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Alternate cryptocurrencies => Altcoin Discussion => Topic started by: Coinsy on March 11, 2014, 06:19:23 PM



Title: Will the value of Aurora really plummet after airdrop? Or will it rise?
Post by: Coinsy on March 11, 2014, 06:19:23 PM
All I keep reading is that Aurora is currently overvalued because there is a 10.5m total coin supply and only so much of it is in circulation since it is a new currency. I get it. Since only so many coins are available for exchange, the coins that can be bought and sold are inflated in price. Basic supply and demand.

Well, my question is, firstly, and correct me if I'm wrong: after airdrop this raises the total coin supply to 21 million, correct? So Aur will have a total coin supply of 21 million with how much Aurora in circulation? We all know all of Iceland isn't getting their 31 Aur on March 25th. It will certainly be a gradual airdrop assuming it's executed as planned. Not every Icelander will be claiming its 31 Aur right away, if at all.

So assuming the actual exchangeable coin supply on March 24th isn't that much different from the exchangeable coin supply on March 25th, and the total coin supply on March 25th doubles from 10.5m to 21m, with the same supply and demand theory applied to the March 25th market capitalization, its price should increase. Since only so many coins are available for exchange, the coins that can be bought and sold are inflated in price. Basic supply and demand. Not to mention, the percentage of coins that can be exchanged after airdrop are a drastically smaller fraction than pre-airdrop.

A rough numbers look based on very rough estimates:

March 24th - 200,000 liquid coin supply/10,500,000 total coin supply  = 1.9% liquid Aurora that can be traded hands against the market cap

March 25th (Airdrop) - 300,000 liquid coin supply /21,000,000 total coin supply (let's say for whatever reason liquid coin supply increases by 100,000 over night)  =  1.4% liquid Aurora that can be traded hands against the market cap

TL;DR, shouldn't we be considering the price of Aur to spike after March 25th?


Title: Re: Will the value of Aurora really plummet after airdrop? Or will it rise?
Post by: Zzzack on March 11, 2014, 06:42:09 PM
Nice try but fail

The real question to be asked is why the devs refuse to take any measure to prevent that obvious that the air drop is nothing more than a way to launder the premine.

The only way to prevent this is for the devs to turn over the premine to a trusted third party and remove themselves entirely from the air drop.

Something they have made clear, they will not do.

Furthermore, the Icelandic Government has absolutely nothing to do with this and no one even knows if the devs are actually in Iceland as claimed.

Looking at the logistical impossibility of disbursing these coins, this is becoming a blatant in your face scam with each passing day.


~BCX~

Devs are pretty much guaranteed not to be in Iceland. Coin would be illegal to distribute in Iceland from everything I've read


Title: Re: Will the value of Aurora really plummet after airdrop? Or will it rise?
Post by: Nullu on March 11, 2014, 06:43:37 PM
Whether or not I believe the devs legitimately plan this airdrop, when I think about how ludicrous the logistics are, I pretty much end up answering my own question.


Title: Re: Will the value of Aurora really plummet after airdrop? Or will it rise?
Post by: Zackgeno96 on March 11, 2014, 06:54:21 PM
can't wait to see the airdrop (DUMP) ill be eating some popcorn :)


Title: Re: Will the value of Aurora really plummet after airdrop? Or will it rise?
Post by: Coinsy on March 11, 2014, 10:14:47 PM
Nice try but fail
Oh, how did I fail?


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The real question to be asked is why the devs refuse to take any measure to prevent that obvious that the air drop is nothing more than a way to launder the premine.

The only way to prevent this is for the devs to turn over the premine to a trusted third party and remove themselves entirely from the air drop.

Something they have made clear, they will not do.

Furthermore, the Icelandic Government has absolutely nothing to do with this and no one even knows if the devs are actually in Iceland as claimed.

Looking at the logistical impossibility of disbursing these coins, this is becoming a blatant in your face scam with each passing day.


~BCX~
That's great, but that's more on the conspiracy side of things. I'm looking more at the numbers and economics side of things.


Title: Re: Will the value of Aurora really plummet after airdrop? Or will it rise?
Post by: wasamata on March 11, 2014, 10:31:33 PM
Yes it will free fall. Er um, literally!  ;)


Title: Re: Will the value of Aurora really plummet after airdrop? Or will it rise?
Post by: Coinsy on March 11, 2014, 10:35:26 PM
Yes it will free fall. Er um, literally!  ;)
I understand that's the theory. Explain your reasoning, and why the decreased percentage of liquid coins post-Airdrop won't affect the price (pretending that the Airdrop will be effective).


