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March 27, 2019, 10:22:11 AM Last edit: April 06, 2019, 01:20:13 PM by cybersofts |
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I spent 6 weeks working on a project called VANTA and finally end up without a payment. I started working on VANTA since from the 1st week to the final and yet I got no payment. After we started working for VANTA 3 weeks in, the Bounty manager comes out with a new rule saying, everyone must trade 2308 VNT on AllBit for 10 consecutive days, if not, no payment. Among the bounty rules, no KYC - but on AllBit KYC is mandatory! If that rule was there from the beginning many would not join the campaign including myself. The bounty program was originally 4 weeks, the 2 weeks was added later when they implemented the new rule for 10 days trading on Allbit. The worst thing is yet to come after the bounty manager finished calculating the stakes once handle to the VANTA Team for payment they cut down our tokens from 10/1 - meaning if you get 100k VNT is down to 10k VNT. It's funny to see how this kind of projects conspire with the bounty managers and work away with our tokens every day. I was previously scammed in projects such as HDAC, Envion, REGA, GIZER, Confido, EOSex, and now VANTA. Now, I started thinking it's time to say enough for that. Note: I even traded VNT on Allbit for about 3-4 days and I stopped because I was busy working on other projects as well. By the way, I'm a proud bounty hunter, not a trader and ain't trading for nobody. Trading is different from bounty hunting. For VANTA, if you think stealing our tokens (for not trading 10 days) is good, add them to your supply and surpass bitcoin on market cap. So guys, what is your take on VANTA, A scam or not? For me, any project that is not legit enough to pay the bounty hunters is not worth investing. Thanks for the support everyone. Always remember, united we stand, divided we fall!
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March 27, 2019, 01:03:36 PM |
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Can you post the link where the bounty manager stated that you need to trade ten consecutive 10 days to get your reward, this is something new to us, provide the screenshot or the link, I believe an experienced bounty manager is running the campaign.
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March 27, 2019, 01:54:05 PM Last edit: March 27, 2019, 02:57:39 PM by cybersofts |
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Can you post the link where the bounty manager stated that you need to trade ten consecutive 10 days to get your reward, this is something new to us, provide the screenshot or the link, I believe an experienced bounty manager is running the campaign.
there you go: https://t.me/CSBounty/249873![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2tJ5zCf.png&t=665&c=d2RfXmD6T0Hxmw) For bounty payment: https://t.me/CSBounty/260547![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FImETIIt.png&t=665&c=xjOsI0RS5R1Clw) More proof: https://t.me/CSBounty/254029 https://t.me/CSBounty/254823![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFWCawsh.png&t=665&c=CwWgruYvALQaKA) Note: Both Atul and Dan are Admins on @CSBounty telegram group.
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March 27, 2019, 10:09:51 PM |
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Are the bounty hunters getting paid after they qualified and done a 10-days consecutive trade, if they are, then this fall to the reputation category but if they are not paying bounty hunters, even if they do the 10 days consecutive trade then they are indeed scam, but it's hard to trade 10 consecutive days, if the exchange does not have coins your keeping, to trade.
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March 27, 2019, 11:04:07 PM |
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Are the bounty hunters getting paid after they qualified and done a 10-days consecutive trade, if they are, then this fall to the reputation category but if they are not paying bounty hunters, even if they do the 10 days consecutive trade then they are indeed scam, but it's hard to trade 10 consecutive days, if the exchange does not have coins your keeping, to trade.
Bounty hunters got paid after fulfilling the 10days trading event.. and those who didn't are asked to fill complain form so they could be looked at...
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March 27, 2019, 11:43:13 PM |
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If that rule was there from the beginning many would not join the campaign. The bounty program was originally 4 weeks, the 2 weeks was added later when they implemented the new rule for 10 days trading on Allbit.
If the rule was changed in the middle of the campaign then it's not a professional act by the BM imo. The change itself a blackmailing theoretically - " Do this or Do that, otherwise you won't get paid." But your accusation needs proof regarding the change by BM on the middle of the show...
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March 28, 2019, 01:45:16 AM |
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If the rule was changed in the middle of the campaign then it's not a professional act by the BM imo. The change itself a blackmailing theoretically - "Do this or Do that, otherwise you won't get paid."
