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What is your take on new tokens with unnecessarily large ICO prices? Scam or Genuine?

With such prices, their ICO usually takes a lot of time and people still invest, is there a possibility of it being a good project because I just stumbled on one now with with current ICO price of $2.74 and they intend on increasing it in the future

You can not say if the project is real or if it is a scam, looking only at a price.
Developers tend to think that a lower price and a larger total supply is easier to sell and later, after completing the ICO, to raise the price on the market in an easier way.But the price really does not matter much and it all depends on the project itself and its developers.

I will never try to take an ico which put a big price for each token, it's not worth. You should remember how good that ico can be determined through the development progress and the demand for such ico and it's not from the price.

Why not shared here the specific ICO you have stumbled so we can check it ourself to tell you what is our views on the said project?
For me scammers will scam you even if the price of ICO is cheaper or if higher because they are planned to victimizing and not to bring profit.
Just make sure that you checked their whitepaper and roadmap,and most specialists the legitimacy of each Team Members so the chance of being scammed is lessen

Increase prices don't attract expert investors no matter how good whitepaper you offer to investors. I am not a big fan of huge prices but small marketcap with lower circulation can change my opinion depending on the project.

Just looking at the price is not a good measure to understand if a project is a scam or not. However, when the price is unnecessarily high, I usually stay away, since the market is still bearish and a dump at the listing it's more likely.

What's that project that you are stumbling to invest right now?

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I'm not interested anymore with those tokens that are coming in to the market. It's totally crowded and most of the new tokens doesn't have anything to offer but just the same thing as the old crypto's are offering.

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It sound cheap at their ICO price but you may not know if that price will go lower after it's listed on exchanges.

I agree, price isn't the factor why after the ico will gain much price to go further for its development. The adoption of the ico products is the most important in order for the people to have confidence in holding it for long journey. It doesn't matter how long, but most importantly you knew how the roadmap works until you decided to dump what you need for finances.

ICO price is not an issue because that depends on the total supply.
Just know more about the team if they can deliver, and if you trust them then you should invest on their project.
We have a lot of project in the past that even has an ICO price of over $100 and yet they are still in the market now.

Just take a look at  Primalbase Token (PBT) (https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/primalbase/#markets), price now is even below ICO price.

it all depends on what project will be developed, if indeed the project requires expensive token prices, why not?
because there are also projects with expensive ICO prices that are successful at ICO and success in the market
Jinbi $7 ICO Price and see in market now the Price is $11 https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/jinbi-token/

That is depend on so many factor. The price also been assigned based on total supply, token allocations, and many more parameters. For me, I prefer low price ICO than expensive since I cant afford yo buy in bulk for high price ICO plus in terms of trading it easier to buy a cheaper tokens than expensive right. Not all trader are rich that can buy millions of tokens. So better to pick the low price ICOs.

Do you mean ICOs with a high hardcap? In my opinion, the cap doesn't matter hugely - what matters is demand relative to supply. Any coin that reaches only a tiny fraction of hardcap looks weak. If an ICO sells $1.8m and hardcap was $2m, then it looks good, almost sold out - but an ICO that sells $1.8m against a hardcap of $50m looks like a complete failure.
Equally too big a gap between softcap (the minimum they need to start the project) and hardcap raises concerns. If they only need $1m to start the project, but set a hardcap of $50m, you have to ask if there is any reason for this other than greed.

Because of this it is incumbent on the team to set  realistic soft and hard caps.

You can not conclude the legitimacy of ICOs based on its token price and one more thing higher price of coins doesn't mean that their token sale will take longer time. Now a days ICOs with very small token price are also facing problems to raise the funds take example of azbit their token price is only 0.00012$ but they are struggling to raise the funds. Take consideration of other things also such as do they have working product, how they are working on community development, what target market they are trying to disrupt, team members and advisors this points also matter.

It is either a good project or is it just being hyped to attract investors, ICO these days were so hard to trust especially the dev and the team because they were the one who will initiate the scam attempt. But if it is a project with a potential that could benefit investors and the community and will have a small marketcap then it must be the right price for their project.

Some other factor is that what if they don't have enough funds to continue the project that's why they have to increase the price to use the money of the investors? It is too risky in both sides between investors and the team.

