Securities and FIAT onboarding as well as BNB token economics with their NTS token

And I know people grill GRIN for being an experimental coin but I think it's got potential too

It is possible for a new project to be even better than any existing project.
Every project has the chance of success, but the way towards that point would be to make the project to be the best possible outcome that everyone wanting so much from a project.

What do you think the factors that lead to mass adoption are?

Nauticus seems to be doing that with their marketing and roadmap planning, listening to people and giving them what they want.


GRIN needs work. Theres no proof of receipt yet.

yes, of course it can. even though the project is similar, they can still survive. sometimes new projects, offer something different, and it becomes their superiority compared to existing projects. well, I saw a project like that several times.

I think we should always keep an eye on new projects. Because they are already trying to avoid the mistakes of the previous ones. And sometimes it is better to re-create something than to redo it. Therefore, I always follow new directions.

Depends on the project and the size really. If you can build a product that is wanted by everyone, then it will sell.

If you build a coin that is really good and idea is loved by everyone, execution is great, team behind it is great, they have funds to market it vastly and everywhere, then they will get the funding they deserve from the ICO and afterwards with their good idea and good execution and good team and good marketing, well you understand where I am going. Established also depends on what the rank you are talking about.

There are coins that is 5+ years old which is beneath a thousand coins, dead and burred however there are coins that are top ranked like btc,eth,xrp as well. So, if you mean if a new coin can get into top 20, yes it can, if you mean a new coin can get into top 10? it could, a bit harder, but if you mean a coin going into top 3 ? That's really hard to achieve.

Yes of course. There is always a competition on the market. No matter what product is. The blockchain is really a new project. Its only 10 years old and new projects will come day by day. And the best ones will challenge.

I have no doubts that the new coins are going to show their potential on the upcoming bearish market. They have not experienced any bullish trend and we will see who will win this battle, but I am almost sure that new coins are going to be better.

Innovation doesn't care about who came first.

If the project is enough good to attract attention or interest of investors and there is a known and strong team behind this project. It is likely this could happpen. This is not something that rarely happens and there are already many real examples of this.

I consider that new projects are swamping the market which to pick is a question when you consider in this bear market top projects are so tied to BTC performance. These projects may even disappear from the market and in the next bull run be replaced by second gen block-chain innovative technology its just picking the right projects. This has been said time and time again by a block-chain investor who I listen to. Hopefully the next bull run these projects aren't tied to the performance of BTC.

Now on the market there are many cryptocurrencies and projects on which you can earn good money. Nevertheless it seems to me that there are good chances to find new projects with rich meaningful prospects. So don't waste your time. Try to find best way to earn.

Even as even now they can old projects to beat,as there is an experience which paved old projects,and most importantly,old projects, many have now lost a large market capitalization and money,and nachinat to sokrashat staff,and as always this leads to nothing good,so Novinka even more chances than the old,because the old is already more than 1 year are kept in the red

To make a successful new coin, it is all about offering something new in your product. That is why GRIN is getting hype now, it offers something new in its features. I think that after so many projects the new coins that will come not offering something new will go unnoticed and die.

new coins can compete but they will have to have a strong team and concept behind them. coins that use ddaps will be popular in the future. coins like Tron.Eth or Helios protocol

Binance became on the most popular exchanges for 1 year. I think if the project is really good, it won't be a problem to compete with the established ones. Product is the most important for every project.

A feature of the cryptocurrency market is that it is constantly in development to achieve perfection someday.
Therefore, new projects are constantly emerging.
If the project is thought out and it is led by a strong team, then it has chances for success.
I am sure that there will be a lot of interesting projects that will prove themselves and allow players to make a profit.

Grin seem to be doing well which means it could compete to the established ones. There are few that are very noticeable in the market like EOS and TRX that were making a big leap in terms of its development, not to its price though but certainly they are newer than ETH and those previous coins too.

It's very possible for new projects  to compete with already established ones. It all depends on the team, product and project aim. For instance, before Binance, there existed some big exchanges like Bitfinex and Bittrex, but when Binance came to lime light, it stole the show from them. Hope you know what I mean.

I think it's possible. But the project team will need to work a lot. They must have a new idea. Something new for the community. Good marketing. Then they can withstand the competition.

it could be as long as the project continues to grow and has good quality. so nothing is impossible. we take the example is ethereum with EOS, EOS is a new project also compared to ethereum. but EOS can still compete and have a community that is loyal to EOS.

