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An early Bitcoin investor and self-confessed libertarian has built the first “seastead” with his BTC profits. For those who do not know, a seastead is a floating home designed to stay in international waters, thus allowing its inhabitants to live outside of the laws of any nation.

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https://www.newsbtc.com/2019/03/01/bitcoin-seastead/

Wow! living on water is a dream to me! I wish those two all the luck to live their dream life :)

This is something to be proud of. I just hope they don't suffer any physical damage or die eventually from the unstable waves of water current. Seeking freedom through bitcoin and now they found freedom from their government.

I'm confused which part is more fascinating, a seastead floating home or a seastead floating home with bitcoins. I'm not against their wealth or something but this clearly affects the eco-system in the waters. Like to stay away from the bullshit we created, we invade the territories of the poor sea creatures.

Wouldn't a good boat be enough? like a Yacht or something with nice habitation inside? I mean what could possibly warrant a "seastead" or "floating home" when many regular ships can do the same thing and be easier to move and more reliable should weather conditions worsen? OK i guess a floating home could do in a lake or such, but i think this couple is in open sea, which in itself could spell trouble...

maybe this is a benefit of bitcoin by using bitcoin they can build whatever they want. this is one of the things that many people might be able to emulate about using bitcoin.

Seasteading is all about sovereignty. Living on a boat on a lake makes you subject to all of the laws of your nation.

Seasteading is about not being under any laws of any nation and building a new society with a blank slate.

The only way to do that in the past was through a violent revolution. Seasteading is doing so peacefully.


As for waves (and the inevitable "pirate") questions, check out https://ocean.builders/faq

When I saw the title I almost thought this was the same project in French Polynesia. Would have been nice if there were photos. Well, best of luck to the couple. They're living their dream.

Where are they gonna "station" their house though? Is the Gulf of Thailand international water? I just hope they've prepared for security situations. What's the international law regarding firearms at home? You'll never know when a pirate would climb up your house.

Hey Elwar, is that your real name though in that article? If yes, are you comfortable that crypto related website identified you and your partner though?

I knew I read about this before on the forums but it wasnt to do with bitcoin at the time but now it is.
To my surprise it was by the same person who posted about it now ;D
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095773.0
I never heard about this concept until they mentioned it in the post and was completely blown away with it being able to make 60 liters of drinkable water and it can withstand tsunami like waves with not being knocked down.

An interesting venture. If someone likes to spend time alone or just in the company of loved ones or friends, it is a very nice investment. However, I would not stay in this place for too long, I love to meet new people.
I am glad that they managed to cash out the Bitcoin profits at the right time. At current BTC prices, they probably would not be able to realize this project.

Another successful people who have gain huge amount of profit in bitcoin. Maybe some of the people already bought a house, car or anything because of the profit that they gain in bitcoin. I hope I also gain huge amount money from bitcoin so I can also provide the things that I need.

thankfully it won't be anyone's trouble, they're in international waters...

What kind of laws can you break when you are the only human in your house? You need to have both a victim and an aggressor to commit a crime. Seasteading sounds the same as reclusion. And not because you are not under the jurisdiction of any government but because you physically can't break any law.

This is something different, early adopters were making their lives go good with the profiting from the early adoption. A Seadtead is truly a new term, also this kind of unique development will help with generating revenue. Because, very few could've got an opportunity to view it.

I think it's more fascinating to see a seastead floating home. Any successful stories that is behind by bitcoin is a very common thing and it's a rare to see that they uses it to make a wonderful home. I also realize that it make damage to the sea and they can be the 'cause of it's pollution. I hope they're not just rich people thus with good heart to maintain the beauty of the ecosystem. If they still have a lot more btc, they should also fund the projects that help saving the water.

I think they want a more unique one because yacht and boats are being seen around so a seastead is a good choice to buy and to buy it thru Bitcoin profits made me amazed.

