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Economy => Reputation => Topic started by: PryptoMontreal on February 25, 2019, 07:35:40 PM



Title: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: PryptoMontreal on February 25, 2019, 07:35:40 PM
Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597

This user didn't receive any sMerit in last 120 days and then on 21st February he posted a thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5112905 from his alt account (ChatBotv2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1191052)) and replied to it just as to transfer merit from one account to another.

Proofs :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2992228.msg30768770#msg30768770
This thread was started by a newbie (his 2nd post) and wilburwilbur +11 merited that post.

On 21st February, a new Bonus campaign was started by Steve (manager of Stake.com's signature campaign) to promote quality posts.
Quote
New Merit Contest! $175 in prizes!

To help promote high-quality posts I'd like to introduce the new Merit Mini Contest!
The top 3 people who earn the most merit this week will win 1 of 3 prizes

1st - $100
2nd - $50
3rd - $25

Merits earned in the section "Gambling" are worth 2x the points!
Absolutely no asking for merits. Just because your post has merits doesn't mean it qualifies for this bonus, the post quality must also be approved by us.

Seeing this, wilburwilbur "decided" to use his alt account to gain the 2x bonus by transferring merit to his account in a Gambling section post.

As per https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=ChatBotv2 (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=ChatBotv2) the account was active more than a year ago before this post. This certainly shows that it was a bad attempt to cheat the bonus campaign and merit abuse. I'd like the authorities to take suitable action against this.

Edit :- First post of ChatBotv2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1191052) was on [Free 0.0005] Stake.com - Simply play 5 games! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2240707.msg22631667#msg22631667) just around 90 seconds after the account was created. This is sufficient proof that account is an alt farmed/created to cheat giveaways and bonuses.

Edit :- He must've intentionally written a long paragraphed post so as to look like a deserving one for merits. Give a look at his posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597;sa=showPosts  ::)



Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597

The account you stated has a connected BTC address: 398v1JLr8nk87nPGinbTfFxYgHYdkxJaXT

Posted by wilburwilbur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597) here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3152979.msg32591529#msg32591529 (archive (https://archive.fo/BPRnB))

The interesting thing is, the same address was used by a hero member account 77kdub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459892) here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4453586.msg40047517#msg40047517 (archive (https://archive.fo/HM6np))



Above linking confirms that the account wilburwilbur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597) is an alt of 77kdub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459892) as they both use the same BTC address.

This takes us to the trust ratings of the 77kdub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459892) which says

Trust Rating by nullius (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=976210)
Code:
"Merit abuse. Sent +10 to known account seller #1800324 “CasinoExpert” for a post here quoted in full: 

“yo solo 1 vez al dia”

This, plus another similar +10 from another user, permitted “CasinoExpert” to accrue 10 sMerit and thus raise #1644102 “HumberWins” to Member rank. Details at reference link.

This feedback is made consistently with my trust feedback policy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3009256.0"

It looks like a similar merit abuse which was done by the same owner in the past here. And he has been doing this from much time now.

Accusation Link by nullius (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=976210):
Humber*, CasinoExpert, et al.: Alts, account sales, merit abuse, etc. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3066549.0)

As per I see an alt account of an red-trusted member should have a red trust rating to warn about the risk of trading.

https://i.imgur.com/j30iRm4.png


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: hacker1001101001 on February 26, 2019, 02:33:06 AM
Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597

The account you stated has a connected BTC address: 398v1JLr8nk87nPGinbTfFxYgHYdkxJaXT

Posted by wilburwilbur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597) here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3152979.msg32591529#msg32591529 (archive (https://archive.fo/BPRnB))

The interesting thing is, the same address was used by a hero member account 77kdub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459892) here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4453586.msg40047517#msg40047517 (archive (https://archive.fo/HM6np))



Above linking confirms that the account wilburwilbur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597) is an alt of 77kdub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459892) as they both use the same BTC address.

This takes us to the trust ratings of the 77kdub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459892) which says

Trust Rating by nullius (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=976210)
Code:
"Merit abuse. Sent +10 to known account seller #1800324 “CasinoExpert” for a post here quoted in full: 

“yo solo 1 vez al dia”

This, plus another similar +10 from another user, permitted “CasinoExpert” to accrue 10 sMerit and thus raise #1644102 “HumberWins” to Member rank. Details at reference link.