I do not understand why creators of Grin decided that this coin will such big inflation rate. Why I should invest when I know that my invested money will be gradually devalued  ::).

everything can happen in crypto and anyone can be big here, it all depends on development they are doing to make their project successful ... maybe later when market has started to grow we will see many new projects that will compete with several existing projects

New projects can definitely grow big depending on factors like team competency or experience and pace of development plus popularity and multiple use cases alongwith massive number of users, although competition is on the rise but there is still massive space for new projects to grow big.

Not any cryptos created can't compete with bitcoin,all they need to focus is that they need to get them better among the other crypto currencies and make their crypto stand out from the crowd,the GRIN and other exchange will get more value from now but don't expect it to have value of bitcoin.

No, the new ones cannot compete, because the “old” ones already have a target audience and market capitalization. These factors greatly affect the life of the project.

So why not? If the project really provides good opportunities for the development of the field of activity and has a good product that is really in demand, then of course it will have every chance to compete with already existing projects, and it may even bring them, there are enough such examples on the market.

However if the new ones have far better business model, features and such thing then there is a high chance that the new project will take over the market from the old ones as emerging project.
People are not so blinded to not realize that there is better option out there.

I can say from experience that it is very difficult for old projects to compete with new ones. Almost 90% of all the projects that boomed in 2017 are dead now leaving those that were in existence before the 2017 year.
If it comes to competition, I dont see anything like that because what are existing are trusted more than what are new so they cannot compete.

Why not? Once the project is in light of what can give people fulfillment in the area where any projects seeks to handle,  then they will definitely thrive.. Even much more than the so called established projects... Cos a new development seeks to improve on the shortcomings of an old one

Of course I agree with that.The stronger and more creative the team, the more chances for success of the project.Why draw Parallels between old and new projects?After all, they are like fingerprints all different.Logically speaking, of course, old projects should be more successful than new ones because they had time for development.But do not forget that not all of this development is necessary.Someone has collected money and sits drinking coffee.And someone right now for free is preparing a cool project.

The problem is that new coins / ICO are often a copy of another and they do not live long, mostly while there is a benefit for traders. I advise you to deal with standing coins.

I do not know anything about grin, but I have invested in Nauticus and I truly believe in this project. They are following their roadmap and have already launched their exchange. I am sure they will compete with all major exchanges within several months from now on.

while the project is better and many innovations, of course, new projects can compete with pre-existing projects. the new project will definitely provide more innovation and the latest development.

There is no difference between a new and an old project if both are good or Vice versa bad. I think that new projects are more interesting, but again, not all.

Given the long bear market in the near future, the likelihood of such competition is extremely small. But progress does not stand still. Over time, innovation will bring new effective solutions for existing technologies. It will not be possible to ignore more advanced projects. And the existing powerful companies will cooperate with them.

The new coins competing with the already established coins depends on the strength of the team and the essence of the project. That will be difficult anyway.

Why not... Crypto is full of surprises so I don't really underestimate any of the new coins, besides I know none of the coins were created as a king right from Start. It took time for each of the established coin to get this far so it's a matter of time.

I don't necessarily think they are going to compete with establish ones but rather build off of the strongest projects that already exist. Whether it's an added layer for security, compatibility or even a token contract on top of an existing platform kind of like how ampleforth plans to interact and utilize more than one chain starting with Ethereum.

It's depends on the project. If the project is good and they stick to their roadmap and deliver good product as they promised then they can compete with older one. But the thing is grin and nauctius both are very much new for this market. We can bet on a project they gonna come to top or not based on their performance. So we have to wait and look at them what they do in long run. I know grin is like Bitcoin but not properly they are mainly privacy focused. And come to nauctius it's really hard to compete with BNB at this moment first they have to reach the volume of top 10 exchange then maybe they gonna compete binance one day.

Unique and viable projects can compete or even displace the old cryptocurrencies especially if the  cryptocurrencies are not under constant improvement or development. Grin is not competing with Bitcoin. It's technically part of the Bitcoin project.

I suggest you look at grin too; but yeah man Nauticus is the real deal; really could replace Coinbase in the future.

it's very difficult to defeat the already famous. because of the concept and the ico model, almost all of them. if you want a new project and defeat the existing ones, you must make the only one in the market, or the best among all the projects in the market.

A very good and reasonable answer. Maybe it is one way to be able to compete with existing ones. Because the projects that were just after their sales all have not progressed. How to compete with famous ones.

