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Title: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: cabalism13 on March 13, 2019, 01:20:41 PM
Moderator MiningBuddy is almost gone for a year,
Last Active:   April 04, 2018, 01:24:05 PM

Although we have Global Moderators to still moderate it, I think it should also still atleast have a specific Mod for that Board just like the others.



And if you'll gonna ask me who can be the Mod, I really can't answer that for I don't have any good idea on whom is fit to be one.

Edit: Maybe hilariousandco can :P


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on March 13, 2019, 01:24:45 PM
I haven't visited B&H in quite some time and have it on ignore, but I think moderating that section would be one hell of a job.  That's probably why the mod hasn't been active since last year (lol).

Don't know if Theymos is even looking for a new moderator for B&H, but the first person who comes to mind for the job is Jet Cash.  I know he at least visits it and reads posts there, since he's commented quite frequently about it and I know he likes to help new members.  He's got my vote, but whether he's interested or not is another story.


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: LoyceV on March 13, 2019, 01:29:19 PM
Edit: Maybe hilariousandco can :P
I don't think he wants another board on top of being Global Mod.

I expect Jet Cash to set very high standards, I would love to see that happen, but don't think it's realistic for Beginners.


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: Findingnemo on March 13, 2019, 01:32:57 PM

The man at the top (Loycev) can be one of the best candidate if theymos want B&H section to be highly moderated.

I didn't see hilariousandco for a while on the discussion,so this is right time to allocate a separate mod on that section.


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on March 13, 2019, 01:36:49 PM
I think pretty much every board (or group of boards) should have an active named moderator (or two), separate from the wider global moderator team. This would cut down on spam, whilst also freeing up global mods to deal with more important issues like plagiarizers and links to malware or phishing.

It would be a good first step to see reporter statistics for the B&H board. As mentioned though, it doesn't seem to be a priority for theymos at the moment though.


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: cabalism13 on March 13, 2019, 01:40:21 PM

The man at the top (Loycev) can be one of the best candidate if theymos want B&H section to be highly moderated.

We are all convinced of the Bot (LoyceV and DdmrDdmr) its already enough for them to work on our very statistics day by day :)

I didn't see hilariousandco for a while on the discussion,so this is right time to allocate a separate mod on that section.

Even if he's not on the discussions, it doesn't mean that he's not active or what, as I've seen his profile (and still watching it though) his pretty staying quiet as a mod.

And yeah, I've been missing seeing his Lambo in quite a while now :P



1st and 2nd Suggestions maybe seem right, though JC is one of a hell a big help for the newbies here.


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: tranthidung on March 13, 2019, 01:57:51 PM
The man at the top (Loycev) can be one of the best candidate if theymos want B&H section to be highly moderated.
You made great suggestion for LoyceV, who is the celebrity and most trusted in the forum despite of his trust point is not too high compared to others.
I guess it is mainly because he has not managed many campaigns, and don't exchange directly with others.
His wins in the ChipMixer campaign almost everyweek tell us everything.

Nevertheless, I doubt that LoyceV will take the task as forum moderators.
He is likely have more interests in his own statistical analyses.  :P

I had to wait more months till the day LoyceV decided to help me with weekly merit data dumps.
From that day, merits started coming to me more regularly.
Once again, thanks LoyceV for all your data dumps in my topic.


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: S_Therapist on March 13, 2019, 02:09:03 PM
The man at the top (Loycev) can be one of the best candidate if theymos want B&H section to be highly moderated.
You made great suggestion for LoyceV, who is the celebrity and most trusted in the forum despite of his trust point is not too high compared to others.
LoyceV is one of the perfect candidates if he agrees and unless theymos consider activity on that board for being a moderator. I don't think LoyceV has much activity there and I have a feeling that he is not much interested in that board. However, IIRC, We had a poll where people had voted for possible moderators and Coolcryptovator was the creator of that thread. that can help a little bit more.

Here is the list-
Quote from: Coolcryptovator link=topic=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5023985.msg45348603#msg45348603
LoyceV
Vod
Jet Cash
DdmrDdmr
The Pharmacist
Tomatocage Not active
TMAN
suchmoon
marlboroza
Lutpin


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: pandukelana2712 on March 13, 2019, 02:57:33 PM
~snip~
Here is the list-
Quote from: Coolcryptovator link=topic=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5023985.msg45348603#msg45348603
LoyceV
Vod
Jet Cash
DdmrDdmr
The Pharmacist
Tomatocage Not active
TMAN
suchmoon
marlboroza
Lutpin
Where's Miss Lauda (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=101872)?
B'cause in that board, I just saw pinned thread is created by Lauda and theymos.