Even cheap ICO price coins turn out to be a scam, so I guess ICO price is not really a basis whether a project is a scam or not. However, it still depends if the price is really too far from reality, then most likely it is a scam. We all know that ICO since 2017 had failed a lot, which contributed to the price fall of ethereum. The market had also killed ICO, that is why some coins had taken their time on developing and some failed and died due to lack of budget.

With the ICO pricing we cannot conclude the legitimacy of the project. There are projects that have got increased ico price, but the same have private investors. This makes the project successful in the market. So, the pricing doesn't let one predict the worthiness of the project. Even with low ico price coins more scams happening around.

ICO with big prices(bigger than 100 mill) IMHO wouldn't go to zero, or go much lower ICO price. But they already have great capitalization and can't go much more higher than 200-300% from ICO.

Price of ico that has a high value in my opinion it will never be big success we see now the low price ico coins are still confused in raising funds especially those who have high/expensive value
everyone will think 10 times for investing there

I really don't understand what your intention is. But I think the price of ICO will not matter, important is their supply.
You don't even say which project it is and I can't check it for you. Please update your article so that people can make their thoughts easier. ;)

You can not define whether a project is good or not, or even a scam by their ICO price. It does not matter how high is the price if Investors determine an ICO has good vision, has awesome whitepaper then the investor will buy it. The same as does not matter how cheap is the price if the project is trash, I don't think any investors will be interested in the ICO.
So, if you want to ask opinion about a certain ICO, you can't just provide the price, at least give the name of your Crypto. Other than that, $2.74 is pretty expensive for an ICO, but if they have low minimum purchase, I will still buy it, only if the project is really good.

as far as i know it always depends if it has a genuine team behind  and it's not about the good information of project,  wherein it's about how good the project is and the specific goals of the team.  .

By the way what project you are talking about?  Can you elaborate more?

If you want to see a good ICO, don't look at the price, because you can't see whether or not ICO is good from the price of the coin, the one who made the coin is a good project from the coin, and the team behind it.

I don't know what kind of ICO will charge up to $2 for making purchase of tokens, maybe they are doing it so that just small amount of persons will make purchase of the coins thereby driving the price up to 1000% profit. Though the reverse might be the case, how can i buy a coin that is not yet listed on exchange for $2 when i don't know what the worth would be once it hits the exchange, even ethereum was way cheaper.

The huge price of token or coin during ICO doesn't proof the project to be scam and I have seen alot of project which ICO price per token are even up to $7 and the project is doing well despite the status of this current market. However,  most high price ICO are project that have to do with precious metals  or expensive substances but concept of the project and experienced of the team involve must up to the task.

That's right because the price can cheat because there are already a lot of high ICO prices and in the end if the ICO has finished the price is immediately destroyed, so don't ever see the price but from the development of the ICO

The fact is that the future prospects of each project depends not only on the company's results, because the team must work on the quality of development towards its creation. I would like to recall such a project as pundix, which even with a falling cryptocurrency market showed quite good results and continues to develop its business line.

I think ICO prices tend to have a genuine scam or effect. the most influential is the concept of the project and teamwork, does the project have a potentially good concept in the future? Does the team have good competence and work ethic to develop the project? I think that kind of thing has a big effect on the future of a coin.

Usually, prices depends also to the total supply of a certain token. If there is massive supply then the price is low basically. What project by the way you are trying to invest with?

You have to be careful, because the prices should not be so high, you may be placing the high tokens to raise money much faster, check the whitepaper, your equipment and all the necessary investigations ... But if the supply of general tokens are few, other conditions would have to be studied.

You don't rush to decide to join, it's better to check again. Because this does not guarantee that the project is real. You must see the appearance of the Website, Team, Developer, and the activeness of their social media. You must be careful because there are many fake ICO projects now.