For any new project to have a chance to compete with new project it has to put in alot of effort and momentum. Many people are now afraid of new project now. But if any sound project comes into the space with novel it can compete with establish ones

It happens all the time and a good new project with a solid idea and team can still perform very well. However, it can take some time for people to learn about new good projects. The old projects have the early mover advantage that can be difficult to overcome sometimes even if the new project has a better technology.

The possibility to compete is of course open. However, keep in mind that GRIN has a small chance to compete with BTC considering the thousands of coins that have the same potential and it is still too early to discuss it. NTS is a good exchange and based on experience there are no problems so far, NTS will certainly be able to compete with the BNB.

Old projects can be seen as failing. And for this new project, it certainly gives its own color and gives a good concept. But it all depends on the Team and the Developer because they will develop the project to become big.

There was also a blog I saw it shows that the Miblewimble protocol still isn't fully private it has issues on mainting unlinkability through nodes just as others.  ;)

In my opinion, new projects and new coins and tokens are created in order to compete with old ones. This is how cryptocurrency can and should develop. New ideas and new technical solutions will appear constantly. This old coins and tokens need to constantly monitor in order to be competitive, otherwise they can eventually be thrown out of the market.

I think that only 5-10 old projects can compete with new projects. After all, you need to allocate a lot of money to the competition.

Definitely Yes i did new project that compete with the existing coins have only made gain in new coin so am advocate of new coin.

If it's a good one surely it will attract investors and create a noise around the market, there's always chances for new one to compete if there's real usage and community is strong enough to create attentions, from time to time people / investors are looking for possible venue to invest their money, if they find good advantage and potentials they will begin to study everything about the new offers, all the advantages will be notice before to invest.

Technology is keep improving and enhancement always account into considerations.

Of course, the new project certainly has better potential. And that doesn't mean this old project has no potential. New projects and old projects, in my opinion, depend on you who chose the project. Because both have the opportunity to succeed, but it can be a failed project. And you must be careful in choosing a project.

unfortunately now many new projects come with concepts that are similar to pre-existing projects. they come not with a good solution to offer. then their chances of competing with existing projects are very heavy.

sure, if they can implement new techniques

Of course, this is possible, because now there are quite a few interesting projects that can easily compete with old ones!

Yes, there are many excellent projects, which not only will be competitors, but may also press old projects from the market, mr crypto is only gaining momentum, and old projects are full of flaws, with which new ones can easily cope.

The problem for new projects is that they are forks... and they're not particularly good ones at that. If a developer from one coin is trying something out, i think if you are going to fork a project, make sure u try something else so your work doesnt overlap..

A new project can be a very good competitor. Because more and more new projects, of course, there will be many choices for choosing the best. I personally rate this new project very good because many have succeeded. But there are also many fraud projects. So we must be careful when choosing an ICO project.

I think the new projects will not be the competent for BTC because each and every new project has a goal to achieve so it's been going like that we don't think about our investment please down with a new project.

This is a good question. I believe that is quite hard for blockchain based projects to achieve the level or standard platforms because of their new age, user interface or technical reasons. I believe that some industries have it easier to perform and reach users if they have a user friendly interface and the concept is simple. Lets take transaction applications or communication platforms. I've been using lately Sylo, which right now is a semi-centralized platform for communication. They have been around for few years, so they are not just another ICO. Since blockchain offers easier decentralization through it's nodes, Sylo team used P2P technology combined with a blockchain protocol to make communication immutable or basically fully decentralized. This is an example, so projects that have a working product and try to use blockchain to improve it, may stand a change. But having other projects that rely on blockchain alone and have just started will be quite hard to get on top in their respective niche.

I think there are chances that new projects can compete with established projects. As long as there are competitive team and supportive investors in a project, there's no stopping a project from growing.

Yes, basically when the time is moving, new technology arises, and these new projects comes with new and better technology that's why we can assume that these new projects can out do some already established ones.

maybe, why not? If the project has a good idea and a hard working team, they can completely overcome established projects, you can see it more specifically in real life, there are many new companies are growing and getting stronger

You have mentioned grin here. So, new project can compete with old one if they have something innovative to offer. Grin has already proved it it was able to reach at top 200 crypto at the beginning of its journey.

