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Title: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Goodvalony on February 08, 2019, 04:09:15 PM
it is wrong to believe that ICOs that have a successful sales,TGE, testnet,mainnet, ETC are been dump by bounty hunters and airdrops owners. whoever come up with that fact got it all wrong.
i strongly believed that TOKENs are been dump by the same investors that gained lots of bonus of their investment should be held responsible. Never and never will you put it on the hunters. it is business people. everyone wants to make money very quick.
My reason below:

A project minted one millions tokens and draws out plans for sales and distribution with this format:
50,000 for bounties and airdrops
700,000 for sales
100,000 for managers, ambassadors, legal team, and the rest.
150,000 for research, contest giveaways and probably burnt the remaining tokens and bla bla bla.
1 token= 0.001eth
minimum investment=0.1    therefore 0.1eth = 100 tokens
this is use case scenario)
ICO sales promises a tangible % of the minimum investment. eg 25% of what u invest) for 1st sales. if you invest, 1ETH, you get, 1000 token Plus 250 tokens= 1250 total.
                                                                                               10% of what you invest for 2nd sales. if you invest 1Eth, you get 1000 tokens plus 100 tokens = 1100 total

For the bounties and airdrops, there is every tendency that the highest earner for a bounty goes home with 2000 while the rest battles with the remaining 48,000 tokens.
there is also a probability that there will be left over at the end of the bounty distribution which the bounty manager sends back to the project owners.

it is very clear that this business is all about the more you invest, the high change of getting more tokens.I  believe that since an investor can spend over 5,6 or more eth to gain huge bonus from his investment.  he wastes no time selling off his goods immediately it hits the market and knowing perfectly well that he is on the profit.
EG
he spend 2 ETH  to get 2500 tokens. (500 tokens are bonus) . The token hits the market at the price of 0.0005eth if we can start from that price.
he choose to sell back 2200 tokens at 0.000987 to get 2.1736ETHEREUM.
He gains 0.1736 from this sales and still a  left over of 300 tokens in his wallet.
There is a probabilty that the price might go up. he might sell if he wishes or he can keep for the long term strategy.

While a bounty hunter that earns an average of 1,200 to 800 tokens manages to sell off at 0.000987 (if he earn 1200) to get 1.184eth which covers stress time, internet bills and miscellaneous stuff.

Also remember that while an investor is free to DUMP off his token and move on to another project, the hunter's token is luck up for months.

SO i believed that tokens are dumped in the market by the same investors once they are sure of profit in order to move to the next ico in the market. Not the bounty hunters or airdrop holders.




Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: bartolo on February 08, 2019, 04:26:01 PM
It's widely known that the biggest dumpers are presale and private investors who get big discounts in ICOs. In your example, you are talking about one investor who gets a 25% bonus, which is relatively low considering that there are ICOs where early investors can get 50% or higher bonuses. They can easily sell their tokens, get profit and buy again at a much lower price.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: batang_bitcoin on February 08, 2019, 04:32:38 PM
In short, everyone is just chasing for the profit and don't want to miss the train of dumping.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: kindbtc on February 08, 2019, 04:42:51 PM
Yes you are on point i will add one two more points in your topic, one is that from last one year what ever the tokenomics or even the icos without bounty the prices have still dumped so i guess its about overall market volume and demand in the market secondly in last one year bounty hunters have not received any decent reward so question of dumping in big numbers just gets diluted. I think this question and debate will continue till there is ico and bounty.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: mu_enrico on February 08, 2019, 04:47:47 PM
It's about trading strategy. If you are sure that the project you are investing in is a good project, then you might dump and buy back later when the price is low.

Why would you hold if you are sure that the dumping is inevitable? Both smart investors and smart hunters dump and buyback.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: bolshojkush on February 08, 2019, 05:20:13 PM
There were a lot of publications on this occasion. Always after a successful ICO there is a short-term pump. Then, the cryptocurrency rate drops sharply and it takes a very long time for the cryptocurrency to grow again to the previous values or higher. Jan balina published a very cool schedule on this topic, but I couldn't find it.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: nlaara12 on February 08, 2019, 05:31:46 PM
I want to agree that private investors dump more than bounty hunters can do, infact most of the projects these days don't give bounty hunters their rewards until the price has dump to nothing. I guess locking the token of private investors will be the best like some projects are doing now.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: No Pain No blood on February 08, 2019, 05:44:22 PM
I think the reason is because nobody bought it. even though the project was good but there was no demand it was like a big dump. so it doesn't matter who sells the tokens first. because the reason is that nobody bought the token after listing.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Leah38 on February 08, 2019, 06:08:43 PM
Good day! In would say that private sale investors do the dumping the most because they bought their tokens at a lower price than ICO. But in fairness to them, private investors are the risk takers of all considering private sales requires a higher minimum purchase amount. They are what we call brave ones who are ready to gamble either its a win or loose game. As we know not all token sales are successful. So them selling their bags once tokens reach exchange is their right.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Omela44 on February 08, 2019, 06:26:31 PM
I've always been aware that bounty hunters are not to blame for a dump. I also believe that the investors who bought their tokens with a big bonus are the people who dump the token for provit.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: jaywizzy on February 08, 2019, 06:34:45 PM
The major causes after successful ICO is because of the investors that are invest huge amount during the pre sale and during ICO. After they have make their money and  profit they have in focus they decided to dumped the token.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Geenstijl on February 08, 2019, 06:49:03 PM
The major causes after successful ICO is because of the investors that are invest huge amount during the pre sale and during ICO. After they have make their money and  profit they have in focus they decided to dumped the token.

Discounts are evil. Bounty in tokens is evil as well. Both of them lead to a strong dump after the listing at any exchange. To prevent it founders should spend a lot of money to buy back tokens at the exchange with a high price. But there are too few teams which are able to do that.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: realcrypto on February 08, 2019, 06:51:34 PM
I will agree with you to some extent but I still believe that bounty hunters do contribute to the dumping of tokens. If you observe the market of some newly listed token from successful ICO's you will see that the rate of dumping is always high immediately bounty tokens are paid or released.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Binauf on February 08, 2019, 06:59:22 PM
The simple truth is "Profit" People want that quick profit and most of them forget that the project exists after dumping, so price keeps going down except it was listed in a bullish trend.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: el kaka22 on February 08, 2019, 07:01:45 PM
ICO phase is just a promotion phase, you are announcing and then show casing what you are going to do in that phase and based on this people may contribute to you if they are convinced with your promises and other checks. But, collecting as much as money as per expectation alone will not decide the success of a project hence its token may get dumped if investors lose faith on that project.