This feedback is made consistently with my trust feedback policy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3009256.0"

It looks like a similar merit abuse which was done by the same owner in the past here. And he has been doing this from much time now.

Accusation Link by nullius (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=976210):
Humber*, CasinoExpert, et al.: Alts, account sales, merit abuse, etc. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3066549.0)

As per I see an alt account of an red-trusted member should have a red trust rating to warn about the risk of trading.


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: Avirunes on February 26, 2019, 02:47:31 AM
Quote
...replied to it just as to transfer merit from one account to another.

Can you quote the part of post where he said that.


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: PryptoMontreal on February 26, 2019, 03:09:03 AM
Quote
...replied to it just as to transfer merit from one account to another.

Can you quote the part of post where he said that.
I suspect this to be the case and all the proofs support my suspicions, he obviously won't self-admit of abusing merit system.

-snip-
Nice find! I'll be posting this over here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574) so that someone can tag his account.


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: SteveStake on February 26, 2019, 09:25:28 PM
PryptoMontreal forgot to post this thread showing the merit being given from ChatBotv2

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5112905

Wilbur, I have to kick you out of the campaign unless you can post a rebuttal to counter this. I won't discuss in PM until we have an answer here for everyone.


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: wilburwilbur on February 26, 2019, 09:51:17 PM
Lol why do people always makes dirty things just to kick out people from a competition. If you ever wanted that prize then you can get it. I dont mind, but then again provide a solid proof that i cheated. I saw chatbotv2 once in a gambling site. He's a highroller there. I doubt he/he remembers me. If steve decided to let me stay, Im still going to continue to be in sig campaign, if not then, oh well nothing i can. I never asked for a merit to chatbotv2 that is for sure. And dont let someone who is trying to leave his career to gambling into this issue just because of a change.


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: PryptoMontreal on February 26, 2019, 10:06:16 PM
Lol why do people always makes dirty things just to kick out people from a competition. If you ever wanted that prize then you can get it. I dont mind, but then again provide a solid proof that i cheated. I saw chatbotv2 once in a gambling site. He's a highroller there. I doubt he/he remembers me. If steve decided to let me stay, Im still going to continue to be in sig campaign, if not then, oh well nothing i can. I never asked for a merit to chatbotv2 that is for sure. And dont let someone who is trying to leave his career to gambling into this issue just because of a change.
Alright, much of philosophy. I will keep it simple, how do you defend the fact that you are not connected to  77kdub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459892)?

Edit :- Oh I see, so ChatBotv2 came back to the forum after an year just to transfer you some merit and right after sending you merit (02:08:06 PM) he again went back to an exile  ::) [Last active 02:09:41 PM) : https://archive.fo/RHlUb#selection-347.19-347.30 (https://archive.fo/RHlUb#selection-347.19-347.30)

Such a nice friend



Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: wilburwilbur on February 26, 2019, 10:14:12 PM
As addition,
I am self sufficient my own, i play when i feels like. Ill give my reason for joining this campaign. I have been going to stake since the beginning. I liked stake and i like the people there. That's why even if im a member in this forum i decided to participate even tho my post is 2000 sats per post which is not profitable at all. I have a job on my own. Im lucky enough this past few months and earned a quite sum of money.
Example: http://prnt.sc/mqkgkf
The middle above is my balance atm. And the bet was made few weeks ago, just few of the bets that i can find. Some are hidden among many bets. I can provide more
If ever this post made me a negative user then steve might kick me out, but let me keep this signature that's all i ask. Stake where i play most of time is the site i want to promote.


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: wilburwilbur on February 26, 2019, 10:16:37 PM
Lol why do people always makes dirty things just to kick out people from a competition. If you ever wanted that prize then you can get it. I dont mind, but then again provide a solid proof that i cheated. I saw chatbotv2 once in a gambling site. He's a highroller there. I doubt he/he remembers me. If steve decided to let me stay, Im still going to continue to be in sig campaign, if not then, oh well nothing i can. I never asked for a merit to chatbotv2 that is for sure. And dont let someone who is trying to leave his career to gambling into this issue just because of a change.
Alright, much of philosophy. I will keep it simple, how do you defend the fact that you are not connected to  77kdub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459892)?

