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Title: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: coupable on April 20, 2019, 11:13:01 PM I posted this in another thread but didn't get an answer. I deleted it before starting this topic.
Am really wondering why should i be tagged for joining this campaign? If it's a confirmed scam exchange then why not to ban them from advertising here? Why not discussing, at the same level, all those campaigns/managers promoting shitty tokens? (am not playing the devil lawyer here but just asking) In fact, i don't natively speak English (it's my third language) but this doesn't forcely mean that am a spammer or willing to spam the forum, as you can clearly understand the meanings through my sentences. I didn't see that btc signature campaigns are limited for English native speakers, if so, then it should be displayed in campaign rules (at least). My account has been hacked last July before succeeded to manually recover it last January, so this is why i don't have many merit points and you can notice the great gap in my post history. I joined the Yobit campaign Yesterday after receiving their email and verify that many reputable users with green trust joined it too. Am not an active user and am pretty sure that it's very hard for me to make more than 4-5 posts a day, i just thought that i can make a small profit from joining this forum. Yesterday i made three posts and this is my second post for today. Am not willing to join any signature campaign for altcoins (i think all those projects are scams) and it becomes more difficult to join a btc signature because of the merit requirement and the weekly number of posts to be eligible for paiements. Am not willing to advertise a scam project or to break any forum rule even if this can help me earn more. I agree that this campaign lacks a clear set of rules and must be controlled by a reputable manager. I opened a support ticket in Yobit platform asking them about hiring a manager and if there is any risks joining this campaign. I confirm that my existence in this forum isn't for money or to scam people or to breack rules. At the same time, i don't see that am breacking any official/unofficial rules and don't want to lose my account forever. By the way, i used Yobit many times (for small trades) and didn't face any problem with it. I want also to ask about the other running signature campaign of Yobit and if it is consedering as a scam promotion. I still believe in the honesty of Mods and DTs here, and am posting this here because i was estonished seeing all those threads discussing the Yobit campaign. (Indeed, this makes me afraid loosing my reputation or being banned) Sorry for my bad English (maybe) and thanks for reading and help me solve all those confusions in my mind. I don't really know what to do. I would appreciate all the honest, serious opinions. Coupable Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 20, 2019, 11:23:42 PM I wouldn't quit the campaign for fear of getting tagged or for advertising a scam exchange. I'll be the first to admit that Yobit is shady, mostly because I have no idea who runs it or where they're incorporated (if they even are), plus they've had a lot of scam accusations against them. They aren't in the Cryptsy or Mt. Gox league, though. I, too, have used them with no problems and I don't think there's anything wrong with advertising for them.
They did pull some shenanigans with some guy's PoS coin a while back, but I don't know what the outcome was. That's the thing with the scam accusations--you're only hearing one side of the story and there's often no followup if the problem gets resolved. Anyway, I'm interested in hearing others' opinions as well. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: DireWolfM14 on April 20, 2019, 11:44:52 PM I don't think you have to worry about getting red-tagged by any DT members just for wearing the signature. I don't plan on tagging anyone for that, and I think most DT members are planning on holding back. Like The Pharmacist alluded to; the OPs of many of those scam accusations just stop responding to the threads they created. That could mean their issue was resolved, but since most just peter out we don't know for sure. Furthermore, nobody has provided concrete evidence of a scam. So, in my opinion tagging some for promoting a scam would be inappropriate given what we know today.
I might tag someone for plastering shitposts across the forum but if I do, that person will get ample warning and be given every opportunity revise his strategy. And I'm talking extreme cases, I don't have time to police everyone who's wearing the sig. As far as whether you should quit the campaign, that's really up to you. I personally would not want to promote an outfit with Yobit's reputation. Even if all the scam accusations are really just customer support and software issues, there are way too many for my liking. And you know what they say about smoke an fire. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: AB de Royse777 on April 21, 2019, 12:03:22 AM ~snip~ Why are you hesitating? If you are not comfortable with promoting it then leave it. I don't really know what to do. I would appreciate all the honest, serious opinions. ~snip~ I don't see any point to create a topic and continue discussing about it which are already has discussed in some other topics including in the Meta section and Service section. If I am not wrong then there is already another topic in the Reputation section too. You want my suggestion? 1. Remove the signature, 2. Decide what do you want to do first If you are not comfortable to wear it. Move on. If you see no problem then wear it and do the things you do in the forum Cheers :-D Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: akamit on April 21, 2019, 12:12:48 AM No one is going to tag you for joining Yobit sig. campaign I believe.