It means a project must assure about long term benefits so that its token holders may not come forward to dump. A successful ICO has nothing to do about market fluctuation of its token as it is pure based on how promising that project remains in the view of its investors.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: DanWalker on February 08, 2019, 07:54:57 PM
I was always wondering why TRON and another Justin Sun related projects so succeed. He managed to pump any project he started and this policy gradually leads to great success of any Justin Sun project nevertheless these project don't show a real performance and development. Bravo))


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Babbylily1112 on February 08, 2019, 08:00:41 PM
It is no longer a secret that investors, bounty hunters e.t.c dump their tokens just to make profit. Infact a bounty hunter that has spent months promoting a project, the next thing he or she has in mind is to dump tokens once distributed for maximum profit


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: adzino on February 08, 2019, 08:07:28 PM
Investors that change their mind or opinion about the project usually starts to dump it as soon as the token hits an exchange. Again, there are those bounty hunters that wants to cash out their project. So, they usually starts to dump all their earnings to get their payment. That is why it is never a wise thing to sell out the coins as soon as it listed on an exchange.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: jacafbiz on February 08, 2019, 08:09:59 PM
I don't know why you are trying to justify this, that bounty hunters are not the ones dumping the price after the ICO, there is no way bounty hunters can be make clean of this issue, because when you see someone using different accounts to claim tokens and move it to exchange to sell because he or she got it through a cheat. For me everyone is guilty, the team, VCs and he investors because it does not make sense to me to buy something today and sell at loss a week later, this is even common of ICOs without bounty campaigns


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Correlll on February 08, 2019, 08:15:21 PM
The most valuable reason for a big dump after the first listing on exchanges are the bounty hunters. Due to the current market situation they are trying to earn at least something after any bounty to stay in crypto sphere.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Uju4real on February 08, 2019, 08:23:07 PM
Token dump is just for profit, as a bounty hunter the most important reason why I dump my token when I receive is definitely to make profit and I know am not the only one that has the same mindset


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: castiloros on February 08, 2019, 09:09:51 PM
everyone wants to rapid and immediately get the best results before the value falls. this basis is the reason a lot of this value and the disposal took place is not good for the ongoing case. but surely many who have their own way to prepare a better token and a low price to start from scratch after getting lucky.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: SMOKEU on March 24, 2019, 06:33:57 PM
mostly investors are the one dumping their tokens, they want to get their money back fast so they can invest to another project again.. people are saying its the bounty hunters who are causing about the dump but its not!


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: kristensoto on March 24, 2019, 06:49:57 PM
Token dump is just for profit, as a bounty hunter the most important reason why I dump my token when I receive is definitely to make profit and I know am not the only one that has the same mindset
that will be a good choice for both investors and bounty hunters because they all know after the ICO the price ususally has tendancy to rise  much higher if the project success, and that will be the good time for them to sell for profit making the price drop very fast in short time.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: rjp55 on March 24, 2019, 06:55:10 PM
Everybody thinks bounties first but no, it is not bounties.

It is huge bonuses giving out to private parties, huge amounts giving out for team, partners, advisors and freelancers. Bounty is just a small drop on the sea.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Stavri on March 24, 2019, 07:03:10 PM
it is mostly dumped because of the team. if team could collect good money during the crowdsale it means that they made a good marketing strategy, but if they dont care about moving the project forward but they want only money they easily dump the coins they have.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Petchant on March 24, 2019, 07:50:22 PM
I have read many write ups online about this. Most time after the end of a solid project ICO, there will be short term soaring of its price before its price balance up. If the project is not that popular, expect its price to dip after the ico and as times goes on if the team continues to work on it, it will balance up.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Nesbee2 on March 24, 2019, 08:06:05 PM
The major cause of the price of tokens going below ico price is the big bonuses the give to early investors, that is my opinion . although others are of the opinion that bounty hunters are usually the cause but i don't want to believe that . i have seen a project where the developers  locked hunters reward  for months , yet the price of the token still dump way below ico price.

Again , the activities of the developers. if they are actively following their time line investors would want to hold and  not dump the token at a cheap rate . but if the reverse is the case, then investors may  dump the token  just to try to get back their capital.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: martina14 on March 24, 2019, 08:25:51 PM
It's widely known that the biggest dumpers are presale and private investors who get big discounts in ICOs. In your example, you are talking about one investor who gets a 25% bonus, which is relatively low considering that there are ICOs where early investors can get 50% or higher bonuses. They can easily sell their tokens, get profit and buy again at a much lower price.

I support this one, as the discount is really big on presale and private investors.
ICO TEAM Should end this kind of thread, as they should give a lock in period on those people.
People telling that market is being dumped by bounty participants which is not true.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: nikola22 on March 24, 2019, 08:30:07 PM
all people want to earn some money that's why they sell tokens and it causes the price dump. but if the project is good it will be a short dump.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: dabenko on March 24, 2019, 09:19:00 PM
Token dump is just for profit, as a bounty hunter the most important reason why I dump my token when I receive is definitely to make profit and I know am not the only one that has the same mindset
If that us the mindset every bounty hunter has, then the tokens received will continue to dump and you might not see it rise again. It's just good there are exceptions to that, because many are now beginning to realise the potential in some coins.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: ataki on March 24, 2019, 09:35:14 PM
Early bird investors with huge bonuses are the biggest dumpers as they taking the profit. Bounty hunters are here to be blamed. I have faced a situation when the hunters were blamed that the token price crashed and the hunters bounty distribution  was delayed and no rewards was distributed to them at that moment.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: LbtalkL on March 24, 2019, 09:58:41 PM
If an ICO reaches at least softcap or much better hardcap they should have a buyback plan or trading competition, etc. to keep the price, not below ico price bounty allocation is often 1 or just 2% only on ICO Sales right? The project can easily buyback it to bounty hunters if they want to. Why they are not doing this maybe they don't have a plan some are just creating difficult claiming procedures after the bounty looks like they don't want to pay the bounty hunters they want a free promotion.

Early bird investors with huge bonuses are the biggest dumpers as they taking the profit. Bounty hunters are here to be blamed. I have faced a situation when the hunters were blamed that the token price crashed and the hunters bounty distribution  was delayed and no rewards was distributed to them at that moment.

You have a point most of the time investors with huge bonuses they are the one dumping, not the bounty hunters.
I think they should try a different distribution method like distributing first on bounty hunter because bounty allocation is very low, create a buyback program and then distribute to ico investors.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: mrdeposit on March 24, 2019, 10:26:56 PM
all people want to earn some money that's why they sell tokens and it causes the price dump. but if the project is good it will be a short dump.
Is not it unreasonable to sell cheaply to make money? In order to make money in trade, you need to buy from low and sell from high price.
Anyway, if they do not have the strategies to keep the price better, they should stay away.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: jerrison on March 24, 2019, 10:29:08 PM
most ICO are basically considered to raise money with little or no intent of protecting the investors resources and ensure that it becomes as profiting a project for the investor who invested money and the prospective investors too that will consider buying into the project in the longrun


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: CleverOracle on March 24, 2019, 10:59:35 PM
The price dump when it hits exchange and the buyers or investors lost their interest on the coin because the team became inactive of giving updates after the token sale and not following the Roadmap that led to keep delaying all of their plan especially the launch of their working product.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: torrantz on March 24, 2019, 11:07:32 PM
Token dump is just for profit, as a bounty hunter the most important reason why I dump my token when I receive is definitely to make profit and I know am not the only one that has the same mindset
If that us the mindset every bounty hunter has, then the tokens received will continue to dump and you might not see it rise again. It's just good there are exceptions to that, because many are now beginning to realise the potential in some coins.
The token doesn't have a lot of volumes to provide the best liquidity and that should be the main reason. But i should agree if most of the bounty hunters was thinking about that. they will always dump it even it gives them all some dollars.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Jannyh on March 24, 2019, 11:44:49 PM
Well this has become a normal trend in this bearish ecosystem, once a token gets listed after a successful ICO it dumps, one of the reason I think is that most list in very cheap exchanges with less volume and this automatically affect the price of the token because of less demand.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: abstractednerve on March 24, 2019, 11:52:04 PM
It's widely known that the biggest dumpers are presale and private investors who get big discounts in ICOs. In your example, you are talking about one investor who gets a 25% bonus, which is relatively low considering that there are ICOs where early investors can get 50% or higher bonuses. They can easily sell their tokens, get profit and buy again at a much lower price.

