Merit Abuse by wilburwilbur

[PryptoMontreal]

Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597

This user didn't receive any sMerit in last 120 days and then on 21st February he posted a thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5112905 from his alt account (ChatBotv2) and replied to it just as to transfer merit from one account to another.

Proofs :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2992228.msg30768770#msg30768770
This thread was started by a newbie (his 2nd post) and wilburwilbur +11 merited that post.

On 21st February, a new Bonus campaign was started by Steve (manager of Stake.com's signature campaign) to promote quality posts.

New Merit Contest! $175 in prizes!

To help promote high-quality posts I'd like to introduce the new Merit Mini Contest!
The top 3 people who earn the most merit this week will win 1 of 3 prizes

1st - $100
2nd - $50
3rd - $25

Merits earned in the section "Gambling" are worth 2x the points!
Absolutely no asking for merits. Just because your post has merits doesn't mean it qualifies for this bonus, the post quality must also be approved by us.

Seeing this, wilburwilbur "decided" to use his alt account to gain the 2x bonus by transferring merit to his account in a Gambling section post.

As per https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=ChatBotv2 the account was active more than a year ago before this post. This certainly shows that it was a bad attempt to cheat the bonus campaign and merit abuse. I'd like the authorities to take suitable action against this.

Edit :- First post of ChatBotv2 was on [Free 0.0005] Stake.com - Simply play 5 games! just around 90 seconds after the account was created. This is sufficient proof that account is an alt farmed/created to cheat giveaways and bonuses.

Edit :- He must've intentionally written a long paragraphed post so as to look like a deserving one for merits. Give a look at his posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597;sa=showPosts  

Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597

The account you stated has a connected BTC address: 398v1JLr8nk87nPGinbTfFxYgHYdkxJaXT

Posted by wilburwilbur here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3152979.msg32591529#msg32591529 (archive)

The interesting thing is, the same address was used by a hero member account 77kdub here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4453586.msg40047517#msg40047517 (archive)


Above linking confirms that the account wilburwilbur is an alt of 77kdub as they both use the same BTC address.

This takes us to the trust ratings of the 77kdub which says

Trust Rating by nullius

Code:

"Merit abuse. Sent +10 to known account seller #1800324 “CasinoExpert” for a post here quoted in full: 

“yo solo 1 vez al dia” 

This, plus another similar +10 from another user, permitted “CasinoExpert” to accrue 10 sMerit and thus raise #1644102 “HumberWins” to Member rank. Details at reference link. 

This feedback is made consistently with my trust feedback policy: 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3009256.0"

It looks like a similar merit abuse which was done by the same owner in the past here. And he has been doing this from much time now.

Accusation Link by nullius:
Humber*, CasinoExpert, et al.: Alts, account sales, merit abuse, etc.
As per I see an alt account of an red-trusted member should have a red trust rating to warn about the risk of trading.

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[hacker1001101001]

Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597

The account you stated has a connected BTC address: 398v1JLr8nk87nPGinbTfFxYgHYdkxJaXT

Posted by wilburwilbur here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3152979.msg32591529#msg32591529 (archive)

The interesting thing is, the same address was used by a hero member account 77kdub here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4453586.msg40047517#msg40047517 (archive)


Above linking confirms that the account wilburwilbur is an alt of 77kdub as they both use the same BTC address.

This takes us to the trust ratings of the 77kdub which says

Trust Rating by nullius

Code:

"Merit abuse. Sent +10 to known account seller #1800324 “CasinoExpert” for a post here quoted in full: 

“yo solo 1 vez al dia” 

This, plus another similar +10 from another user, permitted “CasinoExpert” to accrue 10 sMerit and thus raise #1644102 “HumberWins” to Member rank. Details at reference link. 

This feedback is made consistently with my trust feedback policy: 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3009256.0"

It looks like a similar merit abuse which was done by the same owner in the past here. And he has been doing this from much time now.

Accusation Link by nullius:
Humber*, CasinoExpert, et al.: Alts, account sales, merit abuse, etc.
As per I see an alt account of an red-trusted member should have a red trust rating to warn about the risk of trading.

[Avirunes]

...replied to it just as to transfer merit from one account to another.