I know this guy LTU_btc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=547435), who is using Yobit signature for a long time and not a single DT member tagged him yet. No one will call you a spammer or identify as a spammer as long as you post constructive, meaningful, on-topic posts. No matter how many posts (5/10/20) you make per day, but the posts must have quality. But if you think, promoting Yobit is out of your ethics then you should skip, otherwise go ahead. They did pull some shenanigans with some guy's PoS coin a while back, but I don't know what the outcome was. That's the thing with the scam accusations--you're only hearing one side of the story and there's often no followup if the problem gets resolved. According to my supervision over 95% of the scam accusations haven't got resolved. Actually, I would have said 100% but haven't said because some may be got resolved and I didn't notice. The truth is I haven't seen a single case which got resolved.Even if all the scam accusations are really just customer support and software issues. Yobit's main issue is that the wallets of altcoins are always in maintenance mode. Second, customer support.I just don't blame Yobit alone, but also the coin founders who abandoned the coins and ran away with BTCs. But if I have to weight who is more guilty then I find Yobit because they kept the door open for any kind of shitcoins just to make huge money from listing fees, though the door is still open. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: PrimeNumber7 on April 21, 2019, 01:51:38 AM Yobit.net is not a "confirmed scam exchange" but they have a history that makes me not want to be associated with them. You can look at a tweet (https://archive.is/d2LAr#selection-317.1-321.118) they posted promoting a "pump" of a "random" altcoin they wanted their users to buy. This is the beginning of a "pump and dump" scam (https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/05/061205.asp).
I would not want yobit to be on my resume, and I would decline if they asked me to work for them. I would also decline if they asked me to advertise for them. If you want to join a signature campaign, I think you should find a business that has a better reputation. If you want a recommendation for an alternate signature campaign, I am advertising for HoweyCoins currently (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3920469.msg37611087#msg37611087). The education they provide to investors is very good. I have to warn you that I have not yet received any payment for advertising for HoweyCoins yet. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: coupable on April 21, 2019, 05:52:57 AM Thank you guys, am really feeling better. I can understand that it's discouraged by morals to participate in the promotion of such a projects having as shady activities. May be I will revise my decision and decide if I will keep wearing the signature or not.
May be you were right about not having a negative trust if I continue wearing Yobit's signature, but users accused to be spammers may be receive a Permban, which is the worst result ever (in my opinion) . Wish other users wearing Yobit's signature, read opinions above. If you want a recommendation for an alternate signature campaign, I am advertising for HoweyCoins currently (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3920469.msg37611087#msg37611087). The education they provide to investors is very good. I have to warn you that I have not yet received any payment for advertising for HoweyCoins yet. I will never promote ICOs or shit tokens in my signature. Except for the one you promote, as recommended by Theymos and SEC. Don't treat me like an idiot, I consider your suggestion as a disrespectful intuition over me. So stop playing the smart role please because I was here when Theymos wear HoweyCoins.BTW, how did you get this fantastic design in your signature, as you are still a Junior member.? Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: PrimeNumber7 on April 22, 2019, 05:38:02 AM If you want a recommendation for an alternate signature campaign, I am advertising for HoweyCoins currently (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3920469.msg37611087#msg37611087). The education they provide to investors is very good. I have to warn you that I have not yet received any payment for advertising for HoweyCoins yet. I will never promote ICOs or shit tokens in my signature. Except for the one you promote, as recommended by Theymos and SEC. Don't treat me like an idiot, I consider your suggestion as a disrespectful intuition over me. So stop playing the smart role please because I was here when Theymos wear HoweyCoins.BTW, how did you get this fantastic design in your signature, as you are still a Junior member.? As I mentioned in my prior post, I would not personally advertise or otherwise be associated with yobit. I would personally rather not advertise anything that I am paid for. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: 2girls on April 22, 2019, 06:58:37 AM I posted this in another thread but didn't get an answer. I deleted it before starting this topic. Am really wondering why should i be tagged for joining this campaign? If it's a confirmed scam exchange then why not to ban them from advertising here? Why not discussing, at the same level, all those campaigns/managers promoting shitty tokens? (am not playing the devil lawyer here but just asking) In fact, i don't natively speak English (it's my third language) but this doesn't forcely mean that am a spammer or willing to spam the forum, as you can clearly understand the meanings through my sentences. I didn't see that btc signature campaigns are limited for English native speakers, if so, then it should be displayed in campaign rules (at least). My account has been hacked last July before succeeded to manually recover it last January, so this is why i don't have many merit points and you can notice the great gap in my post history. I joined the Yobit campaign Yesterday after receiving their email and verify that many reputable users with green trust joined it too. Am not an active user and am pretty sure that it's very hard for me to make more than 4-5 posts a day, i just thought that i can make a small profit from joining this forum. Yesterday i made three posts and this is my second post for today. Am not willing to join any signature campaign for altcoins (i think all those projects are scams) and it becomes more difficult to join a btc signature because of the merit requirement and the weekly number of posts to be eligible for paiements. Am not willing to advertise a scam project or to break any forum rule even if this can help me earn more. I agree that this campaign lacks a clear set of rules and must be controlled by a reputable manager. I opened a support ticket in Yobit platform asking them about hiring a manager and if there is any risks joining this campaign. I confirm that my existence in this forum isn't for money or to scam people or to breack rules. At the same time, i don't see that am breacking any official/unofficial rules and don't want to lose my account forever. By the way, i used Yobit many times (for small trades) and didn't face any problem with it. I want also to ask about the other running signature campaign of Yobit and if it is consedering as a scam promotion. I still believe in the honesty of Mods and DTs here, and am posting this here because i was estonished seeing all those threads discussing the Yobit campaign. (Indeed, this makes me afraid loosing my reputation or being banned) Sorry for my bad English (maybe) and thanks for reading and help me solve all those confusions in my mind. I don't really know what to do. I would appreciate all the honest, serious opinions. Coupable No, You should not leave. If you have good writing skills then you should join the campaign and need not be fear from the DT Members. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: crairezx20 on April 22, 2019, 09:07:06 AM You must be afraid if you are wearing yobit signature with your alt accounts because if they found that you are abusing yobit signature campaign by joining all of your alt accounts I'm sure you will receive negative trust so better to taking off the yobit sig from your alts so that you don't need to be afraid of getting tag from DT members.
Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: The Cryptovator on April 22, 2019, 10:48:09 AM No doubts that Yobit is shady exchange, and I believe all forum members know that. But really anyone care about that? I don't think so, everyone promoting them. If half of forum member promote Yobit then it's not possible to tag all account. But if you think that this advertise isn't trustworthy then its depend on you will you continue or no? Perhaps I wouldn't like to wear Yobit signature even my signature space were free. If you are worrying just about tag then I don't think DT's will do that since there huge quantity users involved. Personally as a DT member I am not going to do it although I would like to tag Yobit account. Everyone is adult here and most of they know about shady activity of Yobit.
Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: hilariousetc on April 22, 2019, 10:55:26 AM ~snip~ Why are you hesitating? If you are not comfortable with promoting it then leave it. I don't really know what to do. I would appreciate all the honest, serious opinions. ~snip~ I don't see any point to create a topic and continue discussing about it which are already has discussed in some other topics including in the Meta section and Service section. If I am not wrong then there is already another topic in the Reputation section too. You want my suggestion? 1. Remove the signature, 2. Decide what do you want to do first If you are not comfortable to wear it. Move on. If you see no problem then wear it and do the things you do in the forum Cheers :-D I agree with this. If you feel like you're doing something wrong or compromising yourself by promoting something potentially shady then you should trust your instincts or morals. As for whether users on yobit deserve negative feedback or not that is an entirely different discussion. No one is going to tag you for joining Yobit sig. campaign I believe. I know this guy LTU_btc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=547435), who is using Yobit signature for a long time and not a single DT member tagged him yet. Has he actually been on the campaign all this time though? I thought it shut down long ago and there's been quite a few inactive and barely active users that still seem to bare yobit's signature, but I just assumed they just never removed them or never joined another campaign. Has it been ticking over all this time? There were very few people left on that campaign from what I remember. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: hugeblack on April 22, 2019, 11:16:09 AM I began to think seriously that this is a new kind of advertising. Please, everyone, stop talking about Yobit.
This user has done this post -----> {Facts} Disadvantage of promoting signature campaigns that encourages spamming (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134473.0), it is up to you. As long as you wear that signature, it means that you made your decision, so please lock this topic. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: erikalui on April 22, 2019, 12:36:51 PM No, because I don't think it's a proven scam exchange but they are just shady atm. I don't appreciate the fact that their script can't differentiate between negative trust members and others and hence don't trust their bot to count posts properly and not promote spam. They need to hire a human to run their campaign smoothly. I myself withdrew my bitcoins from yobit last week so don't think they are 100% scam.
Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: jakelyson on April 22, 2019, 12:55:33 PM No, because I don't think it's a proven scam exchange but they are just shady atm. I don't appreciate the fact that their script can't differentiate between negative trust members and others and hence don't trust their bot to count posts properly and not promote spam. They need to hire a human to run their campaign smoothly. I myself withdrew my bitcoins from yobit last week so don't think they are 100% scam. Unproven but since they reopened their signature for new applicants, yobit is taking a lot of heat right now. Their reputation is being questioned more than ever. I will be unconfortable as well if I am wearing their signature. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: Text on April 22, 2019, 01:06:13 PM Sorry if I am wearing the Yobit signature again now even if I already got tagged of negative trust before and quitting to resolve it.
I hope, all DT members is same with DireWolfM14. Well, of course each of them has its own rules and criteria on how they will rate a member. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: erikalui on April 22, 2019, 01:30:19 PM Unproven but since they reopened their signature for new applicants, yobit is taking a lot of heat right now. Their reputation is being questioned more than ever. I will be unconfortable as well if I am wearing their signature. That's not related to them being a shady exchange but only because they aren't handling spammers well with a proper manager. Sorry if I am wearing the Yobit signature again now even if I already got tagged of negative trust before and quitting to resolve it. I hope, all DT members is same with DireWolfM14. Well, of course each of them has its own rules and criteria on how they will rate a member. You haven't receive a negative feedback from a DT member so you shouldn't much worry about it. The ones who tagged you probably won't remove it if they don't wish. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: coupable on April 22, 2019, 08:28:41 PM I think it was a nice experience with Yobit campaign, it made me know how do really things work here. Nice move from Theymos, which put end to all the drama that started since the start of the campaign.