Yes, you are absolutely right here. Some people always love to blame bounty hunters or supporters by calling dumpers! They should know the Private and Presale investors are the dumpers, and recently many partners are also being a dumper! Recently I involved with TCAT project where TCAT's partner is dumping the coin price and the TCAT team is buying back those to protect the price! For all of these reasons the token price is dumping and the successful ICO is not doing anything to protect the price!


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: sadmaster on March 24, 2019, 11:57:35 PM
The huge bonuses given by the companies to their presale investors or large holders is. Most of the time pre sale buyers would get about 20% at most more tokens when they bought in the presale. Then they would either sell this once the coin is listed or hold it till it get pumped a little bit then they will dump all their bag of coins.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: kaya11 on March 25, 2019, 12:00:17 AM
In short they are not real dedicated development team but rather thieves. Made easy money out of other peoples' money. This tarnished and drag some good projects along with the bunch of scammers. Now investors are somewhat gone having bad experiences with shit ICO. 


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: hellyah070 on March 25, 2019, 12:42:16 AM
it is wrong to believe that ICOs that have a successful sales,TGE, testnet,mainnet, ETC are been dump by bounty hunters and airdrops owners. whoever come up with that fact got it all wrong.
i strongly believed that TOKENs are been dump by the same investors that gained lots of bonus of their investment should be held responsible. Never and never will you put it on the hunters. it is business people. everyone wants to make money very quick.
My reason below:

A project minted one millions tokens and draws out plans for sales and distribution with this format:
50,000 for bounties and airdrops
700,000 for sales
100,000 for managers, ambassadors, legal team, and the rest.
150,000 for research, contest giveaways and probably burnt the remaining tokens and bla bla bla.
1 token= 0.001eth
minimum investment=0.1    therefore 0.1eth = 100 tokens
this is use case scenario)
ICO sales promises a tangible % of the minimum investment. eg 25% of what u invest) for 1st sales. if you invest, 1ETH, you get, 1000 token Plus 250 tokens= 1250 total.
                                                                                               10% of what you invest for 2nd sales. if you invest 1Eth, you get 1000 tokens plus 100 tokens = 1100 total

For the bounties and airdrops, there is every tendency that the highest earner for a bounty goes home with 2000 while the rest battles with the remaining 48,000 tokens.
there is also a probability that there will be left over at the end of the bounty distribution which the bounty manager sends back to the project owners.

it is very clear that this business is all about the more you invest, the high change of getting more tokens.I  believe that since an investor can spend over 5,6 or more eth to gain huge bonus from his investment.  he wastes no time selling off his goods immediately it hits the market and knowing perfectly well that he is on the profit.
EG
he spend 2 ETH  to get 2500 tokens. (500 tokens are bonus) . The token hits the market at the price of 0.0005eth if we can start from that price.
he choose to sell back 2200 tokens at 0.000987 to get 2.1736ETHEREUM.
He gains 0.1736 from this sales and still a  left over of 300 tokens in his wallet.
There is a probabilty that the price might go up. he might sell if he wishes or he can keep for the long term strategy.

While a bounty hunter that earns an average of 1,200 to 800 tokens manages to sell off at 0.000987 (if he earn 1200) to get 1.184eth which covers stress time, internet bills and miscellaneous stuff.

Also remember that while an investor is free to DUMP off his token and move on to another project, the hunter's token is luck up for months.

SO i believed that tokens are dumped in the market by the same investors once they are sure of profit in order to move to the next ico in the market. Not the bounty hunters or airdrop holders.




I don't think that bounty hunter has something big thing to do about it. It is not enough to say that bounty hunters sell the tokens that's why it dump, well, see the percentage of investment and selling, as well as bounty allocation, the percentage for bounty is too small.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: cahbagus555 on March 25, 2019, 01:34:26 AM
The huge bonuses given by the companies to their presale investors or large holders is. Most of the time pre sale buyers would get about 20% at most more tokens when they bought in the presale.

Its true, many people blame bounty hunters but i think hunters is not main factor why the price drop after listing in exchanger. Pre-Sale investor have huge bonus and discount, i think they just want making quick profits by selling their coin/token


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: maculeth on March 26, 2019, 01:15:59 AM
because all bounty hunters immediately sell all of their tokens together, and what's worse is that after the ico ends, no one buys even though the ico is successful. if the method is considered to cause a large dumb, it is better to pay using USD only for hunter bounties.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: d1ceplayer on March 27, 2019, 01:11:25 PM
In short they are not real dedicated development team but rather thieves. Made easy money out of other peoples' money. This tarnished and drag some good projects along with the bunch of scammers. Now investors are somewhat gone having bad experiences with shit ICO. 
I this case, the project team are not even the problem but the investors that claim to join the community of a particular project and end up dumping the coin once it enters exchange and they see any little profit climb on it but like you still said, I will still say that projects too have their own issue, if the project is a good one and it has a very good product to speak for it.

I believe it won’t become shitcoins easily like that since it is still not every investors that will dump the coin or do so at the same time, so many of these projects team really need to be up and doing if they want the project to be a successful one and not be dumped easily.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: accesovip on March 27, 2019, 01:13:56 PM
I think that most times is just because of the huge discounts given during presale. People can sell their coins once in exchange at ICO price and lower and still earn money, so that the reason why the tokens are dumped IMO.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: bitcoin31 on March 27, 2019, 01:16:22 PM
Of course because of the hunters is one of the cause for the dumping the token even the project is very potential but not all is because of hunters even the investors of thw ICO maybe they sell their coin who purchased more than months ago so they will earn now money.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: bhabygrim on March 27, 2019, 02:07:09 PM
I think it is because of the early investors dumping their token right after it has been listed.
I don't think that there are any other reason or answer to this unless the team are dumping it .
The price drop are only happening because of the lack of demand as you can see once it is listed there is no one that wants to buy them.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Abal Abal on March 27, 2019, 02:15:10 PM
the factor that often causes hunters to throw out tokens that have a successful ICO is the lack of knowledge of the hunters, besides that the reason they throw the token is because the project from the token does not have good progress.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: kawetsriyanto on March 27, 2019, 02:50:20 PM
So far, almost all tokens or coins from crypto will be always dumped after a successful ICO and listed on the certain exchange.
There are some probabilities:
1. Listed on low exchange
2. The strategy of certain people to make it down and collect more tokens
3. Selling out the tokens at a low price because they feel afraid that the token will not be able to grow
4. The team management with bad quality and control to promote more about the tokens.
and there are still many more reasons, moreover, during this bear market.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: bitgolden on March 27, 2019, 03:52:10 PM
because all bounty hunters immediately sell all of their tokens together, and what's worse is that after the ico ends, no one buys even though the ico is successful. if the method is considered to cause a large dumb, it is better to pay using USD only for hunter bounties.
If you look closely at the illustration mate, you will realize that the percentage of token given to the hunters is very little compared to what is being circulated to investors, even if bounty hunters dump their tokens at once, it should not have major effect on the coin. How many coins are even being distributed to them compared to what investors are holding and moreover, they worked for it and if they decide to cash it out, they have no blame because a laborer is worthy of their wages.

If the project team was to pay their staff the amount given to the hunters, are you saying it is justified to say payment of salary will bring about collapse of the company, so all projects should be up and running and stop putting their laziness or lack of further ideas to push the project forward on their workers (bounty hunters).