Edit :- Oh I see, so ChatBotv2 came back to the forum after an year just to transfer you some merit and right after sending you merit (02:08:06 PM) he again went back to an exile  ::) [Last active 02:09:41 PM) : https://archive.fo/RHlUb#selection-347.19-347.30 (https://archive.fo/RHlUb#selection-347.19-347.30)

Such a nice friend


Okay let's go to dub. 77kdub is my friend from stake and bitvest,a gambler too, is it okay to mention sites?
We are friends and still friends. She is always around stake and bitvest most of the time. Sorry if my english is bad, not my forte but im trying.


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: wilburwilbur on February 26, 2019, 10:21:32 PM
Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597

This user didn't receive any sMerit in last 120 days and then on 21st February he posted a thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5112905 from his alt account (ChatBotv2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1191052)) and replied to it just as to transfer merit from one account to another.

Proofs :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2992228.msg30768770#msg30768770
This thread was started by a newbie (his 2nd post) and wilburwilbur +11 merited that post.

On 21st February, a new Bonus campaign was started by Steve (manager of Stake.com's signature campaign) to promote quality posts.
Quote
New Merit Contest! $175 in prizes!

To help promote high-quality posts I'd like to introduce the new Merit Mini Contest!
The top 3 people who earn the most merit this week will win 1 of 3 prizes

1st - $100
2nd - $50
3rd - $25

Merits earned in the section "Gambling" are worth 2x the points!
Absolutely no asking for merits. Just because your post has merits doesn't mean it qualifies for this bonus, the post quality must also be approved by us.

Seeing this, wilburwilbur "decided" to use his alt account to gain the 2x bonus by transferring merit to his account in a Gambling section post.

As per https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=ChatBotv2 (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=ChatBotv2) the account was active more than a year ago before this post. This certainly shows that it was a bad attempt to cheat the bonus campaign and merit abuse. I'd like the authorities to take suitable action against this.

Edit :- First post of ChatBotv2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1191052) was on [Free 0.0005] Stake.com - Simply play 5 games! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2240707.msg22631667#msg22631667) just around 90 seconds after the account was created. This is sufficient proof that account is an alt farmed/created to cheat giveaways and bonuses.

Edit :- He must've intentionally written a long paragraphed post so as to look like a deserving one for merits. Give a look at his posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597;sa=showPosts  ::)



Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597

The account you stated has a connected BTC address: 398v1JLr8nk87nPGinbTfFxYgHYdkxJaXT

Posted by wilburwilbur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597) here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3152979.msg32591529#msg32591529 (archive (https://archive.fo/BPRnB))

The interesting thing is, the same address was used by a hero member account 77kdub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459892) here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4453586.msg40047517#msg40047517 (archive (https://archive.fo/HM6np))



Above linking confirms that the account wilburwilbur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597) is an alt of 77kdub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459892) as they both use the same BTC address.

This takes us to the trust ratings of the 77kdub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459892) which says

Trust Rating by nullius (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=976210)
Code:
"Merit abuse. Sent +10 to known account seller #1800324 “CasinoExpert” for a post here quoted in full: 

“yo solo 1 vez al dia”

This, plus another similar +10 from another user, permitted “CasinoExpert” to accrue 10 sMerit and thus raise #1644102 “HumberWins” to Member rank. Details at reference link.

This feedback is made consistently with my trust feedback policy:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3009256.0"

It looks like a similar merit abuse which was done by the same owner in the past here. And he has been doing this from much time now.

Accusation Link by nullius (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=976210):
Humber*, CasinoExpert, et al.: Alts, account sales, merit abuse, etc. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3066549.0)

As per I see an alt account of an red-trusted member should have a red trust rating to warn about the risk of trading.
Im so sorry man. If you really want to win, you should have said it or maybe if you really need the prize should tell it to the telegram.
You posting this, an internal dispute, you shouldve told it first to our group before doing this. I feel pity to you :( maybe because you need it really?

P.S. I never meant to talk bad to anyone, i just dont know how to put it in words. If only i can get a translation hehe
P.S.S. chatbotv2 is a pinoy, a government employee. That is the only thing i knew about him. I knew which department he is.


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: PryptoMontreal on February 26, 2019, 10:35:16 PM
even tho my post is 2000 sats per post which is not profitable at all. I have a job on my own.
2000 sats per post isn't profitable so you decided to bring in your another alt for abusing the bonus.