Anyway, they are early adopters of Bitcoin and this is the result of their patience so those hodlers and will hodl Bitcoin there, just be patient in hodling :)

It's quite interesting.. I mean the 'house-is-floating' is already interesting plus the fact that you were able to do and get what you want with the help of bitcoin, makes it more interesting. However while reading the article, I was expecting to see a picture though. It would be better to see a picture of the house so it's easy to visualize. Regardless of that, I hope they're enjoying it

Really? is that true that if you live in the sea you are not subject by the law of any nation?

Poor?? I think you are wrong you are under estimating the creatures of god, always remember that 70% of earth is water.

Not many laws. We are still subject to maritime law (law of the sea) which prevents eggrevious acts such as murder or slave trafficing, etc.
Being still within the Thai EEZ we cannot drill for oil or other natural resources.
None of those laws affect us though.

We are not planning on being out here alone forever. We have many people interested in buying and once we have 20 orders we will begin the process of bringing more people.

We will be building the seasteads from the seastead site. So plenty of jobs and potential for investors.

What does wealth have to do with having a good heart?

The key here is that by having our own property on the sea that makes it our responsibility. That means we must take care of it since nobody else will.

Check out the tragedy of the commons. Basicaly, those places that are owned by nobody goes to shit because nobody has a stake in it.

The plastic we see floating by our seastead comes from land. Poor countries literally dump their garbage in the ocean. Do they not have good hearts?

It seems that he trying to get a freedom, but it's mean that he also not protected by any law and obtaining necessity stuffs will be hard too. I think it will be better if he buy more property so he can get passive income by renting it, If I am him then that is what would I do.

A lot of early adopters became rich through bitcoin; purchasing and mining at little or no cost and selling as the price rose. 'Bitcoin wealth: as a reference does not seem in line with the vision of Satoshi.
Like many other new technologies those who see the potential early could capitalize on it and get rewards.
In the long run, bitcoin would not be to enrich people, but to facilitate transactions.

The political part is fine and all, but it doesn't answer my question. Why don't you just buy a fine boat and call it a home. Why do you need something resembling a floating house? OH wait, this goes on top of a stick? So its even worse...

Also if the Principality of Sealand (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principality_of_Sealand) teach us something, is that unless you are really far deep inside international waters (preferably moving), you can at any point be subject to the laws of the nearby country. Thailand is a monarchy, and quite strict at times, with a military junta... Funny place to start the experiment.

There is also something about rights to adjacent waters, called exclusive economic zone or such, which can go quite deep if you are anywhere near a country you will very like be subjected to.

On a closer look to the concept of seasteading, i particularly like the idea of building underwater, but this could very likely become a new country. Not sure how humanity will react if a true settlement is built, say, in the middle of the pacific ocean.

I think people miss the point that this is a proof of concept. A prototype.

When a car company spends millions on a new model car prototype do you say "why not just go buy a car from the dealership? It's a lot cheaper".

This is going to be big. Living on the land is for the animals. The next frontier is above the waves.

Such amazing and inspiring story. That couple had a great luck in cryptocurrency. But then when I read the whole post, it was some kind of political idea. Proving that they can build a floating home with some political agenda is quite intense. However it is great that their idea was hooked up Thai people. Whatever it may, it is still sounds unique and stunning.

definitely.

hows it feel to be a pioneer in two ecosystems (btc and seasteading)?

im too chicken to do what you are doing.

Amazing achievement. Knowing Bitcoin at the very first start of it would really bare fruit into how it is now. It's just a matter of knowing what you could foresee in the future that is viable. Who would have thought that it could be a big thing, especially now?

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I just remembered a specific article that there are winners and losers in the crypto world.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/10-bitcoin-winners-and-losers-of-2017

It would have been better if they could of purchased a big piece of land and started their own country.  I'm sure they will do their best but seasteading comes with a bunch of problems and humans are more adapted towards land.

this is amazing, seeing early adopters who have made so much profit from bitcoin makes me regret selling off my acquired bitcoin too early before the bubble in late 2017. Its good the couples are enjoying the reward of believing in a technology so many people doubted.

It's a first step. It's too much of a hassle and a legal battle buying your own land and do with it whatever you want. In my country for example, buying a piece of land still doesn't make it entirely yours if you take into consideration that it's still the government telling you what's allowed and what isn't. That's not something to look forward to when buying land.

