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I spent 6 weeks working on a project called VANTA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5097980) and finally end up without a payment. I started working on VANTA since from the 1st week to the final and yet I got no payment. After we started working for VANTA 3 weeks in, the Bounty manager (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=228301) comes out with a new rule saying, everyone must trade 2308 VNT on AllBit for 10 consecutive days, if not, no payment. Among the bounty rules, no KYC - but on AllBit KYC is mandatory!  

If that rule was there from the beginning many would not join the campaign including myself. The bounty program was originally 4 weeks, the 2 weeks was added later when they implemented the new rule for 10 days trading on Allbit. The worst thing is yet to come after the bounty manager finished calculating the stakes once handle to the VANTA Team for payment they cut down our tokens from 10/1 - meaning if you get 100k VNT is down to 10k VNT.  

It's funny to see how this kind of projects conspire with the bounty managers and work away with our tokens every day. I was previously scammed in projects such as HDAC, Envion, REGA, GIZER, Confido, EOSex, and now VANTA. Now, I started thinking it's time to say enough for that.  

Note: I even traded VNT on Allbit for about 3-4 days and I stopped because I was busy working on other projects as well. By the way, I'm a proud bounty hunter, not a trader and ain't trading for nobody. Trading is different from bounty hunting. For VANTA, if you think stealing our tokens (for not trading 10 days) is good, add them to your supply and surpass bitcoin on market cap.


So guys, what is your take on VANTA, A scam or not?
For me, any project that is not legit enough to pay the bounty hunters is not worth investing.


Thanks for the support everyone.
Always remember, united we stand, divided we fall!

Can you post the link where the bounty manager stated that you need to trade ten consecutive 10 days to get your reward, this is something new to us, provide the screenshot or the link, I believe an experienced bounty manager is running the campaign.

there you go: https://t.me/CSBounty/249873

https://i.imgur.com/2tJ5zCf.png


For bounty payment: https://t.me/CSBounty/260547

https://i.imgur.com/ImETIIt.png


More proof: https://t.me/CSBounty/254029

https://i.imgur.com/1S1m4Dx.png


https://t.me/CSBounty/254823

https://i.imgur.com/FWCawsh.png


Note: Both Atul and Dan are Admins on @CSBounty telegram group.

Are the bounty hunters getting paid after they qualified and done a 10-days consecutive trade, if they are, then this fall to the reputation category but if they are not paying bounty hunters, even if they do the 10 days consecutive trade then they are indeed scam, but it's hard to trade 10 consecutive days, if the exchange does not have coins your keeping, to trade.

Bounty hunters got paid after fulfilling the 10days trading event.. and those who didn't are asked to fill complain form so they could be looked at...

If the rule was changed in the middle of the campaign then it's not a professional act by the BM imo.
The change itself a blackmailing theoretically - "Do this or Do that, otherwise you won't get paid."

But your accusation needs proof regarding the change by BM on the middle of the show...

Not only that, but this "requirement" is, in my opinion, akin to "thread bumping"... they're basically creating "fake volume" of this token on the exchange by forcing anyone who wants to get paid into creating trades! No doubt generating "fake buzz" (to apparently assist with "listing on UPBIT"), as well as allowing the exchange to skim value by way of trading fees :-\

Very dubious behaviour by the project... Making such a fundamental change to requirements in the middle of the campaign. It's classic "bait and switch".

It's a big disgrace for  btcltcdigger (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=228301) to allow this to a bounty campaign that he is managing, of course, he just following orders but it seems he is an ass licker for allowing this he doesn't care about his bounty hunters but only cares about money.

So if an ICO developers want a manager who will follow to all their wishes btcltcdigger (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=228301) is the right manager

I made the commercial event 10 days and I'm still not paid, they just finalized the spreadsheet

and even if I did the 10 day of trade I find it's not unfair

Atleast you know you'll get your tokens once the spreedsheet is finalized... good for you.. I already got mine though..

*  The bounty started on January 16, 2019
*  Update of making 10 trades to receive the bounty was announced on February 15, 2019 (as seen on the screenshot provided (https://archive.is/CEuv1/8ea9e16daae43ea91d1492f0ccf131392215d7ec.png) by @cybersofts)
*  btcltcdigger, the bounty manager posted the update on the bounty thread's main post - http://archive.is/Cv0Io
*  Bounty ended on early March 2019

Seeing the start and end date of the bounty campaign, we can clearly say that the extra requirement was announced on the middle. I agree that it's unprofessional. Also, trading is not as easy as 1 2 3, you'll consider several things before placing an order. So, 10 days is a bit too much imo (well, shouldn't have been a requirement in the first place).

It is correct!


I have seen those screenshots and it doesn't prove that they have updated the 10 days trading term on 15th Feb in the middle of the show.
It is also possible that they have updated other things on 15th Feb.