Okay let's go to dub. 77kdub is my friend from stake and bitvest,a gambler too, is it okay to mention sites?
We are friends and still friends. She is always around stake and bitvest most of the time. Sorry if my english is bad, not my forte but im trying.
So you say that 77kdub is a friend of yours? She is such a nice friend that she decided to use your bitcoin address for signature campaign payouts xD

Proof :
Quote
The account you stated has a connected BTC address: 398v1JLr8nk87nPGinbTfFxYgHYdkxJaXT

Posted by wilburwilbur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597) here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3152979.msg32591529#msg32591529 (archive (https://archive.fo/BPRnB))

The interesting thing is, the same address was used by a hero member account 77kdub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459892) here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4453586.msg40047517#msg40047517 (archive (https://archive.fo/HM6np))

Stop posting baseless arguments and acting cute by "sympathy" replies :P


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: PryptoMontreal on February 26, 2019, 10:39:44 PM
Another interesting thing I found out :-

Both wilburwilbur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597) and ChatBotv2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1191052) accounts were created on the same day "October 6, 2017" with a gap of 2 hours.
Dude, stop giving lame arguments in your defence already. I wonder why you haven't been tagged by a DT2 member yet.


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: wilburwilbur on February 26, 2019, 10:45:36 PM
Sighh those who are surely persuading this topic is a wearing a stake sig campaign lol if you ever want to kick me out okay fine. It's all good. I, wilburwilbur, officially signing off. That was a good time.
Another interesting thing I found out :-

Both wilburwilbur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597) and ChatBotv2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1191052) accounts were created on the same day "October 6, 2017" with a gap of 2 hours.
Dude, stop giving lame arguments in your defence already. I wonder why you haven't been tagged by a DT2 member yet.
Yep. If you dig more that is because stake has given 0.0005 each to every stake user and someone shared it on chat so i created an account. Chatbot is around at that time too chatting. He didnt like stake tho.
Aite, that's it :)
Thank you guys. You won.


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: wilburwilbur on February 26, 2019, 10:48:08 PM
even tho my post is 2000 sats per post which is not profitable at all. I have a job on my own.
2000 sats per post isn't profitable so you decided to bring in your another alt for abusing the bonus.

Okay let's go to dub. 77kdub is my friend from stake and bitvest,a gambler too, is it okay to mention sites?
We are friends and still friends. She is always around stake and bitvest most of the time. Sorry if my english is bad, not my forte but im trying.
So you say that 77kdub is a friend of yours? She is such a nice friend that she decided to use your bitcoin address for signature campaign payouts xD

Proof :
Quote
The account you stated has a connected BTC address: 398v1JLr8nk87nPGinbTfFxYgHYdkxJaXT

Posted by wilburwilbur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597) here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3152979.msg32591529#msg32591529 (archive (https://archive.fo/BPRnB))

The interesting thing is, the same address was used by a hero member account 77kdub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459892) here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4453586.msg40047517#msg40047517 (archive (https://archive.fo/HM6np))

Stop posting baseless arguments and acting cute by "sympathy" replies :P
Try to visit sometimes. We can chat, both of us. 77kdub and wilbur, yes 2k sats isnt that profitable, because in stake forum if i post i will get 15k sats, 3 sats per reply. Which can be profitable if that is what you are doing all day. Ez moneey

Do i look cute with that sympathy replies? Yieeee ill try it to someone else. Maybe it's my time to get a girlfriend haha

P.S. i dont like arguments that's why im signing off.


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: PryptoMontreal on February 26, 2019, 10:55:07 PM
List of Merits received by wilburwilbur

https://i.imgur.com/j30iRm4.png

26 of 33 Merits received by this user are from his suspected alts. All these facts support my suspicion :)


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: wilburwilbur on February 26, 2019, 10:59:03 PM
List of Merits received by wilburwilbur

https://i.imgur.com/j30iRm4.png

26 of 33 Merits received by this user are from his suspected alts. All these facts support my suspicion :)
Hahaha okay okay. Since you mentioned eldrin then you can ask him right on. He's our moderator
And the others are players of stake, they're a migrant.
And this would my last comment. Since i signed off.
But can i ask what's your username in stake? Since we need it to the campaign? Maybe i can be friends with you there.
See yah bud.
And my statements are not baseless. I was just explaining what was the event in your proof.
Last question. Why did you made a post like this? For the betterment of the community or for -1 competitor and a +1 merit?
Now it's your time to be true. Aite aite. See you man


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: coinlocket$ on February 26, 2019, 11:26:10 PM
Seems a case of abusing need to dig more, even if wilburwilbur and 77kdub seem to be alts they seem to haven't abuse.

