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For bitcointalk.org's 10^th anniversary later this year, I was thinking that it might be cool to produce a limited run of 50-300 coins and give them out (maybe all-expenses-paid or maybe at cost) to users who meet some to-be-determined criteria. I'm not a collector, though, so I'm not knowledgeable about this stuff.

 - Does this sound like a good idea?
 - What features would make the coin especially interesting?
 - What's the best way to get a coin like this made?

This would be very cool, to think there's almost been 10 years,hah.

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Re: features that's a tough one.. But we have A LOT of creative people here so perhaps have users come up with a design and then we take a vote on it? That would be nice.

You also have a lot of makers here who I'm certain would help out with getting it minted and delivered (if they have the time).

Sweet initiative theymos!

I would love to see a collectible token commemorating bitcointalk.org's 10 year anniversary.   There are many users in the collectibles section which design and produce coins/holograms and I am sure many of them would be excited at the prospect of designing and minting this coin.  Maybe put it out t a request for proposals and allow forum members to help choose the final design?

Yes, I like the idea. As Minerjones stated there is already a Bitcointalk coin but I that one was unofficial. I'd love to see an official anniversary coin.


Preferably a .999 silver coin. It would be cool if it came with a 1 BTC denomination (unloaded ofcourse).


How about organizing a community design contest? There are plenty of coin makers in the Collectibles section that can point you toward a good mint once the design is finalized.

Random load.
You don't know before you have peeled it.

Maybe run a competition:
Winners of collectible auctions get one point. You need a point to get a coin.

I wouldn't worry about loading it at all. If its just supposed to be a commemorative coin, just have a design made and voted on or whatever you end up wanting to do, then find someone to mint them for you. Depending on the metal you want to use, and the size, and the quantity you want to produce, I can point you in the direction of a handful of mints.

Part of what makes Bitcoin collectible's outrageous premium is the hassle that is funding each coin. If you aren't looking to make money on the venture, I'd probably recommend against going through the headache.

Sounds like a real awesome idea, honestly. I'm hoping that those lucky enough to receive them won't just pass them on for a quick cash in. Depending on the criteria I think this could be a good way of rewarding those that have contributed to the forum. As well as showing a little appreciation. I'm just wondering whether you need some help with determining criteria?

Features: Honestly, it would be awesome to make the coins somewhat unique to the person receiving them. So, instead of preloading it with Bitcoin I would suggest another thing such as stating why they've received it. This makes it a little more personal, and will increase the chance that these aren't just auctioned off to the highest bidder. So, for example if you were to reward someone who found a major exploit in the forum, and kept it all under wraps, and told you as soon as possible then I would consider that pretty integral to the forum, and you could print something like "Contribution to forum security". Probably a poor example  as I don't have the time right now to think of anything more creative, but you get the idea. The coin itself doesn't have to be designed uniquely, but could have a unique sticker depending on the person who is receiving it. I'm hoping these coins are going to go to those that have shown great contribution to the forum, and not just Bitcoin.

An anniversary coin should have a message and be something people WANT to hold not only long term but as a tactile item.
There are a number of very good coin designers out there. Don't fall into the trap and make something cheap and derivative.

Just look at CI's halving 2016 coin. Elegant design, simple and right on point. His 10th Anni coin was in a similar vein.
You have Cryptolators inspired designs and Natty with his beautiful Elutheria and Samsara designs. Then Smoothies Lealanas and his outstanding "King K" design are truly awesome (albeit a little more disconnected form the obvious crypto)

As for making it, there's plenty of makers out there to assist. From best mints to best materials and sizing. I'm sure you won't be short of people that can advise.

Viz

Oh me likey likey!!!!

So basically only Chipmixer campaigners get it?  ::)

Features:

Each coin to be specially designed as per each user's UID and have their UID engraved in it. Or even better, engrave the user's avatar and name on one side, and a default bitcointalk logo, or anything that exclusively defines bitcointalk on the other side.

How about THAT?

Also if possible, load the exact amount of satoshis/ ubtc/mbtc equivalent to the merit/post count of the person receiving it?

Great idea, but what about something truly unique. Coins are great , but what about a hollow sphere, cube or linked blocks . I’m certainly no designer, and have no idea how difficult it is to make something 3D, but it would certainly be unique.

I would commission some well-respected and known crypto collectibles manufacturer to make such a coin & all the things related to it, or maybe a group of 2-3. Also, I would not limit it under 1000 pieces. I would see a pre-loaded coin as much nicer than an unloaded or non-holo coin, even though that includes its own problems.

Of course a non-coin collectible could be nice... But costs may increase a lot, etc. Maybe some sort of an unique artwork divided in even pieces? All in all, I think a simple approach yields better outcome.

This would really be an awesome idea if that comes out as planned. You seem to be consistently giving out some cool ideas but most of them doesn't get implemented as planned right from the report badges to YouTube Videos. May be you are the only one working on scripting and codes and your busy schedule is pushing these ideas to an unknown future date.

Why is the number ranging from 50-300, isn't it pretty low for such a huge forum? Are there only 300 reputed members? May be you could give around 1000-2000 coins to all those willing to expose their location to you primarily since most of them remain anonymous. Also what would be the purpose of giving someone a collectible coin (which might be quite rare) if they doesn't know what it is?

Of course YES. Some coin makers like Kialara who has insane levels of thinking in designing collectibles take a little higher time than expected, anyways planning soon would be better so that the coin can be announced exactly on November 22, 2019 18:04?

A pre loaded one or a DIY coin should be the primary aspect of a bitcoin collectible. The private keys should be controlled by you/other treasurers of this forum. Like others said, may be we can take on the poll for best designs after the maker has released few of his ideas to the public.