Seasteads are a different category, and the fair level of freedom might appeal to a lot of people eventually resulting in some sort of a hype.

Firstly bitcoin has made people escape the rigorous steps by the government before bitcoin came into play.
But all that has become a thing of the past.

Actually they did well by so doing. Early Bitcoin investors are really lucky to be the first partaker of the blessing brought by Bitcoin. If i were them i wouldn't used such money on that project just because of stay out of Nation laws that bound her citizens. Though they try with such investment as it announces Bitcoin to the entire world.

Unfortunately, they are not you.  :P
It all depends on your priorities in life. For them, it's like achieving what they wanted in life - to be free.
So for them, it is already priceless living their dream on a boat.
As long as they are following the protocols in that country - Thailand to be exact and they are not doing any harm to anyone, then they can live peacefully at their own accord.

Many people will be looking back in 10 years wishing they had gotten into seasteading in the beginning just like they are saying about Bitcoin.

Those same people will call me "lucky" for having got in in the beginning.

It's not luck.

true sea steading is not relying on mainland
1. food production
2. utilities(electric/heating/internet/clean water/sewerage)
3. community
4. employment
5. repairs

at the moment elwar has just made himself a holiday home in the ocean. and from what i seen is not ready to go full self sustainable to risk living a year on seastead.
when elwar can be at a point where he can truely say to himself he could happily do his own 'year on seastead' in the same manner as a couple done 'a year on bitcoin' documentary a few years ago. then sea steading is a real thing and not just a holiday home on the ocean. as holiday homes on the ocean have been around for centuries

elwar.
not theory but actual questioning. how do you deal with electric and sewerage. and please like i said no theory, so no providing premade vidoes of technology that could be used from some random source. how are you personally making your holiday home self sustainable. i seen no farming (food) or solar(electric) on the roof of the sea pod, nor any compost/fertiliser pile to recycle waste

think of it like from the proposition of people that make bomb/disaster shelters that they can survive in without needing to rely on the wider world. remember how your suppose to avoid causing harm to the environment (though you already thrown welding masks, canoe's, strutts and other things into the ocean, so not a good eco-start)

a prototype of a seastead would/should include the basics of a holiday home but include the essentials to be self sustainable. ive yet to see your holiday home even have the basics.

So....Bitcoin wasn't legit until a couple lived on it for a year?

I have 2-5 covered. For 1...why? Does Hong Kong produce its own food? Is trade not allowed on your seastead?

"true seastead"... ::)

So many people with their own definitions of what they think a seastead should be. That's kinda the point of seasteading. If you don't like my seastead, don't live near me. Don't buy one. Enjoy land and its creeping communism.

I'm done responding to you. You are never satisfied. Even when a seastead is in the water fully self sufficient with solar, water, internet and (guess what? fish thrive on organic waste) sewage you aren't satisfied.



I'll just pop some imported champagne (grown in Hungary, drunk in the Andaman Sea) and enjoy life on the seastead.

https://coinspice.io/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/seathaifeaim-768x432.png

#seasteadernotaffected

This is really a great news. If there is nothing to be happy about one thing has stand out which is having house on the water which to me is not in any way cheap and to have finance it with their proceed from bitcoin is something that is soothing to my hearing. The concern to me is staying in a place that you are immune from the law which to me is not something too good. As much as the advantage of not under the rules and regulations, so also is the exposure to attacks of people who cannot be prosecuted because the victim is not under the law or the area where the crime is committed is not beyond the jurisprudence of the law.

I asked a similar question days ago and checked back for a response. I think that would be a main concern if you are just a couple of people out at sea with no law enforcement. Most of the piracy in Southeast Asia is centered in the Malacca area but the Gulf of Thailand do see some every now and then. If the gun restrictions on land don't apply out at the Gulf then I suppose they'd be fine. They can just bring more guns than allowed and shot at the pirates.

The #1 question we get is about all of these so called "pirates" that are apparently just roaming the seas looking for targets.