But I will choose LoyceV (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459836) as the moderator of the board.
He always gives new good things for contribution to the forum.


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: TryNinja on March 13, 2019, 03:00:11 PM
Where's Miss Lauda (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=101872)?
B'cause in that board, I just saw pinned thread is created by Lauda and theymos.

But I will choose LoyceV (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459836) as the moderator of the board.
He always gives new good things for contribution to the forum.
Lauda was actually a Moderator/Global Moderator (I can't remember) back in the old days.  AFAIK, she left/was removed by theymos.


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: hilariousandco on March 13, 2019, 03:01:54 PM


Edit: Maybe hilariousandco can :P

Can what? I can already moderate that and every other section as a Global. It does need a dedicated mod though, just like several other sections do. MiningBuddy may still be listed there but he hasn't been a mod for quite some time. Theymos just hasn't removed his name from there.


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: Quickseller on March 13, 2019, 03:03:25 PM
Where's Miss Lauda (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=101872)?
B'cause in that board, I just saw pinned thread is created by Lauda and theymos.

But I will choose LoyceV (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459836) as the moderator of the board.
He always gives new good things for contribution to the forum.
Lauda actually was a Moderator/Global Moderator (I can't remember) back in the old days.  AFAIK, she left/was removed by theymos.
Lauda was actually fired from being a mod for extortion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0).


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: vit05 on March 13, 2019, 03:21:35 PM


Edit: Maybe hilariousandco can :P

Can what? I can already moderate that and every other section as a Global. It does need a dedicated mod though, just like several other sections do. MiningBuddy may still be listed there but he hasn't been a mod for quite some time. Theymos just hasn't removed his name from there.

Why does it take so long to remove inactive Mods? I understand that it is difficult to add new mods, but an inactive Mod ends up being a risk as well.

btw, The last mods were chosen by activities, reports in the section that needed moderation. It is not necessary for some people to start saying which user they prefer as Mod...


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: hilariousandco on March 13, 2019, 03:43:53 PM


Why does it take so long to remove inactive Mods? I understand that it is difficult to add new mods, but an inactive Mod ends up being a risk as well.

As I said, he was removed as a mod a long time ago. Theymos just hasn't removed his name from there and only he can do that. It's the same with the Press board.


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: Heisenberg_Hunter on March 13, 2019, 04:02:54 PM
If the board wants a dedicated moderator we need the Report Statistics from theymos first. That would help us to narrow down the member for the position. Jet Cash seems to be very active in that board, but is he really interested in the position and does he report the posts quite often matters first. I don't visit the board very often, but it does seem to be better for the discussions to take place and doesn't sound like a frog pond for spams in my opinion.

I didn't see hilariousandco for a while on the discussion,so this is right time to allocate a separate mod on that section.
Posting is different from moderating and being active. Many people seems to be missing that point! You don't need to post as much but reporting should be done for a person to get considered for that board!

Another member that comes to the mind is LoyceV, but @LoyceV do you report much in that section? If they aren't interested in reporting spams in that section, they wouldn't do good as a moderator there probably!

btw, The last mods were chosen by activities, reports in the section that needed moderation.
I am confused at this for long time!

What if a member reports hundreds and thousands of posts in just one section, but has never posted in that section? Will he be considered as a MOD?


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: virendarnagpal on March 13, 2019, 04:18:36 PM
the first person who comes to mind for the job is Jet Cash.  I know he at least visits it and reads posts there, since he's commented quite frequently about it and I know he likes to help new members.
Very active in different sections of the forum ; Jet Cash is nice suggestion: really helpful.  Should be considered and appointed provided he is interested.


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: Lafu on March 13, 2019, 04:28:27 PM
We have nearly the same problem in the German board !
But there is no Mod at the moment and i guess it depends on how much Spam and reports are done there .
At the moment in the german board reports get processed by a Global Mod .
In my opinion, the beginner board should have a moderator as it is the first port of call for many new users!
So Global Mods havnt to deal with that there as long there are no Ban reports , and they have time for the important things in the Forum !


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: LoyceV on March 13, 2019, 04:31:59 PM
Thanks for the endorsements :) However, Mods are often picked from users who make a lot of valid reports on the board, and I haven't reported much on Beginners & Help. I tend to avoid it because of the current low quality.
I wouldn't mind doing my share in changing that though.

Nevertheless, I doubt that LoyceV will take the task as forum moderators.
I'd love to have my own Nuke button :D


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: Jet Cash on March 13, 2019, 04:34:13 PM
the first person who comes to mind for the job is Jet Cash.

Thanks for the vote of confidence, but you really don't want me as a mod. Apart from the fact that I still have a bunch of members on ignore ( I really must go through that list soon ), I'm quite erratic, and I have some positive views that conflict with those of several members. For example, I would move all the bounty stuff off the board.