But there are many new coins which are created totally base on platform of old coins and also follow their roadmap. Is it considered a completion for the old ones?

the development of crypto currencies and crypto projects requires innovation and change that will get better if it really needs something new and can make it more developed again I think it will be better

I think it depends a lot on the projects themselves that will be launched today because almost all possibilities have already been released and in addition, many old projects are adaptable and able to evolve even if they are old.

Any project can compete with any other project some old projects might feel reluctant and pause their development plans. New projects with active dev team who have better usecase will always compete in the space.

eth and waves are not new . they arent also surpass by some newbie projects out there  . some new ico's can surely pump up but that does not mean that they already beat the older ones  .  the competition are not only based on the price but what important is thier usage or usefulness  .

almost all of the newer projects dont have a new thing to offer because established ones already got thier idea  .


its my first time to hear about nauticus but grin do have a potential to succeed because it has  a unique feature that can compete with other cryptos .

With the current situation of the market, I don't think new projects can survive and compete with the established ones. Even the established ones hardly make it now in the market due to this long season. And if, in case, they are, there's no telling how far they can go. There are also a lot of promising projects aside from Grin and Nauticus like Moneytoken and Ubex, but they seem to be problematic too. No. 1 is the funding. It's really difficult to get a project run without sufficient funds. Even the investors turn their back 'coz everyone's affected greatly by the dramatic drop in value (not just in price). That's why many projects now are on stand-by or lie-low mode, waiting for the market to get up, so they can get the right timing. I guess, that's even a more practical move rather than trying to compete nowadays.

Come on, everytime I see someone comparing a project and choosing his favorite, there's always the extension of nauticus.

GRIN has the potential but with nauticus, I can't say a thing.

Of course they can. The more new projects we have the better for the community and the market. New projects will stimulate competitiveness and this way make the products they make more qualitative. But we are speaking about good projects not the hundreds and thousands of new scamming ones like it is at the moment...

New project development is a sign of innovation and progress and it is somehow gives all the investors the protection from monopolization and manipulation. It encourages also to promote new and updated system and technology but those old projects that are considered pioneer are already proven that they had established their name with time and through its usage in crypto space.

I also believe that GRIN has great potential in 2019. Today GRIN price has increased by 40% and is listed in Bittrex, this is a good altcoin and can hold in the long term

the established projects some time ago also were the new ones. so the new projects with good concept may have a success on the market.

The answer for that question is yes it can. But it will need more times to compete with other project that already stabilize. Its impossible new project can beat old one. However there is a chance to develop and adapt for being stabilize like older project.

it could happen that in my opinion now investors are smarter in choosing the best opportunities that we can get to make a profit and if only the new coins to promise profit I think that will be chosen by investors

Definitely new projects can compete with existing ones. As long as the team are upto the task and ready to put up a healthy competition, then the project might do more than expected.

Yes a new project can rival already established projects that is if the new project is well managed and has good idea but this would take some time for the project to develop and get attention

It is good to have new projects but the question is that, how many of them has what it takes to compete with the established projects, you have mentioned two good coins but we should wait and see if they can compete with the likes of BNB and BTC, because as far as am concern, GRIN is not really doing well in the market for now.

Can newer projects make big enough waves to usurp their much older larger brethren?
Why not?
If the new project has good prospects going forward and also has objectives that are relevant to the current problem conditions, the new project might be able to outperform existing projects.

There are many new projects that are capable of showing very high results among old projects. Many projects are really good, with a good product. And very often it happens that the new project lead just because of the hype!

And yes and no, it already depends on the project. Theoretically, every project has a chance. But in order for it to survive, you need to well calculate the development plan, economic factors and much more.

They started from zero and working hard to achieve that level so i think there is no problem with the new coins as long as its legal, they have the future to become big coins also. We are always welcome for the new competitor but they should be more innovative compare to the old coins.

The market is still being formed, it is young, growing and expanding, so that the new and high-quality project will have quite good chances to gain a foothold and start the fight

Ideally the new projects are now having even better metrics and fundamentals than the existing ones and so well, you may depend on different comparative measures to make a valid conclusion.

I think they can. Still, in old projects there are some mistakes and shortcomings, new projects can provide a more convenient and better platform. Of course, there are projects with which it will be difficult to compete, but there are very few of them.