It's probably not the offer price you should focus on but what the startup can deliver in terms of product (MVP), ecosystem and transparency because there are not many ICO's on the market now that have much potential to return any profits to investors so be careful and always do your own research

The coin I'm talking about is coincasso https://coincasso.io (https://coincasso.io)

I don't know even know if the project is worth the price so I'm just going to join the bounty campaign just in case

Well the price of the coin doesn't matter much and what people should take note is the total marketcap of the total coin
You can have coins that is $0.01, seems cheap? But with 10B supply VS a coin that is $1 but with 1M supply

Coin price doesn't define much but the whole capitalization, yes
However, judging from most case where if their coins is selling at an ICO price of $0.01 or lesser with 1B supply, it is acceptable because it is at 10M marketcap (Still consider high if you compare to real business, who on the earth can get a valuation of $10M with no production, no business but just a "coin"?)

An ICO with such a price should be ready to offer the best product worth more than the price. It might not be a scam ICO, but given the market situation it will be impossible to maintain the price after listing. Expect heavy dump upon exchange listing.

2.74$ ICO price is really massive and also i think it's unnecessary if we considering current ico market condition. If you say that specifically which project you talking about that. Whatever 2.74$ price never every can't survive i mean it will be never worth after when listing or reach exchange. People invested in ICO that's why still a lot of project in the marketplace at this moment.                       

it seems we have to be more careful by choosing ICO, the price is quite high. because the high ICO does not necessarily guarantee its success. so we don't immediately trust the emerging ICO and give a high enough price

That is too much for a new coin and a scam scenario is possible so we should be careful on choosing ICO’s. Some ICO before are also expensive but that is the time when ICO’s are in a good position, but this time they are not so better to wait for that coin on the exchange if they succeed for sure it will become more cheap.

I think much better to study everything about the project we want to invest because it's hard to determine if the project will boom if their token goes to market because many things are need to consider. And many things will be happen that you cannot expect. So if that project have solid determination and solid team it may go to success.

The people creating these prices still think that we are in a bull market where people are happy to throw their coins around. Time to be more realistic otherwise they won't attract any investors or have any hope of going near the softcap

Maybe the developer are being confident about their project and that is why they set a huge price but i think its hard to attract investors with that price. Its too risky to invest on ICO, this year is not the year of ICO so if you’re investors try to limit your time with those ico and instead invest on the top coins.

I never heard that before and it looks a bit fishy to me after seeing it right now dude. that will become the next shitty coin, lack of demand and its crowdsale raised little penny from the market and that's it.

What do you mean with high token price? It always boils down on how is the total supply of a coin. There can be a high price per coin, but when total supply is low it can be justified. Bitcoin has also only a few coins and price is very high.

True, it's always based on the total supply, which means if the the supply is high coins has a low value or vise versa.
What newbie would notice most of the time is only the price, they would not look at the total supply, and that's why high supply coins are so attractive to them as they think they were able to buy it cheap.

XRP for example, it's billions in supply.

Right now it is very rare that there are ico that can make the price high enough even to be able to arrive at the price of ico alone many fail because the bonus is quite large when a private sale or pre-sale makes it difficult to get up

the trust of new upcoming ICO will not be prepared by lots of people because they are still in trouble with the ICO investment so if you are thinking about people will accept it takes time but you not talk with you still waiting to get the prophet also.

I did not trust this now for the ICO but maybe I will love it again because mosyly ICO is scam and not gives to you high profit compared to the last few years. We cannot know what ICO is good to invest and not even the huge price ICO we cannot determine that if that is legit or scam. Only we can know it once the ICO end and if the token release to the market or maybe not and that's time the time can find your answer.

ICOs like this may have very good vision, great plans but when investors and hunters get their tokens, they dump them seriously. They might not necessarily be scam

with the price of 2.74$ for me is doubtful, it is too high compare on the other ICO that ranges a dollar of less and with the basis for the success of the ICO is not on the price so you better look for the other investment you can put some investment there but dont expect that the price will reach that high after listing.

Well, it is not about the price but the project itself and the capital involved or required to run such project.

Sometimes it could be that the particular crypto currency is limited in supply while the demand is already high before the ICO, thereby making the ICO price high already.

The most important aspect you should not overlook before investing in an ICO is to look through their whitepaper first, this could help you determine if the project is viable with strong team base before investing in it and not just by price.

Just don't invest on any new projects,the prices are nothing but predicted by the team so if their intention is scam then this can let them to set high prices.

I am not sure about what project your are talking about,if you can name it then people may find it for you it is worth or not to.