Can you quote the part of post where he said that.

[PryptoMontreal]

...replied to it just as to transfer merit from one account to another.

Can you quote the part of post where he said that.

I suspect this to be the case and all the proofs support my suspicions, he obviously won't self-admit of abusing merit system.

-snip-

Nice find! I'll be posting this over here so that someone can tag his account.

[SteveStake]

PryptoMontreal forgot to post this thread showing the merit being given from ChatBotv2

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5112905

Wilbur, I have to kick you out of the campaign unless you can post a rebuttal to counter this. I won't discuss in PM until we have an answer here for everyone.

[wilburwilbur]

Lol why do people always makes dirty things just to kick out people from a competition. If you ever wanted that prize then you can get it. I dont mind, but then again provide a solid proof that i cheated. I saw chatbotv2 once in a gambling site. He's a highroller there. I doubt he/he remembers me. If steve decided to let me stay, Im still going to continue to be in sig campaign, if not then, oh well nothing i can. I never asked for a merit to chatbotv2 that is for sure. And dont let someone who is trying to leave his career to gambling into this issue just because of a change.

[PryptoMontreal]

Lol why do people always makes dirty things just to kick out people from a competition. If you ever wanted that prize then you can get it. I dont mind, but then again provide a solid proof that i cheated. I saw chatbotv2 once in a gambling site. He's a highroller there. I doubt he/he remembers me. If steve decided to let me stay, Im still going to continue to be in sig campaign, if not then, oh well nothing i can. I never asked for a merit to chatbotv2 that is for sure. And dont let someone who is trying to leave his career to gambling into this issue just because of a change.

Alright, much of philosophy. I will keep it simple, how do you defend the fact that you are not connected to 77kdub?

Edit :- Oh I see, so ChatBotv2 came back to the forum after an year just to transfer you some merit and right after sending you merit (02:08:06 PM) he again went back to an exile   [Last active 02:09:41 PM) : https://archive.fo/RHlUb#selection-347.19-347.30

Such a nice friend

[wilburwilbur]

As addition,
I am self sufficient my own, i play when i feels like. Ill give my reason for joining this campaign. I have been going to stake since the beginning. I liked stake and i like the people there. That's why even if im a member in this forum i decided to participate even tho my post is 2000 sats per post which is not profitable at all. I have a job on my own. Im lucky enough this past few months and earned a quite sum of money.
Example: http://prnt.sc/mqkgkf
The middle above is my balance atm. And the bet was made few weeks ago, just few of the bets that i can find. Some are hidden among many bets. I can provide more
If ever this post made me a negative user then steve might kick me out, but let me keep this signature that's all i ask. Stake where i play most of time is the site i want to promote.

[wilburwilbur]

Lol why do people always makes dirty things just to kick out people from a competition. If you ever wanted that prize then you can get it. I dont mind, but then again provide a solid proof that i cheated. I saw chatbotv2 once in a gambling site. He's a highroller there. I doubt he/he remembers me. If steve decided to let me stay, Im still going to continue to be in sig campaign, if not then, oh well nothing i can. I never asked for a merit to chatbotv2 that is for sure. And dont let someone who is trying to leave his career to gambling into this issue just because of a change.

Alright, much of philosophy. I will keep it simple, how do you defend the fact that you are not connected to 77kdub?

Edit :- Oh I see, so ChatBotv2 came back to the forum after an year just to transfer you some merit and right after sending you merit (02:08:06 PM) he again went back to an exile   [Last active 02:09:41 PM) : https://archive.fo/RHlUb#selection-347.19-347.30

Such a nice friend

Okay let's go to dub. 77kdub is my friend from stake and bitvest,a gambler too, is it okay to mention sites?
We are friends and still friends. She is always around stake and bitvest most of the time. Sorry if my english is bad, not my forte but im trying.

[wilburwilbur]

Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597

This user didn't receive any sMerit in last 120 days and then on 21st February he posted a thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5112905 from his alt account (ChatBotv2) and replied to it just as to transfer merit from one account to another.

Proofs :

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2992228.msg30768770#msg30768770
This thread was started by a newbie (his 2nd post) and wilburwilbur +11 merited that post.

