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Title: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: pcfli on March 13, 2014, 06:29:43 PM The main parameters are listed below
http://i61.tinypic.com/n56lj5.jpg Name:A3233 Normal mode: Core voltage：0.75VChip frequency：600MHz Hashrate：7.089GH/s power consumption ：5.35W efficiency ：0.755J/GH ECO mode Efficiency：0.58J/G TURBO mode Efficiency ：1.00J/G Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: Phreakerx on March 13, 2014, 06:57:02 PM Any specs on the already built miner?
1gH/s at less than 1kW for 1000 USD? 1k USD= ~1.57 BTC The base price of 210 *free* chips is 21 BTC through Avalon webstore. Almost sounds too good to be true! Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: apollojmr on March 13, 2014, 07:09:06 PM Wow I am interested in this!
Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: pcfli on March 13, 2014, 07:45:14 PM Any specs on the already built miner? 1000$ is the pre-pay for lock the order, the total price is 3850$ and the departure date of the delivery is 22th March, and i promise the arrival data will not later than 25th all over the world. but i do not suggest you make the decision right now , i am still on the evaluation of the machine and will update here within three days, you can make the decision at that time 1gH/s at less than 1kW for 1000 USD? 1k USD= ~1.57 BTC The base price of 210 *free* chips is 21 BTC through Avalon webstore. Almost sounds too good to be true! Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: sikke on March 13, 2014, 11:50:38 PM Looking good and price getting better for 1TH everyday
Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: joshua3m on March 14, 2014, 12:08:08 AM Looking good and price getting better for 1TH everyday only difficulty is going up... and 1Th/s for that price will not break even... Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: sikke on March 14, 2014, 12:27:19 AM Looking good and price getting better for 1TH everyday only difficulty is going up... and 1Th/s for that price will not break even... yeah. no factory will sell with huge positive ROI Break even is matter of so many things and power consumption is hard to transfer $$ over time. You need to count over +100days and hope for the best. Best bet is to buy lower watts machines. In theory you could run them longer. Those Scrypt miners sell like hot hot where their break eaven is so distant future none knows whats going on with altcoins lol If you count it to earn 250$ /day you do it lot easyer with bitcoin mining than Scrypt miners. Mining has become factory race. So many people intrested and things sell eaven with overpriced $$$ Whole business model for investing 1000$ to earn 2000$ is wrong lol These are not the best chips out there. A1 Coincraft does 1TH with lesser chips. They might win the race by dropping price faster than Avalon. 210 chips sound... meh alot! I prefer the A1 chips now Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: yelloyello on March 14, 2014, 12:29:21 AM So keep us informed. Is there a website?
Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: sikke on March 14, 2014, 12:42:14 AM So keep us informed. Is there a website? We can assume info to appear in this official page. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon3 http://downloads.canaan-creative.com/hardware/A3233/A3233Q48-140313-V01-EN.pdf They give chips free for system designers. Avalon wants to be only the Chipmaker. This 2U rackmount design made with A3255 chips with 3 blades was said to be compatible with these new A3233 chips. It has chipcount of 210. So i declare this to be the machine. 70chips / blade. Hope i'm wrong, lol. If not this design, 210 chips is still huge unit. Bigger than anything made sofar. https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Avalon2 https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/File:Avalon2-black-case.jpg Free chips here. http://avalon-asics.com/product/a3233-free-sample-chips/ ---> waiting for bitmain release :-\ Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: Warning__3 on March 14, 2014, 01:07:22 AM i'm not really that into all this ASIC business but in my eyes this chip doesn't really look that groundbreaking O_o
Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: sikke on March 14, 2014, 01:09:05 AM i'm not really that into all this ASIC business but in my eyes this chip doesn't really look that groundbreaking O_o It's weakest of all the new chips. Avalon might just give them out very very cheap. Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: Warning__3 on March 14, 2014, 01:10:29 AM i'm not really that into all this ASIC business but in my eyes this chip doesn't really look that groundbreaking O_o It's weakest of all the new chips. Avalon might just give them out very very cheap. Thought so, now let's hope they make a usbminer with dual chips! :D Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: sikke on March 14, 2014, 01:22:59 AM i'm not really that into all this ASIC business but in my eyes this chip doesn't really look that groundbreaking O_o It's weakest of all the new chips. Avalon might just give them out very very cheap. Thought so, now let's hope they make a usbminer with dual chips! :D Was thinking of this. That chip suits for USB miner. Beats Antminer U2 least. Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: AdamKD on March 14, 2014, 02:16:36 AM Wouldn't order anything from them if they were the only company left making bitcoin ASICS.
Please check Avalon team ratings for this forum just to show you how much they value their customers. Bitsyncom: Trust Page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=68196 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=68196) Profile Page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=68196 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=68196) ngzhang: Trust Page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=38132 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=38132) Profile Page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=38132 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=38132) xiangfu: Trust Page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=46727 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=46727) Profile Page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=46727 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=46727) Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: glendall on March 14, 2014, 02:27:48 AM After my batch 3 gen 1 order was over three months late and they showed a lot of evidence of a lot of pre-mining before shipped...ya think I'll stick with Antminer, Bitfury or Asicminer gen 3 thanks.
Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: nexus99 on March 14, 2014, 02:34:52 AM These devices need to be in stock in the united States before I would consider it. And it needs to be less than 3500 for 1 TH and .7W/GH.
Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: Phreakerx on March 14, 2014, 06:36:33 AM Just realized.
210 chips at 7gH/s= ~1.5tH/s Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: pcfli on March 14, 2014, 03:26:20 PM just get update information, no machine will put into market this month, the first batch will be available in 5 April, hope they can do what they said this time
any way i am runing a group buy now 4100$, dragon 1T miner， delivered in 19 Mar, and i promise you will receive the machine no later than 22th here is the link for group buy and the link for the evaluation of dragon 1T miner Group buy：https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=514758.0 evaluation：https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=485497.0 Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: vs3 on March 14, 2014, 08:02:44 PM i'm not really that into all this ASIC business but in my eyes this chip doesn't really look that groundbreaking O_o It's weakest of all the new chips. Avalon might just give them out very very cheap. Thought so, now let's hope they make a usbminer with dual chips! :D Was thinking of this. That chip suits for USB miner. Beats Antminer U2 least. From a developer's prospective - even though a USB miner is not an impossibility I'd say it doesn't make much sense. (stock) USB3 can deliver 4.5W. This chip using 5.35W already exceeds that. And it doesn't even account for power conversion losses. So if you need to deliver 5.35W to the chip and in the conversion process you get 80% efficiency that means 6.7W at the input. Or for a 5V power supply you're looking at 1.3-1.5Amps. So - a 1-chip miner is probably doable (and most of the new powered hubs will let you draw 1.5-2A per port) but going with a dual-chip USB miner will probably be a pointless exercise. Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: bitcoiner49er on March 14, 2014, 08:20:30 PM just get update information, no machine will put into market this month, the first batch will be available in 5 April, hope they can do what they said this time any way i am runing a group buy now 4100$, dragon 1T miner， delivered in 19 Mar, and i promise you will receive the machine no later than 22th here is the link for group buy and the link for the evaluation of dragon 1T miner Group buy：https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=514758.0 evaluation：https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=485497.0 Escrow and 10% refund per day later than March 22? I would consider. Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: sikke on March 14, 2014, 08:30:16 PM i'm not really that into all this ASIC business but in my eyes this chip doesn't really look that groundbreaking O_o It's weakest of all the new chips. Avalon might just give them out very very cheap. Thought so, now let's hope they make a usbminer with dual chips! :D Was thinking of this. That chip suits for USB miner. Beats Antminer U2 least. From a developer's prospective - even though a USB miner is not an impossibility I'd say it doesn't make much sense. (stock) USB3 can deliver 4.5W. This chip using 5.35W already exceeds that. And it doesn't even account for power conversion losses. So if you need to deliver 5.35W to the chip and in the conversion process you get 80% efficiency that means 6.7W at the input. Or for a 5V power supply you're looking at 1.3-1.5Amps. So - a 1-chip miner is probably doable (and most of the new powered hubs will let you draw 1.5-2A per port) but going with a dual-chip USB miner will probably be a pointless exercise. I was thinking of running it with 2.5w - 3.5w. Full speed is too much. 2-chip too expensive. USB miners cannot compete with blade miners, but still this chip beats Antminer U2 and bm1380 chip, you could get 3-4GH/s from this Avalon or more. No need to run it with +5w, run it eco-mode, +4W is too hot for small heatsink. No need for 2 chips. Also bottom part cooling and all, this chip suits for USB miners. Something to compete with Antminers which continue to sell good in ebay. Days of the USB miners might be past or will Asicminer suprise us. Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: pcfli on March 15, 2014, 01:48:43 AM just get update information, no machine will put into market this month, the first batch will be available in 5 April, hope they can do what they said this time any way i am runing a group buy now 4100$, dragon 1T miner， delivered in 19 Mar, and i promise you will receive the machine no later than 22th here is the link for group buy and the link for the evaluation of dragon 1T miner Group buy：https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=514758.0 evaluation：https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=485497.0 Escrow and 10% refund per day later than March 22? I would consider. Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: pcfli on March 15, 2014, 11:32:47 AM S2 is coming, now bitmain provide S2 at the price of 3599$, shipped in 10 Apr. Meanwhile, i am raising a group buy for 1 T dragon miner priced 4100$ and delivered in 19 March. that is to say, if you buy 1 T dragon miner in this batch, you can mine as much as 2 btc(value 1200$ based on the current exchange ratio) (Now dragon 1T miner mine 0.12 btc each day)before you receive your S2, and what is more, i accept escrow.
Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: ngzhang on March 15, 2014, 01:05:15 PM just get update information, no machine will put into market this month, the first batch will be available in 5 April, hope they can do what they said this time never released any time table like this. can you provide some origin sources? Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: Warning__3 on March 15, 2014, 02:28:06 PM Totally something i would buy if they made it into a usbminer :)
Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: pcfli on March 15, 2014, 02:45:44 PM just get update information, no machine will put into market this month, the first batch will be available in 5 April, hope they can do what they said this time never released any time table like this. can you provide some origin sources? Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: sikke on March 15, 2014, 03:05:28 PM Soo Bitmain S2 is at least 4U box with 640 chips :o This just got better. Cant wait to see Avalon demo units. Dragon miner is still king of 1T level but how long.
Title: Re: Avalon has released the information about 3th generation chip Post by: nexus99 on March 15, 2014, 04:06:59 PM s2 is the winner now. Until other people fix their prices.
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