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Title: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: Warlock 175 on March 03, 2019, 11:42:48 PM
Hello,

A few months ago I wanted to sell 24 Litecoin on cryptopia during a phase of heavy server load
and everything was very buggy. I sold my Litecoin and got my bitcoin credit. A few seconds later I noticed, that my balance did still show as 24 Litecoin plus the bitcoin balance I just got. So I sold the 24 Litecoin again Smiley. My Litecoin balance now shows a negative balance of 24 Litecoin (which kinda makes sense).
I withdrawed all funds from cryptopia, and now Im not quite sure about what I should do.
Should I:

1. Deposit the 24 Litecoin back to cryptopia to make my balance 0
or
2. Keep all the Money and be happy that I got some nice Litcoin for free

Thanks you for your answers

PS: dont worry about my new account, I only registered to ask this question as I am really not sure about what to do.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: StephenJH on March 03, 2019, 11:50:12 PM
Hello,

A few months ago I wanted to sell 24 Litecoin on cryptopia during a phase of heavy server load
and everything was very buggy. I sold my Litecoin and got my bitcoin credit. A few seconds later I noticed, that my balance did still show as 24 Litecoin plus the bitcoin balance I just got. So I sold the 24 Litecoin again Smiley. My Litecoin balance now shows a negative balance of 24 Litecoin (which kinda makes sense).
I withdrawed all funds from cryptopia, and now Im not quite sure about what I should do.
Should I:

1. Deposit the 24 Litecoin back to cryptopia to make my balance 0
or
2. Keep all the Money and be happy that I got some nice Litcoin for free

Thanks you for your answers

PS: dont worry about my new account, I only registered to ask this question as I am really not sure about what to do.

Just ask from support and they will gladly take back their own money in my opinion. If I were in your shoes I will send it back to exchange because it is also a sin to take something that doesn't belong to you. This should be a small bug on their side and reporting this bug will prevent the possible losses for cryptopia.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: santiPOGI on March 04, 2019, 12:06:36 AM
Hello,

A few months ago I wanted to sell 24 Litecoin on cryptopia during a phase of heavy server load
and everything was very buggy. I sold my Litecoin and got my bitcoin credit. A few seconds later I noticed, that my balance did still show as 24 Litecoin plus the bitcoin balance I just got. So I sold the 24 Litecoin again Smiley. My Litecoin balance now shows a negative balance of 24 Litecoin (which kinda makes sense).
I withdrawed all funds from cryptopia, and now Im not quite sure about what I should do.
Should I:

1. Deposit the 24 Litecoin back to cryptopia to make my balance 0
or
2. Keep all the Money and be happy that I got some nice Litcoin for free

Thanks you for your answers

PS: dont worry about my new account, I only registered to ask this question as I am really not sure about what to do.


Even if you want to do that you can't!
Cryptopia is now close due to some reason of hacking.
If they will open again you should ask for the help desk first before doing anything.

If that will be some other person, they will just create new account.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: Carrelmae10 on March 04, 2019, 02:20:24 AM
..congratulations that you gain your coin double as what you have plus additonal bitcoin for free..it is up to you if you will going to return it or just keep it in your wallet..

..but if i were you i will going to return it to cryptopia,,because it's hard for someone to lose the things that they have earn..speacially now that cryptopia was in a trouble for the reason that it is again attacked by the hackers..just remember that it is better to take advantage the success of the fruit of your labor than enjoying the things which you have not labored.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: conanmori on March 04, 2019, 02:26:12 AM
This just means that cryptopia is not really well secured from the beginning. How can they not check there own system if they have some bug on it. Thats why they got hack in a row.