Not only that, but this "requirement" is, in my opinion, akin to "thread bumping"... they're basically creating "fake volume" of this token on the exchange by forcing anyone who wants to get paid into creating trades! No doubt generating "fake buzz" (to apparently assist with "listing on UPBIT"), as well as allowing the exchange to skim value by way of trading fees ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Very dubious behaviour by the project... Making such a fundamental change to requirements in the middle of the campaign. It's classic "bait and switch".
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March 28, 2019, 02:20:52 AM |
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It's a big disgrace for btcltcdigger to allow this to a bounty campaign that he is managing, of course, he just following orders but it seems he is an ass licker for allowing this he doesn't care about his bounty hunters but only cares about money. So if an ICO developers want a manager who will follow to all their wishes btcltcdigger is the right manager
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March 28, 2019, 02:28:42 PM |
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Are the bounty hunters getting paid after they qualified and done a 10-days consecutive trade, if they are, then this fall to the reputation category but if they are not paying bounty hunters, even if they do the 10 days consecutive trade then they are indeed scam, but it's hard to trade 10 consecutive days, if the exchange does not have coins your keeping, to trade.
Bounty hunters got paid after fulfilling the 10days trading event.. and those who didn't are asked to fill complain form so they could be looked at... I made the commercial event 10 days and I'm still not paid, they just finalized the spreadsheet and even if I did the 10 day of trade I find it's not unfair
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March 28, 2019, 09:34:18 PM |
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Are the bounty hunters getting paid after they qualified and done a 10-days consecutive trade, if they are, then this fall to the reputation category but if they are not paying bounty hunters, even if they do the 10 days consecutive trade then they are indeed scam, but it's hard to trade 10 consecutive days, if the exchange does not have coins your keeping, to trade.
Bounty hunters got paid after fulfilling the 10days trading event.. and those who didn't are asked to fill complain form so they could be looked at... I made the commercial event 10 days and I'm still not paid, they just finalized the spreadsheet and even if I did the 10 day of trade I find it's not unfair Atleast you know you'll get your tokens once the spreedsheet is finalized... good for you.. I already got mine though..
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March 28, 2019, 10:43:34 PM |
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But your accusation needs proof regarding the change by BM on the middle of the show...
* The bounty started on January 16, 2019 * Update of making 10 trades to receive the bounty was announced on February 15, 2019 (as seen on the screenshot provided by @cybersofts) * btcltcdigger, the bounty manager posted the update on the bounty thread's main post - http://archive.is/Cv0Io* Bounty ended on early March 2019 Seeing the start and end date of the bounty campaign, we can clearly say that the extra requirement was announced on the middle. I agree that it's unprofessional. Also, trading is not as easy as 1 2 3, you'll consider several things before placing an order. So, 10 days is a bit too much imo (well, shouldn't have been a requirement in the first place).
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March 28, 2019, 11:17:16 PM |
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* The bounty started on January 16, 2019
It is correct! * Update of making 10 trades to receive the bounty was announced on February 15, 2019 (as seen on the screenshot provided by @cybersofts) I have seen those screenshots and it doesn't prove that they have updated the 10 days trading term on 15th Feb in the middle of the show. It is also possible that they have updated other things on 15th Feb. I have checked OP and the 10 days trading term is there and also on TG. So, in my opinion, it is not a piece of concrete evidence to tag the bounty manager unless other participants confirm the same as cybersofts. If other participants confirm the same then it is a concrete evidence. Moreover, btcltcdigger haven't responded to the accusation yet, we need to listen what he has to say. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I agree that it's unprofessional. Also, trading is not as easy as 1 2 3, you'll consider several things before placing an order. So, 10 days is a bit too much imo (well, shouldn't have been a requirement in the first place).
I agree with you!
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March 29, 2019, 02:01:14 AM |
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Project wise, they look OK, but treatment to bounty hunter is annoying as hell. Well, as long as people are fine being told to do this and that just to get some free tokens, then treatment like this will continue forever. And bounty hunter doesn't have any protection at all. Sad but true.
