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Title: [>100%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Dividends where payed -> issue worthless"
Post by: molecular on November 07, 2011, 04:00:43 PM
ABORT, payback, see this post for status: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51133.msg640461#msg640461

maybe you noticed Max Keiser (http://maxkeiser.com) will come to Prague for the Bitcoin Conference (http://conference.bitgroups.org/) and speak there.

He's also planning to make a 26 minute news feature, titled European Bitcoin - Prague (http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/291). He's funding it via PirateMyFilm.

Max (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Keiser) has gathered quite an audience. He's inventor of GIABO (Global Insurrection against Banker Occupation). He's a ex wallstreet trader, "frontline financial war reporter", film-maker and truth-teller. He regularly exposes "financial terrorists" and rages on Russia Today (http://rt.com/) about global financial issues and related politics.

I think his movie could give bitcoin quite a publicity-boost in certain circles and I also think we should pool some resources to ensure it's being funded (USD 900 (currently about BTC 300) will fund the project)

Idea:

The idea is to pool support of the bitcoin community to fund this film via a "Proxy Contract" on GLBSE called MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm (http://glbse.com)

People buying shares of this issue on GLBSE will in fact be donating money to the production of this film. There will be no (regular) dividends payed and after the film is funded, the shares will likely be worth BTC 0. This is therefore not an investment in the classical sense, in that there will be no return.

Here's the contract:

Quote
GLBSE contract: "MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm"
The issuer of shares of this contract (herein called ISSUER) is molec@gmx.de, molecular on irc.freenode.net, molecular on bitcointalk.org.
This is a "proxy" shareholder contract used for funding a specific Project using bitcoin (bitcoin funding is not possible directly) on PirateMyFilms.com (herein called PMF): http://piratemyfilm.com/projects/291, titled "European Bitcoin - Prague" symboled EUROP, herein called "BITCOIN FILM"
Initially, 300 shares will be issued at a price of BTC 1. Additional shares might be offered subsequently if necessary due to exchange rate fluctuations.
All funds raised through this contract will be used to buy shares of BITCOIN FILM by way of exchanging the raised BTC to USD using a public exchange at market rate. This will be done at irregular intervals based on ISSUERs judgment of future exchange rate and time constraints.
Leftover funds: Should funds be left over because no BITCOIN FILM shares can be bought on PMF or should BITCOIN FILM not be realized as determined by PMF or should anything else happen that results in funds being leftover, the remaining (possibly all) funds will be payed to MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm shareholders via a dividend at most 7 days after BITCOIN FILM is either produced or it is sure BITCOIN FILM will not be produced and the PMF shares will be refunded (or do not have to be paid in the first place).
ISSUER does not take any fee or any other gain from the raised funds.
All raised funds will either be spent on BITCOIN FILM shares on PMF, or be payed back to (then current) shareholders as dividend.
This contract is subject to alterations by shareholder-accepted motions.
Discussion: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51133.0

Status: (as of Thu Nov 24 14:14:57 UTC 2011, exchange rate used for calc: 2.32 USD/BTC)

  • Funds needed for project: USD 1.500
  • Shares reserved on PirateMyFilm: 31 (of 300 needed, none of these are reserved by "us" (glbse + donations))
  • Funds received via GLBSE: BTC 41
  • Funds received via donation address: BTC 133.56
  • Project is 37.32% funded (10.33% via "others" on piratemyfilm, 6.34 via glbse, 20.65% via donation address)

Donations:

upon request in this thread, I setup a simple bitcoin donation address for people that dont want to go through the hassle a GLBSE account involves:

1GhJ9QpShc9t1jWNgx8DX8nA44GYojHhE3

Please after donating, make a post here with the transaction id and a return address. That way I can return leftover funds to the respective donator.

Any funds leftover after trying to return to the respective donators will be given to the bitcoin faucet.

LiteCoin donation address: LQoxjfjJWcWh3pNRVDJmaDHWBLoejju27X (funds to this address will be exchanged to BTC pretty much right away, so I might not be able to give back all LTC)

Links:

  • Thread this idea was born from: "Max Keiser speaking at Bitcoin Conference in Prague" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=49060.msg583765#msg583765)
  • Film Project info: PirateMyFilm Project 291 "European Bitcoin - Prague" (http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/291)
  • GLBSE Contract: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm (https://glbse.com/asset/e612adfd38720d4a6d6cdabababed0a5baa6631dd3ca69938fbdbe6625c9dbfb)
  • GLBSE share buying HowTo (a post in this thread): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51133.msg611782#msg611782
  • Blockexlorer Donation address received (http://blockexplorer.com/q/getreceivedbyaddress/1GhJ9QpShc9t1jWNgx8DX8nA44GYojHhE3)


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: sadpandatech on November 07, 2011, 04:55:03 PM
  you go, you.

  On the GLBSE cost, I believe it is .5 BTC to create a new asset. Atleast it was in the older post from Nef I read on GLBSE...


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 07, 2011, 05:10:04 PM
Yes, 0.5 BTC. I'll probably pay that out of my own pocket.

The contract is up.

Asset id: e612adfd38720d4a6d6cdabababed0a5baa6631dd3ca69938fbdbe6625c9dbfb
ticker symbol: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm <- you can use that as asset name.

I issued 300 shares, which are on sale for 1 BTC each.

So please, if you want the film made, go buy some shares.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 07, 2011, 05:27:25 PM
first share bought, wooohoooo!