May be you can give away the coins to the top contributors to this forum and other small contributors can probably be awarded with a polymerbit note? That could be better actually. There are quite good coin makers in the market right from Kialara, CryptoImperator and others whom you can hire to bring the best out of their minds to commemorate the 10th year anniversary.

What makes them superior from other users of this forum? Posting quality? Oh man, what has posting quality to do with collectibles?

That's certainly a very bad idea. It would become a hectic work for the coin maker or probably the coin will never come out actually! It should be of similar patterns with numbering from 1-1000/2000 and giving them out on the basis of account age of the user. For instance if the user registered on 2010 they would be receiving the first set of coins and later on.

I have been trading at several numismatic sites for about 10 years. Sometimes there is a high demand for popular, commemorative coins, limited editions, even modern ones. I think the criteria are high-quality silver, high quality embossing, good design (possibly BTC logo), a complex and beautiful "edge" (edge ​​of a coin). A size of 25 mm, about an inch, will suffice. Numismatists begin to use payments at BTC, it is already gaining prominence among them. If they understand the significance of the forum, this will be a good factor. But with the circulation of 300 pcs., To the coin collectors, these coins may not reach)). In the future it may be a good investment. It is necessary to store without loss of quality, without minor damage and sunlight, in order to preserve the "stamp shine".

I guess that there would be a demand for 2 versions - one possibly silver, at a cost and one cheaper to manufacture (brass? maybe even plastic?) for the users that meet certain criteria and just want a souvenir.

another option. make a memorable set of three or five coins, with various memorable events of the forum.

Lol, I don't know about that but I would certainly like to know what those criteria would be--and I'd absolutely love to own such a neat thing.  I don't even care if the coin was made out of precious metal or loaded with btc or anything else.  It's a great idea, IMO, and I fully support it.

Yes It does sound like a good idea and I would gladly buy one.


But this one will be a 10th anniversary coin so it will be different than the older one.

Will it be a souvenir or a real coin accepted for payment? This is an important point.
p.s. most likely the correct definition would be the “table medal”.
p.s.s. If you strive to make an expensive medal, you can make a case of bog oak or other wood without resin.

I’m never saying no to a good looking crypto- related collectable.
Great idea, as long as you make sure all of us collectors are able to get one :D
Perhaps you can get casascius to make one last round of coins, similar to his superbowl coin.
As the first one who created physical crypto coins, that would definitely be a great thing!

Cheers,

.999 Ag

Yes, good idea

I want one :P

I would love something like this theymos as I am sure many others would also. I would prefer something with the weight and feel of a eagle or maple leaf so I can use it at the card table for a marker. A limited numbered run would be preferable and add to its collectible nature imho.

Wall approved.

Talk to krogothmanhattan. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1000199) He makes physical coin giveaways often. Like here >https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5110106.0

I am sure he can help set you up with the manufacturer of the coins.

I like the idea of a bitcointalk forum coin to celebrate the moment. DIY would be preferred do ; )
As there will be more interested people then coins produced a blockchian raffle maybe ?

How about something like this?

https://i.imgur.com/31LOcgc.jpg

Its a crude design but the idea is to show the earth rotating around the sun (in the middle, raised).

If somehow this would be a possibility that would be epic.  Dont think mike has an interest anymore he completed his mission but that would make one hell of a release day.  Popcorn would be ready

If mike was willing to design and mint 1000 of these anniversary coins, similar to how he did the st. pete bowl coins, that would be the bees knees!

I think that’s a great idea theymos.   Maybe have a contest and pick the best design?    


Perhaps it could have the anniversary days and display the bitcoin price then vs now?

Posting quality means in one way, you contributed to the forum, and besides, it was a sarcastic remark. 

Not really. If these are going to be rare coins, might as well make it count!

Just so you know, almost 95%(Ddmr Ddmr/LoyceV, you can correct me of course with the right stats) of users registered in 2010 aren't active, and they *left* the forum.

My say is that the coins should go to those who deserve the most, for the years of contributing some people have done here, the least they could get is a collectible.  :-X


UM ME TOOO!!!!

It'd be cool , if we all chipmixer participants have a collectible coin of our own too, to remind us of how much we have tortured the scammers, nae the faint-hearted.

great idea !

just make a commemorative coin, not loaded with any BTC and give a serialnumber , 1oz 0.999 Silver

have it designed by some dedicated forum members like Bitcoinpenny (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=352429) or Mjbmonetarymetals (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=28640).

make a contest where all members can vote for their favorite design and give away a coin random to like 5 to 10 member who voted. Rest of the series, don't how how to give them away, maybe auction or let forum members vote for respected member who deserve a coin, let mods pick members who get a coin??

Great idea :D

I would prefer a coin with hologram, precious metal and limited :D

Whatever the design or specs, i'd like to see this happen please

anyone have more info on this? duckduckgo isnt helping.

I love the idea. There are some solid coin makers in here that am sure can give you some advice in the art of coin making. Bigtimesphagetti even wrote a book about it. ;)

  I would suggest silver 1oz coins. Loaded preferably. Limited to 100 coins. Goodluck

1. random raffle, provably fair, sha256 hash of user's name and random secret known by 2 different people revealed on the day, so everyone can verify who won. Hash sorted and lowest 100 wins.

2. comes with a loaded opendime, so no need to do anything to the physical coin or etch anything to it. (ha, i wish.)

Sounds like a good idea. Watching.

Yeah if it would be a coin.... Then Some coins with HAT-avatars would be an awesome collectible :)

Get XhomerX10 for Some design idea’s , thats the Guy keeping the WO colourfull day in day out ;)

But if it would come, i’m looking forward for the outcome.... and hope to own one with all the rest of coiners in here ;)

Maybe make them Unique to each member you wanna give the opportunity of having one
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Great idea.
Like jojo said .999 Ag, size of a dollar coin, and some cool scifi design.
I would love that, great initiative.