About the litecoin i think you should give it back since they are currently is despair right now and it can become still a big help for them. Well its your choice to decide.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: pushups44 on March 04, 2019, 02:33:58 AM
I personally would return the Litecoin or any cryptocurrency that was mistakenly added to my account, because if you take money accidentally given to you it can be a huge liability with banks. That said, given the recent hack I agree that Cryptopia is an insecure platform that traders and investors should generally avoid.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: alonelyorange on March 04, 2019, 03:11:46 AM
Cryptopia have stop for all trading and the same thing with deposit and withdrawal, after got hack cryptopia was stop for all transaction and now you have wait until cryptopia is back to solve their problem and you keep hold your asset there.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: grifinmch on March 04, 2019, 03:16:30 AM
It is better to be returned and every action is sure to be a reply, to be honest for yourself would be better.
Cryptopia is less secure and should not use it or it is possible that the team has an update on this.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: Erickan on March 04, 2019, 03:41:24 AM
I personally would return the Litecoin or any cryptocurrency that was mistakenly added to my account, because if you take money accidentally given to you it can be a huge liability with banks. That said, given the recent hack I agree that Cryptopia is an insecure platform that traders and investors should generally avoid.

This is an unsafe trading platform with consecutive attacks from hackers, the Cryptopia team is too weak. I think if they don't improve their security soon, they will soon have to shut down because of hackers' attacks and distrust of customers.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: cellard on March 04, 2019, 04:19:14 AM
Hello,

A few months ago I wanted to sell 24 Litecoin on cryptopia during a phase of heavy server load
and everything was very buggy. I sold my Litecoin and got my bitcoin credit. A few seconds later I noticed, that my balance did still show as 24 Litecoin plus the bitcoin balance I just got. So I sold the 24 Litecoin again Smiley. My Litecoin balance now shows a negative balance of 24 Litecoin (which kinda makes sense).
I withdrawed all funds from cryptopia, and now Im not quite sure about what I should do.
Should I:

1. Deposit the 24 Litecoin back to cryptopia to make my balance 0
or
2. Keep all the Money and be happy that I got some nice Litcoin for free

Thanks you for your answers

PS: dont worry about my new account, I only registered to ask this question as I am really not sure about what to do.


Looks like you glitched your way into doubling your money. If it only was 24 bitcoins and not LTC you would have made a great deal.

You can do 2 things:

1) Inform cryptopia that their services aren't safe and give back the money

2) Keep the money, and never use the account that's glitched with a negative balance again.

They are offline anyway. Rumors are they will come back soon. Most exchanges are a trainwreck, you cannot trust them with your real info or putting any real money there. Just do your trades and get out.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: AjithBtc on March 04, 2019, 04:41:35 AM
You've got an golden egg worth 24 Litecoin + Bitcoin. As an user stated if its 24 Bitcoin + Litecoin you've got the best deal out of trading through cryptopia. From my understanding it is upto you whether you need to contact them through some sources and return it or just can make use of it. Chances for cryptopia getting into exchange service takes time, sometimes they drop it in the mean and come up with new exchanges.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: Cruxer on March 04, 2019, 04:45:49 AM
1. Deposit the 24 Litecoin back to cryptopia to make my balance 0
or
2. Keep all the Money and be happy that I got some nice Litcoin for free

sounds like not owner of Cryptopia is dead but they did simple mistake in their exchange that made them huge losses so he pretending that he died :D
fair thing to do is to return the money, but i think you are not the only one and many people earned free crypto by their mistake


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: Kakmakr on March 04, 2019, 05:39:06 AM
The double spend might have been made possible, because your transaction was done off-chain on their internal database. You cannot do this "on-chain" because you need to have control over 51% of the hash power of that specific coin. The site is closed now, so you will not be able to rectify the problem. <Did you manage to withdraw the second amount or is this just the balance that are shown in your wallet?>

It just shows you why centralized services like this, is never a good idea.  :P


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: steveabrahams on March 04, 2019, 05:56:12 AM
Cryptopia site is dead right now because of the security breach i guess you can keep all the money now and can send back the coins to cryptopia or not, it's depends on you though. Do whatever you want.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: odolvlobo on March 04, 2019, 06:06:24 AM
I bought an item for $9.53, and I gave them a $20 bill. They accidently gave me a $100 bill in change rather than a $10 bill. What should I do? Should I be an honest person that wants the world to be a better place, or should I be a loser that takes advantage of other people whenever I can?


