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Title: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: protosaristos on May 12, 2019, 12:44:17 AM
Hi all --

I just joined bitcointalk to learn from folks about the economics of bitcoin.

Are they any noteworthy discussions on cryptoeconomics?

I will be digging through myself; just thought I'd used the collective brain of the forum to speed up my search!

Thanks! Looking forward to discussing.

-Adam


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: Haunebu on May 12, 2019, 07:09:06 AM
There is no best thread though there are many great threads discussing interesting topics which deserve your attention in my opinion. Examples:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130619.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140793.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1082909.0


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: Jating on May 12, 2019, 07:44:33 AM
I can't say which one is the best thread in this board. But I will recommend you this user, Hydrogen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=68364). He usually posted lots of good topics here and there's a lot of replies and arguments and debates around some of his posts.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: Beerwizzard on May 12, 2019, 08:44:04 AM
Dude, I suggest you to read some books on economics. Because frankly speaking most of the users on this section know nothing about economics and keep saying the absolute bullshit. No one can say how economics work and everybody thinks that angry villains in the governments are just printing the money to steal our savings. And all of them think that tomorrow we gonna use the deflationary currency.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: LeGaulois on May 12, 2019, 11:57:13 AM
There many interesting topics in the Economics board, (I like economy basically and sorry I'm not "an expert", just looking to debate with folks here.) the problem is people taking part in the topics trying to look like someone with MBA in finance while they just got their first saving account last week. We all have different background, culture, and lifestyle, it's interesting to share opinions but @Beerwizzard sums up pretty well


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: hugeblack on May 12, 2019, 12:27:40 PM
It is best for you to start by knowing how this forum works and thus will facilitate the search for you.
There is no specific list. I may see that the topic is useful and you see that it has zero value.
I advise you to explore this site------> https://www.lopp.net/bitcoin-information.html (https://www.lopp.net/bitcoin-information.html), it contains a lot of information for each novice, many articles and not limited to this forum.
If you have a question, take it easy and we will help you.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: awik p on May 12, 2019, 12:35:46 PM
right in this forum I got many lessons, because from the beginning I knew bitcoin, this is where I know the term term about bitcoin and also I can learn trading to earn income every day, I think this forum is perfect for beginners who want to know cryptocurrency


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: Genemind on May 12, 2019, 08:54:17 PM
You could read a lot of good topics in different forums here.
I have also learned through reading and exploring things about crypto through this forum. You could choose a topic depending on what you would want to learn. You could learn about trading and investing here, strategies, gambling tips and a lot more.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: Ailmand on May 12, 2019, 09:14:08 PM
It actually depends on your preference, there are a lot of good topics to choose from and there are also threads that makes no sense. Just feel free to scan thru the forum and choose topics that might suite your needs and taste. Enjoy your tine in the forum.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: exstasie on May 13, 2019, 12:07:34 AM
This is a great thread about Bitcoin's economic design from the earliest days: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583

This one is also a good read: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2500

The posts from Satoshi and Hal Finney are particularly interesting.

Here's a couple more good ones:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3293.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3393.0


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: STT on May 13, 2019, 12:19:57 AM
everybody thinks that angry villains in the governments are just printing the money to steal our savings. And all of them think that tomorrow we gonna use the deflationary currency.

Expansion of the monetary base now exceeds growth GDP or population growth for over a decade and isnt likely to reverse; the new money first appears as new debt in favour of fiscal budgets.   I wouldnt say stealing but use of power to favour your own agenda sure and the entire country is to blame for voting in those in politics who promise to overspend and continue doing so.   So we steal from ourselves perhaps, many think debt is free money so long as we never repay it only borrow more but that is the real nonsense and danger

Deflationary currency would be most recently gold as its rate of production is below global population or GDP growth which means prices can fall in nominal terms as the money is possibly worth more then the price of a stable good in demand but also freely available.    Theres alot of good things about having a stable currency but it does not favour the use of large amounts of debt and budgets based on that debt, we are not likely to have this scenario again without a quantum change to attitude of almost the entire economy, in power, business and people also.