I have checked OP and the 10 days trading term is there and also on TG. So, in my opinion, it is not a piece of concrete evidence to tag the bounty manager unless other participants confirm the same as cybersofts. If other participants confirm the same then it is a concrete evidence.

Moreover, btcltcdigger (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=228301) haven't responded to the accusation yet, we need to listen what he has to say.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.


I agree with you!

Project wise, they look OK, but treatment to bounty hunter is annoying as hell. Well, as long as people are fine being told to do this and that just to get some free tokens, then treatment like this will continue forever. And bounty hunter doesn't have any protection at all. Sad but true.

Vanta is a scam here is why
1) First of all Vanta team minted less tokens and cut shares of bounty hunters here how
Vanta total supply - 56,200,000,000VNT
Total token allocated for sale 35% of total supply= 19670000000VNT
Total 50% tokens has been sold = 19670000000*50%= 9835000000VNT
They should have distributed 1.5% tokens allocated based on this figure 9835000000 = 147525000 VNT
They scammed here too and distributing tokens based on the current circulation supply which is 8808532946 & 1.5% of 8808532946= 132127994.19 VNT
The diffrence is 9835000000-8808532946 = 1026467054VNT means 1026467054*1.5% = 15397005.81VNT ( This much of tokens they scammed & they did no stop here there are more scam i will reveal in next point)
2) Almost 50% to 70% campaign participants are not paid their rewards despite their 6 works hard work because they failed to trade on Allbit. Since VANTA team is not going to pay to those hunters who did not trade, the balance amount is to be distributed among the successful hunters and this is usual practice in all the campaign to distribute allocated rewards to successful participants. Here is there another scam one of hunters fetch data from the spreadsheet
https://i.imgur.com/HewwN37.jpg

Reference :- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vSMiuPsb9PnqebKiJ285oCCbYdJfW-uYjcGeg_SXNOpq1zWafmuAKVvQ-owwqGhdZB7Yoj6n0nTRylh/pubhtml?gid=1707468300&single=true

Vanta team is keeping this undistributed tokens instead of distributing to those who worked hard to promote their project for 6 weeks which unethical & big scam. They should distribute this tokens to all participants. Since I heard many times in their community they are not going to pay to those who missed 10 days trading on Allbit, Vanta team should distribute this balance tokens to bounty hunters who successfully traded on Allbit instead of keeping that allocated rewards in their pocket.

You mean maybe they post it on the start date of bounty and edited something else on Feb 15? No, the update happened in the middle of the bounty campaign. What is my basis? See below:

As I mentioned above, Vanta Bounty started on January 16, 2019 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5097980) and to add, it was supposed to end on Feb 17, 2019 (https://t.me/CSBounty/240603)

https://i.imgur.com/TjwuniC.png
https://i.imgur.com/UBDpmHf.png

Before it ends, the update was announced that the bounty be will be extended up to March 4, 2019 (https://t.me/CSBounty/249873) together with new requirement which was the 10 trades. Check the link or the image posted by cybersofts here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125099.msg50337804#msg50337804). Idk when exactly btcltcdigger update the thread, but what's for sure is that it's not on the start date of bounty because VNT was listed on ALLBIT on January 30,2019 as per announcement (https://t.me/vantanetwork/10768).

https://i.imgur.com/NqFk8Qr.png
https://i.imgur.com/wR1ilsn.png

You mentioned about tag, to make it clear, I'm not posting this to make btcltcdigger tagged. I was just sharing the information. Also, btcltcdigger can reply here anytime to make things clear about what happened.

Bouncing updates occur after trading on allbit catch KYC. Many hunters can't get KYC on time to trade on it. Really this is a scam

Bad project ever

About 80% of hunters do not receive project advertising money for them. Ask the bonus manager to tell us that we have sent the team and unrelated spreadsheet. Just asking the VANTA team, getting the answer is to ask the manager of the money, this is really a very sophisticated scam. A large large-scale project does this with hunters.

KECEWA with the Vanta team, did not share the rights of hunters, arguing that they did not trade 10 times in a row, not all hunters could trade, and were always in front of the PC to carry out trade transactions, especially when my son was in the hospital is it possible for me to trade

but Whatever now , I think the VANTA team is a CHEAT, who takes the rights of hunters by reason of not trading

banned from group because ask this thread on group ahahaha  :) :)
http://prntscr.com/n4o8bq

The rule has changed when you've finished the prize. After the Allbit distribution, you need to fill the objection form in a short time like 12 hours, if you wake up in the morning and you lose all your rights. I think that those who set these rules intentionally make it difficult to complete incomplete requirements in order not to distribute the award. 12 hours, the objection form closing the nonsense ...