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: ariyzt on March 27, 2019, 03:57:54 PM
the developer and team can't handle the community
they should give them some benefit for holding the coin/token
many hit and run investor this day, so no wonder why ico can't stay on ico price, most of them down below ico price


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: trash321 on March 27, 2019, 04:05:35 PM
The problem is probably not to sell all tokens at once. It is necessary to leave interest among people. If you are able to keep this interest, then investors will be very happy to see price increases after the tokens reach the stock exchange.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: thesmallgod on March 27, 2019, 04:19:40 PM
Many of the point is true but you also need to know that hunters too contribute immensely to the dumping of token. In fact, there are many hunters that are also investors so the dumping is from both side. Above all from my experience, I have also noticed that some project dev deliberately dump token in order to crash the price. Also rate of dumping can also be influenced by the listing exchange itself. from my own view 95% of token listed on exchange platform such as Latoken always end up hurribly dumped.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Bttzed03 on March 27, 2019, 04:27:15 PM
SO i believed that tokens are dumped in the market by the same investors once they are sure of profit in order to move to the next ico in the market. Not the bounty hunters or airdrop holders.

Many investors and hunters are dumpers, it's just a matter of who were able to sell first. Let us make that clear here. 


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Whosdaddy on March 28, 2019, 11:46:13 AM
I don't think this is a debatable question to ask in this forum because I am very sure we all know the answer to this question.

One of the major cause of coin dumping after successful ICO project is airdrop, a lot of persons are given coins for free for just filling up a form and unlike those that made purchase of this coins, they don't actually know the value of the coin or token and don't care about the rate they dump it in the market since they never bought the coin and any rate they dump the coin on exchange will still yield profit for them.

When a real product based ICO will not bother about dumping as there would be enough investors to keep pumping on the other end. At the same time, a real product based ICO does not need to airdrop tokens but just a well written whitepaper itself more than enough to get supporters on board.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: mattadc on March 28, 2019, 12:33:31 PM
It seems to me that this happens only because of the fact that people are very gregarious effect. Everyone will do it and I will, they will throw off everything and I will fold it out of it and the token will fall to the bottom.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Nivelir on March 28, 2019, 12:48:33 PM
As already mentioned, there are a lot of reasons for falling, as it turns out today, a lot of people believe that cryptocurrency is probably one of the most volatile areas. I think that investors are now of little interest in holding tokens.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: zhekinsp on March 28, 2019, 12:51:59 PM
When a token really don't have much value as which is sold on the ICO sale will cause the tokens to be dumped most of the time.

Many people investing on the ICOs for short term profits so price will get dump when token is available on exchanges.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Robotbitcoin22 on March 28, 2019, 12:59:56 PM
The current investor model is the most important advantage quickly and they are not too interested in a projeck later, because of course they will quickly discard the token when they have already made a profit and are looking for a new one.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: sadewa69 on March 28, 2019, 01:04:03 PM
As already mentioned, there are a lot of reasons for falling, as it turns out today, a lot of people believe that cryptocurrency is probably one of the most volatile areas. I think that investors are now of little interest in holding tokens.
indeed like this the crypto market conditions, we cannot expect a stable market, many people are attracted to crypto because of the rapid market movements, which makes people benefit. but for today I think the market is still safe, even though there is a decline but the last few weeks of price movements in the market are not so far away.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: beerlover on March 28, 2019, 05:15:52 PM
Many of the point is true but you also need to know that hunters too contribute immensely to the dumping of token. In fact, there are many hunters that are also investors so the dumping is from both side. Above all from my experience, I have also noticed that some project dev deliberately dump token in order to crash the price. Also rate of dumping can also be influenced by the listing exchange itself. from my own view 95% of token listed on exchange platform such as Latoken always end up hurribly dumped.
I have always suspected project developers too, just that you were faster in raising the accusation than me and if we look at the developers, they create the coin which means they will automatically have the larger part of the coin, just that they might not display this for public consumption which they end up dumping first ahead of any major investor that might wish to dump it too, but I don’t know if I am making any sense in this, don’t we think this act also might be good to control the rate of dumping from users, this might make the investor decide to hold the coin for long since the price they crashed it to might not be the desired one which will give such project more time to develop their project.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: ricardobs on March 28, 2019, 09:54:18 PM
A lot of factors can cause a token to drop in price drastically, but this is the major reason why we see a dump in the price of crypto coin that hits the exchange, this exchanges most of the time make use of airdrop to get users into their platforms which is one major problem in the crypto space because this users end up dumping their coin for penny since they don't know the worth of the coin they are holding, I think it's best to carry out bounty instead of just airdrop because bounty needs one to commit his/her time.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Goodvalony on March 29, 2019, 02:25:58 PM
It's widely known that the biggest dumpers are presale and private investors who get big discounts in ICOs. In your example, you are talking about one investor who gets a 25% bonus, which is relatively low considering that there are ICOs where early investors can get 50% or higher bonuses. They can easily sell their tokens, get profit and buy again at a much lower price.

thanks brother. you got my point. that exactly what i am trying to say. yet project owners will blame it on hunters.  things need to change.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Goodvalony on March 29, 2019, 02:32:55 PM
The major causes after successful ICO is because of the investors that are invest huge amount during the pre sale and during ICO. After they have make their money and  profit they have in focus they decided to dumped the token.

Discounts are evil. Bounty in tokens is evil as well. Both of them lead to a strong dump after the listing at any exchange. To prevent it founders should spend a lot of money to buy back tokens at the exchange with a high price. But there are too few teams which are able to do that.

this can only happen if project owners really trust their project and wants to see it develop. everybody is after the money now.  some owners never really care much about the project they are working on. they all want to make gains and dump the project for another one. i think it acceptable for people that feel ICO should be abolished for one to focus on the available projects.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: KingDome on March 29, 2019, 02:34:04 PM
Most of the tokens were oftentimes dumped after the ICO because of the people want to cash out their bounties or the investors just simplly not believe the project.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Chika08 on March 29, 2019, 02:49:54 PM
I think this are done by the project, they list below the ico price. One thing I understand is that many of this projects fail to even reach its soft cap and that's more reasons why they listed below its ico price.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: playboy654 on March 29, 2019, 03:30:42 PM
If anyone says about the ICO investment it will be definitely not going to perform good in the future so the existing tokens are to be not valuable right now so the trend of ICO investment was already been expired so we have to move on and need to change our field of investment


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: aprilnot on March 29, 2019, 03:37:11 PM
It's widely known that the biggest dumpers are presale and private investors who get big discounts in ICOs. In your example, you are talking about one investor who gets a 25% bonus, which is relatively low considering that there are ICOs where early investors can get 50% or higher bonuses. They can easily sell their tokens, get profit and buy again at a much lower price.
yes you are right, those who get big bonuses when presales receive special treatment such as lock tokens or whatever makes them unable to sell tokens when listing. this might be a little cruel but that might help prevent dumped


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Mrsparks on March 29, 2019, 03:42:09 PM
In my opinion sometimes the developers are the ones responsible for this mayhem.. I have seen situation where they  keep manipulating prices after listing only to dump on investors.. The reward and incentivize disbursements mechanisms is also a factor.. Giving too much bonus to private investors and releasing all this bonuses to the market all at once causes mayhem to the value of most cryptocurrency


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: StatesManG on March 29, 2019, 03:42:55 PM
It's simple,  projects lists below ico price, not Enough liquidity, people dump. But most of all, many of this projects never merits softcap and lied to people so there was no way they could list at its ico price