Am so glad that no one got permaban for this. Which this to be a lesson for everybody. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: LTU_btc on April 22, 2019, 09:51:43 PM No one is going to tag you for joining Yobit sig. campaign I believe. I know this guy LTU_btc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=547435), who is using Yobit signature for a long time and not a single DT member tagged him yet. Has he actually been on the campaign all this time though? I thought it shut down long ago and there's been quite a few inactive and barely active users that still seem to bare yobit's signature, but I just assumed they just never removed them or never joined another campaign. Has it been ticking over all this time? There were very few people left on that campaign from what I remember. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: Patatas on April 22, 2019, 09:56:47 PM Just leaving this here
Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: akamit on April 23, 2019, 01:37:28 AM No one is going to tag you for joining Yobit sig. campaign I believe. Has he actually been on the campaign all this time though? I thought it shut down long ago and there's been quite a few inactive and barely active users that still seem to bare yobit's signature, but I just assumed they just never removed them or never joined another campaign. Has it been ticking over all this time? There were very few people left on that campaign from what I remember. I know this guy LTU_btc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=547435), who is using Yobit signature for a long time and not a single DT member tagged him yet. If they are under a campaign then they are probably getting paid, maybe for this reason I haven't given a thought on this. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: xLays on April 23, 2019, 03:20:46 AM Thymos disabled YoBit signature design but look I still wear Yobit signature design. :o :o
Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: john2231 on April 23, 2019, 06:40:20 AM Thymos disabled YoBit signature design but look I still wear Yobit signature design. :o :o Ow weird report it now to theymos tell him to remove it or you are lucky to stay wearing yobit. Maybe if someone reported that you are spamming you will be remove if not then you are lucky to stay wearing it according to his post here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133809.msg50727083#msg50727083 Edit: lol try to click your yobit signature. Lets see :D Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: PrimeNumber7 on April 24, 2019, 05:45:08 AM Thymos disabled YoBit signature design but look I still wear Yobit signature design. :o :o Ow weird report it now to theymos tell him to remove it or you are lucky to stay wearing yobit. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days. If you look at the BB Code of his signature, he has a link to a picture that says "fuck you idiot"I am a supporter of free markets and freedom of speech, but I am glad the trash associated with all the YoBit advertising campaign has been stopped. YoBit management did a poor job of rolling out their advertising. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: coupable on September 28, 2019, 07:08:16 AM Yesterday, i received a mail from Yobit exchange inviting me to join their btt signature campaign again. I wasn't really interested because i left that campaign after the sig bans applied by admin for Yobit spammers (i didn't get banned at that time because my posts didn't get reported, as am always trying not to be a troller) but today i am just about to discover some funny news, IMO;
First, the campaign is moderated by the reputed Yahoo and we can now see statistics about the users (with the help of other members) and take more garantees that the csmpaign is smoothly running. What amazed me while reading the four pages thread is that no one talked about Yobit as a scam project creating methods to deceive users (this is what everybody says when the campaign run last April) and you can check my trust where three users accused me to promote a scamy project (yobit) despite that the problem was "encouaging dpam" and enrolling campaign without a manager. Second, is how/why yobit exchange use a crypto forum (bitcointalk) to promote for another crypto forum (cryptotalk) !!! Then what!? Using the promoted forum to promote the yobit exchange !? Isn't a mess :( I don't know if i have to take some cautions before joining the camaign again as my profile account is more valuable for me than moneyso i don't want to receive more bad trusts or being banned or kicked out from it as a big looser. If you have some advices, please don't hesitate to say it. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: unibitcoinist on September 28, 2019, 07:49:32 AM Interesting, they never say it's a scam shitty scam. No one, neither the heck marlboroza.
Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on September 28, 2019, 07:59:09 AM If you have some advices, please don't hesitate to say it. I did a post sometime ago titled; {Facts} Disadvantage of promoting signature campaigns that encourages spamming. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134473.msg50710060#msg50710060) I recommend you go through the thread then if you're comfortable participating in the campaign genuinely without causing any nuisance then go ahead. Remember the campaign doesn't mandate you meet maximum post requirement daily therefore if you participating in the campaign won't turn you into a spammer then go ahead. The issue is that most users use this opportunity to spam the forum while getting paid but if you can post that much or even more amount of posts daily and they still turn out to be quality or atleast reasonable posts then i don't see an issue with that. We have members capable of making 20+ posts daily and still maintaining their quality standards. If you're one of them, then wearing any signature is a privilege, do what suits you. The issue with posting much is it deprived you of point No.6 on the thread although If you can balance both posting and learning simultaneously then you're good. The campaign has a high quality manager which will be bringing in some discipline to the campaign. The issue with most high maximum post paying campaign is that, they're poorly managed which result to participates spamming and still getting paid but @Yahoo's involvement in this campaign changes everything. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: FIFA worldcup on September 28, 2019, 09:29:31 AM ~snip~ Why are you hesitating? If you are not comfortable with promoting it then leave it. I don't really know what to do. I would appreciate all the honest, serious opinions. ~snip~ I don't see any point to create a topic and continue discussing about it which are already has discussed in some other topics including in the Meta section and Service section. If I am not wrong then there is already another topic in the Reputation section too. You want my suggestion? 1. Remove the signature, 2. Decide what do you want to do first If you are not comfortable to wear it. Move on. If you see no problem then wear it and do the things you do in the forum Cheers :-D I will just add my two cents here which may further help OP and others to decide how to go about it. 1- Yobit exchange contains a lot of pump dump shit coins but you will never find yobit holding your payments or withdrawals issues. So it is not a scam in a way. 2- Even if Yobit is semi-scam exchange, you people are not promoting Yobit. Are you ? You are promoting a cryptotalk forum and there is no harm in it. (It has not been proven yet that the forum belongs to Yobit) 3- As long as you do not spam or violates the rules, no one will tag you. But keep in mind that this campaign is monitored by a very talented manager, so you can't live long if your intent is to spam. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: PrimeNumber7 on September 28, 2019, 04:17:36 PM I asked the below question in their signature campaign thread
These pay rates are very appealing. Has Yobit resolved their flag about possibly running a pump and dump scheme? Asking because I believe I will be a senior member soon, and may consider participating. I haven’t received an answer yet. They are paying very well, but are very shady. I would advise against advertising for anything associated with YoBit. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: khaled0111 on September 28, 2019, 05:12:08 PM I asked the below question in their signature campaign thread @OP, if you are convinced that they are legit and deserve to be promoted and you are not going to spam the forum or post extra posts just to get few bucks then you can join their signature campaign. It is easy as that.These pay rates are very appealing. Has Yobit resolved their flag about possibly running a pump and dump scheme? Asking because I believe I will be a senior member soon, and may consider participating. I haven’t received an answer yet. They are paying very well, but are very shady. I would advise against advertising for anything associated with YoBit. Regarding the negative feedbacks you received, I think they had to talk with you and explain why you should leave the campaign before tagging your account. I asked the below question in their signature campaign thread Do you really expect to receive an answer for your question?! ;DThese pay rates are very appealing. Has Yobit resolved their flag about possibly running a pump and dump scheme? Asking because I believe I will be a senior member soon, and may consider participating. I haven’t received an answer yet. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: PrimeNumber7 on September 28, 2019, 07:17:50 PM I asked the below question in their signature campaign thread Do you really expect to receive an answer for your question?! ;DThese pay rates are very appealing. Has Yobit resolved their flag about possibly running a pump and dump scheme? Asking because I believe I will be a senior member soon, and may consider participating. I haven’t received an answer yet. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: o_e_l_e_o on September 28, 2019, 09:23:15 PM The person running the signature campaign seems to have a decent amount of positive rep, and I would assume he would care about the answer to this question before associating himself with a company. I would also think YoBit themsleves would want this addressed to protect their own brand and reputation. If you are referring to yahoo, he has made it quite clear that he is not running the campaign, choosing participants, organising payments, and so forth. He simply has the power to ban spammers from the campaign:I am not accepting participants for this campaign. Everything is done on the yobit website, just follow the instructions above. I will however be able to ban anyone I feel is spamming, anyone with justified negative trust, or anyone breaking any of the forums rules as far as campaigns go. Basically I am a quality checker. Yobit is still maintaining payments and all that via the website. If anyone has any questions feel free to pm me or post them in here. In terms of YoBit protecting their reputation, I think it's been pretty clear from the get-go that they neither have a reputation nor care about building one. They were quite happy to spam the forum at length with their first campaign, despite all the negativity it caused before they were banned, and they were quite happy to return with essentially the exact same campaign a second time. Their modus operandi is to spam their banner in as many places as possible to attract naive newbies, since no one who has been around for any length of time is going to touch them. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: coupable on September 29, 2019, 12:05:46 PM As i assumed before, i used Yobit for small trades but never involved in shitty tokens investment, as i would also agree that any scam project can get his token listed for trade in Yobit but don't know if any trouble may occur during withdraws/deposits processes i didn't face any, since 2017) .