Seriously...who will go so far out of the way to rob a house that's not on land when there are millions of houses on land? I'm a minimalist so I literally only have a very small amount of things to take. My bitcoins? Good luck...cold storage in the states. There are some beers in the fridge...perhaps that's what they're after?

We are surrounded by a huge amount of fishing boats. We have CB radio and VHF. The fishing boats are all around us day and night. You can see their lights all night as they catch fish. They are in international waters. There are no reports of pirates attacking them and taking their much more valueable fish.

I think a can of soup would be affective as they're trying to climb up onto the platform with no ladder.

THis is one issue that should be worked on by the seasteading project because certainly there are marine species that maybe dislodged but if the project has enough study then maybe this can be taken care of. The idea that the project can have its own laws and be not under any country can be not an absolute not unless they can locate themselves in the middle of the Pacific Ocean which is actually not a viable one...in many cases the area is under a certain country's economic zone but what they do is to have a certain agreement with the country it is in as a sort of an experimentation and maybe the country is looking at the project as a possible tourist attraction which can mean a lot for the country's coffers later on so it can be a win-win situation. Anyway, the idea can be attractive and with the right technology can be a very viable one otherwise this can be just another failed human-made ideas.

They seem to be hardcore libertarian, so staying away from laws, for better or worse, is probably a huge factor in this decision. They don't seem to be after any financial incentives from this either, so people can't really knock on them for not making "wiser" choices. They just want to live life on their terms, which Bitcoin encourages.

People seem to be pointing out a lot of problems but I think it's fine overall. Such is life for any pioneer. They could very well pave the way for the practice to be a lot more commonplace.

what do you mean by that ?  it sounds sad to me but as i see bitcoin is still unregulated  meyt so dont worry .  by using bitcoin we can still experience a freedom  . i also like the idea of the couple that is stated on the first page but it seems to risky to me   .  arent they contented enough of using bitcoin and cryptos ? that can also be considered as a real freedom already imo .

The sea stead could expand into a grouping of sea steads and a small community of like minded folk will start the worlds first village on boats in international waters

We have our second video out about raising the seastead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c83TiSJ6sfA



Here's the first in case you missed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTXhgcXA1pM

What's the price if you want to buy one? Is the price a fixed amount in BTC or is it going to vary depending on the fiat rates?
What does the price include?
Is it only the steel structure or maybe there are some installations included?
How are you planning to deal with the noise of the steel enclosure. I haven't been inside but I imagine it's like living in a giant barrel. The windows are also pretty small.
How's the ventilation inside? Does it get hot?

For anyone who is already used to working online can stay anywhere so long as they have internet access. You can try that kind of lifestyle living in a floating house but then if you have kids, it would be a different story.


I tried googling seastead, it seem like a small island which is going to be a costly for anyone unless you can reclaim one. Still a costly investment, I don't even think the government will consider a domicile.

So, superwealthy couple lives where no laws or law enforcement applies? And they decided to make this news part of the public domain? Yep, this can in no way or shape ever backfire...

This is great and it is really encouraging to some of us the current cryptocurrencies adopters.  Many stories are out there about how people are creating wealth through cryptocurrencies and this particular one is really great and I cannot lie but desire this asset for my family.  Whatever will make you to live out of the government laws and live peacefully is a welcome development and I pray my investments should also turn out great like this in future and I should be able to have a home of my own!

The barebones price for the production model will be about $150k. We're still working to narrow down the price with our contractor.

The production model will be twice as deep with a more streamlined design to deal with wind and waves better.

The platform will have a walk around deck as well as the second floor 360 degree ocean view deck. The windows will also be much bigger.

Noise isn't bad at all. Similar to being inside a boat. The production version will have insulation. Ventilation has been fine, we live with the door open because no bugs. A fan is all we need for staying cool. Turn it off at night because it gets too cool.