Very cool idea, I would without a doubt buy one!

Though I must say I'm kinda useless when it comes to throwing up ideas for it, though I would buy it!

I suggest doing in batches with date and with drawings that refer to an important fact that has occurred in the forum.
That is, a batch with the date of 2010 could have reference to the topic about the Laszlo pizza. The 2013 coin about HODLING. And so on.

In addition, it could have two types. One of .999 Ag and one of brass. So more people could buy or participate in the raffle.

If the coin is successful, small circulation will create prerequisites for fakes, it is now commonplace. In the creation technology there should be complexity for protection against fakes.

If this is a reward, the serial numbers will let you know the story. There may be several degrees of merit and several variants of execution.

If this project is in the style of minimalism, then everything is much simpler. :)

collectors always discuss a coin on the forum to make sure it is original. a lot of fakes, modern equipment has improved the quality of fakes. But each period had its own technology and there are small nuances of production. it makes sense if there is an expensive item.

id like to see more 2 try ounces of silver coins, single ounce would also be good. maybe a yearly release like steem coins?

It seems they were actively following all his topics and would chime in regardless of sections in which he posts!  ;D

Is this really true? If the idea of the coin/bar/note is very unique and difficult to reproduce we won't be seeing much of these fakes probably. Casascius coins were one among the few rare coins to be copied and reproduced, apart from that I don't see much fakes being reproduced! If that was so, it would completely destroy the value of coin in long run. Even some common chips like satoris and BTCC and coins like Bitcoin Penny haven't been reproduced even though they are somewhat easier to fake when compared to other premium collectibles like Lealana and Kialaras.

Have you encountered any fakes for Kialara moon suites or the recently produced Kialara Hydras?
What are your basis for these claims?

I am familiar only with the coins of the Russian Empire and the USSR. Very often attract high-end experts to determine. In Russian-speaking forums, it is often written that this is a threatening statistic both for the Middle Ages and for the 18th century and for the USSR. Although it is different technologies and metals. In rare instances, it has become customary to order a professional examination. I have seen a lot of sales, with a certificate in the kit.

Perhaps theymos will want to make an ordinary memorable copy, inexpensive. A copper medal with a good design will also be beautiful.

When?  Show at least one example of this happening.

of course. Ordinary coins, numismatics. :)We are discussing coins from metal?))

if in the search to enter fake coins there will be many articles and photos.

We have many tools to determine fake coins, welcome to the collectibles section.

I just ask the OP to consult some of the ORIGINAL  collectors to keep from cocking up this good idea.  Last thing you need is too many damn cooks in the kitchen.  Just my 2 Satoshis.  ;)

IMO I would like to see theymos get in contact with Kialara, smoothie (Lealana), and Mike Caldwell (Casascius). These guys have 1oz, 2oz coins on lockdown and create absolutely stunning pieces. Not to say we don't have some other very capable coin creators but those three come to mind as being very large parts of the growth of this particular board on the forum. I'd throw eodguy in there but so far the last coin he teased here seemed to never come to fruition. Mind you they could possibly already have a lot on their plate due to upcoming releases, but with the proper incentive and exposure im sure they could create something incredible.

We have some incredible holograms kicking around aswell.. use the resources we have and make this coin a must have.

50-300 is fine.

If we do not state a definite upper limit then we run into a Sorites paradox, where n+1 is as good as n and hence we arbitrarily increase.

This is a great idea.

If Mike Caldwell would do the run, as some people have suggested, that would be even more exciting as some sort of closing the loop from the first physicals.

To avoid counterfeits maybe a metal stamping (or laser engraving) machine could individually engrave a derivation of a user supplied public key so that an index of all originally issued coins can be published. Way better than a hologram unless someone intends to also store BTC on it (which I don't think is the point in this case).

Will keep on watching this thread :)

P.S.: Also it would be a good idea to make it from Silver. It's not like that would make it much more expensive to produce.

P.S.2: Titanium would also be great and it would in some way "show" the evolution from classic PM's to a more advanced store of value as Bitcoin represents. I think it is harder to manufacture (proof of work lol) though. Not sure... what do the experts say?

Good idea. I'd like to see an assembled unfunded coin.

Overall, the idea of a 10-year commemorative coin seems decent, and perhaps could be a nice and symbolic thing to do.

I find some of the responsive comments in this thread to confuse me regarding: 1) the purpose of such coin, 2) the forum's historical discussions on coin-making/distribution topics, 3) whether an actual forum coin has either been attempted or carried out in the past and 4) what would be the budget for such a coin?

OP's outline of current contemplations did not help because in my thinking, there would be a considerable different purpose of such a coin depending on whether such coin were given out "all expenses paid" or "at cost," but either way, mailing addresses would need to be provided for recipients.

The quantity of coins being contemplated, such as 50-300 coins, seems to conceptualize the coins as a kind of "thank you for your contribution" token rather than a speculative collectors piece, but if the coins were going to be given out "at cost" then they might be more of a speculative piece that would justify a larger production of units, such as some responders suggested 1,000 to 2,000 coins (but maybe still could stick with 50-300 for the initial production batch to test out sentiment (pre-orders, too) even though considering a larger total amount, so long as the demand covers the costs of the coin).

Furthermore, depending on the coin materials, such coin costs and material value could reasonably be anywhere between $1 and $100, and of course, the more coins that are made would bring down the production cost per unit.  Several members mentioned silver as an upgrade, so maybe there are thoughts of cheaper coins too, yet perhaps gold would be a bit more classy... hahahahaha

As I have been thinking through the issue, I have been becoming somewhat torn about the whole idea, yet I am sort of inclined towards the idea of a "all expenses paid" give away coin rather than something more complicated in order to limit liability or accusations of profit making, yet I am still unclear about what kind of budget would theymos been anticipating. 