On 21st February, a new Bonus campaign was started by Steve (manager of Stake.com's signature campaign) to promote quality posts.

New Merit Contest! $175 in prizes!

To help promote high-quality posts I'd like to introduce the new Merit Mini Contest!
The top 3 people who earn the most merit this week will win 1 of 3 prizes

1st - $100
2nd - $50
3rd - $25

Merits earned in the section "Gambling" are worth 2x the points!
Absolutely no asking for merits. Just because your post has merits doesn't mean it qualifies for this bonus, the post quality must also be approved by us.

Seeing this, wilburwilbur "decided" to use his alt account to gain the 2x bonus by transferring merit to his account in a Gambling section post.

As per https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=ChatBotv2 the account was active more than a year ago before this post. This certainly shows that it was a bad attempt to cheat the bonus campaign and merit abuse. I'd like the authorities to take suitable action against this.

Edit :- First post of ChatBotv2 was on [Free 0.0005] Stake.com - Simply play 5 games! just around 90 seconds after the account was created. This is sufficient proof that account is an alt farmed/created to cheat giveaways and bonuses.

Edit :- He must've intentionally written a long paragraphed post so as to look like a deserving one for merits. Give a look at his posts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597;sa=showPosts  

Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597

The account you stated has a connected BTC address: 398v1JLr8nk87nPGinbTfFxYgHYdkxJaXT

Posted by wilburwilbur here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3152979.msg32591529#msg32591529 (archive)

The interesting thing is, the same address was used by a hero member account 77kdub here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4453586.msg40047517#msg40047517 (archive)


Above linking confirms that the account wilburwilbur is an alt of 77kdub as they both use the same BTC address.

This takes us to the trust ratings of the 77kdub which says

Trust Rating by nullius

Code:

"Merit abuse. Sent +10 to known account seller #1800324 “CasinoExpert” for a post here quoted in full: 

“yo solo 1 vez al dia” 

This, plus another similar +10 from another user, permitted “CasinoExpert” to accrue 10 sMerit and thus raise #1644102 “HumberWins” to Member rank. Details at reference link. 

This feedback is made consistently with my trust feedback policy: 
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3009256.0"

It looks like a similar merit abuse which was done by the same owner in the past here. And he has been doing this from much time now.

Accusation Link by nullius:
Humber*, CasinoExpert, et al.: Alts, account sales, merit abuse, etc.
As per I see an alt account of an red-trusted member should have a red trust rating to warn about the risk of trading.

Im so sorry man. If you really want to win, you should have said it or maybe if you really need the prize should tell it to the telegram.
You posting this, an internal dispute, you shouldve told it first to our group before doing this. I feel pity to you maybe because you need it really?

P.S. I never meant to talk bad to anyone, i just dont know how to put it in words. If only i can get a translation hehe
P.S.S. chatbotv2 is a pinoy, a government employee. That is the only thing i knew about him. I knew which department he is.

[PryptoMontreal]

even tho my post is 2000 sats per post which is not profitable at all. I have a job on my own.

2000 sats per post isn't profitable so you decided to bring in your another alt for abusing the bonus.

Okay let's go to dub. 77kdub is my friend from stake and bitvest,a gambler too, is it okay to mention sites?
We are friends and still friends. She is always around stake and bitvest most of the time. Sorry if my english is bad, not my forte but im trying.

So you say that 77kdub is a friend of yours? She is such a nice friend that she decided to use your bitcoin address for signature campaign payouts xD

Proof :

The account you stated has a connected BTC address: 398v1JLr8nk87nPGinbTfFxYgHYdkxJaXT

Posted by wilburwilbur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597) here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3152979.msg32591529#msg32591529 (archive (https://archive.fo/BPRnB))

The interesting thing is, the same address was used by a hero member account 77kdub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459892) here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4453586.msg40047517#msg40047517 (archive (https://archive.fo/HM6np))

Stop posting baseless arguments and acting cute by "sympathy" replies

[PryptoMontreal]

Another interesting thing I found out :-

Both wilburwilbur and ChatBotv2 accounts were created on the same day "October 6, 2017" with a gap of 2 hours.
Dude, stop giving lame arguments in your defence already. I wonder why you haven't been tagged by a DT2 member yet.