ICOs should determine their token sale price based on the utility of the token or the type of equity of offers, if it's a security token.
As a prospective investor, you should analyse the token economics and product to determine if the token sale price is worth the actual utility of the tokens.

Most projects are not subject to any regulatory laws, it's up to you to protect your own investments

I have actually see some ICOs in the past that started their Initial Coin offering at a very high price, looking at MAKER, in fact their ICO price was as high as 24 usd looking at their historical data on coin market price and now they are presently on 663 which has even gone low compared to the high price it had around April last year.

So, it’s not about the price but the project itself. If you see that most ICO don’t even enter exchange till after ICO and if we based it on high price before ICO, we might really missed lots of viable projects to invest in.

Nowadays many peoples are thinking the good return in token investment. But reality few projects only succeed in crypto platform so most are moving to downward and some scam projects also possible in this market. If you they have good crypto knowledge ICO participation is right move but beginners are never trying move this way.

Before investing in an ICO, thorough study on the ICO is really appreciated. Either the ICO price is much higher or cheaper, the product should speak out louder. Hence, checkout their product's details, how the product is accepted and have demands in the market, how amount of offers they provide the the customers, the advertisements, amount invested and the strength of the team members and their profiles, how long they into the market and if they have infrastructure in hand. If you are confident on they growth after studying the above, yes you can very well invest even if the ICO price is huge.

I have also seen that some ICOs are keeping tokens price very high. Few I have seen token price of $1 per token. Really don't understand on what basis they decided such huge price of tokens.
I do not invest in such projects generally.

Why would price matter, only market cap does? What if they only produced only 3 tokens, $2.74 would be pretty cheap, don't you think?

Have some sense, is there any project till date that have produced only three tokens. It isn't the market cap, initially the price matters big. Upon the value of the token there will be changes in the marketcap growth. Nowhere the marketcap grows all of the sudden.

The price is only a reflection of how much is needed by the team to develop the project. This is invariably reflected in the token supply dynamics.What should be more of interest is the project viability and team handling it.

it's not just a matter of funds needed by the team. they have really considered the feasibility of the price and suitability of the available supply. Team feasibility must be considered and the ability to manage the supply of available tokens will affect the price of tokens in the market.

We have a new way that will prevent the scam ico. It much better to follow the ico which will be launched through use the trusted exchange site's launch pad. You must remember if this will become an interesting thing in the future consider ICO must have passed a lot of requirements to be listed on it.

 I usually won't invest in ICO projects that sell tokens at public sale. it's bad projects and its prices will definitely fall after being listed on the exchange.
I only venture, buy at a high price on tokens that have a large community and have good partners. eg BTT or FET.

I don't think that's the right term there, maybe low volume coins can be done or introduce like that, with an amazing concept that will bring something huge after the ico success, but in the other side it's also risky as the market can be manipulated due to this volume issue, whales can easily dictates the momentum and the directions of such project.

Be very careful placing your investment, if you have doubts better to research more before taking your entry.

I can't even get what are you talking about. I knew that OP was trying to get the answer about the impact of the price of ico to the potential to the ico itself. High ico price is too risky for me personally. Total value will not give you any clue.

I would certainly understand where the developers take the starting price for their coins. On the basis of But it will be possible to understand the possibilities of this project. If we take for example the coins of wi-fi World, then they were really very much overestimated.

I see this kind of ICO are you using this strategy to make more,if the prices are really high when the token pool is huge then it is a project need to be avoided.

I think the investment and then you ICO tokens will be not good at this situation Cause when comparing to the previous year the value of any ICO is will not be get into a good position that's why I am saying this.

Trusting the new projects again will be like taking a huge risk again and ready to invest with riskiest desicion so I don't take such things to manage my losses and I am waiting to make decisions with the  flow of current situation.

ICO tokens are worthless without a proper roadmap and working product, so paying high amounts are unnecessary for this reason. Teams need money to continue doing their job as hired professionals but it is very hard to have the same achievement during blood bath on the market.

Even today most icos are asking for too much money to try to develop their projects, satoshi did not asked anyone for money when he was developing bitcoin and he delivered a functional currency, most icos today do not even take the time to write their own white paper and do not have any new ideas to try to make the market to move forward, so paying any price other than zero for most coins is a mistake since you are paying too much for something that is not worth anything.

