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I've read a lot of replies in some casino-related threads talking about how they hate KYC procedures. I get it they don't want all the hassle if giving personal info during registration, that they don't want complicated processes, esp. when withdrawing, and that they are afraid the casinos will exploit their players' details who provided their personal info. But perhaps some people think about KYC positively — like KYC reduces the risk of money laundering and protects the casinos from fraudulent players?

I'm not saying I am pro or against KYC. I really just want to get insights from different perspectives.


I combined most of the responses of those who don't approve of the KYC process in casinos and was able to come up with an article: 4 Reasons Crypto Players Skip KYC Casinos (https://www.bestbitcoinslots.com/news/4-reasons-crypto-players-skip-casinos-with-kyc/)

Also, here's another bitcointalk thread focused on those reasons: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136360.0;all

I'm mostly against KYC but its a requirement in some jurisdictions, I dont see how its a great benefit to the consumer.   There is a basic argument it could help in account recovery as the person can use their personal id to reestablish control on an account.
I would also mention a couple of times KYC has been used for profit and removal of funds that belonged to me.  Even after proof of identity was provided the company cited KYC as a reason they would lock money within an account, unfortunately people now associate kyc negatively for experiences similar to that

This is the main reason I guess why many are subject to this policy, we all want to remain anonymous as we gamble, trade or anything that we do with cryptocurrencies. But some who are in their position, are doing this shady act. They are exploiting and taking advantage of their customers identity.

Making their own database with those customers that passed on their KYC. There's pros and cons on it but I'm starting to feel off about it although I've passed on with KYC in some websites that I really need.

As long as the website is trusted and operating for years and has a good reputation, why not? I know that it is a hassle for some user to do KYC but I guess it's for safety reasons as well that it will never be exploited by abuser, cheater, or by worst to criminals or terrorist.

first of all  , i didnt know that casino/gamblings sites do also cater kyc  . all the times i thought that kyc is only present on ico before we invest and also to some trading exchange sites   .  anyway  , im also against this kyc thing because for me it only causes alot of hassel  . aside from that  , i dont also want to expose my identity online   . what  is the purpose of playing online if we will give our personal infos to some one else  ?  eh ?

There are many gambling sites asks for KYC to their players in order to withdraw. Of course, most of them are not bitcoin/crypto gambling sites. Most sites that asks for KYC is a hybrid gambling sites that accepts both fiat and crypto. Probably due to the regulation of the license so they need to ask their users to provide KYC.
I'm one of gamblers who do not like to do KYC, I'll avoid all casinos that requires KYC as I want to gamble anonymously. I do not even required to provide too much personal information to gamble in local fiat gambling sites. In this hybrid sites, players need to provide something like Driver License, National ID, Bill address, Selfie photo etc while I do only need to provide bank account to play on local fiat gambling sites.
My last personal opinion about KYC for gambling activity, it is OK for casino to ask KYC but for special condition only. Something like if the player is indicated to do money laundering or other suspicious thing. But asking KYC generally to all players is not reasonable enough imo. Small bankroll players wont do that because it does not worth the risk.

That`s the main reason why they implemented KYC. Casino`s also need to protect themselves from such people like hackers and fraudster, who can deposit/withdraw money from their unsuspected victims. Internet is vast and full of malicious people, businesses like online casino need such regulation to protect their investment.

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On the other hand they are complying to city regulation which force them to implement KYC as part of a legal business. Hence KYC is good for both parties to secure both their identity and business from malicious intent from criminal elements.

I don't encourage KYC on online casinos although if the company is based in a country that requires them, i see no problem for them asking their customer to verify their identity. Majority of users attracted to online casinos are those searching for privacy amd other reason. asking them to provide kyc will just make you loss them to other online casinos not requesting for kyc.

Generally speaking, kyc does more good since it can help prevent fraudulent activity but consider the privacy of the customer I don't buy the idea of online casinos requesting for them.

Fact!, One of the main reason why people gambles online because it is either illegal in their place or they just want to hide their identity. However it is still in the law that some online casinos should follow.

It is just too simple if you are agianst it then don't play casinos that requires it.

I don't like KYC, I like to have a complete freedom in online gambling.
Without KYC we can enjoy more as we are playing anonymously, so I believe that crypto gambling should not require KYC as that is only for fiat gambling.

I am not a fan of KYC in any casino or cryptocurrency websites (eg. exchange)

The sole reason why i stop going to traditional casino in my local area is when they start requiring a valid ID before you can enter their premises and filling up a 2 page forms for their membership ID card and this becomes a mandatory to all casino goers.

KYC is a double edge sword, Its useful for casino operators to protect them against users that using their platform to launder ill gotten cryptocurrency. But for a casual casino players this will be a painful procedure specially if you just a small time casino players.

I am UP for KYC if the players is dealing with a certain amount of bitcoins just like how exchange platform operate their KYC procedure.

KYC does more good than bad to casinos because it's usually a part of the requirements they have to comply with, especially if they are licensed and if they are operating in strict jurisdictions. plus, KYC makes them less prone to having money launderers. If a certain casino is proven to be an instrument to money laundering activities, it can be held liable as well.

On the contrary, KYC does more bad than good to players — but that is if the players are acting in good faith and that the casino they chose is not a scam. Casinos are also businesses that try to protect their own interest, so to avoid hackers, illegal players (like minors and restricted individuals as per their jurisdiction's laws), and money launderers, they implement the KYC procedure.

But to simplify things, if one hates KYC regardless if it's a process the casino does in good faith or not, then don't sign up with a betting site that has KYC.

It's either good or bad for cryptocurrency gambling site. First, KYC can prevent money laundering and consume time to verify your account for their safety requirements. Second, KYC can be used to verify your account if it's you are the only person who has access to the account and no one else. It can be also use to recover an account proving that you own the account by giving personal data or doing a KYC.

There are two sides to every medal.
Casinos perform KYC to make sure that they know who is gambling on their site. Without KYC any minor could open an account and gamble. Online and offshore gambling is illegal in the US and the government doesn't allow US citizens to gamble online. That is why you can see that many online casinos don't accept US citizens.
On the other side people who don't want to do KYC want to remain anonymous. Maybe they even have something to hide - money laundering was mentioned by other users as one of the reasons. Underage gambling is another.  

Crypto offering gamble with anonymous and if people have to submitting their personal data before starting gamble i think anonymous feature eventually don't exist anymore but besides that in my view people don't liked KYC because they fear the casinos eventually will abusing costumers datas and there is no guarantee those casinos will be honest to their costumers because every possibility will happend and with not submit our KYC to the casinos i think it will be decrease the risk from data abuse

That's also one of the reason why KYC is bad or good to gambling sites because it differs in every country where some country legalized gambling and other country gambling is illegal so gamblers have to deal with this problem to be able to gamble but some don't want to be anonymous and other want to be unknown for some reason. I also agree to pmalek for that statement which is true in some situation regarding the gamblers personal data safetiness.

WHen the owner of gambling site want to get more players for playing on their site then they will skip KYC because people want anonymity while gambling due to many reason and I don't think many sites were asking for too.Only you are asked to verify yourselves when there is something wrong with your account.

Then what are the main reasons why they are actually doing the KYC ? as far as I am concern it is because of the LAws being given by their LGU? maybe to track their payable taxes?

I am also thinking, can the KYC policy certifies a certain casinos fair policy as well? because it could only mean that if they follow rules given by the LGU then one of those might be the fair policy.

Unlike if you use gambling sites that are not certified. there is a good chance that this certain casino is operating illegally and bias as well?

The KYC can minimize the risk of money laundering, but we don't know if they will protect our data and not sell to the third party. When data is on the internet, we don't know if that data will be safe or not. That is why we don't like to fill KYC, and I think it's better to search a gambling website without using KYC.

Besides that, I think if we only want to play gambling, we don't need that KYC but if for the other business, maybe it is fine to fill the KYC. But still, I don't prefer to fill KYC.

Of course most of us chose playing with crypto because we wanted to be anonymous and we don't want to go the hassle of submitting our personal information. But the problem with some crypto related casino is that they are somewhat 'enforcing' KYC specially if you're going to withdraw a big amount.

Which for me defeats the purpose on why we are in crypto related casino in the first place, decentralized, (psuedo) anonymous. If that is the case then we might as well play in fiat-based, because it seems that there are no difference after all.

That was a best rule before, but now we are slowly seeing some gambling sites already ask for your KYC. I also don’t want to expose my identity but if i see a great gambling site that is collecting KYC, i will still choose to play. Casinos also asking for your identity, especially those who have an online system where you will just use card as a cash.

I don’t like to fill any KYC form especially on gambling because I believe i should enjoy playing as an anonymous and i don’t want to be hack of course. There’s a lot of gambling site where you don’t need to fill up KYC better to play on that and I’m most of the trusted gambling sites don’t ask for any kyc.

In my opinion, KYC, law enforcement, and the casino's reputation are closely related. I might feel okay if companies like Caesars, MGM, etc., need KYC, but surely not for random anonymous bitcoin casino.

Why? Because for reputable and legal companies, there is no (or little) probability that my KYC data would be misused.

There will be two different sides. For gamblers, this will be a complicated, time-consuming procedure and make them feel uncomfortable because most of them do not want to give true information about themselves. In contrast, for online casinos, implementing KYC can help them control negative and illegal behaviors.

Getting the point of being anonymous that's why we used crypto to play online gambling, there's no sense of being anonymous anymore if we will need to provide our personal information, I'm not against KYC as it's also gives a high chance that casinos have a licensed that asking them this credentials to avoid money laundering.

KYC has both benefits and negatives to it. I wouldn't play anywhere that asks for my KYC for sure, there is no way I am giving you my personal information, I would rather let my bitcoins go and never return there and consider that money gone and write horrible stuff about your casino for keeping my money in your casino without taking my information and I will start 100+ accounts on bitcointalk and give you 100 negative trust ratings and try to destroy your reputation for not giving me my money without KYC.

So, obviously as you can see I hate KYC as much as the next guy. However when it comes down to someone trying to steal your money if KYC could work out there and you can prevent someone from stealing your money and keep the possession of your money than it can benefit you in great way.

It has pros/cons but just like the rest of you guys, I hated KYC and if ever the favorite casino I've been playing will require me to submit my information, I guess I need to pass and go on the next trusted and reputable casino. So it's really up to us, some may succumb to KYC because they wanted to continue playing, but for majority of us, it's a no-no.