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 07, 2011, 11:56:59 PM
ok, seems it's a slow start... 7 shares sold so far.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: cbeast on November 08, 2011, 02:19:20 AM
Max might bring a good message about Bitcoin. I'm looking forward to seeing the final project.

[edit] creating an account on GLBSE is easy.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 08, 2011, 09:24:13 AM
Max might bring a good message about Bitcoin. I'm looking forward to seeing the final project.

It doesn't currently look like it'll happen, though: only 21 of the 180 shares on piratemyfilm.com are bought. 10 shares of my glbse contract have been bought. So the film is only (21*5 + 10*3.03) / 900 = 15% funded.

So, please buy some shares if you want to see the final project.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 08, 2011, 10:03:57 AM
I'm hesitating to exchange the BTC to USD. I'll probably wait as long as possible before I do this, that way, I can give people their money back in BTC and they haven't lost anything, should the film not get funded and the exchange rate go south.

Thoughts?


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: ribuck on November 08, 2011, 11:16:07 AM
(Molecular, you need to fix the third link in your original post.)

It would be great if Max could make this film. Unfortunately, both GLBSE and PirateMyFilm have cumbersome payment processes.

Can you just post a simple Bitcoin donation address? You are in good standing at this forum. I'm sure there are people who would donate based on your promise to make the funds available to Max's film, yet those same people would not go through the complex processes required to donate via GLBSE or PirateMyFilm.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: 2weiX on November 08, 2011, 11:24:50 AM
Can you just post a simple Bitcoin donation address? You are in good standing at this forum. I'm sure there are people who would donate based on your promise to make the funds available to Max's film, yet those same people would not go through the complex processes required to donate via GLBSE or PirateMyFilm.

#2


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: sadpandatech on November 08, 2011, 11:51:49 AM
  Yea, not a bad idea. I intend to eventually setup a glbse acct but have not done so.

  However, I would send a few btc your way for the cause.


  +3  ;p


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 08, 2011, 12:21:04 PM
Can you just post a simple Bitcoin donation address? You are in good standing at this forum. I'm sure there are people who would donate based on your promise to make the funds available to Max's film, yet those same people would not go through the complex processes required to donate via GLBSE or PirateMyFilm.

#2

Good idea, the only drawback is that I cannot give people money back in case I cannot funnel the funds towards the film for any of the reasons mentioned in the contract.

Therefore: when you donate to the following address, do post the transaction ID and also a return address here if you want funds back in case I have leftovers.

  1GhJ9QpShc9t1jWNgx8DX8nA44GYojHhE3

Any leftovers I cannot give back to the donators will be given to the bitcoin faucet. EDIT: except the donator specifies otherwise to me in PM.

I'm not sure wether I should buy GLBSE shares with the donations or just keep records. Doesn't make much of a difference I guess, at least not until most shares are bought.



Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: sadpandatech on November 08, 2011, 12:49:45 PM
I'm not sure wether I should buy GLBSE shares with the donations or just keep records. Doesn't make much of a difference I guess, at least not until most shares are bought.


  Does GLBSE have a way to display shares outstanding from an IPO yet?  If so, go ahead and buy the shares and post a link or if they have an api to display it neetly, post that.  Will make it a bit more interactive and hopefully save you a little bit of trouble on keeping track.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: bitcoinspot.nl on November 08, 2011, 01:57:17 PM
For the lazy ones outthere (and me) could you make a litthe howto, on howto buy the shares etc ?


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: meanig on November 08, 2011, 05:50:00 PM
I just purchased a share. It was my first time using the GLBSE and I found the web client straightforward to setup and use. Thanks for the initiative molecular.

I really hope this film gets made because Max has an enormous following.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 08, 2011, 07:21:21 PM
There's good news and bad news:

Bad news: fund needed for the project was INCREASED from USD 900 to USD 1.500. I wrote an email to Max about this. Amongst other things, I asked wether we can expect more increases.

Good news: Someone donated BTC 100 to the donation address! Thanks to whoever that was!

I updated OP, project now 32% funded.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 08, 2011, 07:24:53 PM
Bad news: fund needed for the project was INCREASED from USD 900 to USD 1.500. I wrote an email to Max about this. Amongst other things, I asked wether we can expect more increases.

Just saw this "buzz" on PirateMyFilm by "PMF fund" (the owner of the project):

Quote from: PMF Fund
I have just learned that bitcoin prague is NOT picking up our flights So we need to get money into this project ASAP!!!!

I will not comment on this at this point.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 08, 2011, 07:36:54 PM
I just purchased a share. It was my first time using the GLBSE and I found the web client straightforward to setup and use. Thanks for the initiative molecular.

I never used any howto when I started using GLBSE couple weeks ago. It's not hard.

I think it might be important to advise to make a backup of the keys and stuff (can be done via the web interface) and to not forget the password.

I searched for a GLBSE howto, but couldn't find any.
Should anyone find one, please post it here.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: genjix on November 08, 2011, 07:48:11 PM
molecular, I'll let you in on the fact that funds are very tight, that organising a conference is no easy feat and extremely expensive. Anyway I'm not sure that the PMF guy there is Max Keiser since I remember Mitchell telling me when he was breaking down the costs that we have to pay for some flights. You can't fault that this conference is going to earn us negative money and a lot of effort and time has gone into it to benefit the community.

Also it still isn't confirmed 'officially' but Wikileaks is sending a spokesman + a prerecorded talk by Julian Assange (who wanted to but couldn't for obvious reasons :))


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 08, 2011, 09:34:49 PM
molecular, I'll let you in on the fact that funds are very tight, that organising a conference is no easy feat and extremely expensive. Anyway I'm not sure that the PMF guy there is Max Keiser since I remember Mitchell telling me when he was breaking down the costs that we have to pay for some flights. You can't fault that this conference is going to earn us negative money and a lot of effort and time has gone into it to benefit the community.