If the coin were given out "all expenses paid" then would the budget be $300, $3k or $30k or somewhere in the middle?
 Something like $1 x 300 or $10 x 300, or $100 x 300?  or if the purchasers of the coin were to pay for the coin, then there would have to be a perception of value from the users in terms of how much they would be willing to pay to cover the "costs" of such coin and also a willingness to provide a mailing address for receipt of such coin. 

Personally, the more that I think through this and type about it, I believe that it would be better to just establish a budget for the coin, and then provide the coins as a "give away" all expenses paid. Then the budget, such as $3k or $30k (or somewhere between) might dictate how many coins could be made for that amount, depending on if there would be access to people who are experienced in the coin-making business as teeGUMES mentioned.. or if the coin-making vender would be opened up for biddings and request for proposals (RFPs).

It doesn't have to be pure gold or silver. Triple electroplated gold over tungsten would make it feel as heavy as gold and look just as good, but of course, that better be stated up front.

But then again, a precious metal collectible coin from "the" bitcointalk forum that isn't 0.999 of a particular metal ...

someone has stumbled onto a goldmine :)

Load 10 coins with 10btc to celebrate 10 years.

Have a fun draw or other type of entry.

That would be cool.

IMHO an anniversary bitcointalk collectible coin would be awesome!

I would prefer something designed by Mike caldwell.

If it is difficult to make an loaded coin happen it could be something like the St. Petersburg bowl coin for example.

If it is a loaded coin it would be awesome if the privatekey is engraved which would drive up premium though.

Something very different would be an unique opendime design with a limited run.

I can't wait to see this in action. It lets me want to create a design too, but for me, it would be playing cards. Lol.

Gold coins loaded with BTC - is there anything better then that?  ;D

Cardboard coins. Unique and only of value to Bitcoin enthusiasts.

Why not clear plastic coins like BitcoinPenny did? ;D

How about chocolate coins with the gold foil.

People say you can't hold bitcoin, well I won't be holding them, I'll be eating the damn things in front of them.

If you plan on giving them for free, maybe work with one of the coin makers on the forum, and give them some sort of unique signature? Something to prove that the coin was genuinely affiliated with bitcointalk at some point.

For example instead of minting new coins, send a dust transaction from the forum's donation address to the new coins. Or maybe have the design contain some unique handwritten signature, or anything really that's more sentimental rather than valuable.

I don't know what your criteria is going to be, and while I'm an old time member & my usage of the forums is more seasonal, since I made and lost a lot on bitcoin, it would be nice if I could get one. It's a great initiative though, good luck.

For those of you who have no idea about collectibles.... when done wrong, they fail like this forum inspired set.

https://i.imgur.com/FDgvmWc.jpg



p.s.  O.P. I can’t believe the amount of users who follow your every move!!  Lol.  Never seen 90% of these users in collectibles over the last year.  They all can’t actually care about collectibles since they’ve never been here before.  That would leave 2 types of users IMO.  People who just want to kiss your ass or people just looking for free s**t!  Either way it’s sad. 

It would be terrible if you created a forum coin and the actual collectors on your forum, who MADE this section what it is, didn’t get one. 

I am actually amazed to see so many different folks in here.  That set was made by a scammer, who didnt even make much off that scam.  Following this thread with interest, it'd be nice if there were some new faces in the physical collecting scene for sure though.

I'd like to see this happen. I agree to it being a silver 1oz coin

Then need to decide if it is a token - ie just metal, or if it could have the potential to be funded - ie private key and hologram (and then decide if it is funded, or DIY)

My thoughts are that I would love a funded coin, but the expenses and trust issues may make this trickier. Something like the Casascius St Petersburg Bowl coin may be more practical. BUT a bitcointalk forum coin, without bitcoin .... doesnt seem right.

DIY funding with holo would get my vote

I’m happy to be here a few days before of that ::)

I have long wanted to put out a community coin designed by the community, for the community.

Would be great if lots of people could be involved with this project.

If you need any help theymos, I’m pretty sure that I can get these made cheaper and with a higher quality (see the grades my coins get) than most. I’d also be willing to offer my engraving services, but am not sure that private keys known by an individual would be a great idea. Perhaps more as a personalization or customization option.

Really?

You sure you don't want to take a second thought about that claim of yours?

I do hope there will be a coin-makers-team named : BLOCK : Bitcoinpenny Lealana Ognasty Casascius Kialara

the best coinmakers join their knowledge and creativity

so you better start contacting them soon theymos  ;D

Lol.  I don't know what category I fall under here, but I'm a fan of the forum--not necessarily physical bitcoin collectibles--and that's what drew my attention.  I had suggested a deck of cards a few months ago with much the same intent (not commemorating the 10 year anniversary, though). 

I'm not looking for a freebie, nor do I think I'd even qualify for one since I haven't even been here 4 years yet.  Just voicing my support....and now I'll slowly back away, shutting the door gently on my way out.  Peace out.

This thread is about a COMMUNITY coin, this isn't a pissing match. Yes people have come in here following theymos' post that aren't naturally in the Collectibles board every day. Does that mean they aren't a part of the bitcointalk community? No it doesn't.
Do we have a lot of coin creators that are active right now? Yes we do. Does that mean we should shit on somebody for offering their services? No it doesn't.
Do we also have coin creators that fucked right off due to toxicity on the Collectibles board? Absolutely. So keep your comments to yourself if you aren't going to act as a community for a community sourced coin.

