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April 20, 2019, 11:13:01 PM
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I posted this in another thread but didn't get an answer. I deleted it before starting this topic.

Am really wondering why should i be tagged for joining this campaign? If it's a confirmed scam exchange then why not to ban them from advertising here?
Why not discussing, at the same level, all those campaigns/managers promoting shitty tokens? (am not playing the devil lawyer here but just asking)
In fact, i don't natively speak English (it's my third language) but this doesn't forcely mean that am a spammer or willing to spam the forum, as you can clearly understand the meanings through my sentences. I didn't see that btc signature campaigns are limited for English native speakers, if so, then it should be displayed in campaign rules (at least).

My account has been hacked last July before succeeded to manually recover it last January, so this is why i don't have many merit points and you can notice the great gap in my post history.

I joined the Yobit campaign Yesterday after receiving their email and verify that many reputable users with green trust joined it too.
Am not an active user and am pretty sure that it's very hard for me to make more than 4-5 posts a day, i just thought that i can make a small profit from joining this forum.
Yesterday i made three posts and this is my second post for today.
Am not willing to join any signature campaign for altcoins (i think all those projects are scams) and it becomes more difficult to join a btc signature because of the merit requirement and the weekly number of posts to be eligible for paiements.

Am not willing to advertise a scam project or to break any forum rule even if this can help me earn more.
I agree that this campaign lacks a clear set of rules and must be controlled by a reputable manager. I opened a support ticket in Yobit platform asking them about hiring a manager and if there is any risks joining this campaign.

I confirm that my existence in this forum isn't for money or to scam people or to breack rules. At the same time, i don't see that am breacking any official/unofficial rules and don't want to lose my account forever.

By the way, i used Yobit many times (for small trades) and didn't face any problem with it.
I want also to ask about the other running signature campaign of Yobit and if it is consedering as a scam promotion.
I still believe in the honesty of Mods and DTs here, and am posting this here because i was estonished seeing all those threads discussing the Yobit campaign. (Indeed, this makes me afraid loosing my reputation or being banned)

Sorry for my bad English (maybe) and thanks for reading and help me solve all those confusions in my mind.


I don't really know what to do.
I would appreciate all the honest, serious opinions.

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April 20, 2019, 11:23:42 PM
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I wouldn't quit the campaign for fear of getting tagged or for advertising a scam exchange.  I'll be the first to admit that Yobit is shady, mostly because I have no idea who runs it or where they're incorporated (if they even are), plus they've had a lot of scam accusations against them.  They aren't in the Cryptsy or Mt. Gox league, though.  I, too, have used them with no problems and I don't think there's anything wrong with advertising for them.

They did pull some shenanigans with some guy's PoS coin a while back, but I don't know what the outcome was.  That's the thing with the scam accusations--you're only hearing one side of the story and there's often no followup if the problem gets resolved.

Anyway, I'm interested in hearing others' opinions as well.

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April 20, 2019, 11:44:52 PM
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I don't think you have to worry about getting red-tagged by any DT members just for wearing the signature.  I don't plan on tagging anyone for that, and I think most DT members are planning on holding back.  Like The Pharmacist alluded to; the OPs of many of those scam accusations just stop responding to the threads they created.  That could mean their issue was resolved, but since most just peter out we don't know for sure.  Furthermore, nobody has provided concrete evidence of a scam.  So, in my opinion tagging some for promoting a scam would be inappropriate given what we know today.

I might tag someone for plastering shitposts across the forum but if I do, that person will get ample warning and be given every opportunity revise his strategy.  And I'm talking extreme cases, I don't have time to police everyone who's wearing the sig.

As far as whether you should quit the campaign, that's really up to you.  I personally would not want to promote an outfit with Yobit's reputation.  Even if all the scam accusations are really just customer support and software issues, there are way too many for my liking.  And you know what they say about smoke an fire. 