Last April when i joined the Yobit campaign, i opened a support ticket to ask if they are willing to prepare a set of rules for the campaign or hiring someone to do it but i didn't receive a response. And as o.e.l.e.o said, they seems not interested to build a perfect reputation. I have just joined the campaign again and this is my first post wearing the cryptotalk signature; i will watch if it will be counted before continue posting. Thank you all for responding. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 29, 2019, 12:14:51 PM @OP, if you are convinced that they are legit and deserve to be promoted and you are not going to spam the forum or post extra posts just to get few bucks then you can join their signature campaign. It is easy as that. I tend to agree with what you wrote. There's nothing wrong with being in a sig campaign if you're a good poster--unfortunately the Yobit campaign has historically recruited the dregs of the forum (with some exceptions, of course). I would also argue that it's not only important that the participant be comfortable promoting Yobit, but also that the community doesn't think they're a scam exchange. The risk is that the campaigner might get tagged for being in the campaign. There was a lot of discussion about that the last time around. Personally, I don't think they're truly scammers. They just have abysmal customer service and awful business practices to boot. But they do provide a useful service to a lot of people, and I know there are many satisfied customers--me among them, because I've used them a lot in the past for small trades. I have just joined the campaign again and this is my first post wearing the cryptotalk signature; i will watch if it will be counted before continue posting. Good luck, and I would advise you to make above-average quality posts. Last time a bunch of members got temp banned if they had reports made against them which were marked as good. You don't want to chance that happening again.Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: yazher on September 29, 2019, 12:51:26 PM There was one problem before and that's the lack to hire a repetative manager that leads the last campaign in chaos. everyone including negative members can wreck havock on the forum.
Thankfully they hire the right manager to handle the job. that's why, I join their campaign too because when Yahoo is the Captain all of the shit posters will not get on board. It is nice to join their campaign without a fear on getting tag by the Mod. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: elda34b on September 29, 2019, 01:28:01 PM It is nice to join their campaign without a fear on getting tag by the Mod. Moderators never tag a user just because they join a signature campaign though. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: johhnyUA on September 29, 2019, 02:34:25 PM I don't see any point to create a topic and continue discussing about it which are already has discussed in some other topics including in the Meta section and Service section. But i see. To write post for signature campaign without beign marked as a spammer ;D Boards like "reputation", "Meta", "Bitcoin discussion" and other are pretty convenient to this Look, there only few users without signature that post in that thread. OP ,for example, has written already 5 post. A little more posts, or another such topic and ta-da - 20 messages ;D Also, such topics creates ecosystem where all participants have their profit. OP get his post, you get yours, and i get one mine. Real non zero sum game. :D Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: coupable on September 29, 2019, 04:32:05 PM OP ,for example, has written already 5 post. A little more posts, or another such topic and ta-da - 20 messages ;D Also, such topics creates ecosystem where all participants have their profit. OP get his post, you get yours, and i get one mine. Real non zero sum game. :D By checking your trust page, i can understand your approach. Greed ! And i don't think your technique would succeed under Yahoo's management. Even you create high quality posts, it will be easy to catch for a professional quality checker. What you have just described is what others fights against, and they call it "Spam behaviors". I created this topic last April to discuss about leaving the Yobit campaign (Please re-read OP) after i joined it for one or two days. I wasn't intended to make more posts by creating this topic and as i mentioned before am not an English native speaker and not that active in the forum as you can note by checking my post history since i recovered my accout, so i can just create 4 to 5 posts daily at max. I wish i could thank you for your honest reply, but Indeed i didn't really like how you see things, Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: johhnyUA on September 29, 2019, 05:45:48 PM By checking your trust page, i can understand your approach Specify pls. One feedback from famous russian troll who calls that Craig Wrigth is real Satoshi (KTChampion), also there few feedback from russian curse - user korner who famous because he one time created around 200 flags in one night and spam Archive thread (and now, he with his alts which left those feedbacks are banned) Obvious, that those feedbacks is inaccurate at all. What also do you see in my trust page, ah? Greed ! And i don't think your technique would succeed under Yahoo's management. Even you create high quality posts, it will be easy to catch for a professional quality checker. Dude, I have earned 500 merits mostly (except Vadi's merits) for my technical and helpful posts (Coding, Ideas, Bitcoin Discussion, Beginners and Help, Wall observer in russian local). While you (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=coupable) have only 19 merits. What you have just described is what others fights against Others doing the same, with their Chipmixer, Wolfbet and other signatures. Those, who have pride and honesty understand it, just don't talk about it. Of course, some people really think that their posts in meta or reputation is valuable more than others. I created this topic last April to discuss about leaving the Yobit campaign (Please re-read OP) after i joined it for one or two days. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK https://i.imgur.com/ziGGw95t.jpg Really, my bad. I don't look into date of creation But, anyway, it was not me who wrote here first I wish i could thank you for your honest reply, but Indeed i didn't really like how you see things, so i will lock this thread again so you can't get the chance to make another post. It's normal. I've showed my view you're free to accept it or do not. You also forgot to lock thread https://i.imgur.com/QXvDhAgt.jpg Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: PrimeNumber7 on September 29, 2019, 10:36:17 PM The person running the signature campaign seems to have a decent amount of positive rep, and I would assume he would care about the answer to this question before associating himself with a company. I would also think YoBit themsleves would want this addressed to protect their own brand and reputation. If you are referring to yahoo, he has made it quite clear that he is not running the campaign, choosing participants, organising payments, and so forth. He simply has the power to ban spammers from the campaign:Nevertheless, he is associating his reputation with YoBit, which is not beneficial to him. YoBit has a history of conducting business unethically, and anyone helping YoBit run its business, including helping with a signature campaign is furthering these unethical business practices, even if not directly participating in the unethical behavior personally. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: Ziskinberg on September 30, 2019, 02:55:16 AM I think you already get a number positive replies here that you should not leave yobit.