My view is that KYC is a rather annoying and nervous procedure. Not only because it takes time and kinda feels serious when you have to scan your ID and even made a photo of you holding that ID, but also because people mostly prefer to gamble privately. However, I agree that gamling seems a great opportunity to make one's money 'clean'. That's why I think that a fair thing to do is to establish the requirement of KYC at a certain amount of finances. If a person is gambling with a couple of dozens of dollars, it's clear it has nothing to do with money laundering. It is also probably so with hundreds of dollars as well. So I'd say if a person deposited more than 1btc with its current price and wants to withdraw at least 1btc, then KYC might make sense (although again, we should probably focus on something like 10btc+). But making small players give up their anonymity when they are clearly not doing anything terribly illegal - that's unfair.

Many people choose online gambling because they want to remain anonymous. That's the only reason that they do not go to physical casino. If there is KYC, then their identity will be exposed and it will not be good for many gamblers. I think there is no reason for KYC in gambling websites and this will not be implemented.

Online casino and money laundering.
It is real and it happens. But how about our privacy?

What if I just dont want my wife to see that I am spending money to just gamble my way until I am totally broke?
I mean I have my own reasons for it.

Do you really want someone else to know that you are a gambler? I just want it to be kept for myself.
Better just help the authorities by telling them if you see one who does it.
But still at the end it should not be a mandatory to play bets requiring information about the player.

KYC on crypto gambling site is not good for me, because gamblers want to remain anonymous and if there’s a KYC on any gambling site i think its not a good site for a gamblers. Remember that many gambling site don’t ask for any KYC so i think it will be the choice of the gambler.

I don't totally agree with you. Most of the crypto gambling sites require KYC only for certain levels like the high rollers or users with higher withdrawal requests. Because if the casino is legit and doing their business in legal ways, they need to follow the anti-money laundering law or they are following the rules under their area of jurisdiction. But I will start to doubt a casino asking for your KYC docs even if you are depositing or withdrawing small amount of money. There might be some shady stuff going on there.

So you're not afraid of giving away your data to companies as long as they are big? So thought the users of many Internet communicators and portals like Facebook.
The size of the company doesn't change much. It will only be more convenient for you to find and sue them but your data will be lost anyway.
KYC always sucks.

I am another person who wouldn't do an identity confirmation in an online casino. You don't really know how they are handling that information or if they will do it right so you have to trust like with everything.

This days information is a really valuable asset. It sells very well in bulk.

I myself have never played on a gambling site that applies KYC and fortunately that gambling sites I often play do not require it, I do not agree with KYC because many players come to crypto gambling because they want their identity not to be revealed because in every country there is a prohibition on gambling

if you want to live privately then best solution is to not  just gamble. otherwise if you really wanted to gamble then you should make sure that everything is good so you will not be having problem. Legal gambling sites or casinos cannot do anything about it when the local government unit is requiring them to have their KYC policy.

Yet if you persist then you will go down below the standard process which is also risky lol

One thing I wanted online gambling is because they don't have a KYC and I guess others want it too. If ever the site where I play requires KYC then I had to leave and find another reputable one that doesn't have KYC. Like what you have said it's very hassle and the fear of your information getting exploited.

Gambling is one activity to have fun, why we need to fill KYC just to get fun of that? Maybe KYC can be applied for gamblers who use more than $100k to play, but I am sure that there are a lot of people who play in less than $100k and they only want to play any gambling games and want to have fun with the game.

But for crypto gambling games which is we could play as anonymous, I don't think the gamblers want to fill KYC but as I said before it could be applied for gamblers who use more than 1000 btc because it will look suspicious if someone uses 1000 btc to gamble or he is very addicted to gambling.

I agree with you, i usually playing in online casino because its anonymous. I hate when i want to withdraw then some casino ask my ID. I want stay anonymous in online casino.
More than a year ago i just have 0.2 btc balance winning from little amount of my deposit when i want to withdraw they ask me KYC, i just cancel my withdrawal request and play with that amount until bust all money and never back to that casino.

Before i really against kyc but after all i learn all about why kyc requireing especially if the transaction is bery expensive.
One of the most important kyc requirement useful is to avoid crypto currency to use in bad activities like terrorist I think gambling site also asking kyc because they want to follow the rules of government for anti money laundering law.

If me usually i agree with KYC, but only in trading sites. In casino, especially if in my country any gambling is illegal. It will be bad if i do KYC In casino sites. Because i want to stay anonym in gambling activity and not want anyone know who i am.

I am not against casinos or gambling sites asking you to verify everything before playing, it is transparent and you have the option to find another one before playing, but some sites ask for these documents once you win some money and they will find a way to void the payment citing different terms and conditions cited in small letters after depositing your money which is unacceptable.

KYC into those casinos which are most likely involved with Fiat and i barely see crypto casinos that do ask out KYC unless on some circumstances for further verifications.
It does really give some assurance when it comes to security but asking it out on gambling space isnt really relevant at all thats why crypto gambling do boom up because
of easy accessibility and anonymity.

Yeah, right, it's like they were just like banks though we really can't stop them to do that since they were also following some regulations to make a better casino in the public eye and mostly in the government. KYC is being required if you are transacting fiat but in crypto, I haven't seen too much casino that requires KYC in most crypto gambling.

KYC verification new created for a good use only and it will be more useful father process of gambling very easily so I don't think it is a negative one you will definitely make the KYC method more easier in the future but the field of gambling will need to allow that.

KYC is not bad if the online casino is legit and has a high trust rate. It will only mean they want some securities from themselves and their customer. Its just normal and you can give them yours if you want. Then maybe theres this fraud gambling sites which exploits peoples information thats why they have negative reviews about it

And also if you do built up a casino and then decide to ask Kyc on the process then this will lose up interest of gamblers which would lead up to failure or not gaining popularity of your website.Kyc thing is only being
asked by crypto casinos when they find out that you have violated their terms or any other verification with big winnings.

I accept using KYC will always being safe and secure because the process is more complicated but the result is more successful if you do have any problems with your transaction it will helpful for you to find it very easily and it is the way to get a better camera so I always support this.

Main thing KYC should do is standardise the information required to pass.    Thats the biggest problem at present that its arbitrary and seen as a moving hurdle for people especially to obstruct withdrawals after the fact, unfortunately that can happen and it shouldnt if the customer experience is the priority

Absolutely do not agree if KYC is required in online casinos, for some reason it feels very hard to provide personal identities for online casinos even though they have good reasons such as preventing money laundering, cheating, etc. If KYC is a procedure that is required in every type of online business, I don't think that is at all interesting because online, on the other hand, it will no longer be anonymous, so many people like it so far.

Giving any identity on the internet is very risky for what I've known there are I think 3 kinds of KYC it's level 1, level 2 and level 3. The level 1 asks you to a email confirmation and from here, The level 2 will asks you for a picture of your passport, driver license and other valid ID's and the level 3.... I forgot it.

Well for me I don't think it's necessary to give a KYC to online casinos if you can play by just validating the level 1, we are not sure what are they going to do with our information. Well there's a good and bad perspective here... the good perspective is that the casino wants to know your identity to know your credibility to gambling and not using any money to launder the other one they just want your identity to use it in illegal ways.

Well, big and legal corporations in stable countries (like the US and Europe) to be precise.

At least, someone would be held accountable for this incident.

I fully agree with this statement, however in my opinion risks of embezzlement far outweigh risks of losing data. Without obeying (KYC/AML) regulations, casinos cannot be "trusted," thus there would be no consumer protection.

That's why I have a high hope for decentralized gambling to revolutionize traditional/centralized gambling industry... *sounds like vaporware ICOs
Centralized sucks ;D

It's all good from the government's  and casino's point of view IMHO. Government can say they're doing something against money laundering and they know how much players are earning and casinos would be less liable to being sued in case any player has committed fraud (for example using stolen credit cards).

I think the only benefit the players have is casino might be less likely to go under or be forced to shut down.

Well if that's required coming from their business then they needed to implement, legit casinos needs licensed and for sure it will need securities so the house needs to comply with that, KYC is understandable when it's really required, business needs assurance and securities we can't argue with that.

Right now most casino's don't do any form of KYC however that can quickly change in the near future. It will be no different than most exchanges which a few years back were "no kyc" and now most exchanges require KYC.

This is mostly due to regulation and its needed if Crypto is to have a future. Basically crypto gambling will be no different.

The only sites that did perform KYC was usually due to some tainted coins being depositted into the casino, made 1 bet and attempted withdraw. This is why many casinos perform manual withdraws for new registerants in case they trace the BTC as being stolen.

I think kyc doesn't give any advantage to the users, and I don't agree to play in any casino site that require kyc procedure, it's very dangerous to give personal detail on the site, no matter how protective or legit the casino, when something happen they won't be able to responsible, kyc only give advantage for the casino owner so the player can't cheat the system and they can blacklist or ban the unwanted player

With what I have see and experienced so far KYC was implemented by the online casino owners just like how crypto currency exchange site does (I mean they set some limit of withdraw which KYC will be ask from customers) in other to prevent their business cause no one will pray for his business to collapse and gambler need to do is always play on a trustable site which your personal information will be secure because KYC will be ask when huge fund is involve.

Maybe KYC can be applied to other websites, but for gambling sites especially on the internet, KYC is not necessary because we want to be free to withdraw or save or just register on their site.

People now want to play gambling anonymously, and they don't want to reveal their ID just to play gambling. They want to remain hidden in their place without giving their personal ID. Besides that, I heard about selling customer IDs that made me worry if I gave my personal documents to several websites.

I think it makes sense why people still avoid websites that use KYC to complete withdrawals or become full members because they are aware of misuse of identity by irresponsible people.

I am seeing this as a good improvement for the gambling because the KYC are always been helpful for most security process so it could not be refused in the future so it will be improved today as a Development will helpful for the people to understand the future otherwise it will be very difficult for everyone.

I don't see why people should need to KYC in crypto gambling casinos, one of the key advantages of gambling with crypto is gambling in an anonymous way.

In Fiat casinos they require the KYC in order to verify you are actually who you say you are but in the crypto zone that is not needed. Your crypto address says who you are as you are supposed to also have the private key to this address.