Can you explain why you are using the same address?


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: TryNinja on February 26, 2019, 11:27:17 PM
Seems a case of abusing need to dig more, even if wilburwilbur and 77kdub seem to be alts they seem to haven't abuse.

Can you explain why you are using the same address?
They gave each other merit... if they are alts, how is that not abuse?


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: coinlocket$ on February 26, 2019, 11:33:48 PM
Seems a case of abusing need to dig more, even if wilburwilbur and 77kdub seem to be alts they seem to haven't abuse.

Can you explain why you are using the same address?
They gave each other merit... if they are alts, how is that not abuse?

Missed that part, digging more. I had read only the merit with Chatbotv2.


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: PryptoMontreal on February 26, 2019, 11:42:23 PM
Seems a case of abusing need to dig more, even if wilburwilbur and 77kdub seem to be alts they seem to haven't abuse.

Can you explain why you are using the same address?
They gave each other merit... if they are alts, how is that not abuse?

Missed that part, digging more. I had read only the merit with Chatbotv2.
Moreover, 77kdub was tagged for sending merit to an account/merit seller. Seems like multiple accounts are being farmed by him. I have posted most of the information I could dig out. Will investigate further to find out any other alts connected to this!


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: wilburwilbur on February 26, 2019, 11:51:08 PM
Good luck guys. All i ask is a fair judgement. That's all
Bye bye


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: coinlocket$ on February 27, 2019, 12:03:47 AM
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=77kdub



3G6t3M7tzz2KTDNAMSQEPfEXpeTdXJgTas   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5050824.msg47298603#msg47298603   http://archive.fo/Q99xc   
155D3ijDSUQGeYf2MpJqnY69EYyoxgLKmg   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1633979.msg40414418#msg40414418   http://archive.fo/66NLX   
1G6RLoSNwNzJyzEdwFWH9X5ZZsHFqiDM2b   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4453586.msg40166444#msg40166444   http://archive.fo/WnsAF   
398v1JLr8nk87nPGinbTfFxYgHYdkxJaXT   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4453586.msg40047517#msg40047517   http://archive.fo/HM6np   
1PUNzugw4BEmNjPpFaCNc9obktspwFrk3g   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2432049.msg25043321#msg25043321   http://archive.fo/D2Lga   
16zTBwcWQhwEyfkJ1b65CagfxgBNLMqkJG   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1696189.msg17068396#msg17068396   http://archive.fo/guKSc   
3QAA1nYQ8tuevgNBr5sxU6spsHyZx1NRuC   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1639938.msg16503318#msg16503318   http://archive.fo/zzn82   
1D3tcQHQawf8UJJrTDWnADCKzw7f1kmFRe   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1602397.msg16106288#msg16106288   http://archive.fo/t3l1d   
3LPKEPxvxywRYP6rm6GkxSdAkGHRiMAieX   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1574127.msg15807230#msg15807230   http://archive.fo/zgE4G   
1LqrM1NriXcXsDUjf63pqrn61227VEL9NN   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1514710.msg15285983#msg15285983   http://archive.fo/Dri7s   

This account should be investigate too for potential abusing, he is autobanned as others probable alts so no need to archive his posts. https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=oracleongoodbye
   

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3B71DGiDh2s49nauofR3gxP9V8GKp64Z6U   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2349397.msg39107418#msg39107418
33Yx1YJJKw4hbwtaQnDKThauWPZbviHDKg   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1935179.msg34724416#msg34724416
1Km2fir6rPtkTPU7Q6nvthxJZ1gpgFmzoV   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2275651.msg23091285#msg23091285
16L48eP4kYq3iR6pmrYE3uGkw38uZedRue   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2059435.msg20652781#msg20652781
1LRU4xdZjmD6jBTYfxQGcT4s9H81U2dA9r   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1696189.msg17055536#msg17055536
38N5xzbgBNoLzvHigR92UhkPrFnLwKD36n    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1692756.msg16985199#msg16985199
16VViiqRswTCBpZdZRGmxqrfkeWro42dF1   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1602397.msg16105764#msg16105764
14Zeex2D5VmxT8XJALdJm1EHKvds2U1ahP   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1584340.msg15915457#msg15915457

