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June 24, 2019, 11:16:29 PM
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As long as the website is trusted and operating for years and has a good reputation, why not? I know that it is a hassle for some user to do KYC but I guess it's for safety reasons as well that it will never be exploited by abuser, cheater, or by worst to criminals or terrorist.
There is the words, "as long as"
I want KYC procedures because I am not a criminal to hide my personality. But due to the fact that owners as well as scammers can use our identity to front or to make it as victim of exploitation then it can harm us. Yes, it good to have KYC as long as it will be used in good things or for customers identity only. But as long as it will use as a subject for crime, it is also a danger for the users.

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June 25, 2019, 01:36:58 AM
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As long as the website is trusted and operating for years and has a good reputation, why not? I know that it is a hassle for some user to do KYC but I guess it's for safety reasons as well that it will never be exploited by abuser, cheater, or by worst to criminals or terrorist.
There is the words, "as long as"
I want KYC procedures because I am not a criminal to hide my personality. But due to the fact that owners as well as scammers can use our identity to front or to make it as victim of exploitation then it can harm us. Yes, it good to have KYC as long as it will be used in good things or for customers identity only. But as long as it will use as a subject for crime, it is also a danger for the users.

In my opinion, there is only one solution for this. The KYC verification must be done by an independent third party (licensed by the government authorities), and not by the online casino owners. In this way, we can prevent the misuse of the ID documents. Why there is a need to send the documents to the casino owners, when it can be done in a much more safer manner?

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June 25, 2019, 04:13:39 AM
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As long as the website is trusted and operating for years and has a good reputation, why not? I know that it is a hassle for some user to do KYC but I guess it's for safety reasons as well that it will never be exploited by abuser, cheater, or by worst to criminals or terrorist.
There is the words, "as long as"
I want KYC procedures because I am not a criminal to hide my personality. But due to the fact that owners as well as scammers can use our identity to front or to make it as victim of exploitation then it can harm us. Yes, it good to have KYC as long as it will be used in good things or for customers identity only. But as long as it will use as a subject for crime, it is also a danger for the users.

But it is better to stay away from the gambling site which uses KYC for their member because we don't want to see they can use our identification for illegal things. We want to feel safe on the internet, and when we are playing gambling, we want to enjoy and have fun with any games.

That is why the reason of many gamblers to stay away from the gambling website and the KYC. They feel safe when they connect to the internet without sending any document, especially for playing gambling.

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June 25, 2019, 06:37:47 PM
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I have repeatedly expressed my opinion that passport data for online casinos are not needed at all.  What is the difference who and where takes the means for gambling.  Gambling can not be as money laundering or receiving illegal conclusions, that is, bribes.  Based on this, the control of gambling should be in a different format, and not control the gamblers.
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June 26, 2019, 11:00:26 PM
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~snip~ and was able to come up with an article: 4 Reasons Crypto Players Skip KYC Casinos

The link cannot be opened, please recheck. I doubt something wrong with the site or you made a mistake in writing the link.

As long as the website is trusted and operating for years and has a good reputation, why not?

Yes, indeed. We shouldn't be too afraid if it is a trusted site and has been approved professionally.
We can see from the reviews of the everybody that has proven their KYC into the sites. Additionally, it may be simpler than other KYC processes. However, we must also be careful when going to submit the KYC process and we must understand first by analyzing and researching the sites.

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June 27, 2019, 02:06:43 AM
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~snip~ and was able to come up with an article: 4 Reasons Crypto Players Skip KYC Casinos

The link cannot be opened, please recheck. I doubt something wrong with the site or you made a mistake in writing the link.


I rechecked. The link is perfectly working on my end. Country restriction maybe? Try the naked url: https://www.bestbitcoinslots.com/news/4-reasons-crypto-players-skip-casinos-with-kyc/. If it still doesn't work, use VPN, maybe?

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I rechecked. The link is perfectly working on my end. Country restriction maybe? Try the naked url: https://www.bestbitcoinslots.com/news/4-reasons-crypto-players-skip-casinos-with-kyc/. If it still doesn't work, use VPN, maybe?