A/C will be an optional add on.

elwar
as always. concentrate on describing how your project deals with utilities/sustainability
anyone can build a pod.
but a pod thats self sustaining and has utilities is different

its like land property. anyone can make a garden shed. but build one with its own electric supply, its own internet access and its own functional toilet. shower/clean water supply is totally different

a sea stead.. like a land based homestead is not about  the 'sea' part. its about the stead part.. the livability and sustainability.
so
clean water
sewerage handling
electric for more than just a laptop, fridge and nightlight(remember techy's love to use electric,) so dont sacrifice by saying mini fridge and raspbi are essential for restricted electric. think of a living situation where people can be actually comfy with music playing, online gaming on a 42"tv, cooking pizza and having lights on all at the same time

questions:
1. does the railing/metal frame on the roof have adequate square footage to mount enough solar to cover REAL COMFORT living
2. internally, with space for a living room, kitchen, and bedroom. is there also room for storage of clothing, gadgets. and then more importantly. the mechanics of electric circuits, water treatment, sewerage handling,

living like a thai monk in a minimalist pod might be ok for a month experience but average joe want thier home comforts

I know some people who invested on bitcoin back when its price was around ~$1,000 and all of them have their own houses built using the income they garnered overtime. These people deserve the success for their sheer trust, determination, and patience from the very start they invested (and at the same time lucky!).


It is possible for this situation to happen but not to this extent like what the couples experienced. Prices of bitcoin unexpectedly skyrocketed last year and that opened the opportunity for most long-term investors to cash-out their investments for maximum profit. Currently, many investors continue to hope that the price jump may happen again but I believe that it will but not to the same degree as what happened before.

I think this might be interesting once they try building underwater. Above the waves is a mistake, you are prone to both weather and piracy. And for that you could achieve your libertarian ideals by purchasing (or building) a large ship. I think some floating casinos exist to bypass laws in countries that don't like gambling. In the future, this idea will return with space. Spacestead? If a private entity builds a space station and sells citizenship what would happen? But before that, doing it underwater should be more feasible.

Seriously, if i was that couple, i would have bought a nice boat instead, and achieve the same thing, plus mobility.

I think living a simple life in seastead is not bad at all you are far from population, polution,  taxes etc. the couple here wants to permanently live there, they could afford some yacht or boat if they are only planning to travel seas.
But not right so they bought seastead from there earned bitcoins.

Well this experiment quickly turned into a nightmare! I saw on the news tonight that the government pulled the house into the harbour and the owners are supposedly on the run. They say that they can give the death penalty or life imprisonment for people who infringe on their countries sovereignty.  :o :o :o

They say the owners of the house is an American citizen and this house was floating in their economic zone.  ::)  I hope the couple is safe and they will get out of that country <Thailand> before this goes to court.  >:(

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-18/bitcoin-couple-face-death-penalty-in-thailand-for-seastead/11031336

It was a dream come true for them but ended up as a nightmare instead of happily ever after.
I also have a question for them,why did they choose seastead instead of a yacht or a houseboat?

I read somewhere inside the forum where theymos replied to that specific thread that the OP himself is the one who did this, he's family is now being held in Thailand  for possible death penalty or life imprisonment.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132685.0;topicseen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132685.0;topicseen)

Notionally, a seastead can be used as a permanent residence which is completely outside of any country's control, allowing for them to be (what would amount to) a "floating haven" where only international laws apply. A boat still has to be registered to a country and, if I remember correctly, has to comply with all the laws under the flag which it flies. That's the primary difference, from what I know. However, the rule of force applies more than ever in international waters so if someone with a standing navy (or pirates) want to roll up on you, you're scuffed unless you can actively contest their actions.

It's an interesting concept, but they definitely needed to make it further away. Trying to just skirt along the edge of a country's territorial boundaries isn't wise, as this couple has apparently very quickly discovered.

Those creatures have plenty of underwater space and I don't think any of them are in danger because of things like this.  Underwater drilling and general pollution of the environment by huge corporations are of much bigger concern.

This is truly impressive.  Think of the mining you could do if you had enough solar power on a boat home large enough.  All the rigs could be kept down below and there would be enough clear sky to power everything.  The possibilities are incredible.  Would not be for me however.  Not a libertarian and I would not be happy living with water all around, no matter how much freedom that provided.