I'm a bit confused. I didn't try to imply the conference should pay for the flights. I was merely taken aback little by the fact that the "needed funds" increased.

I think you guys are doing a tremendously great job organizing and financing the conference in Prague. Thanks so much for that!

I wrote an email to info@piratemyfilms.com and received a reply from max@gmail.com:

Quote from: max@gmail.com
i heard that you guys don't cover our flights - so I had to up the budget
to cover the flights...

the budget can change on any project at any time - users can cancel/add
shares at any time

I'm not sure who "you guys" are supposed to be in this context. The bitcoin community? The bitcoin conference organizers? I also don't know who the "we" in "our flights" are.

At this point, I'll just accept the fact that the budget for the film has increased.

Also it still isn't confirmed 'officially' but Wikileaks is sending a spokesman + a prerecorded talk by Julian Assange (who wanted to but couldn't for obvious reasons :))

Wow, that's awesome news!



Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: genjix on November 08, 2011, 09:52:44 PM
Ahh OK my bad ;D Yeah Mitchell Bourne has done an amazing job so he deserves our applause. *clap clap* He's been doing the heavy lifting behind the scenes trying to make it work.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: ribuck on November 08, 2011, 10:09:08 PM
I'm sure most conferences that Max Keiser goes to will pay his air fares, but I understand why the Prague conference can't do so. And therefore I understand why Max's costs have gone up, now that he knows he has to pay for his and Stacey's flights. Fair enough.

I've made a donation, and I encourage others to. Max has a big following, and for him to make a 25-minute documentary would be fantastic for the growth of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: BitcoinMint.US on November 09, 2011, 02:47:19 AM
I was wondering what that ticker was about.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: bitcoinspot.nl on November 09, 2011, 09:02:20 AM
Well i'm really sorry, i (if i say myself) am pretty good with computers, but i cant figure out the glbse procedure to buy shares.
And the idea of giving somebody else bitcoins has proven to be a bad idea.

So: please give some instructions on the glbse thing.

I think that a lot of people share my view about not wanting to send bitcoins to a stranger.
Alse i find it difficult to do the glbse thing, and i predict that the majority of users will experience the same.

If you want more people to fund the project, please make it simple.
If you create some straightforward instructions, i will donate 5 bitcoins.

ok thanks.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: avoid3d on November 09, 2011, 09:15:48 AM
I will make a guide to the glbse today - awesome idea :)

however, be advised that buying shares is sending money to a random stranger, in this case the nice gentlemen trying to get funds together to promote bitcoin. your BTC go to him in this case (if I have read his comments right) :)


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 09, 2011, 09:34:40 AM
So: please give some instructions on the glbse thing.

I totally see your point and I agree. So let me try to give the simplest possible instruction to buy shares:

1.) Sign Up and Create an Account

  • open browser to https://glbse.com/client/glbse/index.html, enter a password to encrypt locally stored data, click "Go"
  • You should now be in "Account Managment", click "Register New Account"
  • You should now be in "Create New Account", click button "Generate new KeyPair" and enter an account name (any name will do) in "Enter a name for this account", click "Register"
  • You should be back in "Account Managment" and see the newly created account. Click the "Use" button next to the account name you entered before.

2.) Deposit funds

  • On the "Account Page" (It says "Global Bitcoin Stock Exchange" as title and there's a menu on the left), you can see your bitcoin balance on the top left below the title. Lets deposit some bitcoins by choosing "Deposit Funds" from the menu.
  • You're now on sub-page "Deposit Funds", click button "Get Deposit Address". You will see a bitcoin address in the text field below the button you just clicked.
  • Send some bitcoins to that address and wait for (I think) 7 confirmations. Click the "refresh"-icon to the right of your balance to see if the funds have arrived. (I sometimes get an error "verification failed due to incorrect signature", also when using other menu items. Dont worry too early, it seems to reliably work on second try)
  • You should now see your funds in the balance (top left)

3.) Buy shares

  • Choose "buy" from the menu.
  • Enter "MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm" into field "Enter the asset id"
  • Enter "5" (for example) into field "Enter the quantity you want to buy"
  • Enter "1" into field "Enter the price you are willing to pay"
  • Click button "Buy"
  • To verify you have bought the shares, you can choose "Portfolio" from the menu. You should also see the transaction in "Bitcoin History" and "Assets History".
  • To see the status of the Asset, choose "Asset" from the menu, enter "MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm" into field "Enter the Asset id" and click button "Get Details"

4.) Backup the keys

The keys for an account are stored as local data somehow in your browser. Maybe not a safe enough place... to make a backup, do the following:

  • go back to the "Account Managment" page by clicking button "Accounts List"
  • click button "Export Accounts"
  • click mouse in the big text area that appears and hit Ctrl-A or otherwise select all the text
  • paste that text into a new text file and store safely somewhere

I hope this helps. Please point out any mistakes.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 09, 2011, 09:39:21 AM
I will make a guide to the glbse today - awesome idea :)

however, be advised that buying shares is sending money to a random stranger, in this case the nice gentlemen trying to get funds together to promote bitcoin. your BTC go to him in this case (if I have read his comments right) :)

This is true. However note that I gave my email address, bitcointalk and irc alias in the contract. Not much more I can do.

I'll even give people my real name and address via PM upon request.