Catch up 2morrow. time for bed here. I probably going to tag him for "tried to exploiting a bonus signature"


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: morantis2015 on February 27, 2019, 12:08:01 AM
I am not on anyone's side here and I'm not here to defend one person or another but one thing that I did notice Is that the trust On 77dub could be a retaliation for trust complaints against that member, there are only two negative marks and both from the same person.  There is no real control over the trust system here, just neg and pos from one person to another with rare moments of corection, as i said, not here for anyone's side, just something i  noticed


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: TryNinja on February 27, 2019, 12:08:14 AM
Hm... just saw that 77kdub was actually already neg tagged by nulius for being an alt of Humber* and CasinoExpert - which we discovered to be true at the same time. Those are old scammers/abusers.

Maybe they are really alts? wilburwilbur = 77kdub = Humber* = CasinoExpert = ...?

I am not on anyone's side here and I'm not here to defend one person or another but one thing that I did notice Is that the trust On 77dub could be a retaliation for trust complaints against that member, there are only two negative marks and both from the same person.  There is no real control over the trust system here, just neg and pos from one person to another with rare moments of corection, as i said, not here for anyone's side, just something i  noticed
The only retaliation trust there is 77dub's neg trust on nulius.


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: morantis2015 on February 27, 2019, 12:15:38 AM
Hm... just saw that 77kdub was actually already neg tagged by nulius for being an alt of Humber* and CasinoExpert - which we discovered to be true at the same time. Those are old scammers/abusers.

Maybe they are really alts? wilburwilbur = 77kdub = Humber* = CasinoExpert = ...?

I am not on anyone's side here and I'm not here to defend one person or another but one thing that I did notice Is that the trust On 77dub could be a retaliation for trust complaints against that member, there are only two negative marks and both from the same person.  There is no real control over the trust system here, just neg and pos from one person to another with rare moments of corection, as i said, not here for anyone's side, just something i  noticed
The only retaliation trust there is 77dub's neg trust on nulius.

maybe i misread it, if so, my mistake, doing thirty things at one time and still at office, sorry if i mis-spoke


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: PryptoMontreal on February 27, 2019, 12:43:14 AM
This account should be investigate too for potential abusing, he is autobanned as others probable alts so no need to archive his posts. https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=oracleongoodbye
   
3B71DGiDh2s49nauofR3gxP9V8GKp64Z6U   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2349397.msg39107418#msg39107418
33Yx1YJJKw4hbwtaQnDKThauWPZbviHDKg   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1935179.msg34724416#msg34724416
1Km2fir6rPtkTPU7Q6nvthxJZ1gpgFmzoV   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2275651.msg23091285#msg23091285
16L48eP4kYq3iR6pmrYE3uGkw38uZedRue   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2059435.msg20652781#msg20652781
1LRU4xdZjmD6jBTYfxQGcT4s9H81U2dA9r   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1696189.msg17055536#msg17055536
38N5xzbgBNoLzvHigR92UhkPrFnLwKD36n    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1692756.msg16985199#msg16985199
16VViiqRswTCBpZdZRGmxqrfkeWro42dF1   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1602397.msg16105764#msg16105764
14Zeex2D5VmxT8XJALdJm1EHKvds2U1ahP   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1584340.msg15915457#msg15915457


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1Km2fir6rPtkTPU7Q6nvthxJZ1gpgFmzoV   https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2275651.msg23091285#msg23091285

This address is attached to :
ProGamerJojo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=962916)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1596878.msg22543089#msg22543089 (https://archive.fo/UU0De#selection-6431.17-6431.51 (https://archive.fo/UU0De#selection-6431.17-6431.51))

and

TheWinnerBro (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1004646)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2242190.msg22642634#msg22642634 (https://archive.fo/v1Cad#selection-593.89-593.123 (https://archive.fo/v1Cad#selection-593.89-593.123))

There's a post here regarding this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2785997.0

Hm... just saw that 77kdub was actually already neg tagged by nulius for being an alt of Humber* and CasinoExpert - which we discovered to be true at the same time. Those are old scammers/abusers.