This is a good campaign since it might last longer like the first campaign they have in the forum, yahoo who manage the campaign is a reputable one and he is a DT, just think this way, do you think he will accept the job to manage the campaign if his reputation will be at stake here? Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: boltz on September 30, 2019, 03:51:29 PM Since your thread was for the previous campaign of YoBit I would say that you shouldn't fear to get tagged by a DT member as long as you take this "job" seriously and you won't spam and abuse the campaign.
Now a new campaign has started and would be nice to keep things clean, make good posts with actual value that help other users with providing information, help Yahoo to find the spammers and simply PM him. Also would be nice if all the participants would make maximum 2 posts per hour and won't try to go for the maximum of 20 posts/day as this in my opinion is the first sign of spam and abuse the campaign. Personally I take this very serious, I take time to think and research before I post, browse the forum in searching of users who are bursting because they are so many ( 8 of these found today ) who enrolled and so many will come in the next days and watch out for old accounts who did not post for at least 4+ months. You can also follow this thread and make a post there with your list of users who you think they don't deserve to be in the campaign or they need to be warned out --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5188200.msg52596878 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5188200.msg52596878) Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: johhnyUA on October 01, 2019, 08:07:12 PM update: late to do. I think that is how do you feel when writed this line :D But in fact, it's not too late, because above my post (this) there already 2 post while you already have got your answer. maybe it's good time to lock this thread? Just asking. Edit: Ah shit, here we go again I have seen in some users' comments in this thread and others' that YoBit would be a semi-scam exchange. What are the arguments for that? Did they had an unpleasant event in the past for the users or closed people accounts without notice? I'm just asking because I'm curious to see if these are just words in vain and pressumptions or they're actually facts.. ??? Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: ChrisPop on October 01, 2019, 08:15:47 PM I have seen in some users' comments in this thread and others' that YoBit would be a semi-scam exchange. What are the arguments for that? Did they had an unpleasant event in the past for the users or closed people accounts without notice? I'm just asking because I'm curious to see if these are just words in vain and pressumptions or they're actually facts.. ???
Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on October 01, 2019, 08:34:14 PM I have seen in some users' comments in this thread and others' that YoBit would be a semi-scam exchange. What are the arguments for that? Did they had an unpleasant event in the past for the users or closed people accounts without notice? I'm just asking because I'm curious to see if these are just words in vain and pressumptions or they're actually facts.. ??? Anyone that has spend some time on the forum engaging in the activities of the forume most have hear or encountered the accusations against yobit exchange. Easily, you can track most of the accusations from the reference you'll find on the yobit main account on the forum, here's a link to their trust feedback: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=406594 Some more references; Relevant Message: YoBit has been known as one of the shady exchanges out there. From waves of unsolved scam accusations, spreading spam on the forum and pumping coins to deceive investors the list goes on when it comes to the reliability of an exchange. I believe they deserved to flagged if it does any good of making newbies aware to avoid using them. Reference Threads : https://archive.is/d2LAr#selection-317.1-321.118 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1857032.msg18626562#msg18626562 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1500951.msg15112807#msg15112807 Still though, signature is a privilege and isn't moderated therefore, anyone is free to wear any signature they deem fit and doesn't go against advertisement policy on the forum but that doesn't mean you should abuse that privilege by spamming the forum. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: Findingnemo on October 01, 2019, 08:36:33 PM I have seen in some users' comments in this thread and others' that YoBit would be a semi-scam exchange. What are the arguments for that? Did they had an unpleasant event in the past for the users or closed people accounts without notice? I'm just asking because I'm curious to see if these are just words in vain and pressumptions or they're actually facts.. ??? Just type as Yobit scam accusation in google then you can find lot of threads regarding their bad reputation.Anyway some threads for your view Yobit scam ? Trade lost money (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4319301) Yobit SCAM - SYSCOIN withdrawal (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3948962) 1000+ ETH blocked: Yobit.net won't explain or resolve (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3636433.0) YOBIT scam - class action law suit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3109307.0) YoBit seems wants to steal my money. Are they scammed? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3893592) Scam market YObit.net and YObit.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3659923) Yobit.Net Scamming My Deposit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3307444.0) source this post : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4327871.msg38799090#msg38799090 But none claimed that they were completely scam exchange neither they run away from user's money,they still operating and their daily trading volume is huge. :o Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: abel1337 on October 02, 2019, 04:06:27 AM I have seen in some users' comments in this thread and others' that YoBit would be a semi-scam exchange. What are the arguments for that? Did they had an unpleasant event in the past for the users or closed people accounts without notice? I'm just asking because I'm curious to see if these are just words in vain and pressumptions or they're actually facts.. ??? Just type as Yobit scam accusation in google then you can find lot of threads regarding their bad reputation.Anyway some threads for your view Yobit scam ? Trade lost money (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4319301) Yobit SCAM - SYSCOIN withdrawal (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3948962) 1000+ ETH blocked: Yobit.net won't explain or resolve (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3636433.0) YOBIT scam - class action law suit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3109307.0) YoBit seems wants to steal my money. Are they scammed? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3893592) Scam market YObit.net and YObit.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3659923) Yobit.Net Scamming My Deposit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3307444.0) source this post : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4327871.msg38799090#msg38799090 But none claimed that they were completely scam exchange neither they run away from user's money,they still operating and their daily trading volume is huge. :o Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: hilariousetc on October 02, 2019, 08:59:52 AM I have seen in some users' comments in this thread and others' that YoBit would be a semi-scam exchange. What are the arguments for that? Did they had an unpleasant event in the past for the users or closed people accounts without notice? I'm just asking because I'm curious to see if these are just words in vain and pressumptions or they're actually facts.. ??? Just type as Yobit scam accusation in google then you can find lot of threads regarding their bad reputation.Anyway some threads for your view Yobit scam ? Trade lost money (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4319301) Yobit SCAM - SYSCOIN withdrawal (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3948962) 1000+ ETH blocked: Yobit.net won't explain or resolve (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3636433.0) YOBIT scam - class action law suit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3109307.0) YoBit seems wants to steal my money. Are they scammed? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3893592) Scam market YObit.net and YObit.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3659923) Yobit.Net Scamming My Deposit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3307444.0) source this post : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4327871.msg38799090#msg38799090 But none claimed that they were completely scam exchange neither they run away from user's money,they still operating and their daily trading volume is huge. :o Well to be fair you could probably do the same with any exchange and you'll find people complaining about them being a scam or in some other capacity. If someone has their coins stolen or account locked users often blame the operators and are quick to claim a scam even when they did nothing wrong. I think most of yobit's complaints come from them seemingly being a bit shady and unorganised, and being unregulated they don't have to adhere to the same standards many others do. I don't think they exactly run a water-tight ship but I'm not sure I'd call them a scam exchange either, though I haven't looked in depth to any of the complaints people have about them, but you also often don't know the full picture. I'm sure many scammers themselves start crying when an exchange locks their funds or whatever. I remember when people were quick to attack Cloudbet when they locked a users coins because there was something shady going on and two different parties were trying to claim the money. Many users were quick to call Cloudbet a scam but they were actually doing the right thing in trying to get to the bottom of who the funds rightfully belonged to rather than just possibly sending them to a scammer. If you google "Cloudbet scam" the first thing that comes up is this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5124896.0 But if you read the later posts in the thread you'll see it was quickly resolved. Title: Re: Should I leave the Yobit signature campaign? Post by: PrimeNumber7 on October 03, 2019, 04:40:45 AM I have seen in some users' comments in this thread and others' that YoBit would be a semi-scam exchange. What are the arguments for that? Did they had an unpleasant event in the past for the users or closed people accounts without notice? I'm just asking because I'm curious to see if these are just words in vain and pressumptions or they're actually facts.. ??? Just type as Yobit scam accusation in google then you can find lot of threads regarding their bad reputation.Anyway some threads for your view Yobit scam ? Trade lost money (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4319301) Yobit SCAM - SYSCOIN withdrawal (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3948962) 1000+ ETH blocked: Yobit.net won't explain or resolve (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3636433.0) YOBIT scam - class action law suit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3109307.0) YoBit seems wants to steal my money. Are they scammed? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3893592) Scam market YObit.net and YObit.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3659923) Yobit.Net Scamming My Deposit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3307444.0) source this post : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4327871.msg38799090#msg38799090 But none claimed that they were completely scam exchange neither they run away from user's money,they still operating and their daily trading volume is huge. :o Well to be fair you could probably do the same with any exchange and you'll find people complaining about them being a scam or in some other capacity. If someone has their coins stolen or account locked users often blame the operators and are quick to claim a scam even when they did nothing wrong. I think most of yobit's complaints come from them seemingly being a bit shady and unorganised, and being unregulated they don't have to adhere to the same standards many others do. I don't think they exactly run a water-tight ship but I'm not sure I'd call them a scam exchange either, though I haven't looked in depth to any of the complaints people have about them, but you also often don't know the full picture. I'm sure many scammers themselves start crying when an exchange locks their funds or whatever. I remember when people were quick to attack Cloudbet when they locked a users coins because there was something shady going on and two different parties were trying to claim the money. Many users were quick to call Cloudbet a scam but they were actually doing the right thing in trying to get to the bottom of who the funds rightfully belonged to rather than just possibly sending them to a scammer. If you google "Cloudbet scam" the first thing that comes up is this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5124896.0 But if you read the later posts in the thread you'll see it was quickly resolved. I don't think any benefit of the doubt overcomes this issue (https://archive.is/d2LAr#selection-317.1-321.118). YoBit's business practice of having ~zero customer support also has opened a window of opportunity for scammers to impersonate their customer support, and this fact makes it more dangerous to do business with YoBit. |