[wilburwilbur]

Sighh those who are surely persuading this topic is a wearing a stake sig campaign lol if you ever want to kick me out okay fine. It's all good. I, wilburwilbur, officially signing off. That was a good time.

Another interesting thing I found out :-

Both wilburwilbur and ChatBotv2 accounts were created on the same day "October 6, 2017" with a gap of 2 hours.
Dude, stop giving lame arguments in your defence already. I wonder why you haven't been tagged by a DT2 member yet.

Yep. If you dig more that is because stake has given 0.0005 each to every stake user and someone shared it on chat so i created an account. Chatbot is around at that time too chatting. He didnt like stake tho.
Aite, that's it
Thank you guys. You won.

[wilburwilbur]

even tho my post is 2000 sats per post which is not profitable at all. I have a job on my own.

2000 sats per post isn't profitable so you decided to bring in your another alt for abusing the bonus.

Okay let's go to dub. 77kdub is my friend from stake and bitvest,a gambler too, is it okay to mention sites?
We are friends and still friends. She is always around stake and bitvest most of the time. Sorry if my english is bad, not my forte but im trying.

So you say that 77kdub is a friend of yours? She is such a nice friend that she decided to use your bitcoin address for signature campaign payouts xD

Proof :

The account you stated has a connected BTC address: 398v1JLr8nk87nPGinbTfFxYgHYdkxJaXT

Posted by wilburwilbur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1190597) here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3152979.msg32591529#msg32591529 (archive (https://archive.fo/BPRnB))

The interesting thing is, the same address was used by a hero member account 77kdub (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459892) here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4453586.msg40047517#msg40047517 (archive (https://archive.fo/HM6np))

Stop posting baseless arguments and acting cute by "sympathy" replies

Try to visit sometimes. We can chat, both of us. 77kdub and wilbur, yes 2k sats isnt that profitable, because in stake forum if i post i will get 15k sats, 3 sats per reply. Which can be profitable if that is what you are doing all day. Ez moneey

Do i look cute with that sympathy replies? Yieeee ill try it to someone else. Maybe it's my time to get a girlfriend haha

P.S. i dont like arguments that's why im signing off.

[PryptoMontreal]

List of Merits received by wilburwilbur



26 of 33 Merits received by this user are from his suspected alts. All these facts support my suspicion

[wilburwilbur]

List of Merits received by wilburwilbur



26 of 33 Merits received by this user are from his suspected alts. All these facts support my suspicion

Hahaha okay okay. Since you mentioned eldrin then you can ask him right on. He's our moderator
And the others are players of stake, they're a migrant.
And this would my last comment. Since i signed off.
But can i ask what's your username in stake? Since we need it to the campaign? Maybe i can be friends with you there.
See yah bud.
And my statements are not baseless. I was just explaining what was the event in your proof.
Last question. Why did you made a post like this? For the betterment of the community or for -1 competitor and a +1 merit?
Now it's your time to be true. Aite aite. See you man

[coinlocket$]

Seems a case of abusing need to dig more, even if wilburwilbur and 77kdub seem to be alts they seem to haven't abuse.

Can you explain why you are using the same address?

[TryNinja]

Seems a case of abusing need to dig more, even if wilburwilbur and 77kdub seem to be alts they seem to haven't abuse.

Can you explain why you are using the same address?

They gave each other merit... if they are alts, how is that not abuse?

[coinlocket$]

Seems a case of abusing need to dig more, even if wilburwilbur and 77kdub seem to be alts they seem to haven't abuse.

Can you explain why you are using the same address?

They gave each other merit... if they are alts, how is that not abuse?

Missed that part, digging more. I had read only the merit with Chatbotv2.

[PryptoMontreal]

Seems a case of abusing need to dig more, even if wilburwilbur and 77kdub seem to be alts they seem to haven't abuse.

Can you explain why you are using the same address?

They gave each other merit... if they are alts, how is that not abuse?

Missed that part, digging more. I had read only the merit with Chatbotv2.

Moreover, 77kdub was tagged for sending merit to an account/merit seller. Seems like multiple accounts are being farmed by him. I have posted most of the information I could dig out. Will investigate further to find out any other alts connected to this!