At some point, you'll just have to just trust, I guess.

In the end, we additionally have to trust PirateMyFilm and Max Keiser, too, to actually produce the film (and do so in a way that sheds positive light on bitcoin).


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: 2weiX on November 09, 2011, 10:04:40 AM
Although the whole experience of handling GLBSE with all the different sites for charts, info, trading history etc etc is a little tedious, the security precautions are TOP of the line and an example of how it's to be done.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: bitcoinspot.nl on November 09, 2011, 12:56:26 PM
OK, done

just bought 5 shares for 1 btc each

i would recommend that you spread the word around once more, with this little tutorial.
and maybe a little explanation on what this film is about etc etc.
If you want to make people do something, it has so be clear what they are buying and easy to do it.
Maybe a little poster as a teaser ?
:)

Ok sorry for my nagging, but i would think its great if this would succeed.

greetz from holland.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 09, 2011, 01:32:23 PM
OK, done

just bought 5 shares for 1 btc each

i would recommend that you spread the word around once more, with this little tutorial.
and maybe a little explanation on what this film is about etc etc.
If you want to make people do something, it has so be clear what they are buying and easy to do it.
Maybe a little poster as a teaser ?
:)

Ok sorry for my nagging, but i would think its great if this would succeed.

greetz from holland.

Dank for de nederländische support ;)

About spreading the word: one can only tell people so often before it's considered spam. I've put up this thread (obviously) and I try to keep it alive so people see it. From time to time I point people on #bitcoin irc channel to the thread, but as said, I don't want to appear spammy. I also try to spread word on twitter (don't have any considerable amount of followers, though).

There's a lot of other places where one could spread the word (other thread on bitcointalk, other forums, pool pages, bitcoin new sites, irc channels, etc pp), and I encourage everyone to do so. It's probably best to point people here, because this is where all the info is on how to contribute.

EDIT: another idea: maybe we could get this thread stickied? Anyone know a mod here that could do that? Would it help?
EDIT3: another idea: use your sig space (see my sig)

EDIT2: about getting info about what the film will be about: I've been trying to get some sort of a merketing punch-line from Max, but he didn't answer this specific question (I had other question/issues at the time). I don't want to bug him too hard, he's surely got a load of work these days. I'll drop a "project buzz" into PirateMyFilm site, maybe "rishey" can answer. It might be the case, though, that they are unclear themselves as to what exactly will be the content.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 09, 2011, 06:37:52 PM
we're on reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/m5yzi/help_funding_max_keisers_film_on_bitcoin

thanks to manfromnantucket1984 for posting ;)


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: avoid3d on November 09, 2011, 07:37:24 PM
I will make a guide to the glbse today - awesome idea :)

however, be advised that buying shares is sending money to a random stranger, in this case the nice gentlemen trying to get funds together to promote bitcoin. your BTC go to him in this case (if I have read his comments right) :)

This is true. However note that I gave my email address, bitcointalk and irc alias in the contract. Not much more I can do.

I'll even give people my real name and address via PM upon request.

At some point, you'll just have to just trust, I guess.

In the end, we additionally have to trust PirateMyFilm and Max Keiser, too, to actually produce the film (and do so in a way that sheds positive light on bitcoin).


Unfortunately trust is a funny thing, in real life you can say: I will trust everyone until they give me a reason not to, but on the interwebs with bitcoin, you have to reconsider :)

I do thank you for doing a good thing for our community and I will buy some shares if the BTC climbs abit and I can liquidate with a green number on my screen :P


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: DiThi on November 09, 2011, 08:15:05 PM
Bought 2 shares. Good luck with the project.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 10, 2011, 09:36:27 AM
You may have noticed that glbse.com has troubles. Stuff doesn't load.

Quote from: #glbse
<boonies4u> hello
<boonies4u> i'm having problems connecting
<brendio> yep. me too. looks like bicoind is down again
<boonies4u> great :/
<brendio> CHM, can you restart it? nefario posted recently that he'll be out of action while travelling
<boonies4u> i already sent him a pm over IRC
<boonies4u> no response

So it's probably nothing serious.

I just hope nefario gets around to restarting bitcoind quickly.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: TECSHARE on November 11, 2011, 12:00:29 PM
Its back up. Just bought 13 more shares of this.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 11, 2011, 01:19:15 PM
I updated OP. We cracked the 40%, yay!

Do you guys think I should sell some of the BTC at this point or hope the exchange rate will go up?


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: cbeast on November 11, 2011, 02:35:53 PM
I updated OP. We cracked the 40%, yay!

Do you guys think I should sell some of the BTC at this point or hope the exchange rate will go up?

Maybe they will accept payment in Bitcoin?


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: ribuck on November 11, 2011, 02:41:28 PM
Do you guys think I should sell some of the BTC at this point or hope the exchange rate will go up?
Maybe sell the BTC when/if Max calls in the pledges.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 11, 2011, 03:06:24 PM
Do you guys think I should sell some of the BTC at this point or hope the exchange rate will go up?
Maybe sell the BTC when/if Max calls in the pledges.

Yeah, I think that's most appropriate because that way I can give everyone their bitcoin back in case it doesn't happen.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 11, 2011, 03:19:36 PM
Someone seems to want to "get out" and is selling 15 shares for 0.99 BTC.

This is perfectly legitimate.

We could play nice and just buy them back. It would set us back 14.85, of course. Considering that we probably have to sell most of the shares anyway, this wouldn't make a difference in the end, because new donators will buy the 0.99 BTC shares first anyway.

What should I do?