Yeah the reason for implementing KYC is actually genuine and there are many reputable casino site that request for it but personally I would not play on any site that requests for KYC, I chose online gambling because of privacy and my mind would not be at rest knowing that I have my information submitted on a casino site,no matter how safe they promise to keep it. There will still be doubts.

Thanks for all your responses and insights.

I used those to create an article summarizing why crypto players skip casinos with KYC (https://www.bestbitcoinslots.com/news/4-reasons-crypto-players-skip-casinos-with-kyc/).

Here's it's bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136360.new#new

It's more for the safety of the casinos than it's customers i think. Of course these businesses would prioritize their security and having personal information about their customers would make it easier to run after people who use their platform for money laundering, scams and cheating. And though i also can make it secure for players and users, i personally won't be at ease giving out my information just to gamble. I can understand that it may be necessary for trading sites but for online casinos, nah i'd pass.

They think first what is the purposes of KYC and what the reason for them to get our personal information we are players and maybe our money our lost. The KYC created because of the cheaters of joining multiple account in same bounty campaign. I did not play for the gambling site who implementing KYC because I have rights to secure my information because I play with my money not their money.

I have until now never played gambling which required me to do KYC. But if for a bounty for example, of course I've done it often. But for gambling I don't seem to be doing kyc. If you really have to do that, you must have a reason why I as a player must do KYC.

If you ask me no KYC for crypto betting sites / casinos needed. Crypto is made to be anonymous and until now i used sites that had no KYC (still using them), so i guess most of them don't request it.

There are still sites that don’t require KYC, in short the number of casino sites that do not request is actually more than the ones that do. I think the sites that demand for KYC would have reasons to do so, but I feel no reason is valid enough to want to intrude into a gamer are privacy.

This is a gambling site for crying out loud, and we all know that no gamer is proud of gambling and we all like to keep our information’s safe. So why the hell will a casino site asks for KYC? Well I already have my site that I play on and do not request for KYC, the moment they introduce it, I bet am out

I never had any issue with submitting KYC during bounty. I did that a lot of times also and I saw reasons why it was necessary but I don’t think it should be the same with gambling. The site I have been gambling on do not ask for KYC and I will be truly disappointed if they ever do, because it is totally of no use.

There was a time I gambled on a site and made huge money and at the time of withdrawal, it started asking for my KYC, I just abandoned the money I made and the site and ever since then placed that site on my scam site list. It might not be scam, but I felt cheated because I felt they should have informed me earlier.

How much did you won? since you do said huge money but well its your own decision and it do really sucks when gambling sites ask out verification when you do make big winnings which is really questionable.
KYC procedure would only be good on fiat casinos but since we are on crypto then i dont think this thing would really be appropriate to be applied on here and come to think thats why crypto gambling is getting bigger
due to anonymity.

Yes, once I see any casino site that requests for KYC, I just quit. I don’t see any reason why they should be asking for that, it is absolutely not necessary.

Every gambler wants to be anonymous, and there are some of us whose culture and laws do not permit to gamble, but because of the love for gambling, we can just log into a casino site and play
Asking for KYC forfeits this, and it’s totally wrong. Let’s call a spade a spade, KYC is not for gambling and whoever that introduced it to some casino sites didn’t do well at all.

I don't actually see any benefits of customers going thru KYC procedure in gambling aside from compliance with the law. It is risky to disclose personal data just to gamble. I know a lot of online-gamblers here are against it because of security reasons and also because of the inconvenience of the procedure. Online-gamblers wants to remain anonymous while gambling for security purposes.

KYC can be justified in casinos if there's a legitimate concern with a player or something of the sort with stolen funds from other places and such, and ideally KYC prevents fraudulent activity from happening, but the way it's currently used by some shadier casinos isn't good when those casinos use KYC as a way to stop players from withdrawing won funds. I also don't like to submit KYC because I'd gladly gamble on a casino that doesn't require KYC than one where I have to submit KYC to play at the risk of my identity and documents being stolen which could cost lots of money, not to mention it can take quite some time for your KYC application on a site to be cleared as well; even if a site requiring KYC is better than another, I'm going to the site that doesn't require KYC first.

There is no wrong if they'll asking KYC for gamblers if their intention is to help the security of individual funds but some of them also used it into some shady activities which might be using our identity just to hide themselves. With this some instances, I may not be able to do KYC or even visiting gambling sites that requires KYC. It  would be the safety of our own and remain at anonymous.

The requirement to perform KYC was a bad request because many users did not want to participate in mandatory KYC requests. Casino where you can find fun and profit, many users don't want to reveal their identity when joining Gambling. Therefore for funds with unusual signs, KYC should be requested before being accepted.

I’m also not comfortable to play on those gambling sites because KYC for me is very important and if i will just play to have fun, then no need for me to fill up any KYC. I understand if you are playing with 10BTC, but if you are just playing .1BTC then gambling sites should not ask for that. I want to play withou any hassle, so hopefully many gambling sites will remain fair and never ask to fill any kyc. 

One reason i don't really want KYC enabled gambling site is because i am afraid that they run a way someday and take or use my identity somewhere else. I prefer playing or gambling in a site wherein running for many years already without KYC. Plus KYC procedure is very hassle you would not be able to withdraw but you can deposit so if you will not be able to verify or finish KYC then your deposit is safe in their website.

If a user don't want to reveal his identity, then it is fine. But in rare cases, this can cause complications. What will happen, in case he wins a big reward? I don't think that the casino will just send the winning amount to his wallet, until they confirm his real identity (they need it for auditing and tax purposes as well). In case they don't do that, then the government agencies will charge them with anti-money laundering laws. Another issue is with the dirty coins. If some user deposits drug money to the online casinos, then it can cause problems for the casino.

In my own personal opinion, a lot of people do really hate KYC because it takes a lot of time filing up the form and some of them are afraid to reveal their identities or information that their identities can be used for illegal activities such as scams. Honestly, i am one of those people who don't want to take KYC procedures because i also don't want to share my information. I think it is just fine if online casino just has online registrations and not requiring any KYC. I really do understand the purpose of KYC like to reduces the risk of money laundering and to protect the site from fraud players, but they should still understand that our identities and information are more important. Anyways, I am playing in crypto casino (https://vegascasino.io/casino/video-slots/golden-lucky-pigs) that has hundreds casino games that you could actually play and enjoy like poker, baccarat, blackjack, roulette, and slots. They also offer great bonuses for new players that you can get 225% on deposits and get up to 1,000 mBTC.

Yeah, once our identity is upload to their website, there is a chance for an attacker to search the database and steal the member document and if they can get it, they will use for the illegal thing. I cannot imagine if they have a way to penetrate the website and they can copy the data for their purposes. But we don't have to worry because there are many gambling sites which don't require KYC for their member because they know how important for their member to play gambling with anonym.

I have said it is indeed uncomfortable if we play gambling in small games that have to do KYC. Which means you feel, same as me.  ;D That's why you have to look for gambling sites without having to do KYC, because the purpose of our gambling is to have fun. And I think there are still many gambling sites that do not require KYC.

It does have the potential to filter out potential hackers and scammers but I still think it does more bad than good.  Crypto should remain somewhat anonymous, if not that you might as well just use fiat instead.

We are now in a different world where it seems that the government is trying to centralize the crypto related services. It is better to use fiat instead if they all want the KYC for crypto gambling. I can't blame those owners too since they were just following some protocols because if they don't then they don't exist nowadays.

Yes, we're in world where some governments are trying to crypto related businesses centralized but not all government and I don't any gamblers will complain about gambling site following some protocols if the gambling site explain all their procedure to their player before the situation of KYC application occur.

Can't agree, despite the dact that I don't like KYC too, it's sometimes must to have in order to protect your business. For example imagine someone deposits 5 btc in your casino and then just withdraws it, how do I know whether it's money laundering or not? And if it's for money laundering, then I (casino owner) am in trouble. So in this kind of situations KYC documents are normal.
On another hand KYC can be used for example when someone tries to withdraw more than 1-2 bitcoin from account after long inactivity because of possible hacks.

Most online casinos are not operating legally so they would rather prefer to deal with "unknown" entities, because they can even allow children to gamble and nobody can point a finger at them for knowing that in advance.  :P

The KYC requirements are more a government requirement within a legal "Brick n mortar" establishment and not really something that can be enforced with online casinos that are operating from some "island" location.  ::)

no . kyc is not built for that purpose  . afaik there are more important reason on why they require a kyc  .


yes . what is the purspose of using a crypto if we are still exposing our personal info in the form of kyc ? eh ? gambling using fiat is i think more better because they arent requiring a kyc not unless if its a high end casino because some of them may be requiring your i.d before you enter and play .

The only time i see a casino platform asking for KYC documents is when they are trying to verify someones age, if its the minimum playing age based on their TOS.

Aside from that i don't see any more reason why a gambling site that only accepts Cryptocurrency will ask for a KYC for their customers.

Thanks for all your replies.


I combined most of the responses of those who don't approve of the KYC process in casinos and was able to come up with an article summarizing them all: 4 Reasons Crypto Players Skip KYC Casinos (https://www.bestbitcoinslots.com/news/4-reasons-crypto-players-skip-casinos-with-kyc/)



Also, here's another bitcointalk thread focused on those reasons: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136360.0;all

Many online casinos require you to pass KYC to withdraw funds. The main question is can these casinos be trusted with your personal info. In my opinion,  it wouldn't do more good for you.

I think some of the websites have a good trusted so far. But we have our choice to stay away from them because they want us to pass KYC. We have the other casinos which will allow us to withdraw the funds without pass KYC and I think that casinos are trusted too. But I don't want to pass any KYC on any website because it's too risky for me and I think that many identifications have been spread in the dark web.

Gambling sites needs money and they don’t really care about the identity of the gamer. It means nothing to them if a player less than 18 years plays on the site as long as the player has money to spend. But there are some casino sites that request for KYC and I am wondering what exactly they need it for or reasons why they need it knowing completely well that no player would never agree to submit their private details.

I don’t gamble in any site that request for KYC. I can’t remember the name of a site a visited some time last year, with varieties of games and I would have really loved to play but as soon as I realized that KYC Is a prerequisite for withdrawal, I just backed out of the site and that was the end.

What is good in this industry that you have an options and variety of selections of those site which you didn't need any compliance with KYC procedures, you can enjoy the games and withdraw all you want without fearing that KYC will take place.