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April 21, 2019, 12:03:22 AM
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~snip~


I don't really know what to do.
I would appreciate all the honest, serious opinions.

~snip~
Why are you hesitating? If you are not comfortable with promoting it then leave it.

I don't see any point to create a topic and continue discussing about it which are already has discussed in some other topics including in the Meta section and Service section. If I am not wrong then there is already another topic in the Reputation section too.

You want my suggestion?
1. Remove the signature,
2. Decide what do you want to do first

If you are not comfortable to wear it. Move on.
If you see no problem then wear it and do the things you do in the forum

Cheers :-D

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April 21, 2019, 12:12:48 AM
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No one is going to tag you for joining Yobit sig. campaign I believe.
I know this guy LTU_btc, who is using Yobit signature for a long time and not a single DT member tagged him yet.

No one will call you a spammer or identify as a spammer as long as you post constructive, meaningful, on-topic posts. No matter how many posts (5/10/20) you make per day, but the posts must have quality.

But if you think, promoting Yobit is out of your ethics then you should skip, otherwise go ahead.



They did pull some shenanigans with some guy's PoS coin a while back, but I don't know what the outcome was.  That's the thing with the scam accusations--you're only hearing one side of the story and there's often no followup if the problem gets resolved.
According to my supervision over 95% of the scam accusations haven't got resolved. Actually, I would have said 100% but haven't said because some may be got resolved and I didn't notice. The truth is I haven't seen a single case which got resolved.


Even if all the scam accusations are really just customer support and software issues.  
Yobit's main issue is that the wallets of altcoins are always in maintenance mode. Second, customer support.
I just don't blame Yobit alone, but also the coin founders who abandoned the coins and ran away with BTCs.
But if I have to weight who is more guilty then I find Yobit because they kept the door open for any kind of shitcoins just to make huge money from listing fees, though the door is still open.
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Yobit.net is not a "confirmed scam exchange" but they have a history that makes me not want to be associated with them. You can look at a tweet they posted promoting a "pump" of a "random" altcoin they wanted their users to buy. This is the beginning of a "pump and dump" scam.

I would not want yobit to be on my resume, and I would decline if they asked me to work for them. I would also decline if they asked me to advertise for them.

If you want to join a signature campaign, I think you should find a business that has a better reputation.

If you want a recommendation for an alternate signature campaign, I am advertising for HoweyCoins currently. The education they provide to investors is very good. I have to warn you that I have not yet received any payment for advertising for HoweyCoins yet. 


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April 21, 2019, 05:52:57 AM
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Thank you guys, am really feeling better. I can understand that it's discouraged by morals to participate in the promotion of such a projects having as shady activities. May be I will revise my decision and decide if I will keep wearing the signature or not.
May be you were right about not having a negative trust if I continue wearing Yobit's signature, but users accused to be spammers may be receive a Permban, which is the worst result ever (in my opinion) .
Wish other users wearing Yobit's signature, read opinions above.

If you want a recommendation for an alternate signature campaign, I am advertising for HoweyCoins currently. The education they provide to investors is very good. I have to warn you that I have not yet received any payment for advertising for HoweyCoins yet. 
I will never promote ICOs or shit tokens in my signature. Except for the one you promote, as recommended by Theymos and SEC.  Don't treat me like an idiot, I consider your suggestion as a disrespectful intuition over me. So stop playing the smart role please because I was here when Theymos wear HoweyCoins.
BTW, how did you get this fantastic design in your signature, as you are still a Junior member.?

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If you want a recommendation for an alternate signature campaign, I am advertising for HoweyCoins currently. The education they provide to investors is very good. I have to warn you that I have not yet received any payment for advertising for HoweyCoins yet. 
I will never promote ICOs or shit tokens in my signature. Except for the one you promote, as recommended by Theymos and SEC.  Don't treat me like an idiot, I consider your suggestion as a disrespectful intuition over me. So stop playing the smart role please because I was here when Theymos wear HoweyCoins.
BTW, how did you get this fantastic design in your signature, as you are still a Junior member.?
I am just trying to give a suggesting to participate here without getting paid for doing so. I did not want to give the false impression that "advertising" for HoweyCoins would result in you actually getting paid. I admit that getting paid to participate here is appealing.