I'm also quite keen to set up an experiment with the new forum software, so I doubt if I would have the time to be effective.


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: BlackMambaPH on March 13, 2019, 07:59:04 PM
I go all in for Loyce! Loyce for Bitcointalk Moderator!! Does anyone agree with me? What do you think Loyce?


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: Steamtyme on March 13, 2019, 09:25:54 PM
I would say a good step for that board - before appointing a new MOD - would be to define it's purpose.

I like going through there from time to time, it's a decent place to lend a hand. Often you can find users who genuinely want to learn or need help and found the beginners board. Unfortunately it's such a smorgasbord of ideas and clashing motives behind each topic.

Looking at pinned topics it was great place to start, ask a basic questions, learn how to use the forum, then move onto the different boards to further develop. I wasn't around when/if it was ever a clear starting point to getting involved in the cryptosphere, but I feel like it needs to go back to the basics. It would be great if this board was used to help people understand where to post or the best place for a question if it is above and beyond the basics. We can also then provide the basic getting involved information, and have discussions around safe practices, how to use BTC, explain the difference between BTC and Altcoins; without having to compete against general spam, bounty/airdrop spam, and other noise getting in the way of the intended signal.

With at least a decent idea of what we want this boards purpose to be to meet the current needs of a B&H section, we can then look at reporting and moderating it.

Quote
Beginners & Help - All primitive questions (to pros like us Cool) like "what are ASICS", "who is satoshi" and "what is mining" should stay here

This is the only description I can find taken from Mprep's Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0)



Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on March 13, 2019, 09:37:02 PM
Thanks for the vote of confidence, but you really don't want me as a mod.
Jet Cash, nobody here is perfect or would make a perfect moderator.  The truth as I see it is that you'd likely do a good job, because your interest in the forum's well-being has been demonstrated many times, and you certainly know the difference between a good post and a shitpost--and that's probably one of the most important things.  Then again, I don't know what the job description entails.  However, I'm fully confident that you're intelligent and motivated enough to do whatever it is that would be required of you and that you'd take the job seriously.

Quote from: Coolcryptovator link=topic=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5023985.msg45348603#msg45348603
<snip>
The Pharmacist
<snip>
Nope, leave me out of this.  Why would I want to be a moderator of a section that I never visit?  Plus I wouldn't want to spoil the fun of being a member by working as a mod.  Once you take that job, you basically become the face of the section you're moderating and a representative of the forum itself.  Thus, I would have to exercise a level of restraint that I'm not comfortable with and Theymos would probably take that nuke button away from me within a week.  You'd have to lock me in a basement to keep me from overusing it.


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: stompix on March 13, 2019, 10:35:14 PM
Thanks for the endorsements :) However, Mods are often picked from users who make a lot of valid reports on the board, and I haven't reported much on Beginners & Help. I tend to avoid it because of the current low quality.
I wouldn't mind doing my share in changing that though.

I'd love to have my own Nuke button :D

No, please no!
Once we let the AI run free with a nuke in his hand (slot) we will have no beginners, no help and no board!!!

Joking aside, once we get a new mod for that board can we get another for BD also or at least get a new mod for both boards?
Every day those who get infected with topics that have nothing to do with Bitcoin at all.

Quote
Beginners & Help - All primitive questions (to pros like us Cool) like "what are ASICS", "who is satoshi" and "what is mining" should stay here

This is the only description I can find taken from Mprep's Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0)

Well, right now it fits the description perfectly because if you dare enter the mining section and open a topic or simply post a primitive response it's going to last 15 minutes at most  ;D




Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: Thule on March 13, 2019, 11:00:08 PM
Quote
LoyceV
Vod
Jet Cash
DdmrDdmr
The Pharmacist
Tomatocage Not active
TMAN
suchmoon
marlboroza
Lutpin

From that list there are only 2 decent who are activ
LoyceV and Jet Cash .Can't talk about DdmrDdmr since i had no experience with him


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: The Cryptovator on March 14, 2019, 07:24:10 AM
I don't think theymos encourage enough to assign new moderators. Although there is multiple thread and discussion but we hadn't got any answer from admin. Also I was made a poll regarding moderators selection. However if admin don't like users opinions then he should choose by himself. But at least need few more moderators in my opinions. So many board have no moderators and few are inactive from long time. Although global moderators are handling them but it would be more effective if there is dedicated moderators.

By the way, I think LoyceV deserve moderator position in my opinions.