Yeah like Freebitco.in they take bets from kids too.  No verification of age is requested.  How dare you refer me as the 2-5 year old spammer which is really the thorn in TheQuin's side.  He used fake allegations of VPN's being used to confiscate millions in Satoshis.  3 Minors, 3 Devices, 3 Emails, and multiple deposits from each.  When Freebitco.in stole the funds and refused to respond to emails we came here with our complaints.  It was not VPN's as he stated in fact he encourages U.S. residents to use VPN's to get around (Reputable) internet casinos that block U.S. residents.  When Government officials from where Freebitco.in claims to operate from told Ken to demand refunds TheQuin said he could call the police for Blackmail but was not going to do that.  Then when Ken gave TheQuin proof he was working with someone with The BVI Government who said they were not a registered business or corporation and not authorized to do business in The BVI that's when TheQuin banned accounts and stole Millions of Satoshis in deposits.  You get to see his side of the story but not ours and then we get ridiculed with needless name calling in an attempt to create awareness in what happened to us.  Another complaint surfaced where the guy had 1000 referrals and to avoid paying him commissions due he was accused of Multi Accounts as well.

Well you can't blame gambling sites nowadays to add KYC since gambling sites now accepts different crytos and allows you to exchange example BTC to ETH. If its a new site and ask for KYC, I wouldn't try to send anything to them, but if its an old site that has been running or operating for several years already, I would go for KYC.

That's the way to do it. If the casino has already established itself as a trustworthy site, then and only then will I try to transact with it even if there's KYC.

Just because a site has been in operation for 3-4 years, there is no guarantee that they can be trusted. Because the ownership of these casinos change very frequently, and if someone is able to purchase a well reputed and long running gambling site, there is no surety that he is very clean. With the amount of identity forging going on these days, I would treat KYC as a last resort. And I am definitely against doing KYC in any of the gambling sites, no matter how reputed they are.

Be careful how you gamble on such sites because it can be very risky. I understand that we bettors don’t like sites that require KYC but they are safer. Most of this sites that don’t care are not licensed and for some that are licensed they are doing it are only clashing the requirements and it can be risky. Hope they don’t shut down one day and run with your money.

I suggest you start seeing nothing wrong with gambling sites that require KYC regulation, they are actually the safest to play on. Just look for one that is reputable and feel free to drop your personal information knowing that it is safe, they only request for it because the government has a policy that gambling sites should get the information’s from their customers.

Yes they can be trusted, The reason why most sites apply know your customer regulation during withdrawal is because of government policy in some jurisdictions, the requirement of gambling operators is to verify the age and identity of their customers. And the reason for this laws is to
*prevent money laundering and fraud : so as long as your hands are clean and you know you aren’t involved in any kind of fraudulent act, you should not be scared about KYC regulation

*Another reason is to prevent minors: SO if you are sure you are of age and of full legal responsibility, you will not have any issue with KYC. It is even more risky to play in a gambling site that does not have KYC policy, because it might not be licensed or working contrary to the license criteria’s.

Yes, exactly. People will stay away from the gambling website which requires KYC because they don't want to send any document to the website. And fortunately, we are in the crypto gambling site, and we have so many recommended gambling website that we can use for gamble. I always check on every gambling website before I deposit or play gambling especially for the KYC section so I can know which site that I can use to gamble.

Even they say that it would be nice if gambling site were implemented KYC but I rather choose a gambling site which not have KYC implementation. The credibility of the gambling site is not a measure if you are going to pass KYC. The best thing is we're looking for a good service which is reliable for us. The casinos that have KYC aren't good and also aren't bad, the effect on this is having a costumer. Of course, no KYC implementation was very tempted to the gamblers to gamble because the majority of them avoided submitting personal data.

How do you know a casino sites that has established itself to be trustworthy? Is it based on reviews or based on its years of existence? That’s hell no: Shits happen in the gambling industry and no casino site can be trusted for a lifetime. They may have been on for some time, but they can decide to bring out their true color at any point.

What if the so called trustworthy site becomes bankrupt and needs to make money at a point or what if the management changes and the system changes entirely to become corrupt and that’s the point you decide to submit your KYC, I think it is risky and for me, I don’t care how  reputable a site is, if it has to do with gambling, I don’t submit my KYC.

You just don’t want KYC for reasons best known to you because if you truly desire to drop your KYC you will understand that a reputable site that have been in operation for years will not compromise its standard for any reason. KYC regulation is just a way to have details of a clients and no reputable site would do anything bad with it.

If your fear is what if the reputable company sells over to a new management entirely, well I feel a reputable company would hand over to someone they can trust , because they’ve already successfully built a brand name and they will not allow it go on the mud for any reason.

Most of the online casinos would actually not care about the fraud or whatever that is. There are actually two reasons why some of them are doing it, It's either they follow the law of their nations or they wanted to get more personal information for their personal gains.

It is really necessary for most of the trading sites because most of them registered their business unlike casinos which is in the first place it's legality is not clear.

People gamble online using crypto currencies so that they can do it anonymously. Then whats the use of them gambling online with crypto currencies if they will have to expose their identity? Again, I have seen different casinos that asks for KYC form fill up after someone tries to make huge withdrawal. They just try to find as much excuses they can to avoid paying them.
Though I won't be deny the good sides of KYC.

Your statement about feeling that a reputable company would sell over to another reputable company makes me laugh. It looks like you are not too familiar with gambling operators. No reputable casino site should be 100% trusted. If you have no issues with submitting KYC cool, there’s no problem at all but you should not do it based on trust.

I cannot gamble on a site that requires KYC not because I don’t trust them but because I hate to leave my personal information on a gambling site. Online gambling is all about anonymity and that is what gives it advantage over all kind of ambling, so I expect it to remain like that always.

That’s very true mate. I saw sense in your post. Most of the times I base my trust on casino sites based on the years they have existed and that is the reason why I never on new sites but I just realized there is possibility of old famous sites handling over to a new management.

Submitting KYC is a great risk irrespective of the site involved, What’s now the essence of anonymity in gambling? The reason I particular ran away from fiat to online gambling is because I respect my privacy and I don’t like to disclose my personality as a gambler, so it will defeat the objective if I still see myself submitting my private information on a casino site.

Exactly. The purpose of using cryptocurrency in gambling is to stay under the mask and disable every system which could possibly document your identity. Now if you have KYC on your website that is a gambling website, the number of users on the website would be too low because it is not desirable for the gamblers to click and pass through the KYC. They would look for another website with no KYC.

The problem with KYC in gambling site is that some of the countries does view gambling as a grey area and they might not be having a clear regulation and people will avoid providing their details as they do not want any trouble for having fun in the form of gambling. Some people are not fortunate to have freedom and bitcoin should help people who are living in other part of the world who does not have those opportunities and are living under dictatorship or strict religious rules, money laundering should be curtailed but the freedom should not be curtailed either.

Gamblers will stay away from the site which uses KYC because they don't feel right to pass the KYC. They prefer to search the other gambling site which doesn't use KYC because they want to protect their identity from the scamming. So in this way, I will say that having KYC in the online casino will not good for the gamblers, and you will not attract many gamblers who will come to your site.

That is right. There are even countries with strict regulations and penalties against gambling and people in order to gamble in such countries have to use crypto to take care of the transactions. The presence of KYC on certain gambling or casino sites make things messed up and these gamblers rather look for other ways to make sure they stay safe and gamble safe. KYC is for financial transparency and AML thing.

For all Casino platform that deals with Fiat Money, Credit Card and Bank Transaction a KYC procedure is a must and should be strictly followed,. If you don't want to do KYC don't play on those casino platform.

Casino that mainly deals with cryptocurrency hardly require KYC to their members and since cryptocurrency is anonymous and private in nature KYC is not relevant.

This sum up all the discussion on this thread and lets all stop now :D

Nope, here in my country there are so many online gambling sites that deals with Fiat Money through bank transaction but all of them do not ask for KYC. They do not even ask users to provide address or identity card, what people need to provide are only phone number, email, and bank accounts.
This is what I like from local fiat online casinos in my country because I do not need to submit my ID card, submit a selfie holding the ID, etc.

Asking for the customer's phone number and bank account details is part of KYC.

Big red flag for me the KYC things, especially that casino is using cryptocurrency for their platform. Since crypto is for decentralization then that kind of platform should be also, but we can't force them to submit their personal identification for KYC, if they don't want, they can use another alternative platform for gambling.

Yes, this is it. There's no point in arguing here. I don't think the owner/s of casino platforms cares anyway.


They don't have to because the banks already did the KYC verification for them.

Indeed, I am not unto to casino that requires KYC because first of all, I want to keep my identity out of this community due to some article which what I have read that they use your information to do evil deeds. Actually, I wasn't sure if this article is true or not but it is still as much as possible keep our identity hidden for safety. There are still a lot of crypto casinos (https://vegascasino.io/casino/video-slots/durian-dynamite?utm_source=ccdd) who don't require KYC like the place where I used to play, for a withdrawal system one of its features is to have a fast transaction, therefore, you don't need to worry about it. It also has live dealers thus make it 100 percent credible crypto casino.

You are very right. I don’t think there is any gambler that would like to gamble on a casino site that asks for KYC with the news of scam all over. Whatever might be the reason sites ask for KYC is not any gamblers concern.

I want to use myself for example, I have always been using a particular site, won’t like to mention the name. Sincerely, I like the site but since the new introduction of KYC on that site, I stopped visiting or even playing there. There are too many good and reputable sites that do not ask for KYC and I can’t agree to be tied down to one.

This is actually good to have such casinos that do not ask for KYC and have the transaction through fiat facility. I think that the casinos at which you have to go through know your costumer process does not get many users due to the identity reasons. This is not a problem with the fiat but just cryptocurrency because they fear you might make huge transactions.

Exactly mate. It’s really tiring the way they make it feel like it is a do or die thing to gamble on sites that requests for KYC.  Most of the gambling sites that uses cryptocurrency don’t ask for KYC and I feel crypto gambling sites is even easier to gamble on aside the KYC  Stuff.

I have long stopped gambling on fiat casino site and crypto casino sites makes transfer easier and faster, and in addition, most of the crypt casino sites that I am aware of will not ask for KYC.  Since I hate my private information in public and I love to keep my information private, I don’t see any reason to play on sites that are bent on KYC.