Yes, maybe it is about a country restriction. I will try to use VPN to open it since it still cannot be opened till now.
Anyway, it seems interesting to read, so I will try to access it to read more / deeply.
Thank you mate.  Wink

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June 27, 2019, 10:36:39 PM
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Its a double edged sword, maybe for now most of us see that its bad because most of us are here to be anonymous, we don't want to be known but if we look at the current trend in online casinos, they are starting to add functions to exchange from BTC to ETH and to other coins. If the government where that casino is registered started to be strict, they might ask casinos to implement it or bust.
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Its a double edged sword, maybe for now most of us see that its bad because most of us are here to be anonymous, we don't want to be known but if we look at the current trend in online casinos, they are starting to add functions to exchange from BTC to ETH and to other coins. If the government where that casino is registered started to be strict, they might ask casinos to implement it or bust.

so you are saying that they are adding a kyc because that is a new function just like when they add new coins on thier gambling site ? kyc is not a function because its not mandatory for every gamblers rather its only required when a gambler wants to increase its  limits ( ex. if he want to deposit or withdraw huge amount of btc in his account ) that is to know if he is legit or a fraudster  . 

they ask kyc so that they can trace those criminal if ever they get away with the huge amount of money  .
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July 02, 2019, 08:02:29 AM
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As long as the website is trusted and operating for years and has a good reputation, why not? I know that it is a hassle for some user to do KYC but I guess it's for safety reasons as well that it will never be exploited by abuser, cheater, or by worst to criminals or terrorist.
There is the words, "as long as"
I want KYC procedures because I am not a criminal to hide my personality. But due to the fact that owners as well as scammers can use our identity to front or to make it as victim of exploitation then it can harm us. Yes, it good to have KYC as long as it will be used in good things or for customers identity only. But as long as it will use as a subject for crime, it is also a danger for the users.

But it is better to stay away from the gambling site which uses KYC for their member because we don't want to see they can use our identification for illegal things. We want to feel safe on the internet, and when we are playing gambling, we want to enjoy and have fun with any games.

That is why the reason of many gamblers to stay away from the gambling website and the KYC. They feel safe when they connect to the internet without sending any document, especially for playing gambling.

Correct! Although for example our data is currently used for good purposes, but who knows if in the future people who have access to the database will use it for other things for their own benefit. Once we send our identity, fear will still haunt especially for those who live in areas where gambling is prohibited.

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July 02, 2019, 09:25:12 AM
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Correct! Although for example our data is currently used for good purposes, but who knows if in the future people who have access to the database will use it for other things for their own benefit. Once we send our identity, fear will still haunt especially for those who live in areas where gambling is prohibited.
Crypto, for me is synonymous with anonymous so why their is no point on giving up our KYC on online gambling casinos. This might be use for illegal activities in the future if their casino will shut down. We seldom see online casinos asking for KYC by the way as they all know that customers will stay away from them.
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July 02, 2019, 04:42:46 PM
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Initially, the provision of passport data, abbreviated as KYC, means that the resource must know its users by sight.  But this primarily concerns those who invest their funds in order to either increase them or exchange them for the same amount but in a different currency.  But if it comes to gambling, then betting a gambler 50 to 50 or get a win or lose down.  Thus, it cannot be assumed that an attacker using a casino will be able to launder bad money.  Therefore, in my opinion, KYC is unnecessary.

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Correct! Although for example our data is currently used for good purposes, but who knows if in the future people who have access to the database will use it for other things for their own benefit. Once we send our identity, fear will still haunt especially for those who live in areas where gambling is prohibited.
This might be use for illegal activities in the future if their casino will shut down.
This is part of problem with every crypto platform where they will do verification by their own rather than through just one trusted third party which increases a risk of data leak. Where I live now have one or two KYC verifier running under government constant observation, these third party is used in almost every websites or businesses that need to keep user information including local crypto-exchanges.