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: pamsugas on March 29, 2019, 03:49:26 PM
there are many possibilities for ico success but after entering the market the price really falls.
I think because :
1. Large investors only seek profit and throw it away
2. These coin products are bad so investors are not interested and move to other projects.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: hotimbineh on March 29, 2019, 04:18:10 PM
being an investor needs to be careful and be able to take a position because of the wrong steps so that the losses they get because of it; they threw it away and tried to find a better ICO to cover their losses


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Classica35 on March 29, 2019, 09:50:21 PM
Those who have the ability to acquire a lot of tokens, known as whales can bring about a plunge in the price of a coin.
I was surprised when I discovered that, they can intentionally dump part of what they have at very low price and later sect to buy back again.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: IVEXO on March 29, 2019, 10:47:38 PM
It is normal for a token to dump after a successful ico
Everyone wants to dump for an initial profit

And it is bound for every legit project to survive the dump and be valuable to holders


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Indrawan77 on March 29, 2019, 11:03:56 PM
I agree that investors is the big actor behind the dumping, the reason is simple it's for profit when the investors see that the coin hit exchanges and reach the price target then they will sell it, most of them invest for profit not because the project is promising, bounty hunters and airdrop holder sometimes also take part in the dumping but the percentage is small


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: 949miner on March 29, 2019, 11:12:35 PM
As the nature of the crypto ecosystem remains a decentralized system, dumping of cryptocurrency will always exist in the crypto market. Since the market value of cryptocurrencies depend on the principle of demand and supply, when investors or bounty hunters get a lot of a particular token, its very likely that the supply will be more than the demand causing people with majority of the tokens to drop their price just to sell their tokens. Too much distribution of tokens to investors or bounty hunters is the main cause of dumping after a successful ICO.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: AtlantaFive on March 29, 2019, 11:25:00 PM
There are several factors affecting the price of the token after ico. There are a lot of people that will sell for a small profit because they think small profit is good then they can join another ico. Another is bounty hunter dumping below ico price. Who will not sell if you got tokens from bounty. It does not matter if the price is below ico as long hunters got decent amount of it. Product is not yet ready or investor think they had invest in bad project.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Gabali126 on March 29, 2019, 11:25:22 PM
The general cause of dumping is as a result of fear as most people are never too certain of the real intentions of the project owners. As such, they easily sell to play safe.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: StreakW on March 29, 2019, 11:25:37 PM
Yes i agree with you, that tokens are dumped in the market by the investors not bounty hunter, alokasion for bounty only 1-3% and will be split with many participant, but for investors on average 40-60, that's include bonus. So who controls the market are investors, and bounty hunter only follow the market condition


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: pieppiep on March 30, 2019, 07:20:13 AM
As the nature of the crypto ecosystem remains a decentralized system, dumping of cryptocurrency will always exist in the crypto market. Since the market value of cryptocurrencies depend on the principle of demand and supply, when investors or bounty hunters get a lot of a particular token, its very likely that the supply will be more than the demand causing people with majority of the tokens to drop their price just to sell their tokens. Too much distribution of tokens to investors or bounty hunters is the main cause of dumping after a successful ICO.
indeed it is natural that many ico when entering at the exchange price fall and become very cheap because usually it happens because of the influence of the airdrop and bounty campaign distribution which can make the price of ico in the exchange fall, and even many investors panic and sell its assets at low prices.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: H0USE on March 30, 2019, 07:25:47 AM
The general cause of dumping is as a result of fear as most people are never too certain of the real intentions of the project owners. As such, they easily sell to play safe.
No i dont think so, it can be seen that the ICO after success will have a very good price, so the whales will surely have huge profit from the project, and of course they surely will sell to get profit, and because they are whales, just a small dump can effect entire price of the ICO's token.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: various on March 30, 2019, 07:29:19 AM
Yes, you are right, it is very difficult for bounty hunter and airdrop participants to reduce the price. Because they are usually given 0.1%. The coins, which had a lower value, could not completed enough funds.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: trauchot on March 30, 2019, 07:35:22 AM
Many people say that this is only because of the bounty hunters, but its wrong, investors also sell their tokens immediately and kill the price, also, very often companies selling big amount of their tokens when their token is listed at exchange, and of course bounty hunters also participating in it.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: bittraffic on March 30, 2019, 07:37:02 AM
The general cause of dumping is as a result of fear as most people are never too certain of the real intentions of the project owners. As such, they easily sell to play safe.
No i dont think so, it can be seen that the ICO after success will have a very good price, so the whales will surely have huge profit from the project, and of course they surely will sell to get profit, and because they are whales, just a small dump can effect entire price of the ICO's token.

Its actually he the HOUSE that dumps the first, they know exactly when the token is going to be listed and they can pause the bounty from receiving the tokens. Investors are also the team most of the time, I think more bonuses for them. ITs kind of a pre-pre -free sale.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: cizatext on March 30, 2019, 07:38:51 AM
Very accurate analysis most time the bounty hunters are always blame for dumping of coin after listing but the most dumpers are those who invested heavy amount of capital in the project during ICO and have earn huge bonuses. Because they are investors whose aims is to make profits and always on the look out for More profitable project so they don't have the patience of waiting for long before selling off.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: semobo on March 30, 2019, 08:01:28 AM
Very accurate analysis most time the bounty hunters are always blame for dumping of coin after listing but the most dumpers are those who invested heavy amount of capital in the project during ICO and have earn huge bonuses. Because they are investors whose aims is to make profits and always on the look out for More profitable project so they don't have the patience of waiting for long before selling off.
Just for short term profits many people were coming to invest on the new ICO projects so they are getting dumping it but bounty hunters were suffering to get their rewards because of this issue.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: whiteblue on March 30, 2019, 08:08:31 AM
Yes, you are right, it is very difficult for bounty hunter and airdrop participants to reduce the price. Because they are usually given 0.1%. The coins, which had a lower value, could not completed enough funds.
indeed the allocation for airdrop or bounty campaign participants is very small but you have to know, not always that makes them cryptocurrency prices fall, sometimes the price of the ico on the exchange falls because the ico project is not well developed and the platform becomes useless.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: dentolas on March 30, 2019, 08:26:42 AM
Yes you are on point i will add one two more points in your topic, one is that from last one year what ever the tokenomics or even the icos without bounty the prices have still dumped so i guess its about overall market volume and demand in the market secondly in last one year bounty hunters have not received any decent reward so question of dumping in big numbers just gets diluted. I think this question and debate will continue till there is ico and bounty.