As I mentioned in my prior post, I would not personally advertise or otherwise be associated with yobit. I would personally rather not advertise anything that I am paid for.


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April 22, 2019, 06:58:37 AM
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I posted this in another thread but didn't get an answer. I deleted it before starting this topic.

Am really wondering why should i be tagged for joining this campaign? If it's a confirmed scam exchange then why not to ban them from advertising here?
Why not discussing, at the same level, all those campaigns/managers promoting shitty tokens? (am not playing the devil lawyer here but just asking)
In fact, i don't natively speak English (it's my third language) but this doesn't forcely mean that am a spammer or willing to spam the forum, as you can clearly understand the meanings through my sentences. I didn't see that btc signature campaigns are limited for English native speakers, if so, then it should be displayed in campaign rules (at least).

My account has been hacked last July before succeeded to manually recover it last January, so this is why i don't have many merit points and you can notice the great gap in my post history.

I joined the Yobit campaign Yesterday after receiving their email and verify that many reputable users with green trust joined it too.
Am not an active user and am pretty sure that it's very hard for me to make more than 4-5 posts a day, i just thought that i can make a small profit from joining this forum.
Yesterday i made three posts and this is my second post for today.
Am not willing to join any signature campaign for altcoins (i think all those projects are scams) and it becomes more difficult to join a btc signature because of the merit requirement and the weekly number of posts to be eligible for paiements.

Am not willing to advertise a scam project or to break any forum rule even if this can help me earn more.
I agree that this campaign lacks a clear set of rules and must be controlled by a reputable manager. I opened a support ticket in Yobit platform asking them about hiring a manager and if there is any risks joining this campaign.

I confirm that my existence in this forum isn't for money or to scam people or to breack rules. At the same time, i don't see that am breacking any official/unofficial rules and don't want to lose my account forever.

By the way, i used Yobit many times (for small trades) and didn't face any problem with it.
I want also to ask about the other running signature campaign of Yobit and if it is consedering as a scam promotion.
I still believe in the honesty of Mods and DTs here, and am posting this here because i was estonished seeing all those threads discussing the Yobit campaign. (Indeed, this makes me afraid loosing my reputation or being banned)

Sorry for my bad English (maybe) and thanks for reading and help me solve all those confusions in my mind.


I don't really know what to do.
I would appreciate all the honest, serious opinions.

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April 22, 2019, 09:07:06 AM
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You must be afraid if you are wearing yobit signature with your alt accounts because if they found that you are abusing yobit signature campaign by joining all of your alt accounts I'm sure you will receive negative trust so better to taking off the yobit sig from your alts so that you don't need to be afraid of getting tag from DT members.
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April 22, 2019, 10:48:09 AM
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No doubts that Yobit is shady exchange, and I believe all forum members know that. But really anyone care about that? I don't think so, everyone promoting them. If half of forum member promote Yobit then it's not possible to tag all account. But if you think that this advertise isn't trustworthy then its depend on you will you continue or no? Perhaps I wouldn't like to wear Yobit signature even my signature space were free. If you are worrying just about tag then I don't think DT's will do that since there huge quantity users involved. Personally as a DT member I am not going to do it although I would like to tag Yobit account. Everyone is adult here and most of they know about shady activity of Yobit.

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April 22, 2019, 10:55:26 AM
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~snip~


I don't really know what to do.
I would appreciate all the honest, serious opinions.

~snip~
Why are you hesitating? If you are not comfortable with promoting it then leave it.

I don't see any point to create a topic and continue discussing about it which are already has discussed in some other topics including in the Meta section and Service section. If I am not wrong then there is already another topic in the Reputation section too.