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: 2weiX on November 11, 2011, 06:27:07 PM
that's up to you, really. wouldnt it be nice if a real "market" were to develop?
someone put up a buy order at .5 !


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: sadpandatech on November 11, 2011, 10:25:09 PM
that's up to you, really. wouldnt it be nice if a real "market" were to develop?
someone put up a buy order at .5 !

  I have to agree. Unless we know for certain the seller's intention here. We have to assume they are just there for 'test' purposes or some such.  I mean, unless they contacted you and said they needed to back out of their purchase.?


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 11, 2011, 10:31:47 PM
that's up to you, really. wouldnt it be nice if a real "market" were to develop?
someone put up a buy order at .5 !

  I have to agree. Unless we know for certain the seller's intention here. We have to assume they are just there for 'test' purposes or some such.  I mean, unless they contacted you and said they needed to back out of their purchase.?

Noone contacted me about this.

Also: it's now only 5 @0.99BTC left (15 previously), so either someone bought 10 (to be expected and hoped for) or (part of) the order was cancelled (also good)

Someone put up a sell order at 2 BTC, no harm.

I decided to not buy back.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 13, 2011, 02:37:21 PM
38% funded down from 40%, because some share reservations on PMF vanished :(. We made good most of that loss by a slightly risen exchange rate, though ;)


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 14, 2011, 09:38:30 AM
down to 35.59% funded due to lower exchange rate.

Please donate. Notice you will get your money back in case we don't reach 100% in time if you use GLBSE to donate (see previous post for instructions)


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Pra
Post by: freequant on November 15, 2011, 09:49:32 AM
Nice project. But are you sure that the guy at PMF is really Max Keiser?
Please make sure before you send the funds.

I'll donate 2000 LiteCoins if you can provide a LTC donation address (that's about BTC 13~15 at current exchange rate).
 


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Pra
Post by: molecular on November 15, 2011, 10:06:14 AM
Nice project. But are you sure that the guy at PMF is really Max Keiser?
Please make sure before you send the funds.

I'll donate 2000 LiteCoins if you can provide a LTC donation address (that's about BTC 13~15 at current exchange rate).
 

The Project Info on PMF says the following:

owner: rishey
producers: sherbert, rishey
executive producers: PMF Fund
directors: rishey
editors: rishey
cast: Max Keiser

I'm assuming (also the pics match): sherbert = Stacy Herbert, rishey might be Richard Bluestein.

Now, I know this is not proof. I twittered him about it, if this doesn't work, I'll mail him (max@maxkeiser.com). I've been in email contact with that address talking about making bitcoin payments directly to PMF.

Should he answer on twitter using @maxkeiser, we can be pretty sure it's him, right?

I'm happy to receive litecoin donations. However: I will convert these to BTC using btc-e.com pretty much immediately (trying not to crash the market, though). So in case we don't get to deliver our money to the Project, I might not be able to give you back the full amount of LTC you donated.

LTC donation address: LQoxjfjJWcWh3pNRVDJmaDHWBLoejju27X



Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Pra
Post by: freequant on November 15, 2011, 02:29:22 PM
I'm happy to receive litecoin donations. However: I will convert these to BTC using btc-e.com pretty much immediately (trying not to crash the market, though). So in case we don't get to deliver our money to the Project, I might not be able to give you back the full amount of LTC you donated.

LTC donation address: LQoxjfjJWcWh3pNRVDJmaDHWBLoejju27X
Sent LTC 2000 to the address above.
Tx id cbfd73a3adfbc1cd6e98976338b0dc070cd754a28f6d4d512f5fbd6801d95f2c (http://blockexplorer.sytes.net/tx/cbfd73a3adfbc1cd6e98976338b0dc070cd754a28f6d4d512f5fbd6801d95f2c)

Please report the BTC equivalent at the time of conversion.
If the project doesn't happen, you can return it as BTC to 15So2KKtcnBs7Vpx1TNcajSohba5ScoTSr


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Pra
Post by: molecular on November 15, 2011, 05:31:15 PM
I'm happy to receive litecoin donations. However: I will convert these to BTC using btc-e.com pretty much immediately (trying not to crash the market, though). So in case we don't get to deliver our money to the Project, I might not be able to give you back the full amount of LTC you donated.

LTC donation address: LQoxjfjJWcWh3pNRVDJmaDHWBLoejju27X
Sent LTC 2000 to the address above.
Tx id cbfd73a3adfbc1cd6e98976338b0dc070cd754a28f6d4d512f5fbd6801d95f2c (http://blockexplorer.sytes.net/tx/cbfd73a3adfbc1cd6e98976338b0dc070cd754a28f6d4d512f5fbd6801d95f2c)

Please report the BTC equivalent at the time of conversion.
If the project doesn't happen, you can return it as BTC to 15So2KKtcnBs7Vpx1TNcajSohba5ScoTSr

Thanks for your generous donation, freequant! I converted the 2000 LTC to BTC 12.03046289 as follows:

Quote
1) Sold 100 LTC by price 0.006101 BTC (total 0.6101 BTC -0.5%)
2) Sold 7.11581168 LTC by price 0.006101 BTC (total 0.04341356 BTC -0.5%)
3) Sold 500 LTC by price 0.0061 BTC (total 3.05 BTC -0.5%)
4) Sold 1392.88418832 LTC by price 0.00605 BTC (total 8.32694933 BTC -0.5%)

and sent them to the donation address (tx_id: a712cf26f5a6407530a99661170a66939ac302ae41cf0a5f2242d25307e3fed5)

I would've loved to wait for a better exchange rate, but didn't want to risk having to take an even lower one and since I said I would exchange "right away", I just did it.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Pra
Post by: coblee on November 15, 2011, 11:00:16 PM
Nice project. But are you sure that the guy at PMF is really Max Keiser?
Please make sure before you send the funds.