Well, you guys are right on the spot, nevertheless I feel that this old discussion doesn't end up with one side to blame... probably both early investors and bounty hunters are to blame for the dumping...
Early investors/private sale, etc recieve huge bonuses, sometimes 50-60% of ICO price, so, even if the token reaches the market at a relative low price, most of times they can still make money... as the ICO market degradated and the scam/failure risk got higher, it is understandable that the main ICO investors would get happy with 20-30% immediate profit and then  jump to the next ICO. For the same reason, a lot of hunters try to sell their small part because they have seen their work turn into worthless too many times...
The problem with ICOs is mainly the lack of trust and the lack of experience from most teams


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: cribusen on March 30, 2019, 10:04:53 AM
The lack of advertisement after a successful TGE, because investors are waiting and nobody else getting news about this project. The second reason are bounty hunters, that should be better paid in stable coins or in ETH/BTC to prevent big dumps.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Nwankwobtt on March 30, 2019, 10:12:20 AM
It Is simple, after a successful ICO, investors(private and presale) who got huge bonus, airdroppers who got free tokens and bounty hunters are all expecting to sell their tokens upon listing. Including team members with unlocked tokens. So it's only usually to witness dump after ICO sales and exchange listing


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Jackrodwell on March 30, 2019, 10:28:45 AM
I've always been aware that bounty hunters are not to blame for a dump. I also believe that the investors who bought their tokens with a big bonus are the people who dump the token for provit.
I support your point on this issue of bounty hunters dump after ICO, is actually wrong rather the blame should go those investors who invest heavily on project for project and then go back to dump,what is coming to bounty hunters is very minimal in most cases.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: naruto7676 on March 30, 2019, 10:46:52 AM
Even if ICO is successful with low-token exchangers ililist of ico teams it is likely that the outcome is dump tokens, not bounty hunters and cause dump tokens but investors who sell tokens immediately because they are the first to receive of the tokens and the late bounty hunters. Another reason is the cheap exchanges that I had earlier said earlier.That's so for the ICO to get the top 20 oh top 10 exchangers they list.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Annalise24 on March 30, 2019, 11:19:13 AM
You are absolutely correct. Most investors are in cryptosphere for the money and ico projects are not helping out .
They keep giving outrageous amount of discount to investors.
I am not saying that giving discounts is not good but it should be moderate.
I have seen an ico that gave over 50% discount and they still expect that the coin is not dumped on listing to an exchange.
Again people dump when they do not believe in the project.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Ifemini on March 30, 2019, 12:24:21 PM
I feel it is due to the unnecessary hypes and praises sang during pre sale
Which attracted a lot of investors (profit oriented type) to the project

So once it lists, both airdrops, bounty and pre sale and crowdsale token holders wants to bag the profit

Well; the wise always buy the dip


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: ccsang on April 06, 2019, 08:52:49 AM
Yes, you are right, it is very difficult for bounty hunter and airdrop participants to reduce the price. Because they are usually given 0.1%. The coins, which had a lower value, could not completed enough funds.
indeed the allocation for airdrop or bounty campaign participants is very small but you have to know, not always that makes them cryptocurrency prices fall, sometimes the price of the ico on the exchange falls because the ico project is not well developed and the platform becomes useless.
Definitely agree your view, people always blamed bounty hunter dump the price and push responsibility to us, actually bounty allocation is between 0.5%~5%, it's impossible affected the price. Based on my past experience, most of the successful ICO (raised more than 20M), it's must dump below ICO price, some project current price is reduce 100x than their ICO price, I think main reason is investor dump the price and buy back at lower price, other is project team exchange token to fiat money.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: innocentone on April 06, 2019, 09:44:19 AM
Most of the time, the reason why the tokens become dumped is because of bounty hunter, that get an enormous percentage of token and those investors who get big amounts of bonus. Well, if the project is good, the dump will vanished in no time.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 06, 2019, 09:46:09 AM
Yes i agree with you, that tokens are dumped in the market by the investors not bounty hunter, alokasion for bounty only 1-3% and will be split with many participant, but for investors on average 40-60, that's include bonus. So who controls the market are investors, and bounty hunter only follow the market condition

Yes, you are right. If there is no rule for the investor to sell all of their tokens, the price will not get dump too hard, and even if bounty hunters sell all of their tokens, they cannot make the price getting down too deep. But the truth is bounty hunters sell their token because they want to convert the token to ethereum and then sell the ethereum to make money or they will save the ethereum as their investment.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: r_delossa on April 06, 2019, 10:36:28 AM
There are thousands of reasons why the token is dumped after its first listing, but the main reason in my opinion is the lack of advertisement after the ICO is over. There are simply no more people left that want to buy their tokens.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: fosco333 on April 06, 2019, 03:33:14 PM
Yeah, the team usually say the dump is because many hunters sell their token on the exchange.
But they don't realize that if investors find more attracting ICO, they can dump the token too.
The allocation of bounty reward usually not too much nowadays, so it shouldn't make the price dump.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Golstrim on April 06, 2019, 03:42:17 PM
Today IEO is trendy and after this process exchange token is gonna to be dumped. You know, after kucoin IEO exchange token is dumped like 50%!!! Can't believe! It is a lottery with high fee to pay!


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: boty on April 06, 2019, 03:42:54 PM
There are thousands of reasons why the token is dumped after its first listing, but the main reason in my opinion is the lack of advertisement after the ICO is over. There are simply no more people left that want to buy their tokens.
indeed the marketing strategy can be the most important thing to be able to make the price of the cryptocurrency rise but usually when the token has been entered in the exchange place is a lack of attention from the developer so that the price cannot rise.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Pasutinmeur on April 06, 2019, 03:47:53 PM
There are thousands of reasons why the token is dumped after its first listing, but the main reason in my opinion is the lack of advertisement after the ICO is over. There are simply no more people left that want to buy their tokens.
indeed the marketing strategy can be the most important thing to be able to make the price of the cryptocurrency rise but usually when the token has been entered in the exchange place is a lack of attention from the developer so that the price cannot rise.
Marketing is not only the main purpose why that ice gets dumped but marketing needs solid support from any other factor like the developer itself or the product. All of those factors will determine how much the demand that will be got by that ico. this should be the main reason for the dumped coin after ico


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: crispyfry211 on April 06, 2019, 04:05:25 PM
The most common reason for the fall of the token price list to exchangers is the sale of token holders immediately, and yet another exchangers who are less known or exchangers with low volumes when they are in tokens. Therefore, ICO and its exchangers will be in the top 20 exchangers to ensure that investors and token holders to have profits.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: AgentZero23 on April 06, 2019, 04:38:31 PM
The initial dumped of tokens on exchanges are from investors in Pre-sale and TGE. It's normal as almost all investors want to have profit that's why they invest. Some investors are not for long-term and we can't blame them as we are different financially. As for the project it is bad however, pump and dump is normal as it is part of liquidity.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: cryptowolfsu on April 06, 2019, 11:45:46 PM


Not all the hunters are business oriented and many of them participating in many projects at the same time
and when they get rewarded they just dump their coins and do not checking how perspective that coins is.
Of course not all of them dump, there are those who are following the project and  even invest in it if they
find it high potential. Early investors are taking the profit and dump their coins as well, that is not questionable.



Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: mrdeposit on April 07, 2019, 12:06:04 AM
Today IEO is trendy and after this process exchange token is gonna to be dumped. You know, after kucoin IEO exchange token is dumped like 50%!!! Can't believe! It is a lottery with high fee to pay!
But I did not see it in binance. So, a big drop in bnb after IEO.
If the IEO has so much influence on the kucoin, it should continue without stopping.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Enzo05 on April 07, 2019, 12:12:54 AM
That's true because if you are going to look the percentage of token bounty allocations you'll see that the percentage of it is not so high compared to allocation for public sale .