Fair enough and I appreciate your point.  On the flip side if you spent some more time in the section you’d see how much better it is.  The old collectors police it pretty well.  People watching out for one another to avoid the scams you may have grown accustomed to.  All kinds of tech being used as well.  A wonderful Casascius tracker among others to help raise a red flag should coins start being swept.  

pass on the blowjob ;)


I can obviously be wrong, proven by the well hung black man quoted above.  


Edit:
Apologies for derailing this.  Sure, sometimes I’m an asshole....

From what I’ve seen over the years when it comes to coins being graded and their pricing, I disagree with your statement. However, I do urge theymos to do the legwork to get quotes and review prior coin grades as opposed to taking my word for it.

As for features, I'd point to the last coin I created (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2286786.0) as having some great ones.

• .9999 Fine Silver (four 9's)
• Engraved Private Key
• Sequential Vanity Address
• Enameled Colorization
• Partial Select Gold Plating
• Custom Hologram

While he did a fairly big no-no a couple of years back, I think that if this actually comes to fruition then CryptoImperator (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=316604)'s input would be valuable when it comes to design.
If we're just talking about the quality of coins that have come out in recent times, I would probably place him near (or at) the top.

Lets not forget oneNattylitecoin...amazing designs for sure.

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/03/01/f9Nv5.jpeg

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/03/01/f9Eiz.jpeg

Have you sorted the milk spotting issue?

Great idea Bavi!   (To ask Mike Caldwell of Casascius to design it)

Love the idea for a 10-year anniversary coin.

How the hell you become a collector?Well, you start from somewhere of course and here is one great chance for those who want to be collectors, but did't have enough knowledge to buy some coins in the Collectibles section.
I've been browsing around for a while looking on different coins but never had the bet on any auction.
It will probably come the time when I will join the collectors' brotherhood. All my experience till now was the Krogos' free raffles, in which I won a few coins.
I'll keep an eye on this idea. It will be good start for me :)

This is a great idea.  Mick having designed the first precious metal physical Bitcoin collectible along with many other things in this community over a period of ~8 years makes him an excellent candidate for designing a community round.  His original design is already widely circulated in the media in crypto related articles also.

I would love a bitcointalk commemorative coin :D

I would be thrilled it this turned into a competition between the best coin designers on this forum!

May be you can give away the coins to the top contributors to this forum and other small contributors can probably be awarded with a polymerbit note? That could be better actually. There are quite good coin makers in the market right from Kialara, CryptoImperator and others whom you can hire to bring the best out of their minds to commemorate the 10th year anniversary.
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I like the sound of this. We could have a design and print done rather quickly, and be ready to ship before the anniversary.

Lol, so you're saying a forum coin, made to give back something to the people who gave the most to the forums, should be given to you, a 1-year old member that only posts in one section, because you're a coin collector.

If anything, coin collectors are probably the last people to give a shit about sentimental value, as this coin is just going to be "yet another coin" of your collection. Stop with the tribalism and let people enjoy things.

Not once did I say me.  I wasn’t expecting a damn thing.  I know I’m new here, but stating coin collectors are the last people to give a shit about sentimental value is about as ignorant as it gets.  The majority of collectors are collectors because of sentimental value. 

I think some guys earlier nailed it - just reach our to some of the experienced guys and either commission them or hear their words of wisdom. Talking nasty, cas, lea, etc.

Maybe even do a poll like coinographic did way back when choosing between multiple designs? 5 designs, 5 choices.

if we are doing votes

i put three names forward for the coin making

- Nattylitecoin
- CryptoImperator
- BitcoinPenny


Or as suggested by LC

Can go for a Cool Art Bar which will be way better than any other coin imho
by Kialara/max  Ofcourse :D

Max/Kialara  Edit to add w/ Julia

Indeed! The bars are so beautiful and bring out something worth for 10 years of forum fun

Let's just leave this wierd route this thread has taken alone.  But please dont all generalize coin collectors as people who dont consider sentimental value  Just take a look at cas coins, they are not the most artistic, but there is a sentimental value to them that coin collectors truly value.

Sorry, you're right, I take back that line. It was more sent to anonymousminer, you don't need to be a coin collector or need to have any sort of knowledge about collecting coins for you to be relevant here. I already said before that I'm probably not going to get it either, as there's probably a very short list of people theymos consider extremely valuable icons to the forums.

But the whole point was that, you just need to be a contributor to the forums, nothing more or less.

Im been waiting for that idea. for commemorating bitcointalk.org's 10^th anniversary.

- Gets the value on the coin.
- Unique Number (#Limited).
- Certificate, maybe.

That is  definitely a rare collection coin. But let's be fair, I suggest the lottery or raffle mode.

Let's do some vote  :D

This sounds like an awesome idea! Really hope it works out.

With regards to the design, I personally find the simpler but distinct ones to be a lot more appealing. It would be pretty cool if the coin design was linked to bitcointalk not just explicitly, but also contained some sort of hidden/secret message. Just a thought.

In my opinion Mike should do the coin. Cas coins are nr. 1, great design, flawless mint.
Perhaps do a combination of 1000 gold and 0.1 silver
☞ 0.1 BTC gold coin!

https://en.bitcoin.it/w/images/en/0/0b/Casascius_1000_BTC_gold_round.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wabco7x.jpg?1

A small run of a coin is obviously more costly than a larger one. It seems part of the idea of Theymos is to give the coin for free to some members that deserve it according to a not-yet-specified criteria. Probably a small group, more so if the coin features/quality make it costly.

Also that would leave many people interested "out of the deal".

Maybe the solution is to make a larger run, thus reducing the premium, and some people get it for free and the rest can buy it at cost? Also it is unknown where and how much the money going to cover the cost of the free coins is coming from. Another possibility is that there is a small surcharge on the paid coins to cover the cost of the free ones.