Now IMHO most old projects are overvalued and it will be very hard for the new projects to reach such capitalizations. People start to think before investing and always checking total capitalization. For example look at BCH or BTG, new projects must have a much higher idea and tech to reach their capitalization, but IMHO this is possible.

sure , everything is possible , new project have fresh idea and sometimes the developer team behind that are poeple who  have been in this field very long and its really possible

Also considering that developers are also one of those teams behind old projects who have something new in minds and start building new concepts,
same with you, fresh ideas which can cover the needs of its target venue will bring new project to outstand or compete with older ones who already
existing, improving the offers and making things much clearer.

It's not about the competition, its about the development of the whole blockchain ecosystem and it's about mass adoption. You really compare any coins with Bitcoin as I believe it will remain stand on its own pride forever. Regarding other projects like ETH or GRIN you mentioned, if it delivers sustainable tech and improves adoption, it will get a strong top place for sure.

I think they will need some time to be established first? They currently have low market supporters to support them and compete with those already big ones.

It is too early to talk about competition, new projects still do not have any achievements so that they can be compared. Let's see what they show us in time.

if the project looks promising for the future, the possibility of a new project that has a good reputation and is acceptable to the community because they have an impressive idea of ​​course the project can compete with other existing platforms and they will complement each other but it will not drop previous existing platforms

why can't, all have the same opportunity. so it wants a new or old project, as long as the project is good it can definitely compete. we take the example of the project with the Dapp concept, what are many new projects that exist but all of them can compete.

Mimblewimble do really rocks!

And that's the new craze right now, I'm expecting other projects to adopt this protocol which they believe to make their coins better. That's just the start of it and for GRIN, it will proceed and though it has pumped quickly right now it's on the stabling stage.

During the period of market recovery, we are unlikely to see this competition, but later the active competition of innovative projects with existing ones will begin. Progress does not stand still. And over time, in the top 15 players, someone will have to move

depending on the project, if the project is still the same concept but with a new model, I think it can't. if you want to compete, then the initial concept must be different.

Quite possible. There are projects that surpass those that one after another collected hard cap on the general wave of hype in 2017.

I believe that new projects are not so much competing with old ones, how many are trying to take a place in the crypto sphere. To compete with old projects, as practice shows in recent years, it makes no sense. Remember how many projects they said that they were "the killers" of Etherium, so what? Where are they? Believe me, projects like ETH and others that have long been on the market will not even give a chance for competitors to emerge. However, the emergence of new projects has a good effect on the development of technology as a whole and attracts even more users to cryptography.

The most important thing in the emerging project is the developed idea. If the project is not utopian such projects can compete. Now the market is experiencing a slight rise but it gives a good chance for new peaks.

It can easily compete with the existing project and also can become far superior in coming time provided they fulfill the gap or demand is being create of that coin which will be useful to millions of people in their daily needs. If this can be done it is definitely a successful project.

Yes, new projects can compete with old established projects! Last year, Pundix and TIOx, CMT, XYO did this! They entered in the top 50 to top 100 coin lists! Though I have no idea about grin but I am sure they are not competing with bitcoin! And I know about Nauticus exchange, they are doing good enough, but there are many good new better projects than Nauticus, I don't see any possibility in Nauticus to compete BNB!

There are certain things that projects, most especially the new ones are to consider before before lunch and even before they bring up their ICOs, if the truly want to make a great difference and compete with the coins that have been established.
Some of which are unique products, active team, products that will come with different innovations, developments and updates, good marketing strategy which can help to build hype and some other factors they can think of

In fact, despite the poor state of the cryptocurrency market, the rush on the ico market of companies is still quite large. Many developers can not do certain actions so that their project has a good and stable development. First of all, I don’t like the recent migration trend of many projects from one platform to another.

Generally, the new project will have a difficult progress if it want to compete with the existing project.
But if there are some big companies support the new project, become partner with it, maybe it can compete.
In cryptocurrency, anything can be happening unexpectedly and there will be there new projects trying to competing with the existing one.

New projects can compete with old projects and all depend on the developer. The new project, in my opinion, is more reliable because they emerge when the coin price drops. Meanwhile, if later the market has started to rise, these new coins can already generate profits.

I think the new project has bigger challenges than earlier one because they have to grow in downfall market. I think they have to work on many aspect like use their own funding partially for project, limited time in which they launch ico on bigger exchange competitive product. Through these they can launch successful ico

Of course, as long as they can offer something to the table and they can compete and be on a good rank in the market, we have seen this happen on so many new coins in the market, but build up takes time, and they should have something better than the other coins with the same concept.

To say, It's a no for me, already established projects or cryptos are just going to eat the new coins in the market. But if the new project do really possess the best characteristic it can have, it can dominate those that are already established.