Indeed. Nothing can be more annoying than a crypto casino site that asks for KYC. Considering that crypto currency is all about decentralization one would expect that any crypto accepting gambling site would follow suite, but some would still be requesting for KYC. It can be so annoying and for me, I don’t go near them at all, after all that’s not the only site.

There are so many gambling sites that accepts Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency and as well don’t pay attention to KYC regulations. I know of fortune Jack. I have been using this site for a while now and there’s nothing like KYC, and it also offers too many varieties of interesting games.

I don’t think anyone is making it compulsory for gamblers to play on casino sites with KYC regulation. It is a matter of choice. There are people who see nothing wrong with such policy and that are their choice. Everyone is free to make a decision that is suitable for them especially in picking a gambling site of their choice.

I don’t and cannot gamble on a casino site with KYC especially when that casino site is now  a cryptocurrency site, I feel like it is defeating the objective of decentralization that crypto stands for and I prefer to keep my information  secret and if I ever want to release my information’s online but  at least not on a gambling site. Gambling sites cannot be trusted with such vital information’s.

KYC is never going to work with the online casinos. In case a popular online gambling site makes KYC mandatory, then the majority of the users are likely to shift to some other site, where it is not needed. In short, it will just push the activity underground and make it even more difficult for the government authorities to do surveillance and tracking.

There’s no point stressing ourselves over a casino site that requests for KYC. That’s their business and they have their reason for making such decision but whatever it is, I cannot play on a KYC site, it’s not too secured, and too risky to drop personal information on a gambling site

I am aware of so many gambling sites that still accept cryptocurrency, in short I am presently playing on stakes using my dogecoin, very affordable for me and safe, so I don’t see any reason why a site should bring a policy that doesn’t not favor me at all, considering the fact that cryptocurrency is  for decentralization and any crypt site is expected to be the same.

Indeed, KYC will reduce the number of users of a casino if they request it as the main requirement. There will be no difference between fiat casinos and crypto casinos. So in my opinion, users might prefer to use fiat casinos rather than crypto casinos when KYC becomes obligatory.

Nope i doubt it. Once a person tries crypto gambling, i don't think they'll go back to fiat just because of kyc implementation. There are a lot of crypto gambling sites out there and it's easy to just move from one casino to another. KYC benefits the casinos more than the users and players and we all know it. Yeah there's the positive effect of making it easier to track scammed and hacked accounts, but compare that to the possibility of your information being compromised when a casino itself gets hacked, i'd rather stay anonymous.

That depends on the casino/betting site. I don't think crypto related casinos and betting sites should be doing KYC, I don't really see anything good about it, I just don't get. Although I have seen some people claim that it can help us recover our account when we lose access to it, lol.

Nah, that's not true, you don't need to provide every details of your life just because you want to be able to recover your account in case. Only your email is enough to recover your account when you lose access to it, they can just send you a mail to reset your passwords. So saying KYC is for that is very wrong. Only if you are making bank withdrawal, that's when you should be asked for such things.

There is no doubt in the fact that KYC is not for the gamblers. I think no crypto gambler would love to waste time on website that requires them to go through the KYC thing. There are sites you could gamble on without providing information about your identity and that make sense.

They normally get good user base which mean more profit and prospect of new users. I do not think that a KYC would help a site get huge users but only those who do not care about their identity.

Im not playing to the online casinos who need to submit my information because I need my information secure everytime.
Maybe it is good because the team will know who is the player play to their gambling site maybe they more benefits on that but they have bad side also to us because they can see our information and ocne the gambling site is scam maybe they use our Identity to other bad activity.

All the 4 listed reasons why people does not want KYC is correct.
Crypto casinos is popular because they don't enforce KYC and that gives us full freedom here.
With this lack of regulation, it's all favorable for both as casinos can attract more gamblers, while gamblers have the convenience in gambling.

I think it should not be obligatory because the most important in online casinos is they operate legally and they have licenses. Another thing, there's a lot of bigtime gamblers does not gamble only on one site. It is easy for them to try other sites when they feel that they don't have the luck  when they are playing on those.

I have a mixed opinion regarding this move. Even if we submit the KYC documents, I don't think that the casinos will share them with the authorities unless there is a valid reason to do so. If KYC requirement helps the casinos to get the necessary licenses and tax breaks from the government, then let them do it. The vast majority of the online casinos are owned by honest people.

Yes, gamblers will stay away from the gambling website which has KYC, and they will search on the other gambling site. With so many recommended gambling website, I am sure we can find the site that will suit us, and we don't have to bother with the KYC process. The gambling website owner should think like gambler sides, did he wants to do the same thing if KYC is needed?

You are very much on point mate. Nobody will visit a city and still consider going back to a remote town or village. That is the difference between Fiat and crypto gambling. The kyc regulation can actually be very frustrating but it is not enough for a player to want to go and gamble with fiat, its not like there are no other of casino sites that do not ask for KYC, I still no some where I play my games without KYC

I have been running away from all the casino sites that ask for KYC because I feel it is not safe for me, like you have said, what if something happens to the site, maybe hacked, so I have to risk my information been exposed? That’s hell NO.

That is pretty right. There are always some alternative you could go for if you find few sites that require you to pass KYC. To be honest, the use of crypto in gambling is felt only when some one does not want his or her identity to be disclosed and wants to gamble anonymously. Crypto comes to rescue in such a situation and KYC can really spoil your joy.

See how you humorously spilled out the truth. The difference between fiat gambling and crypto gambling is obviously clear and no one would ever choose fiat over crypto. I really do know why some crypto sites are beginning to introduce KYC regulation. Two among the sites I checked to play yesterday asked for it but my joy is that I still found one with good games that didn’t ask me for it.

Even though nothing would happen to the site or there is no possibility for it to be hacked, I don’t see any reason for KYC on a crypto site. What’s now the decentralization in cryptocurrency? I am truly of the opinion that there shouldn’t be KYC in a crypto gambling site. It is not necessary.

Not really,some of the most reputed crypto gambling sites in this forum didn't have any legal authority from their respective government which got into attention just recently so they are not going to give some of their profits to their government when there is no necessary to do it.KYC is just like extra requirement to have while we earn huge rewards and want to withdraw it.

When did KYC helps casino get some tax breaks from government? KYC is just a method to verify someones identity to make sure they are not dealing with a money launderer and to check if a real person is behind the keybaord.

KYC should only be made mandatory for random age checks and for big whales that playing with big amount.

Agree with your view becasue nobody will like to put or stick out his her neck for the government to catch while doing gambling online, especially those regions that disallow gambling for her citizens. In my country, gambling is highly prohibited but, due to the cryptocurrency we can hidling gamble online without any fear from the gambling platforms, because KYC is not involved, if there is KYC, there will be no registration from me. 

but with these benefits it do really have some sort of disadvantage where gambling sites can easily scam its users funds without
having a fight yet these places aren't regulated which means if theres some sort of shady act on their side theres nowhere you can
run as a player this is why its important to choose up the best among the rest.

Actually people these days are more concerned about their security than the money they can make over a gambling site if they click on KYC. To be honest, I am more concerned about this security thing after Binance got hacked. There could be a security breach and if your details are exposed over a site, they could be used for worst intentions. In addition, no one would love to disclose his/her identity and here crypto helps a lot and gives you an option for do so. The general response of gamblers to sites that require them to pas KYC is negative.

I have never underwent the KYC process for any of the exchanges or gambling sites. IMO, the risk is just too big (and in my case, since Bitcoin is almost banned in my country it is even more risky). If someone wins $100,000 or amounts greater than that, then KYC can be made mandatory. But for withdrawing or depositing $10, what's the need for going for KYC?

For some people who pro with KYC
It's nothing to worry about as long as it keep people's identity safe.
Also it's prevent we as gambler to cheat etc

For who contra with KYC
It's dangerous to give personal identity to other platform, some people just want to gambler without identity

So my conclusion, the gambler owner must think globally before decide to use KYC

I think if anyone will be playing from a casino with a very high amount of money(via a deposit)...it makes sense to have the customer go through KYC as its an anti money laundering requirement for most of the regulated casinos unless it's below a certain amount kyc shouldn't be necessary!

Haven been here long ago, many gambling platforms that tried to make KYC as their major requirement before a gambler could gamble all failed, becasue nobody was ready to gamble his/her real identity and those with the KYC where those that had other peoples  identities. Personally, i wouldn't like to gamble with my real identity because, my identity matters alot tome life online

We understand quite right, but what are your measures for real identity(KYC)? is your KYC = $200 ~ $1,000?, personally, i value my true identity than any offer one could give from any gambling online casino. If i won such a huge money, and they request KYC from my end, then f**K them with their money, never needn't it, so, let them keep their f**king money, period.

Gambler love privacy and once any gambling site is against the privacy of players the look for another gambling site's that give them freedom, I know many share is same believe most of the cryptocurrency lover hate giving out they information in form of kyc and at that making them vonorable to any form of attack because they information and personal data is made public.

Bro don't you even wonder why other gambling sites don't require some kind of KYC? Because they are most probably running their operations illegally. Legit gambling sites permitted by law have been required to ask KYC for their clients not because they want too but because they are required by law oit is one of their solutions for AML. I know a lot of us have grown up with an industry focused on anonimity but since the government is actively being part os us now let us expect that anonimity will not be an option woth them.

Uhm, i think having KYC makes things a lot safe. But one thing you should know is that even scammers can request for KYC, and that means double for them, if you go to the extent of depositing before realizing it's a scam. They will make away with your money and also sell the info you've given to them to the dark web for people needs it, maybe for a criminal purposes, or whatever they need it. So this is one of the reasons why there are people who hates KYC, some people just prefer to stay anonymous and mot give out information about themselves to anyone.

KYC or No KYC, those who would defraud will still do it, I think the reason why many sites are beginning to introduce KYC is to prevent fraud.  And some people believe that only sites that ask for KYC are legit. For me I don’t care, because I know how to detect sites that are legit, and I don’t judge using KYC regulation.

What matters to me always is my safety and safety of my information and this is the reason why I will not be too relaxed to fill a KYC form on a gambling site. I feel the site can be hacked and the information leaked out. Until I am very sure that gambling sites have measures in place that would guarantee the site can never be hacked. That Is the only time I might consider dropping my KYC details

Its true if the casinos requires a kyc definitely its trusted and dont need to doubt or worry, because we are all know for the secure purposes. I think they just want to know if it's really you. But kyc is not need much, especially if you want to hide your personality.