That would probably make a better coin be produced than if the budget was more restricted (ie. only free run).

Win-Win for everyone?

Also I would think a cool feature for a coin like this would be to have engraved (no holo) the nickname and or a user supplied public key (not a private one - not your keys, not your bitcoins you know). That would raise the sentimental value and meaning of the coin for forum members, and also substantially reduce the resell market of it.

Just some random ideas...

Will be watching this thread closely. I'd throw my hat in the ring, sounds like an awesome project. Competition could be a great way to go about choosing a design.

Damn I first thought it is a normal user initiative, that would be great to see, and i would rather pay a bit and have it silver :).

Edit: Perhaps a bitcoin chart ? I mean for one side of the coin.

I agree on the competition, great idea.

just curious what's gonna come out of this :)

I'm not a collector, but a Bitcointalk coin somehow sounds very attractive. Until now I haven't even joined any of the many giveaways because I don't want to dox myself, but I might have to reconsider for this anniversary edition.

BIP38 can limit the risk, if only the receiver knows the password and the encrypted key gets engraved.

  Getting a PO Box is a good way to prevent this.  ;)

Or sending it to a friend, which is what I plan to do. It's not like I need perfect opsec anyways.

im in for several.

1 oz .999 silver is my preference.

Very interesting idea, following!

We all know of some really experienced collectors and some amazing designers here, by pointing out who should design vs who should not is just not fair among designers.

My suggestion:
1. Create a small group of 10-15 EXPERIENCED and KNOWLEDGEABLE collectors as judges
2. All designers submit their designs to them.
3. After review they can choose whatever number of designs(maybe around 3-5) they choose and create the polls along with/without the prices for the community to choose the final design.
4. For distribution - that's little bit tricky and don't have any idea how to do that, i am sure one of the senior members can chime in new creative idea or probably some way that was used in one of the earlier auctions or sales.


After all this is a community anniversary coin that we are talking about and we should let community choose.

Im sure a lot of coin manufacturers know how to ship their coins to multiple people. For example Krogothmanhattan jhas given away hundreds of coins so far, by now I'd bet he has a lot of experience on the how of it.

How about we make it from jade instead? And instead of the shape of the coin, we will make it the shape of your favorite green object.  :D

I'd definitely like one!

I like this idea, a contest will be nice for this one.

Wouldn't it make those 50-300 limited run coins more costly? If they are rare, these coins will surely be auctioned in future which shouldn't happen, since theymos has said that he offers these anniversary coins to only to few specific members based on certain criteria. Also, it would be good if those members were selected who has really contributed to the forum such as MODS, devs of epochtalk (probably just an idea), donators and other reputed guys roaming here. This shouldn't be handed over based on so called merit criteria since not all top merit receivers know about collectibles and their uniqueness actually.

Your notes were always of the best quality right from the newly made 10 year Bitcoin note and the community would love to see how you bring out the note if it was for the forum anniversary.  :)

You could trust collectors like MJ, they are a lot more trustworthy than any one here and would help in even reshipping them to your address. I guess MJ has a separate warehouse (The Mantis warehouse) for his collections.  :o

Come to think of it maybe a contest would be good idea too.

So much this.


Also, is this moving forward?

I think we could go a bit further down the poetic rabbit hole.  I think theymos should load them with 10BTC each and give them to all staff members (as of this date in case I get booted from being staff some time in the future!), 2 should be given to the P&S mod, because reasons.  ;D

Joking aside, it would be cool to have a little prize pool for a design competition, have a small BTC payment for the winner and smaller payment for X number of "honourable mentions".  I don't think the prize has to be big at all but something would be cool.

What about a bitcointalk edition from this maker
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116928.0
Same system to distribute.

EDIT
BTC loaded from user.

I love those coins, but frankly speaking as someone new to crypto sometimes it becomes little tricky with buying other crypto sending it across for loading and all. I have been buying lot of collectibles recently but this one threw me off in terms of what needs to be done., I would prefer, the designer/creator of the coin should charge 1 flat fee that prob includes loading, minting, etc, etc. basically an all inclusive price.

Well going back to the new coin I suggested this, and looks like lot of people liked the idea, I think it's a matter of staff members from forum to make the decision and get the ball rolling with whatever tweaks they wanna make to the suggestion below

Definitly eying this thread to see what will happen.
Even though competitions are often frustrating for many participants (only one gets chosen, so a lot of good work is often wasted), I'd personally love to see this happen.

I was thinking a special Staff coin would be cool and a nice gesture  :D.

Maybe one for the top ten merited users also:

https://i.imgur.com/hCz9uKl.jpg

Totally not biased or anything.

I haven't read through all this thread yet so I don't know what's been suggested, but maybe a good idea would be to hold some sort of charity raffle for them. That could generate a lot of money and at least go to some good causes.

Or the most trusted  ;)   www.bpip.org

https://talkimg.com/images/2024/03/01/f4Tjf.png

Where is the biggest ego list?

Nah, I'm not on this one.

Why can't we just get a nice coin with zero profits for maker, just paying the manufacturing and expenses in group.  That way we can get a nice silver coin for a bit over it's weight price. Could have somewhat added for design, can't make an opinion.

Oh man, i am not on either of the list, gotta work my way up there soon..

Jokes apart, i think there are lot of good suggestions, maybe have a group of top merits and trust people get together and make a decision to get this rolling.

Can wait to see the coin that comes out of all these decisions.

I say...let everyone be able to buy one at a reasonable cost. I wouldnt mind paying at all. Be fair to let everyone be able to get one and not just a select few. Cheers :D

I've always said you were the smartest mod.

Need to build a decision tree here, for starters.

If this is a coin to celebrate "big names", then proceed to path A.