Why not, investors are always on the look for a new kid in town and checking if it has something to offer to investors and community, if they can find something worthwhile or unique then they will go for it and besides it pays handsomely to be an early bird to a good project.

Of course they can, a lot of new projects are quite capable of implementing very interesting ideas!

Of Course they can. New projects, new ideas, new technologies, new implementation, great timeline and great market strategy can have a long good impact on the project and its result. Also, they can study the past projects, and know its flaws so that it can be used as an advantage in implementing theirs. They can compete. It may only take time.

Sometimes many new projects enter the market with very good and interesting features, but when they go longer they all die and disappear. This happens a lot, the most difficult for a new project is to survive. It is very difficult for new projects to be able to compete with old projects such as BTC. I think there is no need for a new project to be able to compete with old projects, the most important thing is to be able to survive long on the market. Let alone competing with old projects, to survive is still very difficult.

It all depends on marketing and technology. For example, Ethereum has competition with EOS and TRX but Ethereum is still in the lead. If we talk about the stock exchange, we remember that Binance is a young company but due to marketing it is a leader in the trading market !

I believe that is very possible because in my opinion, the real competition starts when mainstream adoption kicks in. So all the projects out there does not really have a lot of advantage except some of them that are already established because of their names getting hyped and mentioned.

I think new projects have every chance to overtake their older brothers, but they need time to do so. Finance takes many steps to popularize the exchange itself and cryptocurrencies in General, but this does not mean that it can not be shifted from the pedestal.

I think there're always chances for new projects to compete with the existing estahblished ones. It depends on the projects themself how to reach their goals and consistently doing developments.
I am not too clear about grin, but I don;t think other altcoins can reach bitcoin for now.

Let’s just say that instead of competing; they are complementing established projects by bringing in their ideas and solution

Just like tron stellar and eos are doing very good behind etherum

And litecoin is complementing bitcoin well too

I think new project has a great advantage in competing with established ones due to they can see the flaw of the established one and new ones has the chance to fix that flaws and make their project more better than the established ones ;)

It depends on project itself, BTT may be example. It is in 48th place. But, depending on the situation, others can not even get to the softcap. Also " softcap reachers" are traded several times below the ICO price.

I think anything can happen to new crypto or new projects. in my opinion crypto can only be combined with what already exists depending on the TEAM's performance from the project. so the success of a crypto depends on the seriousness of the team to achieve it.

Yes there is every chance that new projects can surpass existing ones. I don't know about grin, but nauticus has been doing excellently well lately which has given it chances of survival.  Also a yet to trend exchange ironx will be doing better too

I think it depends not only on how good the developer team is - which is really important - but what problem want they solve.
Like our project https://www.maxicreditcompany.com/ (https://www.maxicreditcompany.com/) where we develop a peer-to-peer lending system to take a step forward to not only lending to hodlers.

I see some assets are now experiencing a fairly high increase, but not all of them are rising. mostly there is an upward trend, although a little we will wait for the assets we have up on the market, because now we are ready for the arrival of bulls.

As time passes, new and improved technology and approach would hit the market and Almost all of older coins would fail to upgrade as there would always be a limit on how far a coin can upgrade unless you do a complete swap which is unlikely for a large coin. So, it's just a matter of time the new projects would surely compete with established ones and make them obsolete.

I believe cryptocurrencies will be gaining legitimacy as a protocol for business transactions, micropayments, and overtaking Western Union as the preferred remittance tool. Regarding business transactions – you’ll see two paths: There will be financial businesses which use it for it’s no fee, nearly-instant ability to move any amount of money around, and there will be those that utilize it for its blockchain technology. Blockchain technology provides the largest benefit with trustless auditing, single source of truth, smart contracts, and color coins

Every coin that has secured a position in the top list were once a new coin. Some coins stayed without any form of growth for a long term and then experienced growth reaching the top list. Same can happen with new coins, comparison is not an issue, something appropriate needs to be compared.

This doesn‘t change the fact that cryptocurrencies are here to stay – and here to change the world. This is already happening. People all over the world buy Bitcoin to protect themselves against the devaluation of their national currency. Mostly in Asia, a vivid market for Bitcoin remittance has emerged, and the Bitcoin using darknets of cybercrime are flourishing. More and more companies discover the power of Smart Contracts or token on Ethereum, the first real-world application of blockchain technologies emerge.