The high ICO price does not guarantee, the ICO will be successful, because the success or failure of the ICO depends on whether or not the ICO project is good, and if the project is good even though the ICO price is cheap, of course the coin price will rise.

Developer over confidence existing in every ico project. Because token price is actually depend on the supply and demand. How much your project will be effective role in the real life that's the main factor. Just unnecessarily and bullshit ico price never survive in the dip market. I have seen many project when coming in the market price was 10x because project was legit.                   

You call it high when the price is above ICO price, some investors don't understand, they tend to judge with the price alone not checking it's ICO price.
The price is also based on the total supply and this information is necessary for an investors to know.

When most of them does not even have passion for whatever project they believe they are developing, a lot of them sees ICOs now as money making scheme and engage the innocent investors without having a brilliant ideas on how to move the project forward.

But, I fault investors that are gullible enough to commit their hard earned money because I don’t think someone that suffered to get his or her money would open his eyes wide without studying a project and researching on them very well before investing.

I agree that investors are in part to blame for what it is happening and that is because they have a similar vision to the developers of most projects, they are not really interested in the technology they are only looking for profits and while there is nothing wrong with that this means they are not really looking at the merits of a project when they invest, they are only interested in how fast the project in which they invested can attract more investors but if the project has no quality eventually no more money will be invested in the coin and then it will crash and it will never recover as the developers abandon the project.

I do not particularly like large ICOs because most end up raising a lot of money for situations that they would not normally need and eventually reducing their growth margin.

You are correct, many look at icos that have gathered a huge amount of money with amazement but that only means that during the short term that coin will not do very well since almost everyone that was interested in buying that coin already did so there will be very few buyers once that coin hits the market, not only that when it comes to businesses bigger is not always better since the devs could develop bad practices just because they feel in a strong position thanks to the money they gathered and do not concentrate in using their resources efficiently.

that's true and Jinbi reaching $47 million at ICO, this is a remarkable achievement, especially with the current poor market conditions.
and yes the current price is at a level above the ICO price, but you can see the demand in the market is very low.

https://www.livecoin.net/en/trading/JNB_BTC
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I really dont like coins with ICOs huge prices because what happen at the end of the day is that prices get seriously slashed and you can easily lose money as an investors especially if coins are not evenly distributed so you have to watch distribution and number of coins/tokens supply

indeed basically the current situation is very detrimental. because the number of ICOs that appear and sometimes that makes us really take a high risk. because the current situation is certainly different from the past, which is always good and not at high risk.

You think so too right? I felt the same way about it the day I set eyes on the project but for the sake of doubt, I decided to run their bounty program, just in case

Actually, I was always attracted by the question of where such prices come from during an ico company. Did the team themselves invent them, does not have any binding to anything. K I think that those high prices for coins that the developers say are no more than a hoax. The fact is that investors are forced to invest at the price of ico companies, while after listing prices fall 10 or even more times.

it is very risky to buy ICO at a high price, because a few months ago there were also companies in the electricity sector that were actually issuing ICO projects at a price that was also quite expensive and after they finished they did not develop even more but they have entered several exchanges, and one projects with expensive ICO prices after finishing their sales are not included in any exchange and the dev is always silent I'm also released from their telegram group.

Yes, I think ICO is very good because it has high selling value. But you still need to be vigilant and try checking the ICO. And if the coin has entered the exchange market, the coin will only decrease slightly. But after that the price will rise again.

it it about, coins supply.
for example maker. there is only 1M maker nd it is price 600 dollar.
mixin is same too there are 400k mixin only and it is 150 dollar.

dont look only price, look total value.

I did not even find the token reaching the ICO price after being registered on the exchange.
except for the popular IEO at this time, maybe this method is better than ICO.
The IEO provides good news for investors by promising a profitable market.
we'll see if the ICO will survive.