I'll donate 2000 LiteCoins if you can provide a LTC donation address (that's about BTC 13~15 at current exchange rate).

I will also donate 2000 litecoins. Thanks for organizing this.
http://explorer.liteco.in/tx/6f2c6659a94e3150cfd9fae6b9d6c6e09d52dc9e1f28b38cd40f2f503e81600f


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Pra
Post by: molecular on November 16, 2011, 12:43:54 AM
Nice project. But are you sure that the guy at PMF is really Max Keiser?
Please make sure before you send the funds.

I'll donate 2000 LiteCoins if you can provide a LTC donation address (that's about BTC 13~15 at current exchange rate).

I will also donate 2000 litecoins. Thanks for organizing this.
http://explorer.liteco.in/tx/6f2c6659a94e3150cfd9fae6b9d6c6e09d52dc9e1f28b38cd40f2f503e81600f

Awesome. The Litecoiners are being really supportive ;)

Quote
1) Sold 10.73603999 LTC by price 0.0061 BTC (total 0.06548984 BTC -0.5%)
2) Sold 250 LTC by price 0.0061 BTC (total 1.525 BTC -0.5%)
3) Sold 230 LTC by price 0.0061 BTC (total 1.403 BTC -0.5%)
4) Sold 1375.64854158 LTC by price 0.006053 BTC (total 8.32680062 BTC -0.5%)
5) Sold 133.61541843 LTC by price 0.006053 BTC (total 0.80877412 BTC -0.5%)

sum: 12.12906458, which I sent directly to the donation address, tx_id: d65929f5652f8bbac22039773476c8a61c62967bb2444401dfece54698968a36


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Pra
Post by: molecular on November 17, 2011, 09:44:56 PM
Nice project. But are you sure that the guy at PMF is really Max Keiser?
Please make sure before you send the funds.

I made pretty sure by asking Richard Bluestein, the director/editor of the film via email:

Quote from: molecular
thanks for your quick answer, let me add one more question that was asked by the bitcoin community:

 * are you sure it's really THE Max Keiser starring in the film?

he answered

Quote from: Richard Bluestein
Yes it absolutely is.

It says "Max Keiser" in the cast section of the project and Stacy Herbert is, together with Richard, producing: http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/291

Pease note: I reserved 5 shares of the film on PMF with our funds (don't have to pay at this point). That's the maximum I can reserve.

I asked Richard some more questions, he said he couldn't answer them and would ask Max and then get back to me.


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: memvola on November 19, 2011, 09:42:50 PM
Let's buy up these shares people...


Title: Re: GLBSE: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - fund Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 19, 2011, 10:20:58 PM
Let's buy up these shares people...


That's the spirit!


Title: Re: LAST CALL: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 22, 2011, 11:03:20 AM
So I'm leaving for Stuttgart tomorrow and from there I'll go to prague with a friend to visit the Bitcoin Conference.

Hopefully I can talk to Max there, he's been hard to reach via email.

Unfortunately GLBSE is frequently down so I'm having a hard time calling for the last round of donations.

I still don't know the deadline for funding the film.

We still have a chance to fund it. The needed sum might be lowered for a reason I cannot currently disclose, but I'm no sure it'll happen.

So, if you want this film made, see the first post on how to contribute some BTC (even without using GLBSE)




Title: Re: MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 24, 2011, 02:10:00 PM
So I will meet Richard Bluestein (the producer) and hopefully also Max and Stacy in Prague.

Will hopefully be able to answer all questions about the project after Prague.

Keep donating if glbse permits ;)


Title: Re: [37%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on November 28, 2011, 03:24:28 PM
so, I talked to Max Keiser briefly at the bitcoin conference in Prague (the conference was great).

I think it's now finally public info: piratemyfilm will be accepting BTC for payment of shares and they will start to pay dividends in Bitcoin, too.

I think this is great news.

The gust of my conversation with Max is that it is not possible to enable my account to reserve more than 5 shares. The background for this is that he wants to avoid few people to buy all of the shares.

I'm unsure what to do know, but suggest we wait for the "bitpay" buttons to actually appear on piratemyfilm.com. Currently I think the best route would now be to give you people back your bitcoins so you can buy shares of the project yourselves on piratemyfilm.com.

Stacey Herbert and Richard Bluestein where filming material for the project in Prague (at the conference and at the pub(s)). They interviewed Amir, for example, and of course filmed the panel discussiond and Max' talk about himself and PMF.

It seems Max is now officially a bitcoin supporter (see his recent tweets).

Thoughts?



Title: Re: [37%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: jtimon on November 28, 2011, 04:25:23 PM
I think he was already a bitcoin supporter, but maybe is more official now.
He's a great ally.


Title: Re: [37%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on December 04, 2011, 08:29:49 PM
It's payback time.

I'm aborting this operation and as promised will pay back (if possible and not wished for by donator otherwise) the money you guys donated.

For GLBSE it's simplest: I'll just pay back all the money received by IPO (41 BTC) as dividends... doing it now... done, divident payed: 41 BTC to 41 shares -> 1 BTC/share.

For the donation address it's harder. I said I would send people back their money if they request it, otherwise I will send the money to the bitcoin faucet, so please make your claims (here or via pm to molecular).