The revolution is already happening. Institutional investors start to buy cryptocurrencies. Banks and governments realize that this invention has the potential to draw their control away. Cryptocurrencies change the world. Step by step. You can either stand beside and observe – or you can become part of history in the making.

There are new project coming up and some of them are actually good but I don't think that they can be compared with projects that have really stood the test of time and are still doing good

The old projects were new projects some time ago, so it is a free market and competition is good. In 5 years we will have many projects in TOP 20 that are not existing today. This is a normal process called progress.

new projects still have opportunities and of course it takes time to get better so that someday they might be able to compete with new projects with old projects.
sometimes it's also not much, old projects that are solid and of good quality are not easy to beat with new projects that are not necessarily good, so it depends on the project so we need to research before choosing it.

GRIN is one of the promising projects that will have a good future
But is not expected to compete or threaten the status of bitcoin
The bitcoin still dominates the encryption market leadership
It is also able to take advantage of every new development.

Grin is also like every other good project in the crypto sphere, that has got the attention investors due to it's technology, but bitcoin, being the forerunner and the store of value for most investors, should not be compared to it.

If that so, then maybe we could provide them some time, maybe one year may do? Binance doesn't really gets good in just a short time. Establishments as a comparable, is build on months, just like on the cryptocurrency space. Projects and ICO's needs time to be established, and also needs more time to gain popularity.

If the project is good then it can definitely give a tough competition to old ones. Being old doesn't mean that new projects will always below them. Quality of work decides the future of anything.

older projects are constantly being improved upon. it's the way of things. so you might have an old favorite, like ETH for instance. but we know ETH has many problems with fees or congestion. there are better projects coming along. these projects will eventually blow these older ones out of the water with what they are doing.
Take a look at the project in my signature. that is working on all the flaws in existing projects like ETH,EOS,Tron and the like. the team have a refreshing approach to solving things and are all known. nothing is hidden

I we compare Grin with Bitcoin is a ridiculous choice. it should not be done, because bitcoin is an asset that has a huge impact on market movements too large for Grin's assets.

Yes, new projects can compete with old projects. Also the new projects can pass old projects. Just being an old project doesn't mean that the project is good. What is important is the team members and the project's vision. I believe that, all the old projects that cannot develop themselves will be defeated by the a new project with a vision more than the old in future.

Well i think a new project can compete with old ones, but for this is need a new technology, and a new way for confirmation and new features, if someone can do it for example send the new coin without internet and once get connected to internet you receive it, this can also be used on some places where is not internet.

I think they would but it would take a lot of seriousness and hard work on the part of the developers.. But it's rather unfortunate that majority of the ICOs of today are providing lazy and reckless  CEOs who know next to nothing about running successful projects.

Of course new projects can , new projects are always under development , and look at eos as it develops

It is good that new projects with new ideas enter the market and compete with the old projects.
All the altcoins were new coins some day ago like ETH or BNB  and now are top coins.
It is normal part of the technology evolution that new ones replace some old ones.
The market is here to decide.

at least there is a difference with the old project. because developments that don't exist in the old project will be of more value than the new project. if they come with no more value from their project. then we can be sure the market will leave them shortly after their community disappears.

Well it's not really a guarantee that new crypto coins that are existing today will sureply replace those old ones. It will matter most on its own quality if it can compete with the old and trusted one. But it's also a great idea that new crypto coins have arise which simply means that the market is still able to generate new ones that are as competitive with the old and established ones.

Yes of course ,it's very possible for new projects to compete favorably with already established projects.
There are projects whose aim was to improve upon some of the key technologies of Bloc for the purpose of driving adoption, but unfortunately, their proposed solution isn't sufficient to improve upon these technologies effectively.
So technically, a new coin might want to introduce so e itger cutting edge technologies and leverage on the solutions already proposed by project A to bring about a desired solution.
It depends.

Yes its very possible and there are new projects that will surely surpass the old ones infact we still have few projects that are first of there kind like miracle telecom project ,its the first telecom project on blockchain

why can't the new project compete with the old ones? If they have a much better developed product and it is made more understandable to people, then it will be even more popular than the old ones ...

Every week we are witnessing the listing of dozens of new altcoins. Although the vast majority of them will never get in to the top-100 list, once in a while there will be exceptions. One such project that comes to my mind is Ontology. It was first listed in 2018, and now it ranks among the top-20 cryptos in terms of market capitalization.