You want my suggestion?
1. Remove the signature,
2. Decide what do you want to do first

If you are not comfortable to wear it. Move on.
If you see no problem then wear it and do the things you do in the forum

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I agree with this. If you feel like you're doing something wrong or compromising yourself by promoting something potentially shady then you should trust your instincts or morals. As for whether users on yobit deserve negative feedback or not that is an entirely different discussion.

No one is going to tag you for joining Yobit sig. campaign I believe.
I know this guy LTU_btc, who is using Yobit signature for a long time and not a single DT member tagged him yet.




Has he actually been on the campaign all this time though? I thought it shut down long ago and there's been quite a few inactive and barely active users that still seem to bare yobit's signature, but I just assumed they just never removed them or never joined another campaign. Has it been ticking over all this time? There were very few people left on that campaign from what I remember.


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April 22, 2019, 11:16:09 AM
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I began to think seriously that this is a new kind of advertising. Please, everyone, stop talking about Yobit.
This user has done this post -----> {Facts} Disadvantage of promoting signature campaigns that encourages spamming, it is up to you.
As long as you wear that signature, it means that you made your decision, so please lock this topic.

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April 22, 2019, 12:36:51 PM
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No, because I don't think it's a proven scam exchange but they are just shady atm. I don't appreciate the fact that their script can't differentiate between negative trust members and others and hence don't trust their bot to count posts properly and not promote spam. They need to hire a human to run their campaign smoothly. I myself withdrew my bitcoins from yobit last week so don't think they are 100% scam.
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No, because I don't think it's a proven scam exchange but they are just shady atm. I don't appreciate the fact that their script can't differentiate between negative trust members and others and hence don't trust their bot to count posts properly and not promote spam. They need to hire a human to run their campaign smoothly. I myself withdrew my bitcoins from yobit last week so don't think they are 100% scam.

Unproven but since they reopened their signature for new applicants,  yobit is taking a lot of heat right now. Their reputation is being questioned more than ever. I will be unconfortable as well if I am wearing their signature.
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Sorry if I am wearing the Yobit signature again now even if I already got tagged of negative trust before and quitting to resolve it.
I hope, all DT members is same with DireWolfM14. Well, of course each of them has its own rules and criteria on how they will rate a member.



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Unproven but since they reopened their signature for new applicants,  yobit is taking a lot of heat right now. Their reputation is being questioned more than ever. I will be unconfortable as well if I am wearing their signature.

That's not related to them being a shady exchange but only because they aren't handling spammers well with a proper manager.

Sorry if I am wearing the Yobit signature again now even if I already got tagged of negative trust before and quitting to resolve it.
I hope, all DT members is same with DireWolfM14. Well, of course each of them has its own rules and criteria on how they will rate a member.

You haven't receive a negative feedback from a DT member so you shouldn't much worry about it. The ones who tagged you probably won't remove it if they don't wish.
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I think it was a nice experience with Yobit campaign, it made me know how do really things work here. Nice move from Theymos, which put end to all the drama that started since the start of the campaign.
Am so glad that no one got permaban for this. Which this to be a lesson for everybody.

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April 22, 2019, 09:51:43 PM
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No one is going to tag you for joining Yobit sig. campaign I believe.
I know this guy LTU_btc, who is using Yobit signature for a long time and not a single DT member tagged him yet.

Has he actually been on the campaign all this time though? I thought it shut down long ago and there's been quite a few inactive and barely active users that still seem to bare yobit's signature, but I just assumed they just never removed them or never joined another campaign. Has it been ticking over all this time? There were very few people left on that campaign from what I remember.


I was in Yobit campaign since 2016 until today. They were still paying, but with huge delays. It took 3-6 months sometimes to get payment. This is one of reasons why most of users left this campaign. From what I saw, there was up to 20 more or less active participants in this campaign before relaunch.




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April 22, 2019, 09:56:47 PM
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Just leaving this here

Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.

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