Title: Re: Will the value of Aurora really plummet after airdrop? Or will it rise?
Post by: Bigeyeone on March 11, 2014, 10:42:44 PM
popquiz:

What does the average Joe do with money after he receives it ?

uhm, spend it maybe ?  :o

so what do you recon the average joe in iceland gonna do huh ? after he gets free money brainiac ?

and what does he have to do first when he wants to spend auroracoin ?  :)



Title: Re: Will the value of Aurora really plummet after airdrop? Or will it rise?
Post by: Coinsy on March 11, 2014, 10:54:56 PM
popquiz:

What does the average Joe do with money after he receives it ?

uhm, spend it maybe ?  :o

so what do you recon the average joe in iceland gonna do huh ? after he gets free money brainiac ?

and what does he have to do first when he wants to spend auroracoin ?  :)


The average Joe won't be getting his 31 Aur on March 25th.


Title: Re: Will the value of Aurora really plummet after airdrop? Or will it rise?
Post by: Bigeyeone on March 11, 2014, 11:06:11 PM
popquiz:

What does the average Joe do with money after he receives it ?

uhm, spend it maybe ?  :o

so what do you recon the average joe in iceland gonna do huh ? after he gets free money brainiac ?

and what does he have to do first when he wants to spend auroracoin ?  :)


The average Joe won't be getting his 31 Aur on March 25th.

aha ok, so it is going to be some special targeted airdrop that only drops the money on the safers and speculators in the icelandic economy in the beginning of the airdrop and not on the 80 % or so of the population that just spends all the money that comes in every month or what ?


Title: Re: Will the value of Aurora really plummet after airdrop? Or will it rise?
Post by: Globb0 on March 11, 2014, 11:10:48 PM

Not every Icelander will be claiming its 31 Aur right away, if at all.

And what will happen to all these "if collected at all" coins you mention ?


Title: Re: Will the value of Aurora really plummet after airdrop? Or will it rise?
Post by: kalus on March 11, 2014, 11:27:32 PM
popquiz:

What does the average Joe do with money after he receives it ?

uhm, spend it maybe ?  :o

so what do you recon the average joe in iceland gonna do huh ? after he gets free money brainiac ?

and what does he have to do first when he wants to spend auroracoin ?  :)


The average Joe won't be getting his 31 Aur on March 25th.
don't you mean the average Siguršur don't be getting jack shit come march 25th?

Seems appropriate there isn't a single icelander in the development team for an 'icelandic' currency.  



Title: Re: Will the value of Aurora really plummet after airdrop? Or will it rise?
Post by: Coinsy on March 11, 2014, 11:54:30 PM
popquiz:

What does the average Joe do with money after he receives it ?

uhm, spend it maybe ?  :o

so what do you recon the average joe in iceland gonna do huh ? after he gets free money brainiac ?

and what does he have to do first when he wants to spend auroracoin ?  :)


The average Joe won't be getting his 31 Aur on March 25th.

aha ok, so it is going to be some special targeted airdrop that only drops the money on the safers and speculators in the icelandic economy in the beginning of the airdrop and not on the 80 % or so of the population that just spends all the money that comes in every month or what ?
I expect those who have heard of the crypto to come and attempt to claim their stake on day 1. I don't expect them to be allotted their stake on day one. I also do not expect much of Iceland to come claim their stake unless a larger media presence takes place on the focus of this coin. This results in a lot of unclaimed Aurora at the outset of the airdrop.


Title: Re: Will the value of Aurora really plummet after airdrop? Or will it rise?
Post by: s1gs3gv on March 11, 2014, 11:56:16 PM
I think a larger media presence is almost guaranteed by the theme of this coin.


Title: Re: Will the value of Aurora really plummet after airdrop? Or will it rise?
Post by: Coinsy on March 11, 2014, 11:57:03 PM
I think a larger media presence is almost guaranteed by the theme of this coin.
Well, if the airdrop is effective, yes.


Title: Re: Will the value of Aurora really plummet after airdrop? Or will it rise?
Post by: s1gs3gv on March 12, 2014, 12:05:31 AM
I think its likely whether the air drop is completed or not.


Title: Re: Will the value of Aurora really plummet after airdrop? Or will it rise?
Post by: oneway on March 12, 2014, 12:34:13 AM
We all know what happened to a premined coin after the pump stage: the dump; Try the next premined one...


Title: Re: Will the value of Aurora really plummet after airdrop? Or will it rise?
Post by: rikkejohn on March 12, 2014, 12:37:13 AM
No, the price will not rise, or if it does it will be by sheer manipulation and pumping, in which case it will crash immediately after.

You see, Aurora is scam, not just an ordinary scam, but one predicated on a lie that will be exposed when the airdrop goes wrong.

Why people even believe what they are told about it is beyond me.

Someone was even going on about "feeding Iceland" ffs!