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: Herbert2020 on March 04, 2019, 06:08:50 AM
well, what you are asking really depends on your own honesty! if you are an honest person and don't want to own stolen money then you would return the money that doesn't belong to you to the real owners and be done with it, but if you are not then just keep it and be happy about the luck that smiled upon you ;)


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: Nadziratel on March 04, 2019, 06:12:15 AM
It was an unpleasant situation and a clear indication of how things went bad in Cryptopia. Exchange has been closed for days, and the status of those with funds inside is completely unclear. The right to return the funds, but of course you decide...


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: Dudeperfect on March 04, 2019, 06:13:32 AM
Well, it's not just about 24 Litecoins but the entire trust of Cryptopia that took them much time to build. I would recommend you to inform them about it as soon as possible so that anyone won't be able to misuse this bug. They might reward you with something but you shouldn't expect it.

That's what happened with me a few years ago and I was rewarded with some amount in Bitcoin when I informed that particular exchange about the bug and they fixed it. Every time it's not about money but the goodwill too.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: avikz on March 04, 2019, 06:45:48 AM
Hello,

A few months ago I wanted to sell 24 Litecoin on cryptopia during a phase of heavy server load
and everything was very buggy. I sold my Litecoin and got my bitcoin credit. A few seconds later I noticed, that my balance did still show as 24 Litecoin plus the bitcoin balance I just got. So I sold the 24 Litecoin again Smiley. My Litecoin balance now shows a negative balance of 24 Litecoin (which kinda makes sense).
I withdrawed all funds from cryptopia, and now Im not quite sure about what I should do.
Should I:

1. Deposit the 24 Litecoin back to cryptopia to make my balance 0
or
2. Keep all the Money and be happy that I got some nice Litcoin for free

Thanks you for your answers

PS: dont worry about my new account, I only registered to ask this question as I am really not sure about what to do.


Cryptopia is currently down down due to the security breach they identified in the month of Jan but they are expected to come back live starting from tomorrow. If you are willing to make up their losses, please contact support first before depositing any Litecoin into your account. Your transaction value is somewhere close to $1,100 so it's not a very amount of sum for an exchange, but if you want to stay true to yourself, I will suggest you to refund that amount to them. That's the most ethical treatment that I can see from this situation! 


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: Vaculin on March 04, 2019, 06:46:56 AM
You got a free money with because of the bug, in legal scenario, you are not at fault at that and you can keep that if you like.
Actually that depends on you, either you return it or not, but if you still continue to use cryptopia, you account will deducted once a deposit will come.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: meanwords on March 04, 2019, 06:49:10 AM
Man, that's super lucky. To be honest I would just report the bug that happened in their exchange but I won't return the money. It's like a reward for finding a bug that will help their security be more tighten. No hating but free money is still free money. I know most of us would agree but won't say it. The thing here is that you helped the exchange while making money from it.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: kelz1 on March 04, 2019, 07:37:26 AM
It all depends on your concious if you can keep the money or not. If you found $300 in the street many would give it to the police, others would pocket the goods instead


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: TimeTeller on March 04, 2019, 07:56:07 AM
This just means that cryptopia is not really well secured from the beginning. How can they not check there own system if they have some bug on it. Thats why they got hack in a row.

About the litecoin i think you should give it back since they are currently is despair right now and it can become still a big help for them. Well its your choice to decide.

If only people will report such bugs that they encounter.
They might have discovered of the loopholes leading to their hacking incident.
Now, even if you have the intentions to return it back, nobody knows if they will ever open again.
The situation is good for you but for so many others, it was an unfortunate time of their life.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: kkgfhj123 on March 04, 2019, 08:32:58 AM
 Please check for the vulnerability. Today you are at the profit side but if such errors keep happening then the other day you can be on the other side facing loss.



Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: teejayrichard2 on March 04, 2019, 08:48:12 AM
well if you are a sincere person, you will contact cryptopia support and talk to them about the situation of things and then do the necessary refund. Though most person will move on with the free money they got but those who have integrity will do the right thing and make tha necessary refund. Just do the right thing, it pays.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: rizla2 on March 04, 2019, 08:53:43 AM
Hello,

A few months ago I wanted to sell 24 Litecoin on cryptopia during a phase of heavy server load
and everything was very buggy. I sold my Litecoin and got my bitcoin credit. A few seconds later I noticed, that my balance did still show as 24 Litecoin plus the bitcoin balance I just got. So I sold the 24 Litecoin again Smiley. My Litecoin balance now shows a negative balance of 24 Litecoin (which kinda makes sense).
I withdrawed all funds from cryptopia, and now Im not quite sure about what I should do.
Should I:

1. Deposit the 24 Litecoin back to cryptopia to make my balance 0
or
2. Keep all the Money and be happy that I got some nice Litcoin for free

Thanks you for your answers

PS: dont worry about my new account, I only registered to ask this question as I am really not sure about what to do.