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: JeromeTash on March 14, 2019, 06:48:03 PM
From that list there are only 2 decent who are activ
LoyceV and Jet Cash .Can't talk about DdmrDdmr since i had no experience with him
DdmrDdmr is quite active too in the B & H board. At least every single day, you can see he's presence there through meriting and commenting on posts.
Picking one person from the three would be quite challenging but all three are suitable candidates according to me.


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: AverageGlabella on March 14, 2019, 11:18:16 PM
Quote
LoyceV
Vod
Jet Cash
DdmrDdmr
The Pharmacist
Tomatocage Not active
TMAN
suchmoon
marlboroza
Lutpin

From that list there are only 2 decent who are activ
LoyceV and Jet Cash .Can't talk about DdmrDdmr since i had no experience with him
The important thing about this list of names is how many of them actually report in that board? We like to spit out popular names but if we take a look at the reporter statistics I bet not many of these have reported a single thread in that board. Take a look at the reporters statistic thread in Meta and you will be surprised by the names that come up. There is a newbie with hundreds of reports. Popularity on Bitcointalk does not mean that the member would be good for moderation work. Unless reports for that board becomes public knowledge then only theymos knows who reports there and fits the correct time zones etc.


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: rhomelmabini on March 15, 2019, 03:23:01 AM
Let theymos decide for it and I guess if he assigns a mod for B&H almost all users will respect it.

Though there are few global moderators, their task and time will still be split if they will be added more workloads. Let there be an active mods for every board.


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: jackg on March 15, 2019, 03:41:53 AM
Quote
LoyceV
Vod
Jet Cash
DdmrDdmr
The Pharmacist
Tomatocage Not active
TMAN
suchmoon
marlboroza
Lutpin

From that list there are only 2 decent who are activ
LoyceV and Jet Cash .Can't talk about DdmrDdmr since i had no experience with him

I don't think jetty would be up for that (I dunno though). As has been said, it's best to go off good reports too. Also, if jet does get it, he'll still have the people theorising he's trying to take over the forum (or whatever they were on about last time)...

Edut: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120177.msg50147284#msg50147284


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: tbct_mt2 on March 15, 2019, 04:57:43 AM
Whoever will be chosen as new moderator for Beginners & Help board, that guy should be the one who has highest or in top of highest reporting-points in the board.
Such a point reflects that he/ she tend to regularly visit the board, and has dedication to clean up the board by reporting shitty posts.
Next, the moderator there should have acceptable postcount in the board. Of course, moderator should have constructive posts (no doubt about that).

All candidates are the best users in the forum, but I wonder that they have been actively and constructive enough in the Beginners & Help board.
Maybe, after selected and become official moderator there, the chooser will become more active there.


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: Retina on March 16, 2019, 01:53:53 AM
Edit: Maybe hilariousandco can :P
I don't think he wants another board on top of being Global Mod.

I expect Jet Cash to set very high standards, I would love to see that happen, but don't think it's realistic for Beginners.
I agree with you, I think Jet Cash is always trying to help someone and try to create a strong member in this forum.
Ex:
Quote
Fit to Talk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118648.0) project to Improve your English. This Project is Managed by Jet Cash

Where's Miss Lauda (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=101872)?
B'cause in that board, I just saw pinned thread is created by Lauda and theymos.

But I will choose LoyceV (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459836) as the moderator of the board.
He always gives new good things for contribution to the forum.

Another person LoyceV (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459836) is a good person for help the forum management, she many works for this forum(and still running moderate something, and smoothy work merit system).


I think 2 person always works perfectly for this forum(Although there are many more) Clean and safe, But theymos will decide what he will do, We can only share our opinion.



Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: r1s2g3 on March 16, 2019, 04:17:31 AM
I haven't visited B&H in quite some time and have it on ignore, but I think moderating that section would be one hell of a job.  That's probably why the mod hasn't been active since last year (lol).


Even with no moderator, B&H is not in a bad shape at all.
I think you should not ignore this board, just give a chance and I can bet you will really find interesting and good topics there.

@All
Theymos appointed Flying Hellfish based upon it's reporting stats, same can be done in B&H.


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: UserU on March 16, 2019, 07:26:30 AM
It'd be refreshing to see at least two mods, preferably to cover different timezones.

I don't mind those suggested above to be elected, they've set good examples for the rest of us here.


Title: Re: [Proposal] Change The Moderator of Beginners & Help
Post by: cabalism13 on March 17, 2019, 07:29:16 AM
@All
Theymos appointed Flying Hellfish based upon it's reporting stats, same can be done in B&H.

Though, we're not getting any response from the admin, I think he's thinking that Global Mods are now just fine to moderate that board and nothing to be worried about even though it doesn't have any specific mod for it.

Truth has been told that this isn't his priority as we can see that he is not even responding. So many thanks, that hilariousandco did respond...