Haven't heard about any such organization that work worldwide and can be trusted.
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July 02, 2019, 09:59:43 PM
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Haven't heard about any such organization that work worldwide and can be trusted.
I think there is but those are most likely not based on online organization and it is government organization.
But it is different from gambling industries, gamblers always avoiding KYC because they want to be anonymous especially there family, they don't want exposure to others because as of now some people think that gambling is having a bad reputation to others. And another reason involves risk on your identity which is you don't know if that site legit or not and steal your identity.

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It's good for the site, they can prevent people who cheating on ther site by creating multiple accounts. But it's not good for the gambler, their Identity already known and they don't know what will happened with their ID in that gambling site
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July 05, 2019, 04:51:24 AM
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I can not even imagine the use of providing passport data for online casinos.  In turn, I still want to mention the fact that real Casinos always monitor their visitors, and if a fraudster is identified, who the person is is entered into the database and the gunshot is not allowed to go to the gaming halls.  Of course for this you need to know the person completely.

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July 05, 2019, 05:41:32 AM
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It's good for the site, they can prevent people who cheating on ther site by creating multiple accounts. But it's not good for the gambler, their Identity already known and they don't know what will happened with their ID in that gambling site

KYC is an advantage of the gambling site.

A gambling site is secured with a KYC, as they said it to me but as you've said, I don't even know where my information goes. The site knows your information, unless you are serious with your gambling, I think you don't need to send your information to them. Most of the sites I used to play is all legitimate even though they don't require KYC.
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It's good for the site, they can prevent people who cheating on ther site by creating multiple accounts. But it's not good for the gambler, their Identity already known and they don't know what will happened with their ID in that gambling site

KYC is an advantage of the gambling site.

A gambling site is secured with a KYC, as they said it to me but as you've said, I don't even know where my information goes. The site knows your information, unless you are serious with your gambling, I think you don't need to send your information to them.

if your serious playing gambling with them then why dont you trust them with your kyc ? you shouldnt only do kyc on a site that you dont trust with  . kyc is an advantage on both gamblers and gambling site owners because if your a player you can get your account fully verefied and that also unlock more rewards for you  . if your verified other gamblers can also trust you and they can make a deal for you inside or outside the gambling place  .
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July 05, 2019, 11:13:35 AM
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I can not even imagine the use of providing passport data for online casinos.  In turn, I still want to mention the fact that real Casinos always monitor their visitors, and if a fraudster is identified, who the person is is entered into the database and the gunshot is not allowed to go to the gaming halls.  Of course for this you need to know the person completely.
How they can determine if their user is a fraudster? if he can't provide the KYC they are trying to ask? Opinions are shown that there were gamblers here that are in favor of KYC if you solely believe on that casino but there were some that doesn't really want to. While the rest, doesn't really care if they will be asked for a KYC as long as they are good gambling on their casino and they aren't experiencing any problem at all. So it's up to the rest on how they can distinguish their view about that.

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July 05, 2019, 11:34:07 AM
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It's good for the site, they can prevent people who cheating on ther site by creating multiple accounts. But it's not good for the gambler, their Identity already known and they don't know what will happened with their ID in that gambling site

KYC is an advantage of the gambling site.

A gambling site is secured with a KYC, as they said it to me but as you've said, I don't even know where my information goes. The site knows your information, unless you are serious with your gambling, I think you don't need to send your information to them.

if your serious playing gambling with them then why dont you trust them with your kyc ? you shouldnt only do kyc on a site that you dont trust with  . kyc is an advantage on both gamblers and gambling site owners because if your a player you can get your account fully verefied and that also unlock more rewards for you  . if your verified other gamblers can also trust you and they can make a deal for you inside or outside the gambling place  .

I think he should not do kyc on the site which he doesn't trust because of that will be too risky for him and we don't know how good their site in securing the customer data. But if he has a trusted website, then I think that will not be a problem for him to do kyc. As long as the site has a good reputation among us and they are recommended by another gambler, we can do kyc without worry.

Make sure you know what you do when you send your document in any of gambling site or another site because your data will not always be safe on the internet.

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