If this is a coin for all Bitcoin Talk members to participate in, then proceed to path B.


The reason we're seeing so many wildly different suggestions is because there's no clear direction from OP.

I vote for a royal rumble type distribution.  Invite 100 people into the ring, last 10 men/women standing gets a coin.  Meet in Bora Bora for the rumble, trip funded by the OP, seems like a reasonable solution.  

If we do this like public n shits we could even get trip for participants for free.

I absolutely know for who that COIN would be..........

This thread is a waste of Internet.

If their comes one i would make it very special and give them out random/Raffle  
But stricktly to people on the forum with only good and honest intentions of participating @the forum
Those members should be chosen by Some established members and be dropped in a list
Maybe a bit of trusted-with Some earned merit-good active etc
Every section could have a few OG members that could select there part of people they see worthy of being on that list and Then just a fair raffle or something among them.....

This is a great idea.  Interesting features should include holograms and molds/dies commissioned from the community's favorite artists.

The best way to make a coin like this would be allocation of access to different versions based on rank.

Of course the coins must have "I AM HODLING" repeated around their edges and their owners' forum rank inscribed somewhere.  :D

All versions would have the same front text, which would state the obvious


and feature our motto:


and, in a smaller inscription


The 3 versions should ideally be as follows

Regular:
https://i.imgur.com/X6cR1oN.png
(imagine using a gray metal for the black parts and gold for the white bits)  :o
Back design+sticker by Cryptopods + OGNasty.
Value of 2,100 Satoshis on 1oz copper (black ruthenium-plated with gold accents that will look sleek af)


Hero:
https://i.imgur.com/qL1vCrs.jpg
Back should a Crypto Imperator hologram on a Kialara die. 
Value of 21,000 Satoshis on 2oz high relief silver w/ gold-plate accents


Legendary:
https://i.imgur.com/aLqHKHA.jpg
Back: collaboration between Mike from Casascius and smoothie from Lealana; one designs the hologram and the other sculpts the die.
Value of 21,000,000 Satoshis on 5 oz of silver w/ gold-plate accents


All the drama around this project just makes it too perfect for Bitcoin Talk.  Would we want it any other way?

This reminds me of something I wrote long ago and can't find now, perhaps it should also be on the coins?  ::)

Why not a card instead of coin like ChiBitCty suggested?

   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5144095.0

Why not both? They are not mutually exclusive.

Where is that artwork from? Did you design it?
Love it.

Thank you for the suggestion Krogoth :)

We would be very happy to offer special Coldkeys (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5130905.0), designed by and for the Bitcointalk community. :)
That batch would have no minimum order quantity. And if we are to do this, a design contest should be held on the forum, with users voting for their favorite design.
The whole batch can be loaded with an amount of bitcoin to be determined later, or come unfunded.
With the designing and production delays, I feel safe to say that shipping will occur sometime within two months after the GO.

Coldkey cards are secure cold wallets in the shape of a card.
A few features :
- tamper-evident : the physical card state changes when the private key is accessed.
- serialization : each Coldkey has it's own and unique serial number.
- enhanced authentication : with a plain text AuthKey and a UV one, Coldkeys are easily authenticated and it is very difficult to counterfeit them.
- bech32 addresses : save ~40% on bitcoin fees !
and many more...

Please read the ANN thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5130905.0) if you'd like to know more ! :)

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I believe the original work has been made by this artist :

https://www.etsy.com/shop/matthabel

He made a few sales here on the forum. I know he's been around for at least a year.

Thank you Yogg!
btw: Need to take a closer look at your coldkeys, that sounds pretty amazing.

To be honest I wouldn't want to see anythiing related to bcash on those coins. It is all fine making bcash jokes but I don't want to remember that piece of shit fork whenever I see the coin.

** I don't even know if I'm eligible to get a coin, just speaking my mind **

When I look at my coin, I want to remember the good memories like "hodl" or "pizza for 10k coins" or some quotes from satoshi (theymos is ok too ;D)

Not shitheads like Roger Ver, Craig Wright or any other bcash moron.

Just a thought.

Indeed its a BTC thing so we gotta keep it BTC....

And cause of the Long existence of the forum, it could be BTC-forum related, with a few touches of the crazy ride we all have shared and experienced :)

Just turn this into a coin.  Done.

https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1600/1*kN-euZQpGTqcvB4O5KhSlw.jpeg

Like others who have mentioned I like the idea of a custom printed Tangem credit card sized reusable hardware wallet. Tangem has already expressed interest in working with the forum to create a limited run of collectible, serialized Tangem cards, maybe 1000. They can fund the $5000 cost for a run of 1000 cards with a pre-sale on their website, they are just asking for help from the graphic artists here to come up with the design. See the Tangem thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5144095.0). I already have some of the cards on the way to try out, unlike Coldkey they have the advantage of being reusable.  

I assume the (loaded) coin will be released (and funded) on : 20-09-2019 (< european date-format)

I second this.  I'd love to see a coin with this on it, what better than the forum coin.

Why funded? I would really like to see this coming, funded makes it a bit more expensive for no reason, when one could have an easily verifiable address and prove it was funded after or just unfunded.
Also, some people want to make the addresses themselves for security reasons.

Edit:
Oh double address on same pkey for token and btc? That possible? Or two privatekeys on the back.

It could be funded with Liquid tokens. That wouldn’t have much of an effect on price.

What about funding them with 1 grin, or 10 grin or something like that. Since grin is the only alt coin the fourm supports I think that is a good cause and it is super cheap

Is this place Grintalk? No. BTCTalk. BTC coin/card.