Right. I think the primary reason why we gamble online and using crypto is because we want to keep our identities hidden. In other word, anonymous. We want to skip the hassle brought about by filling up forms about our personal information. But based on what I have read, KYC is implemented for regulatory purposes especially for the security of their system. And I guess it's for the greater good.

People will always have different opinions on this one because people have different point of view and that does not exclude gambling. I think, however, that we should just understand the reason behind. Besides, we still have an option to sign up to gambling sites with KYC features or just look for another one which don't have one. It still depends on us after all.

I find KYC very annoying as a person who wants to go and do things in the moment on a whim it takes up a bunch of my time and really ruins the mood i was in when i wanted to try out the website I was going to.
heck I get annoyed when I send bitcoins to gamble with and I need to wait for the confirm kyc is worse its like being in the doctors office filling out forms and waiting.
I want good instant convenient service!

It's really not up for them to decide on whether or not they'll be implementing KYC in their platform. Gambling sites are not immune to the government's authority and they can track what's coming and going inside their gambling site the KYC requirement for them is mostly used in AML procedures in which they need to be always prepared just in case the authorities comes knocking in their doors. They just don't want to be link in any kind of money laundering operations happening in their platform and I think it is fair enough for them to ask who their users are.

I know how confidential is our identity in any online platforms, a lot of people might taking advantage of using it into illegal activities. I may think that submitting KYC it is an option to us, in fact, we have a lot of time to think. Due to some issues regarding some people using different identity(or using other's identity), it makes people keep their profile at safe and submitting KYC will be a big deal to us.

But that does not guarantee that if the casino uses kyc is a trusted website because we know that many gambling sites which don't use kyc can be a trusted gambling site too.

I think kyc will make gamblers feel not good because they still worry about the thief who will steal their personal information. That is why many gamblers want to join in the gambling site which doesn't use kyc so they can play any games without sending the document. Perhaps, most gamblers want to feel having fun in the games without any matter about kyc.

That the risk that every participants needs to take each time they process this requirements, many gamblers are annoyed when they've found out
that this process is required so now most of them are making sure to read everything first before sending a deposit, making them assured that
they will not be needed to complete this process.

KYC procedure in playing gambling seems like a lot of people don't like it, including me personally. Because according to many KYC people it is certainly very disturbing to do it just want to play gambling. So if there are gambling sites that have to do kyc in order to play, of course I will never play there.

I prefer not doing KYC for any reason. I have to measure everything and only if I find that it is in my interests I proceed with KYC. Otherwise I won't bother with any website to sent them my details and documents.
I was playing in Pokerstars from 2009-2015 and FTP until 2011. Never did KYC and never sent them my ID. Suddenly around 2017 they started asking for documentation. There were other places available so I left. The main reason though, was that I stopped profiting from their games. If the same good games from 2009-2011 were available then I would have sent them my ID and any information asked.

Not only gambling , all the crypto platform businesses are looking for the non KYC option go get involved. We are not at all safe because of thatt pulling stealers and hackers.
We need to choose the good gambling without kyc. There are plenty of good site without kyc verification then why we need to choose others.

thats right, kyc can be seen in other crypto platforms other than gambling sites. i guess accomplishing kyc depends entirely on the player.
no one is forcing him to send his personal docs so one cant blame any site if something goes wrong along the way
make sure that once you fulfil the requirements, you know the risks involved. pretty simple...

KYC is a confidential documents and we don't want it to give without a concrete reason cause we know the possibility if mishandled.
At this time, it looks like KYC is required and almost all exchanges and gambling sites asking for it to validate our registration most specifically with the withdrawal. If that so, we have no choice but to submit it otherwise, you left your money inside.

You can always do a quick search about the site you plan on gambling on and whether or not the site requires KYC at any stage of using the site through a search engine like Google. I typically do this before playing on somewhat newer casinos that I have my eyes on, and it's been working pretty well recently considering people are usually quick to point out any crypto site requiring KYC. That way, you'll (hopefully) never need to submit KYC on a gambling site again.

Aside from a googel search about the gambling site , its also a good idea to read thier terms and condition or their sites rules because that will give you an insight if what they will requiring for you to play thier gambling site  . usually kyc is required tlo increase your accounts limit or if you are dealing with huge amounts of cash  . kyc is your friend and its good for you as long as the gambling site is proven to be legit  .

If the site can be trustable, we are no problem to send any document to them. Right now, there is hard to search the trustable site because we see many new sites which says that they can protect the customer data. We need to know how good they are so we don't have to worry about sending the document to them. As long as we can search and get good reviews from the site, we can send the documents to them. Yes, we need to know the risk by sending those documents because once the documents are on the internet, we will become vulnerable to be the victims.

In my perspective, it's perfectly fine and it's good for both users and the gambling sites. There are so many benefits when online casinos are strictly regulated. First, is that they can determine gamblers that are using laundered money with the help of KYC. You can also prove your wealth that it came from the gambling site if ever people or authorities around you get suspicious with the luxurious life you got from the huge jackpot. But these gambling sites better be sure that they have an active and authenticated license before I undergo their KYC procedures.

I’m in favor of KYC for online casinos because it will make me feel secure to know that the members/players of that site are verified. Aside from that, with their information on the system if someone will do something that is fraud or against the rule then it is easy to identify unlike if no verification is done it is very hard to trace.

Good point but it is also important to make sure that the site we are dealing with is not a scam or fraud because it’s your information that is at stake. Most exchanges or platforms have KYC nowadays and I think it’s good because it can help lessen fraud transactions and can easily be traced, however, one downside could be that fraudsters can still falsify ids just for them to get verified so it is still a must to be very keen and careful who are we talking or dealing with for the security of our coins and information.

Most of the gamblers don't have any issues in paying taxes on their profits. But the problem here is that gambling is a grey area, and no one knows when the authorities will use some loophole to frame you. So avoiding the KYC is not a method to avoid paying taxes. On the other hand, it can be an attempt to hide your involvement in gambling.

Submitting KYC is not a problem if we only know what would be the reason of being required. Submitting into unknown personality will something be a big deal and it for sure gambler won't do it,  otherwise it compromise ourself in the future.
I don't think that submitting our real identy will lead into paying taxes cause it is not the government are asking for this but only a separate party and still can be out of their control(government authorities).

I preferred kyc should be enable in all casino sites and that will bring confidence to both players and casinos sites owner. We have laws in many countries that support kyc and it is better for casinos sites to keep those laws in other to remain in business. I am not going to be against kyc also as a player because I don't want to start hearing stories when I desired to cash out.

I think people are really not getting the whole concept of KC and every policy they want to draft after creating a company, they want to include KYC in it which they implement without thinking deeply if such requirement is necessary or not.

The main reason for KYC is guide against the use of fund illegally and also to guide against money laundering, in the case of gambling, I don’t think there can be any case of such, and even if they have to know brief details about their clients, I think the little registration form is more than enough for such.

I am sure very soon, the way people are beginning to really discourage KYC, many company including gambling sites will eventually stop implementing it.

And I still haven’t seen a good reason why gambler fear to fill an ordinary KYC form that much, I do that often and I have no fears since I know that I have a clear conscience and I have no worries if my private information on a site would ever backfire at me, that’s just my opinion and if we are concerned about the security of the site, then it would also be the same with the money  we have in our bank accounts because nothing is ever 100% safe but some risks are just worth taking.

I think since the reason for KYC is mainly to check the activities of laundered money, especially in crypto gambling, it is expected for all gamblers to offer maximum cooperation to make this a success because at the end it is not only beneficial to the casino sites alone but also to the gambler.

I think you forgot to add another reason which is to prevent minors and this is the aspect most gambler and I think this is the real cause for considerable consternation for most gamblers. KYC isn’t really the challenge and I am very sure the reason gamblers suddenly disappear or raise eyebrows when its time to fill this is because most  online gamblers are not of gambling age.

I know a lot of friend who are underage and not qualified by law to gamble but because of anonymity, they now gamble freely and this KYC regulation would never work in their favor, so you see why they would continue to fight it even though its for a good cause?

The reason has long been made clear a, which is to prevent those who are not of age from gambling and also to control fraudulent activities in the gambling sector, I am sure if it was in the power of the casino owners to stop implementing it they would have done that sine they know so well that gamblers don’t really like this policy but it’s a policy made by government and its needed for some casino sites to be licensed.

I also do not really have any challenge with the policy, except for the fear of having the information leaked someday but then I am sure that would be impossible.

If the main intention is to prevent under-age players from participating in gambling, then I would say that KYC will be having hardly any impact. I have seen kids as young as 12 years using the Tor browser in my city. Don't you think that they will be tempted to use illegal gambling sites (where KYC is not required) in case the legal ones ask for KYC?

Who knows if these kids are really into that?

The minds of these kids today are hard to predict, they are up to something new although they are aware that it might harm themselves. There are legit sites that does not require KYC too.

When you say legit, do you mean legal? Or licensed? Please cite those "legit sites."

I THINK YOU AND I SHOULD KNOW BY NOW THAT THERE ARE NO TRUSTED casino sites, they might be fair in dealings but never to be trusted and moreover, casino sites are always vulnerable to hacking, so what happens when the site is hacked and the kept  information leaked? To me, this is even my major and only fear.

I have nothing against KYC agenda but as long as gambling is being played online and with involvement of crypto gambling, it will  ways be difficult to convince gamblers on KYC because what crypto stands for is anonymity and tis shouldn’t be compromised, I will never see myself gambling on a kyc regulated site.

Yes, combination of that.

Not a scam, has a license, has a trusted people that runs the casino.

hacking is considered as an accident just like accidents on the road ( e.g car crash ) or accidents that can occur in real life ( e.g loss of ones stuffs ) so hacking is not a gambling sites fault but some says that there are hacking that are intended or should i say inside job on other words  but i believe that that can rarely occur and if it occurs , i think it only happen on unreputable gambling sites .


same here  . i dont also gamble on site that requires a kyc/aml because the main reason why i use crypto is because of anonimity . i dont want to publicitize my identity not even on a gambling site that requires registration and i also hide my ip address  but like you , im not totally against kyc's  . i like the agenda of kyc  .

You call those vital information they do ask in their KYC ordinary? You see reason why many people shy away from this KYC is not because most of them have skeleton in their cupboard or they are just trying to reject it for no reason, if the KYC was requested by government site, you will see that many people will have no single challenge with it, but we have lots of bad people in this crypto industry that would use one’s information for something that his different from the main purpose for which genuine company do request KYC for. Moreover, I really do not see much reason for any gambling site to request for KYC.