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: 0t3p0t on April 07, 2019, 12:30:50 AM
It's widely known that the biggest dumpers are presale and private investors who get big discounts in ICOs. In your example, you are talking about one investor who gets a 25% bonus, which is relatively low considering that there are ICOs where early investors can get 50% or higher bonuses. They can easily sell their tokens, get profit and buy again at a much lower price.
I agree. Some people has false accusations with bounty hunters who really are dumpers but the fact is presale and private investors are the one who dump more. Bounty hunters only get small amount of tokens from bounty programs without bonuses so if hunters dump tokens there is no massive impact in the market. Plummet is caused by massive dump from big players like what whales does to gain huge profit.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Litzki1990 on April 07, 2019, 01:10:40 AM
I think the causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO is that those investors who are invest in private sale and pre sale because they got a huge of bunoses and when the token is already listed they quickly trade their token because they have already profit.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: BennyK on April 07, 2019, 01:45:30 AM
One of the major factors which lead to the dumping of a coin is FUD, where investors become afraid for holding the coin due to the panic sale that may follow. Also, investors and holders may prefer to sell off the coin for other valuable coin when the coin in possession do not prove any capabilities of rising in the future especially a coin with no working product and run by inexperienced team.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: der_troll on April 07, 2019, 10:56:23 AM
The lack of attention after the token sale ends. It usually takes several months after the TGE to list a coin on an exchange. Thats why IEOs are so successful at the moment, because you are buying a pack of coins and within several days they are already tradable on a good exchange.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: desticy on April 15, 2019, 12:35:34 PM
A lot depends on what trend prevails in the market, if this is a bear market, then most often investors themselves tend to sell coins as soon as possible. If they are bullish, they will be more interested in the hold, because they have invested to get even more profit, and this is quite logical in the bull market.



Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: florac9 on April 15, 2019, 12:44:45 PM
Smells like presales and private investors are to be blame here? When to avoid dumping its better if developers start lowering profits for presales and that's one part ,about bounty hunters its a must that they will dump no matter what


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: attech21 on April 15, 2019, 02:30:24 PM
Listing om a cheap Exchanges that is not good and the volume of those tokens becomes lower.And one reason ia the low prices starting ln exchangers so panic selling comes out when investors feel the price wi going down and they dont want to losse so they sell tokens immediately same as some bounty hunters but i think bounty hunters has given a token after the distribution of tokens on investors so investors has more time to dump p tokens than bounty hunters.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Pamadar on April 15, 2019, 02:39:57 PM
A lot depends on what trend prevails in the market, if this is a bear market, then most often investors themselves tend to sell coins as soon as possible. If they are bullish, they will be more interested in the hold, because they have invested to get even more profit, and this is quite logical in the bull market.


As early investors always aiming for good returned, they see that there's no point of holding since bearish is dominating no sense if they will keep the tokens and ends up losing after hunters sell out so they will be the one to sell first before bounty git their chance to sell with much higher value, the
project without good support will collapse and continue to fall.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Sithara007 on April 15, 2019, 02:44:42 PM
The most valuable reason for a big dump after the first listing on exchanges are the bounty hunters. Due to the current market situation they are trying to earn at least something after any bounty to stay in crypto sphere.

This is the most common myth regarding to the ICOs. Bounty hunters get a pool of around 1% to 2% of the total tokens (sometimes even lower). How they are going to crash the prices with this many tokens? In most of the cases I have studied, the prices crashed after the promoters dumped all or a part of their tokens. It is unfair to blame the poor bounty hunters for everything.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Adriano2010 on April 15, 2019, 08:52:54 PM
Well most of investors start sell their tokens once get exchange, i think they think if the project will not grow to get as fast as they can bitcoin ot other top coins, maybe they only hurry when they buy coins from ICO and who know all their reason.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: macshad on April 16, 2019, 07:57:01 AM
Everyone wants to make as much profit as possible and those with the larger tokens , meaning investors and presale buys mostly want to get rid of their tokens to make as much profit as soon as possible and another factor is listing on low volume exchange, nothing dumps token faster than listing on a low volume exchange because everyone knows it would dump and everyone is willing to selling asap


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: BlueStackz on April 17, 2019, 06:04:47 PM
Everyone wants to make as much profit as possible and those with the larger tokens , meaning investors and presale buys mostly want to get rid of their tokens to make as much profit as soon as possible and another factor is listing on low volume exchange, nothing dumps token faster than listing on a low volume exchange because everyone knows it would dump and everyone is willing to selling asap
We can as well attribute the failure of these tokens to the project management team, they gave chance to dumping by listing on low quality exchanges because they are cheap, which interprets to people that they always go after low quality things.

 The way these people present themselves is the way their investors will also move along with them, so I wouldn’t blame investors that are dumping on them because the projects has not really proved itself to be worthy of our wait. Until projects start proving their quality than the profit hyping they use in luring investors to put in their money.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: OluwaTosin10 on April 17, 2019, 06:10:13 PM
I think a token dump is inevitable and cannot be avoided
Once the hype is gone and has traded consistently at a huge price

Whale Token holders has dumped at high prices; so they begin to post ridiculous low offers
To urgent naive hodlers who panics at the slightest fuds


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: MUG1WARA on April 17, 2019, 07:36:35 PM
logically indeed what causes dumps in the market is investors who invest in large amounts because they have very many tokens+bonuses
In my opinion, bounty hunter is not too influential on dumping because each participant only gets few tokens and not all bounty hunters will sell it


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: entebah on April 17, 2019, 11:30:44 PM
logically indeed what causes dumps in the market is investors who invest in large amounts because they have very many tokens+bonuses
In my opinion, bounty hunter is not too influential on dumping because each participant only gets few tokens and not all bounty hunters will sell it
Yes, and there is also no seriousness from the project developer to support prices, so prices fall and far from ICO prices, this is the case for most ICO now, they deliberately reduce prices, because they do not want to lose money by raising prices.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: halpi on April 18, 2019, 12:18:19 AM
for me, tokens are dumped after good funding in several cases:
1) bad vision, really weak idea that could not be realized
2) poor economic model. too many tokens were put in bounty


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: coin-investor on April 18, 2019, 12:43:56 AM
In short, everyone is just chasing for the profit and don't want to miss the train of dumping.
That really is the case and I've seen it happens on so many ICO, but it's still a gamble for every holder of the coin because some ICO turns out to be a scam and some ICO failed to list their coin in the market and some are paused there's really no guaranty investing in ICO.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: fuer44 on April 18, 2019, 01:10:06 AM
because the bounty participants will quickly sell everything, investors will not risk the fall of prices after the success of ico when released to the market exchange, so they also sell it. that's what makes tokens fall more and more because no one buys anymore.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: princeyeboah on April 18, 2019, 02:09:24 AM
One of the main reasons behind the drop in ICO price after listing is that most of the projects get shifted attention from advertisement or promotion of the coin after a successful ICO. These projects focus only on the platform and product development neglecting awareness creation. When this happens, there are no new investors joining to raise the buy orders - only old investors who are either holding or selling.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: shoreno on April 18, 2019, 02:29:00 AM
One of the main reasons behind the drop in ICO price after listing is that most of the projects get shifted attention from advertisement or promotion of the coin after a successful ICO. These projects focus only on the platform and product development neglecting awareness creation. When this happens, there are no new investors joining to raise the buy orders - only old investors who are either holding or selling.

thats good if the teams will foccus on advertisement or promotion because this can give awareness to the public . they might invest and this result for the value of the ico coins to grow  .  main reason why ico drop is because bounty hunter and investors/hodlers sell thier shares for a quick profit  .they might be selling because they badly need the cash for spending and they dont care if this would cause a dip .


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: VanDeinsberg12 on April 18, 2019, 03:41:22 AM
because the bounty participants will quickly sell everything, investors will not risk the fall of prices after the success of ico when released to the market exchange, so they also sell it. that's what makes tokens fall more and more because no one buys anymore.
You can't blame the bounty hunters for that, the developers and investors were having their role too. If they developer can't provide a good market and that token will get less liquidity and that means the token can fall instantly


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: karagun125 on April 18, 2019, 03:46:58 AM
Many says that the reason behind prices dumped is because the bounty hunters sells right away after the rewards are given. But i think this is wrong since the total allocation for the bounty hunters are just few percentage of the tokens, the real reason is the investors who get selling right away their stuffs.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Johnzky on April 18, 2019, 03:51:55 AM
In short, everyone is just chasing for the profit and don't want to miss the train of dumping.
Exactly all of them don’t really trust the project and never care about the future of the coin instead all they want is to take the pot and go away to find another one,this is what it cost for them isn’t it stupid?