Its very unlikely even without dollar that the replacement for world trade would be a solid or hard currency or anything close to deflationary.   Whats most likely is all the other alternatives which are also FIAT, also partly backed by debt but hopefully more trade then presently true.   SDR is one currency based around the IMF that could be some replacement for dollar reserve but its only a combination of the alternate national standards and still very much FIAT and inflationary.    Not all think crypto will take over, I think it just rises in usage and thats enough to be bullish really


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: traderethereum on May 13, 2019, 12:42:10 AM
It depends on what topics you want to search because every thread here give a different topic, so you need to have the right keyword to search, and I won't say which one was the best thread.
But if you cannot find what you search, then Google will be your best place to get the answer, and I am sure you will get many websites for the references.
We need to search on many websites and don't depend on one website only because that will not give additional knowledge to us and we cannot get what we want.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: nur rochid on May 13, 2019, 04:21:06 AM
It depends on what topics you want to search because every thread here give a different topic, so you need to have the right keyword to search, and I won't say which one was the best thread.
But if you cannot find what you search, then Google will be your best place to get the answer, and I am sure you will get many websites for the references.
We need to search on many websites and don't depend on one website only because that will not give additional knowledge to us and we cannot get what we want.
yes, and that's what I have been doing up to now. in this forum I learned to interact with a topic, thereby increasing knowledge. if you want to find referrals that are more detailed, then Google becomes the solution


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: finzyoj on May 13, 2019, 08:49:11 AM
Hi all --

I just joined bitcointalk to learn from folks about the economics of bitcoin.

Are they any noteworthy discussions on cryptoeconomics?
I might say YES because btctalk is one of my main source of news about the currrent happenings in crypto world. I usually go here in the Economics section if I want to know btc's price status and its "cause and effect" to our society, if I want to get updated from different adoptions implemented and lastly the FUDs spread by famous opposers like Warren Buffet (for me it's fun to watch their statements falling into pieces as btc remains strong ;D).

But if you are really looking for geek discussions then I suggest you to go to Technical Discussion or Meta. I'm sure you will gain more knowledge there. Good luck :).


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: Muzika on May 13, 2019, 11:19:11 AM
Hi all --

I just joined bitcointalk to learn from folks about the economics of bitcoin.

Are they any noteworthy discussions on cryptoeconomics?



I will be digging through myself; just thought I'd used the collective brain of the forum to speed up my search!

Thanks! Looking forward to discussing.

-Adam

If you want to dig some good knowledge about the forum you can look on meta section, if you want to have a knowledge on how trading works you can look on the trading thread, if you want to know about different alts you can relay on the alternative cryptocurrencies because in that you can look in the didderent section tuckling up the different coins discussion.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: gentlemand on May 13, 2019, 11:31:18 AM
This is a good question and it's made me realise there are very, very few threads about it, at least any worth reading.

If we're honest as it stands the only economics that currently apply are - BUBBLE. Very few are using it for anything other than speculation so I suppose they haven't gotten any deeper into thinking how it would work in proper economic terms.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: davis196 on May 13, 2019, 12:40:13 PM
Hi all --

I just joined bitcointalk to learn from folks about the economics of bitcoin.

Are they any noteworthy discussions on cryptoeconomics?

I will be digging through myself; just thought I'd used the collective brain of the forum to speed up my search!

Thanks! Looking forward to discussing.

-Adam

The best threads about bitcoin economics are not in the Economy sub-forum.They are in the Trading Discussion and the Speculation sub forums.There's no such thins as "bitcoin economics".It's all just market economy with technical and fundamental analysis.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: exstasie on May 13, 2019, 03:50:10 PM
The best threads about bitcoin economics are not in the Economy sub-forum.They are in the Trading Discussion and the Speculation sub forums.There's no such thins as "bitcoin economics".It's all just market economy with technical and fundamental analysis.