I filled the complaint form. I did write to support and recieve no token whatsoever. I tried to trade as they ask though in total less days then it was required. It is not the way it should be.

I am a real human, a real man, and a Youtuber from Indonesia. (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL2r4_BtmIYTn6DjTZsQjRA/videos)

I just want to take my rights from my job to support the VANTA project.
But now VANTA has ignored our rights (Hunter) for the payment of his work.

I will provide some strong evidence that I have done their duty for Hunter.


1. I did not ask about the distribution of tokens at the VANTA Official Telegram and did not attack them with dirty words. I just said "if I have a group that can make Project VANTA smile broadly".
    - Telegram id = @dam_six

    - Join for Video and Blog Campaign

2. Wallet MEW I have sent 2308 VANTA to AllBit Exchange.
    -  https://etherscan.io/address/0x176d3d99bebd91f4acec3b804d911cca1d0483a7#tokentxns

    -  Look at VANTA Token transactions = https://etherscan.io/address/0x24bc0d6d2fe2a79bc2206229337577b176cb9382#tokentxns

3. I have been trading VANTA with APOT for 10 days at Allbit.
 
4. I get Airdrop VANTA with a total of 7000 tokens. = https://etherscan.io/address/0x42c933d0ca6bd4872186ca808fef62b9a1cf9355#tokentxns


5. I sent an email to support, March 25, in response to the support team and was responded to by me. But until now there has been no reply.


6. My Rewards have not been given.  ???


- Where are my rights ? Where is my gift ? Where  my Rewards ?




Salaam Youtuber Indonesia (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCL2r4_BtmIYTn6DjTZsQjRA/videos)

This guy the one that started the thread and locks it intentionally in purpose, so people will not post complaints in their announcement should be red tagged this is how scammers do and act

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5125099.0

even though I have traded in allbit with the token previously given,
but now VANTA is really a scam. I did not expect that the project from Korea would end in this way.

Getting a raw deal is a different thing from being scammed. But also, what Vanta team did is an unfair and irresponsible thing.

My opinion is Yes here, VANTA team scammed bounty hunters. In the beginning, I thought VANTA will be a big project for this year because they have some big and famous partners, VANTA's technology also great and they were not lying about the visions and mission! But now, VANTA paid bounty rewards only 10-20% hunters who traded, therefore rewards amount was cut down significantly! At first, I saw I earned more than 2 Million tokens, but then it was fixed at only 300K VNT!! So, VANTA is a fishy, scam project in my opinion!

btcltcdigger i participated in 2 bounty securypto and ironX BOTH OF THEM I DIDNT GET ALL MY STAKES and in securypto  in finale spreadsheet he says I'm not accepted in signature campaign and there was no rule for a negative trust account, in spreadsheet securypto i didn't get all my stakes but the stakes i got i must get more tokens that i got, i got only 63

im sure he is protected

is that true that btcltcdigger is been protected?

I don't think sure they are SCAM, because I have been paid  ;D

https://etherscan.io/token/0xdcc27bbaa14cafd8a6aeb847e1b01c5dffb70935?a=0xd6c32837d5f2cb08eab435f68205e687cb236c22

https://i.postimg.cc/R0wsfNFC/Screenshot-1.png

Also, here the reward that I got while joining their trading contest

https://i.postimg.cc/JnZsRCP2/Screenshot-4.png

If you follow their rules, you are probably fine...

I also tend to make vanta team all unfair. All bounty participants who did not also trade this weird exchange (KYC is compulsory) came out empty-handed, I also count, though it was said bounty hunter also got its bounty tokens without trading.

After long communication with support and showing that i did trade. All what they wrote was thank you but, i did not fill full 10 days. Sort of scam... Now imagine what will happen with you investment if they decided to locked or make unexpected vesting. Company who behaves like this should not be tolerated in blockchain sphere and be avoided.

I think vanta is not a scammed but they dont show the respect of the work of their hunters, we are all give our effort to raised thier project but they dont show us a pair payment, paying 10-20% out of 100% is really bad, and they dont even give a chance to those who did trade for those who trade 9 days because the required is 10 days, the worst thing is that they change the rules in the middle of the campaign. Vanta team is really unpair and they really need to undergo disciplinary action, they dont even active on thier email i dont even get a reply from them until now.

No i think  the rules for the second bounty, and the info didnot sent to all participation.

Changing rules during run bounty campaign or middle of campaign isn't really good practice. If like that bounty manager should avoid this kind of project and should open thread on reputation about them, so any other managers will not promote their projects. Why a bounty hunters should trade token in order to receive stake? Team is giving payment for promotion of bounty hunter. So its depend on hunter what they will do with their token.

Seems bounty manager not yet replied on this thread with explanation. So I have sent PM to bounty manager, hope he will explain the story behind on it.