If they can compete as long as they are at the level, or close, as there may be a project that has enough community, good development and capitalization is increasing, in that case it should be listed in Level 1 Exchanges, to be able to compete, it is mostly taken into account the volume of capitalization if it is large. There are many projects that have been successful, because their developers and owners invest the money that is necessary for their currency to be recognized and not fall into the hands of Dump and Pump.

That is the reality and it really depends the kind of technology that is behind the new one and how good is been promoted in the cycle of cryptocurrencies enthusiasts.  The old coins has there foundations no doubt but the new one can make great improvement in pricing if  many people has adopted it.

No matter how good the new project can be, but they never cross of Bitcoin. The new project can come under the top coin list. I think bitcoin always stand its way. No coin cross it. It is the King of the crypto market.  Grin is good project and its build slowly but it cannot take place of Bitcoin.

In any custom, there are exceptions. Projects like you called one in a few hundred. And this means that there are very serious people behind him who are promoting him and have invested big money in him.
I am not interested in new projects because of their big risks. Of course, they can also bring greater profits, but the chances of making profits and losses are no longer equal.

Exposure is needed to promote a good project. If the new one has solid foundation to start with, then, it has high chance of growing in the crypto community. Most of the new projects have very short lifespan because they are not intended to be developed in the first place. Just mere pump and dump. But if that new project is really serious in developing their platform, then I don't see the reason why it can't compete with the old ones?

Of course, new projects can compete with old and established ones because every new projects can stand on the shoulders of giants and go much further/farther

Of course a project can compete with established ones. But can't be compare to bitcoin.  Bitcoin is standing firm. There are new projects doing very well.  It's all depends on the project. When there's a good plan and good team? Sure a new project can compete.

I don't think this project can in any way compete with Bitcoin, they are here for different mission entirely, So I don't see them competing with BTC or BNB, but dey are good projects to watch out for.

New projects can and will represent bright promising ideas in combination with revolutionary technologies. Thanks to healthy competition, we see a lot of interesting new generation products on the market. Progressive projects receive a decent reward and recognition in the cryptographic community.

You're right. The more competition the better technology. So make new discoveries. Every year the number of projects increases. And this means that soon a new type of bitcoin will be opened and we are going to a new stage in the development of cryptocurrency and not only cryptocurrency.

Based on the experience that has occurred, the new project is difficult to compete with coins that have been in the market for a long time and the market cap is already high. I think it will be difficult to compete with them.

Yes they can,certainly not with bitcoin however.Many of the older projects have not been able to deliver on their promises. They are solely driven by speculation and not really by function or utility. Grin so far is not doing badly but it is certainly not a replacement for bitcoin

Though Bitcoin has been the dominant name in the crypto space so far and has been very instrumental in shaping lives, it is just backed by technology and technology can get advanced as well. If we happened to get a yet more advanced technology than Bitcoin, surely the demand for Bitcoin will decrease. Do you guys remember the big player in the mobile phone company which was outperformed by the arrival of smartphone?

Stop comparing any new project with bitcoin. And even the established ones in the market are baby to bitcoin. Sometimes the developers even dump their project for bitcoin. Bitcoin is a class of its own.

The only way that the new crypto projects and new cryptocurrencies can compete with the already established crypto coins and platforms is by providing products that focus on resolving gaps seen in the crypto space and the world in general that the existing platforms and projects either failed to solve or hasn't identified. Such projects will have a relevant purpose on the crypto ecosystem which will make investors to invest in that project.

both new and old projects compete with each other and whatever can happen here as long as the project is superior to its competitors, and besides that the team that is really serious in developing their project will definitely be on it, whether it's a new project or long depends on how they work.

Yes indeed! the newer projects have an advantage of identifying the drawbacks of the older projects thus coming up with a better solution in order to compete and take the lead in the long run. The playground is always open for entrepreneurs.

The reason why we having more newer coins is to surpass the old ones and create better privacy haven for all crypto fans this is why I think that bitcoin will lose its crown someday, to judge things right we have few coins that are way better than bitcoin in my own view

Of course, promising projects and their coins or tokens will be able to successfully compete with already known ones. Only for this they need some time to declare themselves, to show their usefulness and advantage over other types of cryptocurrencies. Over time, market participants will in any case appreciate the advantages of new cryptocurrencies and their popularity will grow. An example of this is the EOS coin, which almost immediately began to grow in popularity, since everyone saw its advantages over ethereum.