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: QueenW on April 18, 2019, 04:09:40 AM
I think the main reason is that projects offer too much bonuses for early buyers. And of course, the situation in the market is very unfavorable.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: aditasetia123 on April 18, 2019, 04:23:42 AM
In short, everyone is just chasing for the profit and don't want to miss the train of dumping.
Exactly all of them don’t really trust the project and never care about the future of the coin instead all they want is to take the pot and go away to find another one,this is what it cost for them isn’t it stupid?
i think investor type of this moment only speculators.they trying to earn profit from ico by participating in private sale stages and then hit run after its token listing in market.true investors has less amount in any projects now.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: reynald70 on April 18, 2019, 05:37:37 AM
I think the main reason is that projects offer too much bonuses for early buyers. And of course, the situation in the market is very unfavorable.
True, at every ICO it always offers a very large bonus for the first buyer, so this bonus causes the price to go down, and also the Bounty participants who rush to sell their tokens.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: upsidedown75 on April 18, 2019, 07:47:10 PM
I think the main reason is that projects offer too much bonuses for early buyers. And of course, the situation in the market is very unfavorable.
True, at every ICO it always offers a very large bonus for the first buyer, so this bonus causes the price to go down, and also the Bounty participants who rush to sell their tokens.
Too much of empty promises by these projects are the major problems, these empty promises pushes the investor to buy a large some of their token and when they finally see that the project does not really have much future prospect later on, they dump it immediately they enter exchange to save their investment.

Another reason why many people dump these projects is because they were never interested in the project’s products and services. Their community has always been after the profit right from presale and once they get that opportunity to see at least 10% of their investment, which bank would not have given them, they dump the coin and move on to other ones.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: powerman24 on April 18, 2019, 11:43:03 PM
Very often the early bird investors who bought their coins with big discounts dump their coins when listed on the exchange. These days the listing is very often prolonged because of the market situation and many investors are not patient enough. This is true for bounty hunters as well.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Goodvalony on April 19, 2019, 01:19:57 AM
 but the fact remains that the bigest dumpers are the early investors. no wonder some project introduces buy back clauses because they know some people will definitely dump hard. while believers hold m investors dumps. they believe it is a market strategy.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Ailmand on April 19, 2019, 01:36:59 AM
Developers and other investors put the blame on bounty participants without even acknowledging the highest bouty pool just rangest between .5-5% of the supply. Early and pre-sale investors get the biggest discount during the ICO and most likely they are the whales of a new ICO. That is why it would only be wise for future developers out there to lock tokens for early adaptors.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: efrenbilantok on April 19, 2019, 01:57:02 AM
OP you made a great point, mostly the whales of ICO's are the ones who are responsible for the massive dump and that's true, but as you can see with the bounty hunters it also adds up to the dump that has been done by the investors for quick profits. By that so, anyone involved in the project mostly is the cause of dump so we go no pointing to each other.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Burogh on April 19, 2019, 02:33:35 AM
OP you made a great point, mostly the whales of ICO's are the ones who are responsible for the massive dump and that's true, but as you can see with the bounty hunters it also adds up to the dump that has been done by the investors for quick profits. By that so, anyone involved in the project mostly is the cause of dump so we go no pointing to each other.

I think its the only factor. Many factor why the price of token drop after first listing in exchanger. Beside whales dump the token after receiving big bonus, it could be hunters dump the token after receiving the reward. I think its free market and if the project good, the price will recover and will be profitable in the future


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: DainSLane on April 19, 2019, 02:39:07 AM
The causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO is those who invest in the private sale because they earn a lot of bunoses at that time and then after listing they will sell their token because they have more gain from their bunoses from ICOs.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: michellee on April 19, 2019, 04:00:43 AM
The causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO is those who invest in the private sale because they earn a lot of bunoses at that time and then after listing they will sell their token because they have more gain from their bunoses from ICOs.

Besides that, they don't think about the long-term of the project, and they only think about getting the profit in the short-term. I think that is not good for the project to get this experience but we cannot prevent from what they will do later and all the teams of the project can do is still survive in the hardest situations. I am sure that if the project is very good, they will survive and they will exist in a long time, and the project can show proof to the public.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: patz22 on April 19, 2019, 04:59:15 AM
It is always that hunters are dumping tokens/coins. Sometimes, it is the investors who created this dump so that they can bag more. Me personally given a lot of capital and I havent got a lot on sale I would probably dump some then buy back so I could acquire more as long as the project is promising I would still get a lot from it. Yes, there are other factors that may affect price decrease and it seems like most of it are listed here on this post.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Sellman on April 19, 2019, 05:06:47 AM
There are some different groups of people who dumped their tokens after sucessful ICOs:
- Developers: who raised huge money to make their fortune, then they decide to abandon projects and enjoy rest of their lives.
- Bounty hunters: who usually don't have plans to hold their free tokens for too long.
- Investors: who invest in ICOs at high price, want to take losses at their acceptable levels.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: emmybd on April 19, 2019, 05:25:00 AM
Many people have been blaming bounty hunters for the dumping after the ICO. What would bounty hunters would do they don't have any income in the bearish market, so they have been selling whatever amount they get.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: steveabrahams on April 19, 2019, 05:41:53 AM
~slip~
Also remember that while an investor is free to DUMP off his token and move on to another project, the hunter's token is luck up for months.

SO i believed that tokens are dumped in the market by the same investors once they are sure of profit in order to move to the next ico in the market. Not the bounty hunters or airdrop holders.

You have a good point actually, i always think it's because of bounty hunters but not anymore right now. It makes sense actually, investors sell some of their coins to get fast profit and when the price fall, bounty hunter also sell their coins, that's why the price become more fall.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: Nivelir on April 19, 2019, 05:50:28 AM
The reasons, as always, are a huge amount, and here greediness always comes first, which today is of great importance for our entire cryptocurrency world, which now has great significance.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: VanDeinsberg12 on April 19, 2019, 07:17:32 AM
Since 2018, ico has been dumped. Investors receive a large number of tokens and sell it. I often redeem tokens when prices fall deeply
When there was enough liquidity in the market and that can save the price of the token. Remember an instant dump can happen when there was no a lot of demand to buy. This will create a big spread between the sell order and buy order.


Title: Re: What causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO.
Post by: radjie on May 09, 2019, 11:26:11 PM
The causes tokens been dumped after a successful ICO is those who invest in the private sale because they earn a lot of bunoses at that time and then after listing they will sell their token because they have more gain from their bunoses from ICOs.

Besides that, they don't think about the long-term of the project, and they only think about getting the profit in the short-term. I think that is not good for the project to get this experience but we cannot prevent from what they will do later and all the teams of the project can do is still survive in the hardest situations. I am sure that if the project is very good, they will survive and they will exist in a long time, and the project can show proof to the public.

most of them only expect quick profits when the tokens increase, they worry that the project will not last long. but if the project has good potential for the future, of course they have a strong team that can continue to develop the projects they have worked on and be able to invite more investors to be able to invest in them so that it can affect the market price value of the tokens it has launched