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I can see that there are still many new projects based on the HYIP system. Is able to earn money on it someone else than its founder?

Yes, of course.

I do not know why, but I feel a large dose of sarcasm in this statement..  ::) :D

Can you give an example of a HYIP project that has been running for more than 3 months?

You're not _earning_ anything. You're either stealing money or having your money stolen.

HYIPs are only for greedy losers and idiots. Don't get caught up in them. You're trash if you do, and you deserve to lose everything.

Does that answer your question?

What answer did you expect when you make such a question? Only a sarcastic or a troll one.
Still you ask again a question, which i'm sure that you know the answer...

Stop wasting your time with HYIP's and Ponzis and start doing something else.

NO, NO and NO! Every single HYIP is a scam and run by a group of scammers! Only the scammer who runs that HYIP is going to get benefited out of it! I see a lot of users are advertising HYIPs in this part of the forum and I think the forum management should take some actions against such users promoting HYIP scams! There were few companies back in 2008 started this boom and I remember an hyip called "Geniusfunds" which was active for around 2 years offering daily returns and ran away with few millions after two years of operating. But after that I could not find any single HYIP which is not scam. Stay out of hyip market at any cost!

Only the founders make money on hyips + the different hyip monitor sites.

While all investors are destined to lose everything, leaving investors dry with nothing but promises of great riches.

Yes but dont do it

It's probably possible but you are playing against a really stacked field in general, some just straight scams. There may be some that are more legitimate that others but that's only if you are very careful. You're better off with almost any other option.

HYIP's are ponzi scheme, and you can only make money if you are an early investor and you are active in referring people but when there is no fund coming in people who are late in investing are left behind, only the admin is the one who will make money in HYIP so better not invest in this kind of investment.

Yes, you can in the early days.
They pay if you can catch a site running since 1 or 2 days, just to gain reputation.

If you need a site for this, PM me, and I send you a link

Yes, it is possible but it will difficult to earn money from HYIP because, in the end, they will scam people who deposit in big money. You need to realize that there is no fast money on the internet and you need to do work hard before you can earn money.

But yes, HYIP programs still tempting people to invest some money and get a profit in a short-term. I see many people lose their money, but some people can earn money especially if they can join in the early times.

Hahaha.

Even the acronym HYIP is a lie, it really stands for Help You Into Poverty, not High Yield Investment Program.....

Once you deposited any money on a HYIP website consider that money is lost and gone for good, You might get paid if you are a early investors but for every dollar you receive other people in the other side is losing money.

lol, All HYIP are the same, there are no exception.., You might get paid at first but it was a hyip admin strategy so you will deposit more and bring all your friends with you. in the end, only the admin will make money on any hyips sites you mention

There is no chance for you to earn by joining any HYIP program. All these HYIP are scam programs luring people to false promises that they can earn big money by joining their company.

I made a blockchain game inspired by HYIPs. In spite of all logic, it's been going on for 3 months and a half.

https://snailking.github.io/snailtree/game.html

Best of all, you don't have to take my word for it. Unlike centralized websites, you can just look at the smart contract for proof: https://etherscan.io/address/0x1199e1C21C89bF9653DC2996fed7168A6B587655

Contract deployment transaction, 109 days ago as of this writing: https://etherscan.io/tx/0xeb880c9d57a125f88efa30e8d704c1aa5c264018fd25a014b756f612705b29c0

By definition, HYIPs can only run for as long as new money streams in. With centralized HYIPs, best case scenario you come in early and make a little bit. Worse case scenario, admins run with the funds.

Decentralized doesn't inherently make it better - lots of scams on Tron, for example, because people don't look at the code and blindly trust websites changing functions. But with due diligence, smart contract HYIPs will play exactly as designed. ;)

No matter what kind of flavor you add on your HYIP, Its still the same ponzi business model and sooner or later you will stop paying and running away with investors money.

It's literally impossible for me to "stop paying" or "run away" with anyone's money, because I don't have access to anyone's money. Only the contract does.

That's the beauty of smart contracts: unless you believe the Ethereum network itself will be 51% attacked, the rules will play out exactly as coded.

It's as secure as a Bitcoin transaction - and if you don't believe Bitcoin is secure, what are you doing here?  ;)

Smart Contracts may be safe since it is publicly available but this doesn't advocate that Smart Contracts HYIP are doing better than the usual ones; most investors are putting their eggs in the contract within the first days after launch and don't re-invest what leads for all players into a loss. Thus, the creator of the contract and its promoter are the only ones who profit. Naturally, the cash flow must be steady in order to profit from.