What stuck out to me from the article is how little it cost them to do that.  It's more than I could afford but if I were to imagine the cost of a 'Seastead' I would think it would cost much more than they paid to build it.

Edited to add:
Doh.  Should have read through the thread before making my comment.  That sucks for them but I don't think they will get put to death for this.

this entirely demonstrates governments are simply thuggish mafias.

Not in our territory, just close? We'll write some official language on some pieces of paper, and use those pieces of paper to justify murdering you

That's what happens when there is a monopoly on force, and why it's paramount that any individual has access to at least some sort of defense comparable to the average government grunt. But hey, people will always give up liberty for freedom because that's how they are. No rhyme or reason, aside from preferring to be lead rather than preferring to be free from the constraints of governments.

Cases like this just go to show that governments are retarded, they do oh so little good compared to the overreaching burden they place on persons. Absolutely disgusting.

Nope, it was a Libertarian experiment.  ;)  The Thailand government say they saw this as an attack on their sovereignty, but I think they are worried that this will become a trend and that their coast will be flooded with like minded people and this will not be good for a country with a dictatorship government. <They do not want their citizens to think for themselves and to be free>  ::)

People living in international waters also do not have to pay taxes to a specific government and Thailand need those taxes to sustain their government salaries.  ::)

That's great. It us also my dream. I can say that couple is the perfect wise couple to think that way. Very relaxing living. I hope my partner will learn how to earn bitcoin too but she did not understand this industry even I teached her so hard every time that she asked me how to earn using bitcoin. But be carefull there is an punishment especially when you go to the other country's sea territory

This is amazing best couple think wisely seastead is decentralized as it has no business with government such as taxes. It will be great and more innovating if all early crypto investor will come up with something good like this. This development worth to emulate. It will be my pleasure if I can come up with something like this in the nearest future.

Look at all the shit posters spamming their sigs not having a clue what’s happened to Elwar & his girlfriend (the two people who were living on the seastead).

For your info sig spammers - The couple are on the run from Thai authorities with the threat of being imprisoned or worse for the supposed crime of treason.

You can read more here -

https://www.thephuketnews.com/hunt-continues-for-seastead-couple-71198.php

People’s lives are at risk here, so some fucking research.

I wish to live on the couples seastead, I can be like there pet doggo but instead of feeding me I would feed them. I hope they are ok wherever they are, probably better off than the rest of us LOL.
why are they arresting them they left for a reason for you not to apprehend them twats.

The amount of toxic waste being dumped in oceans are really huge and alarming and it is creating a much bigger issue than someone creating a floating home, the couple hit the jackpot with their wise investment and cashing out at the top and they have the rights to do what ever they want with their money as long as they are not breaking any local or international laws, but the real question that bugs me is that how long they will be able to live an isolated life, it is same like being jailed without any real world communication and since the authorities are after them i am not sure how long they can survive like that .

well if there is fish, they can live until they die, and if there is no fish I am sure there is seaweed.

"“We have been keeping under the radar so far, but we follow all the laws of Thailand so it’s as if we’re just living on a boat in the water as far as they’re concerned…. All we expect from the Thai government is that they follow international law. We will be doing the same. But Nadia and I aren’t doing anything we can’t do on land.”"

They should anchor in international waters and not even follow the laws of Thailand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_waters

Hey who wants to pitch in for are own Seastead? We will bring some solar panels, some wind/water turbines and we will be set. I will produce the food for us. When it goes colder we can float a bit south. We could actually have more land than all of the land governments have occupied.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1zGqRXZlnY

I will set up turrets that shoot anything that comes towards us so the UN can fuk right off.

People live on boats all over the place. Boats are better, because they can easily move to better locations.

8)

We are not talking about a scripted movie here to survive in the ocean with fish alone, for water they will bring purifier  :P, even if they are determined they have to somehow reach some shores to get the essential things for their survival, it is real life with consequences and i am not sure what criminal activities they did to be chased like that.