I don't think the OP was talking about "Bitcoin/fiat speculation." I think he's specifically about cryptoeconomics. It's an important distinction to make. The former is just a study of price and is about technical and fundamental analysis, which can apply to any asset in the world. The latter is a study of the actual economic forces and game theory dictated by a cryptocurrency network's design. I.e. why and how a cryptocurrency network functions, due to various inputs like supply/demand dynamics, fee dynamics, consensus incentives (POW vs. POS vs. xyz), etc.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: Beerwizzard on May 13, 2019, 04:16:27 PM
everybody thinks that angry villains in the governments are just printing the money to steal our savings. And all of them think that tomorrow we gonna use the deflationary currency.

Expansion of the monetary base now exceeds growth GDP or population growth for over a decade and isnt likely to reverse; the new money first appears as new debt in favour of fiscal budgets.   I wouldnt say stealing but use of power to favour your own agenda sure and the entire country is to blame for voting in those in politics who promise to overspend and continue doing so.   So we steal from ourselves perhaps, many think debt is free money so long as we never repay it only borrow more but that is the real nonsense and danger

Deflationary currency would be most recently gold as its rate of production is below global population or GDP growth which means prices can fall in nominal terms as the money is possibly worth more then the price of a stable good in demand but also freely available.    Theres alot of good things about having a stable currency but it does not favour the use of large amounts of debt and budgets based on that debt, we are not likely to have this scenario again without a quantum change to attitude of almost the entire economy, in power, business and people also.

Its very unlikely even without dollar that the replacement for world trade would be a solid or hard currency or anything close to deflationary.   Whats most likely is all the other alternatives which are also FIAT, also partly backed by debt but hopefully more trade then presently true.   SDR is one currency based around the IMF that could be some replacement for dollar reserve but its only a combination of the alternate national standards and still very much FIAT and inflationary.    Not all think crypto will take over, I think it just rises in usage and thats enough to be bullish really
And after so many words you still could not say how the export of the country would work with a deflationary currency. All those stuff about the magical currency that would replace current fiat money looks like a prophecy rather than a worthy economical theory. Such currencies will never overtake fiat money at all levels: governments wouldn't make BTC their main currency and the majority of people would hardly spend most of their money in crypto.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: Naida_BR on May 13, 2019, 06:38:05 PM
Hi all --

I just joined bitcointalk to learn from folks about the economics of bitcoin.

Are they any noteworthy discussions on cryptoeconomics?

I will be digging through myself; just thought I'd used the collective brain of the forum to speed up my search!

Thanks! Looking forward to discussing.

-Adam

i would suggest you to read the threads that are pinned in the Economics board.
You can also find interesting topics in the Bitcoin Discussion board where many members with extensive knowledge of blockchain technology are discussing and exchanging ideas there.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: BlueStackz on May 14, 2019, 10:18:50 AM
Hi all --

I just joined bitcointalk to learn from folks about the economics of bitcoin.

Are they any noteworthy discussions on cryptoeconomics?

I will be digging through myself; just thought I'd used the collective brain of the forum to speed up my search!

Thanks! Looking forward to discussing.

-Adam
Welcome Adam, good to have you here and I am sure you will learn a whole lot in this forum, if you really want to learn and acquire solid knowledge about the crypto events generally, I will advise you visit ivory tower section (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=251.0).

That is where you see well meaningful and constructive post and comments that are well educative enough, unlike some other boards where you just see people shilling their coins and going off topic on the subject matter, but there are strict rules there that people adhere to, making them have a very meaningful conversations.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk's best threads on bitcoin's economics?
Post by: el kaka22 on May 16, 2019, 09:01:20 AM
I can't really appoint any of the topics as the "best thread" on bitcoins economics, unfortunately the real economics of bitcoin is to ruin the current monetary system via any means necessarily, that means being decentralized and doing whatever the market wants it to do with no boundaries and no rules at all.

Sometimes that is a good thing, for example we just moved from 3400 dollars to 8000+ dollars which is a lot of money and a big jump more than 100% profits in just two months however we also all remember the time bitcoin went from that 20 thousand dollars to first 6500ish prices and than as low as 3100 dollars. If you want to learn economics of bitcoin first learn how it all works technically and if you learn the technical parts of bitcoin you will learn most of the economic parts as well.