It doesn't matter what method you use to collect money from unsuspecting investors. Ponzi Scheme is ponzi scheme,

And you cannot compare the security of bitcoin to a ponzi smart contract :D It sounds like your really desperate to attract investors in your failed scheme.

HYIP and Ponzi schemes are scam. It's either you earn money or lose your money. It's best to keep away from it and never get your self involved in such investment.

Remember earning money from hyip is like stealing money from other people, since the nature of the hyip is people get paid from other peoples investment.

No matter if you win or lose in hyip, Only the hyip owner wins in the end together with his circle of friends.

you are dealing with dishonest, people ready to stole big amount of money to run away.
Did you think is a sustainable way to earn (even if this could be called a way to earn?)

Yes, it is possible if you have a good strategy and you know how to analyze this kind of projects. I've once met a person that regularly made profits out of HYIP's and that's because he knew how to choose the right project, when is a good time to invest and when to withdraw from that project so that he ends up with a good profit or a small loss. Anyway, even if you are an expert in this kind of investments the risks are still very high and it's your choice if you want to take them or not.

these big thing ten years ago or so. only people make money is early ones who leave before scam. pobble remember 12dailypro with egold payments! they made millions before they ran out Ponzi money.

12dailypro was the biggest autosurf and billions of money was siphoned out by its project admins. It was then followed suit by other autosurf websites that promised the same 12% daily for 12days. Now HYIP market is dying and only a few fool and newbies play in this dirty market.

Yes, that is true but you got to be the fastest to exit out early. Like invest this day and get all of your roi after one month and never come back. HYIPs come and go and that it is their true nature. I remember a person I know who always brags his current earnings in a hyip for almost a year that reached $30k but it did not end well and the company just fell down like any other hyip.

Only the creator its promoter and those monitors can really make money from hyip, if you are an early investor, or what they call an early bird, you can still make a profit, provided that many people are coming in, and you have a large number of referrals, this is a game of early investors, when the money stops coming, the site's operation ceases.

Much better if you try to earn from other ways than trying hyip or ponzi. It is a guarantee scam in the long run. If its new at first it will pay you and then if they have lots of users already they will run and create a new theme or sometimes recycle the one they used. Ponzi victims are mostly users new in crypto.

That how ponzi works, Admins and its circle of friends make money in HYIP's and everyone else lose their money. Nowadays even the early bird cannot catch the early worm in HYIP's projects. So its better to skipped and don't patronize this type of project's.

Disclaimer:  I do not run, join or support HYIPs.  In fact I ban HYIP from being advertised on my own sites.

HYIPs are now next generation, with their own Mobile Apps, Telegram Bots, even their own ALT coins.

Another Trend for HYIPs is mixing crypto, daily payments of HYIP plans, and the infamous Binary plan of network marketing.

The biggest binary plan HYIP is Alt Neuro which just started last month.  

The biggest HYIP in the world is Wenzee and is 8 months old.  They still have about 4 to 6 months of life in them.

Cloud Token is a fake coin with their own APP.  I estimate they will be gone in 4 to 5 months.  You make 40% a month with them.  So if you were to invest there for 3 months, you could get out with a clean 120% profit before they fall.  Most of my friends are trying to recruit me into it but I show them it's ponzi.

In general there are 2 kinds of HYIPs.  Standard HYIP or Fast Scam.

A Fast Scam has no intention of putting any member in profit.  They will open their site for just a few days to a couple weeks with the intention of scamming every member who invested.

Standard HYIPs are run by 2 different kinds of admin.  Well intentioned or scammer.  Many times a well intentioned admin will succumb to being a scammer.  A couple examples (he has a trader, and the trader blows the investments away from poor trades, although I would estimate only .5% of HYIPs do actual trading), another example is if the site or script/programming has errors, and it kills the momentum, members panic and start cussing out the admin.  Many times he will not know how to handle these challenges and ends up being a scammer.

Then there are "Sleeper" hyips.  These are run for many years, paying a few dozen insiders or even real people.  They can't scam these real investors, because it would ruin their plans of scamming big time.  Once a few years have passed, generally they wait 2 years, they completely transform their site and make it beautiful and advertise big.  They boast they have been online for 2 or 3 years which fools 99% of the public. Passive Rev Shares, is the oldest Sleeper HYIP running since 2012.

Let's get back to the well intentioned HYIPs.  Some of these guys are pretty cool cats.  Even criminals can have honor.  They will do everything in their power to make their HYIP last as long as possible.  Granted there will always be losers in the end, but there will be many winners too.