National security is the card every country will use to put someone behind bars if they cannot find any other law to hold someone back, be it whistle blowers or any other individual who goes beyond the normal criteria and even if they anchor in international waters they will be under custody and it is a matter of time how long they can play this hide and seek.

Definitely they could have lived in a boat or a yacht peacefully rather than these hurdles  :D.

you can live off fish alone and yes you would need to turn the salt water into drinkable water with a purifier depending the waters you are in you can also use rain. You don`t need anything other than Food, Water and Shelter. I mean you could bring solar to have power, You just want other things. I would bring some farm land. Have a little farm on the floating boat/seastead if you want to grow some bananas just move south a bit lol want some blueberries and peaches move north a bit. Just call it a boat not a seastead lol.

https://static.dezeen.com/uploads/2017/07/mini-living-seasteading-institute_dezeen_sq.jpg

Bitcoin fans are always this unique!  ;D ;D ;D


Well, you are actually right but they want something new and of course an unique one. This life on the seastead won't be forever I guess, as it could cost much and frequently comeback to the land to take or buy their needs. But, at least they will be enjoying their lives.

You're about the amount toxic waste dumped in the oceans are more huge than what couple did but if read the article, the writer said a Thailand Navy officer said " the couple endangered national sovereignty, an offence punishable by life imprisonment or death." However, police officer was said to say "the couple breached section 119 of the Thai criminal code, which refers to the intent to impact the sovereignty or deteriorate the independence of the state."
I don't maybe because the couple are bitcoiner or that's how their law goes in Thailand.

That's really interesting, glad to see such early investors trying to realize ideas which Bitcoin is doing with the code. But living outside of the laws of any nation must be easy, the difficult part is who will recognize you

This is a wonderful idea. Is it really possible to claim a place in international waters? I have never heard of the possibility of it. If anyone happened to find the photos of the mentioned seastead, please post it here. So, others could get a better idea about it.

Well according to this article nope I guess because the lady lived in Thailand she was still under Thailand law, but in theory in Canada if you laminated your birth certificate it becomes void it actually says it right on it. So you would not be a Canadian citizen anymore. Then you get on your "BIG BOAT" I guess if you call it a seastead? there is a problem there? and go out to sea, live in peace, not forced to pay tax to any tax man, but perhaps create a society on the island that the people are willing to give their tax and all vote on where it goes, instead of voting people to vote for them, stuff like this would not happen.

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2019/04/29/the-ndp-says-ottawa-needs-to-cancel-its-12-million-award-to-retrofit-loblaw-fridges.html

Now the U.N will come at you with nukes because we know how these people work, so you might want to bring a nuke with you to fire back in that case and bring some guns.
You will also be in a good spot for when mass flooding happens. You will just float on top like noahs ark or something lol.

You can`t "Claim" it btw, but you can live there, but if you do not want live by international law you don`t have to, you might want to make a military then. You do not have to sign the treaty.

I'm not sure sure about the law associated with it in allowing a house to float on international water. If I'm wrong please correct it, a couple from Indonesia recently built their house on the ocean. This was found by the government and taken for investigation and if it is proven true probably both could be sentenced to death according to the law of the country.

It is sad, the governments should be giving a people a reason to want to live in their country not punishing those who want to leave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_P5Az044d8

they are even on the other side of the fence which is not their territory an area of land under the jurisdiction of a ruler or state.

But i learnt they're facing legal issues after deciding to do that. I don't know maybe they've offended the country laws and regulations in one way or the other because from what I read, it won't look good for them after the legal battle. Nevertheless they've really done welk fir showing gains from Bitcoin or crypto can be used inthe real world. These all are things that'll help in mass exposure and utilisation of Bitcoin.

That's very interesting, but we can state they still have to go to shore to get some real food...
Without that they cant be possible living in that place for long time without leaving and getting some supplies from the "outside".
Im glad for them and everyone else who thinks that way into using Crypto / bitcoin's to build their future.

If they had more resources they would not need to go to land for real food. They could grow it on there island. They could grow their supplies on the floating greenhouse (I mean boat)   ;D
They have land on their "big boat"