Indeed, you were right. I also don't want gambling site that having KYC, feels like I don't want to expose my personal data on the gambling industry. People now are always hesitated to pass KYC due to recently a lot of projects are almost scam, so as much as we have to avoid that KYC we will do. Well, for me it is a bad idea that the gambling industry will implement KYC because gambling is not an investment just like ICOs.

There is no need of fulfilling the KYC to play on casinos, but to stay away from issues on withdrawal and deposit KYC procedure fulfillment is a must. Not all gambling websites request to fulfill KYC while majority of the services that keeps on regulating the KYC fulfillment is the exchanges as more ad more regulation is happening with the cryptocurrency related services.

They have such reason for this, you have no choice but to fulfill what they are asking for the KYC or else your money will be stuck on them for a long time if you don't want to follow what they say about KYC.
The solution for this, choose those casinos that doesn't really require this or ask majority of the people in the community regarding their experience specifically about those casinos that requires it.

You have a good point and it’s true that some gamblers are against the implementation of KYC because of their age but don’t forget that the number of qualified gamblers who are going against this KYC implementation is quite higher that the minors you talked about and what this implies is that generally, gamblers are just against KYC for very good reason.

I think one of the most basic reason for this remains that they have the mindset generally that their information submitted on gambling sites, stands a chance of being ex[posed if the site ever gets hacked which is very possible.

The main purpose of the KYC procedure is not to prevent underage users from gambling. It is just an excuse given by the authorities to implement KYC. If the underage players want, they can easily do gambling using the illegal or semi-legal sites, where no KYC rule is being followed. But the disadvantage is that such websites may be involved in money laundering and other suspicious activities and the government will be indirectly giving more business to them.

You're right and wrong because the cases of KYC don't only occur when the authorities are trying to give an excuse because we both know that some people did abuse the decentralization system of crypto currency but the issues of KYC usually happen in gambling when the player wins a huge fund so the company decide to ask for the KYC in case of any future problem may arise and they have to protect their business.

You got some point but actually if the said gambling site do forseen such possible problem ahead in the future then why not just

simply ban out those countries that do have strict rules or laws regarding online or offline gambling?If they dont like possible problems
then banning it out would be their best choice.

Kids like that are the main reason why it has become a thing of necessity for all sites to have KYC regulation. Don’t worry, its just a matter of time and I believe it would become mandatory for all genuine site and every gambler would have no choice than to adapt too this and for those who still find it difficult, they might be left between the option of either obeying or going to play on scam sites while they stand the risk of losing their money.

For those minors, by the time there is 100% compliance of all sites asking for KYC before license, they would have to wait till they are of gambling age or otherwise go to play on scam sites and lose all their money.

Just and excuse or additional reason but the main one still according to the enforce laws that catering where the site are being registered, they are in need
of providing information as taxes will be needed to be implement, the business can be harmed by the government rules if they will not provide information to such big winners.

That can be one main purpose of KYC but I think there's more about it and I believe it's more of compliance of the local law that they have been required to do so.

There would be disadvantage for both end, users and the casino and mostly, we don't really want to pass on KYC because we value much our identities and a black market for IDs is also there where they can sell their customers identities. But if you trust the casino you gamble and it's okay for you to pass KYC it's up to you.

I think many don't want KYC on gambling because of personal detail its sounds not safe to be known the details of gamblers, and some KYC need more time to approve so, they don't want to wait and they dont want a hassle thing will happened.

Correct, let us just think of the safety of our assets, if the side has good reviews then I think it is something that we can entrust our identities with, for me it is better safe that feel sorry in the end. Having KYC is good in the sense that if something bad or unlawful happened then they can easily locate the person involved.

That is what I am thinking so far. With the KYC, they have our identity, and they can use it for everything, and besides that, the casino sites can be the next target of hacking. We don't know how they can protect their site from the hacking because everything on the internet can be vulnerable.

I guess many gamblers will agree to choose the gambling site without needed KYC because they want to protect their identity and they don't want to be the target. We are glad that with cryptocurrency, we can save our identity from the hacking because we don't have to send any document to the site. That is one of the advantages of cryptocurrency which we can get it, and the gamblers can feel safe.

There should be an option, you will not go through KYC, as long as you are not going to withdraw a very huge amount, and the players should know that so he can control his withdrawal and playing time, but they should also offer more perks and premium to players who want to do KYC.

KYC procedure is necessary for fiat based gambling sites in order to provide info when authorities suspect of money laundering as many people have used casinos to whiten their black money. In case of crypto, crypto currency are just tokens that are traded in and out of fiat so when they are monitoring fiat, they don't need to monitor crypto. They are just like chips in casino.

Gambling is not regularized so there is no point in getting kyc from the gamblers. Most gamblers do not go in physical casino and prefer online casino because they do not want to disclose their identity. If sites will demand kyc, many gamblers will move to other sites which do not ask for gambling. There are unlimited number of gambling sites so even if few ask for kyc, we can skip them.

We can't really tell but one thing I do know for sure is that Bitcoin was made to be anonymous and if any casino wants to be allowing their players to bet with Bitcoin, I think they should allow those people an option to remain anonymous if that's what they would like to do. There's no point in forcing people to give up their info when you' already know what cryptocurrency is all about. It's only those that wants to be receiving their payment through banks and methods similar to that should be doing KYC as a must.

It seems to me that the requirements to provide passport data from investors and traders give a certain degree of security in the international format so that attackers could not use the activity on the cryptocurrency market for their criminal purposes.  But if we talk about KYC for gamblers, here in my opinion there is no danger and it definitely makes sense to pass passport control on.  Online casinos will only scare away gambling cryptocurrency users from their gaming resource.

Just like the option that Binance allows for the users that don't want to pass on their KYC. They limit up to 2 BTC amount of withdrawal but that's not how the casino regulations work, they have their own way of implementing KYC.

The only option that you can do is not to use them or follow their regulation if you want to pursue your withdrawal. You can pass on to their KYC and once you have your money, you can now have the option to stop using them.

There is the words, "as long as"
I want KYC procedures because I am not a criminal to hide my personality. But due to the fact that owners as well as scammers can use our identity to front or to make it as victim of exploitation then it can harm us. Yes, it good to have KYC as long as it will be used in good things or for customers identity only. But as long as it will use as a subject for crime, it is also a danger for the users.

In my opinion, there is only one solution for this. The KYC verification must be done by an independent third party (licensed by the government authorities), and not by the online casino owners. In this way, we can prevent the misuse of the ID documents. Why there is a need to send the documents to the casino owners, when it can be done in a much more safer manner?

But it is better to stay away from the gambling site which uses KYC for their member because we don't want to see they can use our identification for illegal things. We want to feel safe on the internet, and when we are playing gambling, we want to enjoy and have fun with any games.

That is why the reason of many gamblers to stay away from the gambling website and the KYC. They feel safe when they connect to the internet without sending any document, especially for playing gambling.

I have repeatedly expressed my opinion that passport data for online casinos are not needed at all.  What is the difference who and where takes the means for gambling.  Gambling can not be as money laundering or receiving illegal conclusions, that is, bribes.  Based on this, the control of gambling should be in a different format, and not control the gamblers.

The link cannot be opened, please recheck. I doubt something wrong with the site or you made a mistake in writing the link.


Yes, indeed. We shouldn't be too afraid if it is a trusted site and has been approved professionally.
We can see from the reviews of the everybody that has proven their KYC into the sites. Additionally, it may be simpler than other KYC processes. However, we must also be careful when going to submit the KYC process and we must understand first by analyzing and researching the sites.

I rechecked. The link is perfectly working on my end. Country restriction maybe? Try the naked url: https://www.bestbitcoinslots.com/news/4-reasons-crypto-players-skip-casinos-with-kyc/. If it still doesn't work, use VPN, maybe?

Yes, maybe it is about a country restriction. I will try to use VPN to open it since it still cannot be opened till now.
Anyway, it seems interesting to read, so I will try to access it to read more / deeply.
Thank you mate.  ;)

Its a double edged sword, maybe for now most of us see that its bad because most of us are here to be anonymous, we don't want to be known but if we look at the current trend in online casinos, they are starting to add functions to exchange from BTC to ETH and to other coins. If the government where that casino is registered started to be strict, they might ask casinos to implement it or bust.

so you are saying that they are adding a kyc because that is a new function just like when they add new coins on thier gambling site ? kyc is not a function because its not mandatory for every gamblers rather its only required when a gambler wants to increase its  limits ( ex. if he want to deposit or withdraw huge amount of btc in his account ) that is to know if he is legit or a fraudster  . 

they ask kyc so that they can trace those criminal if ever they get away with the huge amount of money  .

Correct! Although for example our data is currently used for good purposes, but who knows if in the future people who have access to the database will use it for other things for their own benefit. Once we send our identity, fear will still haunt especially for those who live in areas where gambling is prohibited.

Crypto, for me is synonymous with anonymous so why their is no point on giving up our KYC on online gambling casinos. This might be use for illegal activities in the future if their casino will shut down. We seldom see online casinos asking for KYC by the way as they all know that customers will stay away from them.

Initially, the provision of passport data, abbreviated as KYC, means that the resource must know its users by sight.  But this primarily concerns those who invest their funds in order to either increase them or exchange them for the same amount but in a different currency.  But if it comes to gambling, then betting a gambler 50 to 50 or get a win or lose down.  Thus, it cannot be assumed that an attacker using a casino will be able to launder bad money.  Therefore, in my opinion, KYC is unnecessary.

This is part of problem with every crypto platform where they will do verification by their own rather than through just one trusted third party which increases a risk of data leak. Where I live now have one or two KYC verifier running under government constant observation, these third party is used in almost every websites or businesses that need to keep user information including local crypto-exchanges.

Haven't heard about any such organization that work worldwide and can be trusted.

I think there is but those are most likely not based on online organization and it is government organization.
But it is different from gambling industries, gamblers always avoiding KYC because they want to be anonymous especially there family, they don't want exposure to others because as of now some people think that gambling is having a bad reputation to others. And another reason involves risk on your identity which is you don't know if that site legit or not and steal your identity.