Well since they haven't reopened as planned, and I have a feeling they even won't you should keep them for now. See what happens with the exchange in the future.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: xvids on March 04, 2019, 09:06:35 AM
Wow that is a huge amount of money,
You are a lucky one if it was me I would just consider it as a closing gift.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: thankyoulord on March 04, 2019, 09:17:18 AM
just do the right thing and make a refund to cryptopia so God will bless you. In as much as cryptopia is not aware as of now about the money, it is wrong keeping it. contact the admin or support team and tell them about what happened, then make a refund. Integrity is far more important than money.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: rizla2 on March 04, 2019, 09:48:48 AM
just do the right thing and make a refund to cryptopia so God will bless you. In as much as cryptopia is not aware as of now about the money, it is wrong keeping it. contact the admin or support team and tell them about what happened, then make a refund. Integrity is far more important than money.

Even if they never reopen? People are silly  :D


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: Warlock 175 on March 04, 2019, 11:59:06 AM
Thank you guys alot for all the replys.

I have decided to contact the cryptopia support as soon as the exchange is back to full operation,
report the bug, and see if they want me to return the money. In case the exchange is not ever getting back to full operation tho, I think I will
keep it.

Best regards


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: erickkyut on March 04, 2019, 12:13:06 PM
Hello,

A few months ago I wanted to sell 24 Litecoin on cryptopia during a phase of heavy server load
and everything was very buggy. I sold my Litecoin and got my bitcoin credit. A few seconds later I noticed, that my balance did still show as 24 Litecoin plus the bitcoin balance I just got. So I sold the 24 Litecoin again Smiley. My Litecoin balance now shows a negative balance of 24 Litecoin (which kinda makes sense).
I withdrawed all funds from cryptopia, and now Im not quite sure about what I should do.
Should I:

1. Deposit the 24 Litecoin back to cryptopia to make my balance 0
or
2. Keep all the Money and be happy that I got some nice Litcoin for free

Thanks you for your answers

PS: dont worry about my new account, I only registered to ask this question as I am really not sure about what to do.


Don't worry about it bro! No matter what you choose on your two choices, you cannot do both of them because Cryptopia was hacked last month and I think they will not return our coins. They said that they will make the site on live again but for read only feature. For me this is just their delaying tactics while they are thinking of a way to run away with our coins.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: rizla2 on March 04, 2019, 12:15:35 PM
Thank you guys alot for all the replys.

I have decided to contact the cryptopia support as soon as the exchange is back to full operation,
report the bug, and see if they want me to return the money. In case the exchange is not ever getting back to full operation tho, I think I will
keep it.

Best regards

I would do the same. If they don't get back to full operation as they promised to thousands of users, I don't see why would you return the funds to them.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: davis196 on March 04, 2019, 12:42:53 PM
This topic belongs to some other sub-forum.Maybe "Service discussions".
This is some really weird situtation.It's a bug of cryptopia(their mistake),but you got 24 litecoins that don't belong to you,because of their mistake.It's not your fault,but if you keep those 24 litecoins,you still look like a scammer.Weird...


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: Lizzylove1 on March 04, 2019, 12:48:23 PM
You need to send back the 24 Litecoin to the exchange and get your balance to zero, this implies honesty and integrity, we need to consider the unfortunate incident that befalls Cryptopia. Once something doesn't belong to us, we need to refund it. This type of technical error from Cryptopia is very critical.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: proTECH77 on March 04, 2019, 12:52:41 PM
Cryptopia site is dead right now because of the security breach i guess you can keep all the money now and can send back the coins to cryptopia or not, it's depends on you though. Do whatever you want.