Actually price of any token during ICO is depended on the total supply of the token. Generally, I have seen from 2017 to at this moment that If any token has a total supply less than or equal as  [21 000 000] price was during ico about 1 $. And for [1 000 000 000 ] token supply ICO price was about 1-4 cent. So according to my experience want to say if any coin has 2.74$ price during ICO then the token supply should be less than [21 000 000]. Thanks

ICO discredited itself! The last year showed that more than 90% of the ICO was a Scam. Now playing tokens that were released 2-3 years ago and are still developing. I would advise you to pay attention to these altcoins.

And that is the issue, the developers set fixed prices for something that has no value yet because they have not written a single line of code so it is obvious most coins will crash after the ico by that fact alone, if they let the market decide what will be the price of their coins by just dividing the coins among the investors depending on their contribution to the project without any bonuses to early investors then the chances the price of that coin will go down after the ico is low since the market was the one that decided the value of the project before it even began.

depends on the project how the development progresses the current fact that the price of ico is only a benchmark and is not proven when the first market listing , the price can be equivalent to ICO

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I completely agree with you and it seems to me that based on what you said, an investor does not make sense to invest in new projects.  They really much more profitable to buy coins on the stock exchange.  The line is large enough that new projects will have no future prospects.

On all the projects that are flying around and as an investor you would really have confusion on which project you would invest.
If you are aware on the history of ICO scams for sure you would lose up confidence on throwing up money to support these projects.
This is why most of them failed and even the good ones have dragged down too.

Well most of ICO fail and who create ICO try to get as much as they can and put high prices for coins, i hope there will be only new projects on IEO or ICO who can do something and have a value, and not projects just to be made.

According to my observation, the price of large tokens depends on the size and strategic planning of the developer. Therefore, the small or large ICOS token is not related to fraud. But the ability to succeed from value ICOS copper which is completely different. When the crypto market is not good at issuing high price token, it will be difficult to attract investors.

Most probably you had a point price is important but we need to consedired the support of the dev and team behind for contnuing the project success. To encourage people to invest in the project.

Since the rampant fraud in the form of ICO, I no longer followed ICO-based investments. I know, not all ICO projects commit fraud. However, we do not know how the project is going forward so I prefer to stop participating in ICO-shaped investments. Moreover, the new coin from an ICO project is labeled at a fairly large price and the possibility for the scam is also very large.

People will not blatantly invest in the scam project and that's the fact about the crypto right now. The price can't be determined as a very strong indicator to determine if the team is legit or not.
The team is really important because the trusted team can bring FOMO.

Investing in the ICO project does have a very high level of risk. That is because not all ICO projects can make success in their projects and even many projects that commit fraud. This cannot be denied because we should have the ability, we are required to have good knowledge in carrying out the analysis in order to be able to make and choose the right ICO project in investing.

its depends on what kind of ICO project itself mate
so, you need to learn carefully about the project first, before investing
maybe the causes why the crowdsale price is huge, usually because the project have a low supply my friend

Well if the ICO takes a huge price and still sold out, that's mean investor trust the ICO and the project.

I think new coins with a huge ICO price is fine if they really do their job seriously. Also it's depend on the investor though, if they invest on that kind of ICO, then it will be fine.

I have Bought an ICO and IEO.
IEO better than because have exchange and ICO have not exchange before developer send them proposal to exchange. when customer sell all ICO bought on exchange price wiill be down on time. this happen when they developer not attention for investor for not sell and hold for along time

Are you hearing yourself? I don't think that you understand the definition of the "price". Definition of the market capitalization was made for the very purpose of valuation. Why would it matter how many "full coins" you even own with 18 decimals behind them?

Having an example of 3 tokens doesn't work because it would be just impossible to use as a currency. That sounds more like a collectable, and those should be non-fungible anyway.

I do not even understand where the developers initially take prices for their projects.  If there is already a certain product, then you can calculate the cost of the coin, plus a percentage of popularity and demand.  But initially the price is very high for many projects.  And then after the listing, projects generally fall in price and coins are sold ten times cheaper.

It is upon the idea of the ICO. If they have real heavy content after crowdfunding or before it. You could have invest on it. We need to take responsibility on reading the whitepaper, team information, product basis and technical paper.

If you completely worm around the ICO you can choose whether is worthy to invest such ICO or not.

I think you wanted to say huge fund raising. Because there price can be huge, but only few tokens in total, and the price may small buy 100 billions tokens. Of course, projects which are raising 100 mln usd or so not worth to invest. They are raising money for own islands.