It's good for the site, they can prevent people who cheating on ther site by creating multiple accounts. But it's not good for the gambler, their Identity already known and they don't know what will happened with their ID in that gambling site

I can not even imagine the use of providing passport data for online casinos.  In turn, I still want to mention the fact that real Casinos always monitor their visitors, and if a fraudster is identified, who the person is is entered into the database and the gunshot is not allowed to go to the gaming halls.  Of course for this you need to know the person completely.

KYC is an advantage of the gambling site.

A gambling site is secured with a KYC, as they said it to me but as you've said, I don't even know where my information goes. The site knows your information, unless you are serious with your gambling, I think you don't need to send your information to them. Most of the sites I used to play is all legitimate even though they don't require KYC.

if your serious playing gambling with them then why dont you trust them with your kyc ? you shouldnt only do kyc on a site that you dont trust with  . kyc is an advantage on both gamblers and gambling site owners because if your a player you can get your account fully verefied and that also unlock more rewards for you  . if your verified other gamblers can also trust you and they can make a deal for you inside or outside the gambling place  .

How they can determine if their user is a fraudster? if he can't provide the KYC they are trying to ask? Opinions are shown that there were gamblers here that are in favor of KYC if you solely believe on that casino but there were some that doesn't really want to. While the rest, doesn't really care if they will be asked for a KYC as long as they are good gambling on their casino and they aren't experiencing any problem at all. So it's up to the rest on how they can distinguish their view about that.

I think he should not do kyc on the site which he doesn't trust because of that will be too risky for him and we don't know how good their site in securing the customer data. But if he has a trusted website, then I think that will not be a problem for him to do kyc. As long as the site has a good reputation among us and they are recommended by another gambler, we can do kyc without worry.

Make sure you know what you do when you send your document in any of gambling site or another site because your data will not always be safe on the internet.

Rewards for KYC? I have never heard that there are some rewards for doing KYC, at least if we are talking about crypto gambling sites. Since we are in crypto gambling world where one of the main advantage is about its anonymity, there is no good reasons for doing KYC imho. I will only do KYC if the site ask me to confirm my withdrawal once I win big, otherwise I wont do KYC for other reasons.

Most of these KYC accepting gambling platform's are not just going to deraile your sincere submission of your KYC but will eventually sell out your KYC, which is more reason gamblers online avoid them by all means because they cannot be trusted for a second. Personally I wouldn't gamble on a platform that require KYC before deposit or after deposit.

But most reputable gambling sites now require KYC now, and possibly the others will follow. It's a life-changing with gambling if they all require KYC, we have no choice but to follow their rules or stay away from online gambling. Anyway, we have that offline casino where we can still gamble. This won't be a big problem for us and not a big issue to take seriously.

In order to encourage the KYC, the gambling sites can give bonus or freeplays for those who successfully completes the kyc. Although I am not a big fan of kyc but this method of promoting kyc can be effective and many people may consider themselves for kyc just to gain these additional benefits.
Without such benefits, I think no one will be willing to do kyc on gambling sites.

Indeed, gambling platforms that had implemented KYC are not tempted to the gamblers to visit, besides they are avoided to them. The good thing is that always read the FAQ and ask before you deposit in a gambling site because it is hard also to withdraw if you bypass KYC procedures. Well, the perspective view of gamblers that gambling platform has KYC is bad for them.

KYC done to any site or anywhere if it is not registered by the authority or by the government could be harmful as you might not know where those data could be misuse and how it can effect you. So people do not prefer to use such types of sites where KYC is required.

I agree with you on this.  But such practices by unregistered companies are no different than practices by registered ones. Am not sure if there is law against inappropriate use of people's  identities by registered companies otherwise big sites that have been caught misusing private informations would have been penalized

To become safe our details you can avoid the gambling site who needs KYC because many gambling sites now who are legit and trusted but they did not asking to us about KYC so don't choose some gambling site with KYC. Your protection is depends to you so if you want anonymous player just skip the KYC and don't play there very simple no need to think just ignore them.

exactly,  I wanna know where is gambling sites that need KYC? because I never meet a gambling site that needs KYC. there are many gambling sites, I suggest you guys if you wanna make a bet, choose the site that not needs KYC.

It can be used in blackmail too if you have a lot of winnings in their platform. Those devs will easily control their participants in case there's a bankruptcy happened because the user is good at the game and keep winning. I hate platform that has KYC because there's a lot of fraud happening right now especially on the internet. 

Yes, for that reason, the gambler will stay away from the gambling site which using kyc because they don't want to use their personal identity to play gambling. They only want to enjoy the game, chat with some friends, or just visiting the website so they know if there is a new update from the site. But there is a gambler who is okay with the kyc and they send their document to them because they believe with the security of the site.

Consider that too, it can be used to do some bad things if ever you win big amount, the site who's asking for your information can delayed your
withdrawals asking for things which should not be bothered being ask but you don't have choose but to follow.

777coin doesn't require any KYC and I don't see why every gambling site should end uo requiring one.
There might be countries that require it, sure, but there are probably some who don't care. There might even comes a  time when everywhere it's necessary to have KYC and they IP block sites that do not require, but this doesn't mean there are no way around it.

PirateBay and the likes of it have been targeted multiple times for example, yet many of them continue to operate just fine.

Agree, it is not good to get in something anonymous because anyone can scam on you, there are so many people who are only in search of people who can take advantage of other peoples innocence and then get vanish so make sure if you are investing the site must need KYC and is athoritiezed from government of the area because it is safe.

Supposedly it should be, but as I observed now there is a huge numbers of gambling site are requiring KYC upon registration and it is our call to decide of giving our personal identities or skip. And the fact that they require KYC, we have no choice but to follow if we wanted to be. But anyway, they aren't forcing us to join with, its still depending on our decision.

I don't think all cannot be trusted it's just that it is very risky because the site can be hacked, so if the sites system will be hacked then they can get the information for KYC which scammer can use to scam other people, that is why most gamblers don't like KYC. Though it is good for added security but it has risk of being exposed if the site security isn't that strong.

For me if the KYC is required and been updating for the players and being there from the start I think this is good to protect the players though sometimes this has been used to take advantages for others

I know this is against the anonymity of cryptonians

KYC is one big shit! Casino doesn`t protect you with KYC, they protect themselves. I promise myself that I will never gamble again in fiat casino or any casino that asks for KYC. I feel protected only when I have control of my coins, it`s when I have my coins in wallet with private keys, when I deposit I wish that to be instant, same like when I withdraw. Until now, and I gamble with crypto more than 4 years, with fiat even longer, only tron is fast enough and with tron live your deposits and withdraws are instant.

I understand that in many bitcoin investments like ICO or IEO we need to passed KYC as mandated by every jurisdictions but I dont understand why we should also passed KYC procedures with this casinos thats totally an abuse to our data privacy does this mean they are collecting data about users of this casinos it should be private and we must protect it from data breach if something happens to this casino sites my only question is Can we really trust our private info into online casinos?

That is the bad things that could happen. The devs can pretend to be another person who knows that we are making a lot of money by winning the games on their site. They are trying to blackmail us, and if we do not obey them, our data will be sent to the black market, and another bad thing will happen. We need to be careful to send any personal document to another third party because once our data is stolen, then we cannot do anything.

In my opinion, the provision of passport data has always met with negative resistance from users of cryptocurrency.  Nobody wanted to provide KYC not only for the trading exchange when registering, but also when investing in new projects.  Based on this, I can assume that such a negative attitude of players is relative KYC in an online casino.

At some point yes there are unreputable gambling sites that requires KYC and used that KYC in unnecessary actions  like selling off our identity. But I believe some established and reputable exchange has implemented the right KYC rules or even to disregard KYC in depositing and withdrawing funds/profits. Even I myself disappointed and will prevent any gambling sites that are requiring KYC procedures before withdrawing profits or capital. Well, some gamblers doesn't care with KYC thing but I do.

This is the case like FB which had all the data and had sold out data to their party and made money on our behalf . Also they did not even compensated the users whose data was leaked . And same could be the scenario here as well and thus people now avoid anything where KYC comes in .

Let say you are gambling on one of trusted gambling sites (it's either Primedice, Bitsler, Yolodice, Bitdice, Stake), after you won some amount and you decided to withdraw your money, but you have told to pass KYC first before you can withdraw your money, What will you do? That's why there is no 100% right answer about this.

Customer disputes with online casinos very often appear, and if it’s still a big win in Sumy, then you can solve this problem with the help of lawyers.  If there are specific names that are documented, then this dispute can be resolved much easier.

I think not all lawyers can help him because only a few lawyers that understand and know about cryptocurrency. Besides that, the customer will think twice to do KYC and if they think that it is important to KYC, then they will do it as soon as possible. But for the gambling games, we know that many gamblers avoid the gambling website which applied KYC because, for them, that is not too important. They don't have any reason to KYC as they only want to play gambling in their spare time.

I prefer not to pass my personal info just to gamble especially in crypto related casinos.

There are plenty of sites not enforcing kyc so if you want to remain anonymous you have an option.

Kyc might have an advantage for owners/gamblers to protect them incase something went wrong to their account but it should be not mandatory.

you can because there are gambling sites that do not ask for sign up rather they provide auto generated names . you can use those to login instantly and play the game directly without any hassel  .


it should be mandatory if this is the only way to help thier site .  kyc is not only beneficial for them but its also beneficial for thier costumers becuase when we do kyc our accounts limit will increase or will become permanently unlimited .

Most gamblers want that and we can do that if the casinos are not regulated, good for both the casino and the gamblers although the risk is on our part.
Unregulated casinos operates through their reputation only, and they can enjoy their profit as they are not paying tax on anything, the only risk from us is if the gambling site will go dark and scam us, we have no option but to accept our loses and move on.

KYC is always a problem here, it is very sensitive in the crypto world when everything around crypto is related to law and all properties in crypto are protected with KYC information, the use of KYC is always encouraged to use in a limited way, rather than a popular offering. So online casinos asking KYC is unnecessary when most people just want to entertain and if they are lucky, they can earn some rewards from it, KYC procedure create too much pressure and risk for players, the casino should only ask KYC for players with large amounts of money, it would be more appropriate

I don't think it is a problem if we are doing this for the seek that it will give us security cause mostly we are thinking that they'll use it for illegal activities.
What we are looking now is that we can gamble without the hassle of KYC submission. But of course, we have that option to take and it is in our decision if we do it or find another.