Cryptopia!!! has nothing more left for it in terms of Security. Hope they actually thought things will not go wrong but these things turn the other way round. Cryptopia is dead and need more team member of expert to work clockwise around the exchange to bring it glory back from the shackles.Let OP kindly send back the 24Litecoin because of the love to humanity and report the bug to the support team member.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: rizla2 on March 04, 2019, 01:11:52 PM
You need to send back the 24 Litecoin to the exchange and get your balance to zero, this implies honesty and integrity, we need to consider the unfortunate incident that befalls Cryptopia. Once something doesn't belong to us, we need to refund it. This type of technical error from Cryptopia is very critical.

Do you live in the present? Who should he send it to? To an OFFLINE exchange that hasn't came back online today as they promised? He doesn't need to send anything, they need to get back online and return my funds, and then all the other peoples.  ???


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: suzanne5223 on March 04, 2019, 05:49:34 PM
Hello,

A few months ago I wanted to sell 24 Litecoin on cryptopia during a phase of heavy server load
and everything was very buggy. I sold my Litecoin and got my bitcoin credit. A few seconds later I noticed, that my balance did still show as 24 Litecoin plus the bitcoin balance I just got. So I sold the 24 Litecoin again Smiley. My Litecoin balance now shows a negative balance of 24 Litecoin (which kinda makes sense).
I withdrawed all funds from cryptopia, and now Im not quite sure about what I should do.
Should I:

1. Deposit the 24 Litecoin back to cryptopia to make my balance 0
or
2. Keep all the Money and be happy that I got some nice Litcoin for free

Thanks you for your answers

PS: dont worry about my new account, I only registered to ask this question as I am really not sure about what to do.


Even if you want to do that you can't!
Cryptopia is now close due to some reason of hacking.
If they will open again you should ask for the help desk first before doing anything.

If that will be some other person, they will just create new account.
You're right with what you said because most people wont even mention this situation to the public and I believe the OP was the only which will receive two transaction balance instead of one. However,I pity those users of the exchange that will be badly affect because the exchange was already in losses as mentioned on their page.



Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: 1Referee on March 04, 2019, 07:24:54 PM
Man, that's super lucky. To be honest I would just report the bug that happened in their exchange but I won't return the money. It's like a reward for finding a bug that will help their security be more tighten. No hating but free money is still free money. I know most of us would agree but won't say it. The thing here is that you helped the exchange while making money from it.

It's not free money. It's money that other users will have to pay up for. If someone else was able to withdraw the same funds twice, how would you feel if the exchange took your money to compensate for the loss of funds? You obviously won't like it and wish the user returned the funds, so from there it makes sense in this case to return the funds.

Seriously, people here are freaking retarded. Work for your money noobs. Do good receive good. Do bad receive bad. That's how life is.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: figmentofmyass on March 04, 2019, 08:17:36 PM
This just means that cryptopia is not really well secured from the beginning. How can they not check there own system if they have some bug on it. Thats why they got hack in a row.

sounds like the mt gox withdrawal bug that was happening shortly before it collapsed in 2014. over time, more and more people were becoming aware that they could have gox process withdrawals multiple times (giving a negative balance). eventually, all the bitcoins were gone......

this definitely casts a new light on the recent hack and planned relaunch. it doesn't give me great confidence in their recovery. :-\


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: Zalaster on March 06, 2019, 08:53:44 AM
I bought an item for $9.53, and I gave them a $20 bill. They accidently gave me a $100 bill in change rather than a $10 bill. What should I do? Should I be an honest person that wants the world to be a better place, or should I be a loser that takes advantage of other people whenever I can?
If you are an honest person, you should contact support and decide this. However, you yourself must make a decision.


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: Ucy on March 06, 2019, 09:52:53 PM
Well this is very unethical and criminal,.. worse still, you made it public. The exchange has gone through alot and this just  worsen the situation. I would advise you to return it or let them know about this on their social media pages


Title: Re: I sold my litecoin twice on Cryptopia
Post by: FlawlessDeal on March 06, 2019, 10:00:36 PM
keep it, if that happened vica versa, they would do that too