It is not necessary that the price of the ICO is high to be a scam project, There are many projects that offer the price of the ICO is low and yet it is a scam, The project is good when the site reinforce and clarify the main points of the whitepaper and the project must have a team with sufficient experience to make this type of project successful and when the whitepaper contains all the details of the project and the technical details of how to achieve that goals, In my opinion there are many points that you should take care of to evaluate the project rather than the price of ICO.

It is one of the biggest ICO problems that they have big total supply and high price. That means a big market cappitalization after listing which is unrealistic for recently created cryptocurrencies.  ::)

I think good or not a project cannot be seen from the cheap or expensive initial price of the token / coin, because there are also many projects that have expensive but successful token prices on the market, and vice versa the price of cheap tokens is destroyed in the market

expensive prices on ICO projects are not an indicator that the project is a scam, we can see from the total supply of coins they spend.
if it still makes sense when converted to FIAT currency and in accordance with a similar ICO project then it does not have to be a matter of suspicion.

Of course, I believe that people always understand that high ICO prices are not always a scam, many projects are still very successful and still very good even if the price in the ICO is very high but that's just a trend in the past when the market is still very developed and very few scams. The current market is a reversal, a lot of scams and the market situation is not too good, high prices in the ICO period are a frightening thing for investors when a lot of similar projects are listed, the price listed is significantly reduced compared to the price of ico, so new coin with high ico price is not a welcome thing right now

There is no question that IEO can better than ICO all because the whole crowdsale activity is primarily done within the exchange so there is no more need for the project to apply to an exchange except adding new ones. However, we sill also be careful because not all exchanges have good reputations. Once the necessary trading volume of the project can't be sustainable anymore the exchange may have no choice but to drop the project. ICO has already suffered irreparable damage into its reputation due to many scams sprouting like mushrooms left and right. The market is now demanding something new and better.

This has been baffling me too and I have not gotten any explanation to this, what makes some ICO price higher than the order, is there any calculation they do to know the worth of the project or is it just hype ? There are so many projects that I have seen with high prices, thinking they are more original than the other, but they still get dumped in the end.

I don’t actually pay attention that much to the price of ICO, what I go after is the product that they have, any good product will surely multiply in its value y over 1500% overtime, no matter the low price they start with, community that backs them up also matters to the project.

IEOs havent been great, but you can eye on https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/matic-network from binance launchpad

ico with large prices sometimes leads to fraud that I see sometimes there are ICOs that are successful and some are scam, for this year some ico are often fraudulent because they cannot achieve softcaps that make investors less.

I have never participated in any ICO with huge start up price because most of them are the ones encouraging investors and hunters to dump the price because of its huge profit when they get to the market, so if I am investing in a project for long term reason, I would look at ICO with low price.

You are also right, we should not to view a project as being successful from the side of it price, the price are just mere decisions from the project developers and not a product of the project itself. We just have rely more on the worth of the project technically and how its existence in future can be guaranteed.

the price will not determine if they are genuine or scam.. its depends on the team.. there are ico's that are very cheap but they succeed and still developing their project

Individual coin price is absolutely irrelevant when you can buy fractions of a coin. It only becomes relevant when considered alongside the number of coins available, i.e. market cap.
If a coin sells for $100 and another coin sells for $1, but both have a market cap of $100 million, then it doesn't matter if you spend $100 on 1 of coin A or 100 of coin B, it's effectively the same thing, even though you end up with more coins by buying the $1 one... either way you still have $100 worth of coins, and a millionth of the total supply.

You are absolutely right, however, human psychology is an important factor, especially when lots of unexperienced people enter the market in a bull run. Lower prices can attract more investors because of that reason exactly.

You absolutely rightly said that at the price it is impossible to judge the quality of the project.  As an example, the company pundix, where the cost of the coin was very, very low, but the results of this project today are among the best.

I think that this way you can make a serious selection of those companies that are the best for investors.  The main thing to consider the possibility of increasing the price of their coins several times, and not what price they have today.

I don't think ico price is important, the important part is how much they want to raise.

For instance, eos was 4$ worth which wasn't huge but they raised 4 billion dollars which were huge.