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March 29, 2019, 12:05:50 PM Last edit: March 30, 2019, 11:41:37 AM by Bharathi13 |
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Vanta is a scam here is why 1) First of all Vanta team minted less tokens and cut shares of bounty hunters here how Vanta total supply - 56,200,000,000VNT Total token allocated for sale 35% of total supply= 19670000000VNT Total 50% tokens has been sold = 19670000000*50%= 9835000000VNT They should have distributed 1.5% tokens allocated based on this figure 9835000000 = 147525000 VNT They scammed here too and distributing tokens based on the current circulation supply which is 8808532946 & 1.5% of 8808532946= 132127994.19 VNT The diffrence is 9835000000-8808532946 = 1026467054VNT means 1026467054*1.5% = 15397005.81VNT ( This much of tokens they scammed & they did no stop here there are more scam i will reveal in next point) 2) Almost 50% to 70% campaign participants are not paid their rewards despite their 6 works hard work because they failed to trade on Allbit. Since VANTA team is not going to pay to those hunters who did not trade, the balance amount is to be distributed among the successful hunters and this is usual practice in all the campaign to distribute allocated rewards to successful participants. Here is there another scam one of hunters fetch data from the spreadsheet ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHewwN37.jpg&t=665&c=LPjBJs8Hz6D5CQ) Reference :- https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/1/d/e/2PACX-1vSMiuPsb9PnqebKiJ285oCCbYdJfW-uYjcGeg_SXNOpq1zWafmuAKVvQ-owwqGhdZB7Yoj6n0nTRylh/pubhtml?gid=1707468300&single=trueVanta team is keeping this undistributed tokens instead of distributing to those who worked hard to promote their project for 6 weeks which unethical & big scam. They should distribute this tokens to all participants. Since I heard many times in their community they are not going to pay to those who missed 10 days trading on Allbit, Vanta team should distribute this balance tokens to bounty hunters who successfully traded on Allbit instead of keeping that allocated rewards in their pocket.
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March 29, 2019, 01:07:02 PM |
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* Update of making 10 trades to receive the bounty was announced on February 15, 2019 (as seen on the screenshot provided by @cybersofts) I have seen those screenshots and it doesn't prove that they have updated the 10 days trading term on 15th Feb in the middle of the show. It is also possible that they have updated other things on 15th Feb. I have checked OP and the 10 days trading term is there and also on TG. So, in my opinion, it is not a piece of concrete evidence to tag the bounty manager unless other participants confirm the same as cybersofts. If other participants confirm the same then it is a concrete evidence. Moreover, btcltcdigger haven't responded to the accusation yet, we need to listen what he has to say. Please correct me if I'm wrong. You mean maybe they post it on the start date of bounty and edited something else on Feb 15? No, the update happened in the middle of the bounty campaign. What is my basis? See below: As I mentioned above, Vanta Bounty started on January 16, 2019 and to add, it was supposed to end on Feb 17, 2019![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTjwuniC.png&t=665&c=7eLXzuRqJz6M0g) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUBDpmHf.png&t=665&c=yc5K1yUJQuq1fA) Before it ends, the update was announced that the bounty be will be extended up to March 4, 2019 together with new requirement which was the 10 trades. Check the link or the image posted by cybersofts here. Idk when exactly btcltcdigger update the thread, but what's for sure is that it's not on the start date of bounty because VNT was listed on ALLBIT on January 30,2019 as per announcement. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNqFk8Qr.png&t=665&c=xaRKpImBvPcf8A) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwR1ilsn.png&t=665&c=fuQWpKkjwRTPaw) You mentioned about tag, to make it clear, I'm not posting this to make btcltcdigger tagged. I was just sharing the information. Also, btcltcdigger can reply here anytime to make things clear about what happened.
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March 29, 2019, 01:10:40 PM |
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Bouncing updates occur after trading on allbit catch KYC. Many hunters can't get KYC on time to trade on it. Really this is a scam
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March 29, 2019, 01:11:12 PM |
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Bad project ever
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March 29, 2019, 01:15:27 PM |
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Bad project ever
About 80% of hunters do not receive project advertising money for them. Ask the bonus manager to tell us that we have sent the team and unrelated spreadsheet. Just asking the VANTA team, getting the answer is to ask the manager of the money, this is really a very sophisticated scam. A large large-scale project does this with hunters.
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March 29, 2019, 01:52:56 PM |
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KECEWA with the Vanta team, did not share the rights of hunters, arguing that they did not trade 10 times in a row, not all hunters could trade, and were always in front of the PC to carry out trade transactions, especially when my son was in the hospital is it possible for me to trade
but Whatever now , I think the VANTA team is a CHEAT, who takes the rights of hunters by reason of not trading
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