If it has to be funded, it will obviously be in BTC, even though the forum supports Grin.
However, I hope it will not be a too big amount. And it doesn't absolutely have to be funded, IMO: if the forum has its coin, it should maybe be accessible to any member that is useful for the community.

There's no reason for these coins to be funded IMO. Just a token would make sense for an anniversary doohickey.

   Yes a commemorative token is great too.

I have started this proposal: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5148694.0

Please let me know what you think :)

fundable anyhow would be way greater, that lil spot to fit the holo.

Edit: whyfhy completly agree with your statement on the post over, .001 and .0001 coins would be fucking amazing.

I think a 0.001 or 0.0001 load would be a neat aspect to it as well would love to see my alias etched on a collectible coin too.  Go big or go home! CI if you execute I want one.

Great idea, would love to see this become a reality

Equal value of metal and crypto would be pretty neat, however would make it a bit expensive for silver world wide, this leaves us on to copper for cheap production and cost.
Perhaps higher cost for silver version, I'm certain the member's that bought silver version will be buying the copper version from other's in that case and get a mount of the coins anyhow.

I know i def want a 10th anniversary btc talk coin!

I wonder if Casascius would create a coin for this? It would probably be worth at least asking him as he has created commerative coins in the past (St. Petersburg coins). Imagine how cool a forum coin made by Mike would be.

Very cool indeed! Anyone here know Mike from the past should ask!

second it!

I decided that I won't have time to see through the creation of a coin myself. If one or more other people want to create collectibles, I can advertise them into the 10-year-anniversary topic which I will eventually create. And if there's a really good product, I would be willing to partially subsidize the cost of them for the top n forum members, or something in that general vein. But I decided that there'd be far too many things to figure out from scratch with an official forum giveaway (eg. creating the design, getting the coins made, delivering items, safely/privately sharing data with various new service providers, debating exact giveaway conditions, etc.), so if anything is going to be done here, it'll have to be done independently.

Sorry if I got people's hopes up.

I can relate. It's a big job when it comes down to it.... :P

Anyhow, perhaps @yogg, @polymerbit or another from Collectibles can come up with something for your thread.

Thanks! :)

Well, if you'll gonna still advertise the coin then it will still make sense. We understand that you can't just handle it all, atleast you have given us an idea. Just hoping somebody can come up with a solution to make this happen.
Was also thinking about him for a moment,


 And was also thinking about BitcoinPenny who managed memorial coins of Zepher.

When it comes to giveaway coins, I could vouch for Bitcoin Penny for minting those coins. They have done Zepher memorial giveaway coins which was such a good generosity from them by joining with Mantis Prime. I have ordered quite a few coins from them, and we could also suggest them to make some special doodles for these giveaway coins something like a special doodle which will particularly denote each member something like that?  I am not really sure how this will go, but the distribution and handling of coins can be done by Mantis Prime Distribution.

Bitcoin Penny and Polymerbit are indeed great designers themselves so the design for the unique 10^th year anniversary can be done by them instead of relying over someone else. Could they collaborate for the design and coin making process?

If some of the forum members are willing to remain anonymous or not really willing to giveaway their personal address/ PO box addresses to either minerjones/Bitcoin Penny, the can be neglected from joining the giveaway.

The exact giveaway conditions which theymos is talking about could be very much tricky. Each member can never be judged upon any of the criteria like merit, trust, posts etc but one thing which comes to my mind is the "Most Recognized Members" from bpip website. But there does seem to be another problem associated with it such like seasoned collectors would have not received much merits or their name wouldn't be present in "Most Recognized Club" but they should be rewarded with these coins for sure (just my thought).

@theymos, great. I wasn't sure of what stance to adopt here.
Allright then, we'll put our plan in motion soon.

Thanks a lot owlcatz and cabalism13 for recommending me and Coldkey. :)

If I am not mistaken, the forum 10years anniversary is on the 22nd of November, is that it ?

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I am still currently handling a backlog of orders, have many things to do, but also have some plans for the 10 years anniversary of Bitcointalk.
Okay, it's not a coin, but it will still be a serialized, physical crypto wallet, with functional keys and all of the Coldkey features.
AND made especially to commemorate the 10 years of Bitcointalk. :)

Couple of things I like about the coin, is the design and there was an option to have the username etched on it.. Makes it really cool and funding with minimal amount like (.001-.005 btc) gives an added incentive to keep it forever..

So when are we finalizing something on this?

Huge Bump..... sorry.

The coin could have a "timelock" on it.
See what @yogg has done with his cryptobonds

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228739.msg53919760#msg53919760

You guys are super late here - Yogg already held a forum poll/contest and created multiple versions of the 10 year bitcointalk collectible card - Sadly they are all sold out, but here is what it looked like:

https://www.coldkey.eu/product/10th-anniversary-of-bitcointalk-commemorative-coldkey/

Is this still in progress? I hope anyone can have a chance to get one or there's no high eligibility to get one 🤔

Actually I wanted to have one.

I think @Welsh was the one who took the initiative to find a manufacturer for the physical coin.
See here > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191127.0
The development of the project was quite delayed so I don't know what the final result will be.
Anyway watching both threads for surprises :)

Did you even read the 4 posts before yours? FFS, man.... ::)

A shame this never happened.  I think a lot of people underestimate the amount of work and investment that goes into a project like this.  Especially when you haven't done it before and have to create all new processes.  A bit of a disappointment that instead of getting help, the project was abandoned as soon as it was realized that it wouldn't be easy.  Hopefully a new respect was found for the coinmakers who have been taking all the financial risk and using their own free time to bring creations like this to life for the community for many years.  I think just bankrolling the project and selecting good creators to make it happen would have been the way forward, but I understand that the 'juice wasn't worth the squeeze' when you are the one putting in the time and money to make it happen for the joy of others and the promotion of Bitcoin.