Should you want the money sent back to some other address, you must proove you are the owner of the address used to send the donation. You can do this as follows:

#> bitcoind signmessage <address used to send donation> "please pay back to address <new payback address>"

post the message and the signature that is output by above command here or via pm.

Here's a list of the donations and the status (will update this list):

  • 18SWbLBmFAnHQew74UyQrVPAnUMBaMByfz, BTC 100, donator requested I should "use the BTC to fund some other worthwhile Bitcoin-related cause of  your [my] choice"
  • 14ywF3yUndbD5D6SQdWYZS5upDmiJDrcMy, BTC 1, -> faucet
  • 1Fqog92mjEH22kdfjJthuLDoZBnhfR2mMW, BTC 3, -> faucet
  • 1EopQJtANU99WJKQXGMixkcTDX6P8AR5fi, BTC 0.25, -> faucet
  • 1PkufEVizwrnRQEz9zZgfH3kgXFRQLckRq: BTC 5, -> faucet
  • 1Jzd7HrhZ7jqnNn2vXAAz39exvX3zz8Tt: BTC 0.16, -> faucet
  • litecoin donation by frequant: BTC 12.0304629, payed back BTC: a78775ba912e8206a6ae6a651bda6c6d375e93b3ec94690bd093b1f9408be7ac
  • litecoin donation by coblee: BTC 12.129064, told me to consider the money a donation for my kicks-ass litecoin graphs, which I will put back up soon, EDIT: they're back (http://litecoin.kicks-ass.org/graphs/graphs.html)

I sent BTC 1 + 3 + 0.25 + 5 + 0.16 = BTC 9.41 to the faucets donation address 15VjRaDX9zpbA8LVnbrCAFzrVzN7ixHNsC. tx_id: 3310f4774209ddf17f9d7e1030bc0dd85da598d185f968e330a5423b90b0d0ff

you can verify via blockexplorer that this list is complete: http://blockexplorer.com/q/getreceivedbyaddress/1GhJ9QpShc9t1jWNgx8DX8nA44GYojHhE3. The sum is BTC 133.56952689

Thanks to all donators!

I'm pretty sure we played a sizeable part in Max Keisers relationship to Bitcoin and I'm more than confident that this will pay out some point early next year ;).



Title: Re: [>100%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on December 04, 2011, 08:44:16 PM
lol, the project is >100% funded

just read this on PMF:

Quote from: max
bitcoin prague is now 100% funded, but it makes sense to reserve some shares anyway to account for defaults. @rishey has all the footage

The funds needed for the project was reduced from $1,500 to $300. Probably because bit-pay.com payed their flights. Thanks bit-pay!

so: YAY! Look forward to a great film!


Title: Re: [37%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: teek on December 04, 2011, 10:15:49 PM
so, I talked to Max Keiser briefly at the bitcoin conference in Prague (the conference was great).

I think it's now finally public info: piratemyfilm will be accepting BTC for payment of shares and they will start to pay dividends in Bitcoin, too.

I think this is great news.

The gust of my conversation with Max is that it is not possible to enable my account to reserve more than 5 shares. The background for this is that he wants to avoid few people to buy all of the shares.

I'm unsure what to do know, but suggest we wait for the "bitpay" buttons to actually appear on piratemyfilm.com. Currently I think the best route would now be to give you people back your bitcoins so you can buy shares of the project yourselves on piratemyfilm.com.

Stacey Herbert and Richard Bluestein where filming material for the project in Prague (at the conference and at the pub(s)). They interviewed Amir, for example, and of course filmed the panel discussiond and Max' talk about himself and PMF.

It seems Max is now officially a bitcoin supporter (see his recent tweets).

Thoughts?



Didn't see this til now.  Wow piratemyfilm is taking bitcoins.. that's awesome.  Bump for more people to see this!



Title: Re: [37%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on December 04, 2011, 11:08:23 PM
Didn't see this til now.  Wow piratemyfilm is taking bitcoins.. that's awesome.  Bump for more people to see this!

Unfortunately not yet. It'll probably take a month.


Title: Re: [37%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: freequant on December 06, 2011, 02:26:48 PM
  • litecoin donation by frequant: BTC 12.0304629
You can send back to this address 15So2KKtcnBs7Vpx1TNcajSohba5ScoTSr.


Title: Re: [>100%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Dividends where payed -> issue worthless"
Post by: molecular on December 07, 2011, 12:16:01 AM
The "payback" dividend of 1 BTC has been made on 04/12/2011-21:29 as said in my last post.

I see people are trading MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm for 0.75 BTC.

To whoever is buying: you are buying a worthless issue. There will be no more dividend payments.


Title: Re: [>100%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Dividends where payed -> issue worthless"
Post by: ribuck on December 07, 2011, 11:10:15 AM
Thank you for organizing, promoting, and managing this fundraising, molecular.


Title: Re: [>100%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Dividends where payed -> issue worthless"
Post by: freequant on December 13, 2011, 01:15:42 PM
Molecular,

Can you please indicate how to claim the refund?
I have given you my Bitcoin address in this thread and by PM, but I haven't heard from you yet.

Thanks


Title: Re: [37%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Max Keisers Film "European Bitcoin - Prague"
Post by: molecular on December 13, 2011, 02:18:07 PM
  • litecoin donation by frequant: BTC 12.0304629
You can send back to this address 15So2KKtcnBs7Vpx1TNcajSohba5ScoTSr.


woops. I didn't require proof from you. But I think I remember you said here you would send litecoins and the 2K LTC popped up. So I just sent the BTC to the supplied address.

tx_id: a78775ba912e8206a6ae6a651bda6c6d375e93b3ec94690bd093b1f9408be7ac

sorry, I overlooked you msg before.