Maybe they are really alts? wilburwilbur = 77kdub = Humber* = CasinoExpert = ...?
How about wilburwilbur = 77kdub = Humber* = CasinoExpert =?? TheWinnerBro = ProGamerJojo =  oracleongoodbye


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: 77kdub on February 27, 2019, 05:19:15 PM
wow I'm sorry you have nothing better to do with your time then to try and play detective which I find amusing.  it's obvious you've spent a lot of time on this and where has it gotten you?  What have you accomplished?  Nothing from what I can see.  If you really are that ignorant to conclude that I am a an alt of Humber & that Wilbur is also one of many alts you're a idiot.  I know exactly who Humber is & I also know & am friends with Wilbur.  As for your far fetched theory about the merit thing,  Yes I sent those merit. I looked all over this forum for guidance on how to use those merit and the only thing it said was if you don't use them they will just go to waste so give them away.  There were know guide lines or rules as to who or what for.  You need to get your facts straight before you go pointing fingers and making false accusations based on your assumptions.  I hope you feel accomplished in all the wasted time you've invested in this little investigation you've committed your self too.  P.S. get a life for god sake


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: PryptoMontreal on February 27, 2019, 05:24:22 PM
I looked all over this forum for guidance on how to use those merit and the only thing it said was if you don't use them they will just go to waste so give them away.
Guess we should stop sending merits to Satoshi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1582324). Such a waste   :'(

Catch up 2morrow. time for bed here. I probably going to tag him for "tried to exploiting a bonus signature"
The user hasn't been tagged yet.


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: coinlocket$ on February 27, 2019, 05:58:49 PM
wow I'm sorry you have nothing better to do with your time then to try and play detective which I find amusing.  it's obvious you've spent a lot of time on this and where has it gotten you?  What have you accomplished?  Nothing from what I can see.  If you really are that ignorant to conclude that I am a an alt of Humber & that Wilbur is also one of many alts you're a idiot.  I know exactly who Humber is & I also know & am friends with Wilbur.  As for your far fetched theory about the merit thing,  Yes I sent those merit. I looked all over this forum for guidance on how to use those merit and the only thing it said was if you don't use them they will just go to waste so give them away.  There were know guide lines or rules as to who or what for.  You need to get your facts straight before you go pointing fingers and making false accusations based on your assumptions.  I hope you feel accomplished in all the wasted time you've invested in this little investigation you've committed your self too.  P.S. get a life for god sake

Still none of your "friends"explained why you used the same address on differents campaigns.  ::)


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: 77kdub on February 28, 2019, 10:41:53 AM
wow I'm sorry you have nothing better to do with your time then to try and play detective which I find amusing.  it's obvious you've spent a lot of time on this and where has it gotten you?  What have you accomplished?  Nothing from what I can see.  If you really are that ignorant to conclude that I am a an alt of Humber & that Wilbur is also one of many alts you're a idiot.  I know exactly who Humber is & I also know & am friends with Wilbur.  As for your far fetched theory about the merit thing,  Yes I sent those merit. I looked all over this forum for guidance on how to use those merit and the only thing it said was if you don't use them they will just go to waste so give them away.  There were know guide lines or rules as to who or what for.  You need to get your facts straight before you go pointing fingers and making false accusations based on your assumptions.  I hope you feel accomplished in all the wasted time you've invested in this little investigation you've committed your self too.  P.S. get a life for god sake

Still none of your "friends"explained why you used the same address on differents campaigns.  ::)


so you are basing this on the fact that my self & wilbur used the same address on different campaigns?  I really don't see how that is anybody's concern or business as to what address I have my payments sent to, is it?  Did I miss something in the fine print stating that you can dictate how I spend or where my payments are sent?  I understand there are many people out there trying to abuse the system but I guarantee you that's not me.  I'm still trying to figure out how you can possibly conclude that I am the alt of those other users you've listed based on the fact I gave them merit.  Seems to me like this community has a very biased & poorly structured system when it comes to "tagging" users as system abusers.  basically I'm a victim of "guilty by association" as is wilbur in my opinion.  Humber is the guy you should be blacklisting, as I'm sure those are all his alts. 


Title: Re: Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur
Post by: SteveStake on February 28, 2019, 11:17:21 AM
Turns out PryptoMontreal cheated on the merit contest as well and has been kicked

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5113678.msg49892964#msg49892964

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5032885


Display name on Telegram is AlanTuring and already admitted this account is an alt

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1503216