EDIT: I'm keeping track of payback in this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51133.msg640461#msg640461, which also contains claim instructions


Title: Re: [>100%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Dividends where payed -> issue worthless"
Post by: freequant on December 13, 2011, 02:31:06 PM
Got it. Thanks!


Title: Re: [>100%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Dividends where payed -> issue worthless"
Post by: molecular on December 18, 2011, 11:42:54 AM
Ok, last chance to reclaim your donations!

All unclaimed donations will be given to the bitcoin faucet Monday evening (GMT), unless donator requested otherwise.

Here is my post that explains how to claim:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51133.msg640461#msg640461


Title: Re: [>100%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Dividends where payed -> issue worthless"
Post by: molecular on December 24, 2011, 12:45:46 AM
I transferred the unclaimed donations (BTC 9.41) to the bitcoin faucets donation address.

3310f4774209ddf17f9d7e1030bc0dd85da598d185f968e330a5423b90b0d0ff

here's the overview of the money flow: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=51133.msg640461#msg640461

Thanks again for your participation!

Now lets wait for that film ;)


Title: Re: [>100%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Dividends where payed -> issue worthless"
Post by: jtimon on January 29, 2012, 02:24:28 PM
Now lets wait for that film ;)

Does it need more funds again?

Green Light:  Off
 69% (Today)

http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/291


Title: Re: [>100%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Dividends where payed -> issue worthless"
Post by: molecular on January 30, 2012, 12:04:23 AM
Now lets wait for that film ;)

Does it need more funds again?

Green Light:  Off
 69% (Today)

http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/291


thanks for the info.

:( also the topic changed to "Bitcoin Prague & Anti-ACTA Stockholm (EUROP)". mew.


Title: Re: [>100%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Dividends where payed -> issue worthless"
Post by: molecular on February 02, 2012, 04:43:39 PM
there's a new project listed on piratemyfilm

http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/304 : Screw Banks, Use Bitcoins

Max and Stacey introduced it in their newsletter on Jan 31st:

Quote from: Stacy Herbert
PirateMyfilm is one of these competitors hoping to hasten the demise of an increasingly hostile IP regime. No doubt Disney will soon issue a takedown notice claiming they own the rights to 'piracy' reserved for content specific to Johnny Depp in the Caribbean. As the internet is still free, however, I've just reserved shares in Screw Banks, Use Bitcoins because I'm very interested to see what Tony from Bitpay.com comes up with. I saw his presentation in Prague a few months ago and he actually got me set up with a tiny little bitcoin account. It was through his simple explanation and by the actual use of the bitcoins that I finally understood how simple and efficient it is to operate without the middleman getting in the way. In my mind, bitcoin is a great disintermediation play for online transactions. Hopefully, it will succeed. If not, that is how the free market works (currently available only online). You live or die by the quality of your service or product. Imagine that?

Lets hope piratemyfilm has a Bitcoin payment option soon.


Title: Re: [>100%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Dividends where payed -> issue worthless"
Post by: jtimon on February 02, 2012, 05:00:37 PM
:( also the topic changed to "Bitcoin Prague & Anti-ACTA Stockholm (EUROP)". mew.

So have you talked to them?
What happened with "Bitcoin Prague"?


Title: Re: [>100%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Dividends where payed -> issue worthless"
Post by: molecular on February 02, 2012, 08:15:21 PM
:( also the topic changed to "Bitcoin Prague & Anti-ACTA Stockholm (EUROP)". mew.

So have you talked to them?
What happened with "Bitcoin Prague"?


Read 2 posts above about what happened to "Bitcoin Prague". It was merged with another topic.

I haven't talked to them since Prague. The owner of the project is bit-pay. Bit-Pay is in contact with them, so maybe https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=31293 (user Bit-Pay Merchant Solutions) knows more. That's Tony Galippi of bit-pay. He's really nice. Should you ask him about it, be sure to post relevant info here.

I'm excited about these films, just don't currently have the time/energy to find out more.


Title: Re: [>100%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Dividends where payed -> issue worthless"
Post by: BitPay Business Solutions on February 02, 2012, 09:38:07 PM
:( also the topic changed to "Bitcoin Prague & Anti-ACTA Stockholm (EUROP)". mew.

So have you talked to them?
What happened with "Bitcoin Prague"?


Read 2 posts above about what happened to "Bitcoin Prague". It was merged with another topic.

I haven't talked to them since Prague. The owner of the project is bit-pay. Bit-Pay is in contact with them, so maybe https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=31293 (user Bit-Pay Merchant Solutions) knows more. That's Tony Galippi of bit-pay. He's really nice. Should you ask him about it, be sure to post relevant info here.

I'm excited about these films, just don't currently have the time/energy to find out more.


Its in the works.  Max's team is about 2 months behind.  They (just tihs week) finally started integrating Bit-Pay on the PMF website.  After that he is working on the dividend program.  The film is in the works, they are just way behind on everything.


Title: Re: [>100%] MAXKEISER.bitcoinfilm - Dividends where payed -> issue worthless"
Post by: molecular on February 29, 2012, 05:34:44 PM
In case you haven't seen the thread, piratemyfilm.com now accepts bitcoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=64802

Thanks Tony!

The Project mentioned in the thread (http://www.piratemyfilm.com/projects/304, Screw Banks - Use Bitcoin) seems to be funded already. It still makes sense to reserve shares, I guess, should people chicken out.