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Title: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: sgbett on May 21, 2019, 12:21:33 PM
https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-creator-craig-s-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-granted-us-copyright-registrations-for-bitcoin-white-paper-and-code/

implications for Bitcoin?


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: bhabygrim on May 21, 2019, 12:32:14 PM
https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-creator-craig-s-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-granted-us-copyright-registrations-for-bitcoin-white-paper-and-code/

implications for Bitcoin?
They could do it,We all have different opinion and I think most of us already know that he is not the real or original Satoshi Nakamoto ,
People could believe or say whatever they want but don't expect that everyone would agree to it.
No matter what happens the real crypto enthusiast wouldn't see him as Satoshi since he couldn't prove it.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: LeGaulois on May 21, 2019, 12:35:33 PM
Really this guy! He claims to have created Bitcoin "to works within existing legal frameworks" I must have the wrong place, so. Even if he assigns the copyright registrations to Bitcoin Association, it doesn't change the fact that he is lying to people.
Those who already know Bitcoin (even without using it) know the truth very well. But what will it be for future generations? It's like school in history, the truth is often different. This guy should be sued for a cult organization, he even infested the U.S. Copyright Office lol . I hope that a day Satoshi will return and prove his identity, just to get fun on this thief.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Ailmand on May 21, 2019, 12:37:29 PM
https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-creator-craig-s-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-granted-us-copyright-registrations-for-bitcoin-white-paper-and-code/

implications for Bitcoin?

Well, Craig is a complete fraud and who cares if US reconized him as satoshi. Craig himself cannot prove that he is satoshi so it's a baseless recognition. People claiming to be satoshi will not end not as long as the real satoshi reveals himself which I doubt will never happen.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: NeuroticFish on May 21, 2019, 12:42:01 PM
who cares if US reconized him as satoshi

We know that his purpose is to milk every penny he can from Bitcoin.
He may now be able to start copyrighting and patenting. I really hope I'm wrong.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: dothebeats on May 21, 2019, 12:43:37 PM
He may have the side of the US gov't when it comes to trademarking bitcoin, but we as the community know that the guy is a fraud and we can easily ignore whatever he launches for the good of many. If it is proven that he indeed is not Satoshi, I know for a fact that the Aussies will chase after him knowing so well that he used the said identity and the non-existent control over a million coins to gain something regarding Aussie taxes. At the end of the day, it's only a government approval; community opinions still rule in this ecosystem.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: xvids on May 21, 2019, 12:44:13 PM
Really this guy! He claims to have created Bitcoin "to works within existing legal frameworks" I must have the wrong place, so. Even if he assigns the copyright registrations to Bitcoin Association, it doesn't change the fact that he is lying to people.
Those who already know Bitcoin (even without using it) know the truth very well. But what will it be for future generations? It's like school in history, the truth is often different. This guy should be sued for a cult organization, he even infested the U.S. Copyright Office lol . I hope that a day Satoshi will return and prove his identity, just to get fun on this thief.
When that day comes this would literally be a huge slap to this mans face and make a huge shame on him,
Of I forget he doesn't really care about it since he is so persistence of his act.
But no matter what they say we would always know that he is not the real creator of Bitcoin and the real creator would always be a mystery for us .


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: cabron on May 21, 2019, 12:53:25 PM

Since US recognized him as the Satoshi the creator of Bitcoin, does he have the right to also file a trademark to blockchain?

This could be seen as if he owns this technology and that all other who copied are going to be illegal. It must be anther story one day but if this happen can they take down all the altcoins using blockchain technology?


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: RivAngE on May 21, 2019, 12:55:55 PM
This man!!
Has anyone told him...
https://pics.me.me/thumb_Facebook-18-years-and-Beirut-is-deteriorating-95fee4.png


Really this guy! He claims to have created Bitcoin "to works within existing legal frameworks" I must have the wrong place, so. Even if he assigns the copyright registrations to Bitcoin Association, it doesn't change the fact that he is lying to people.
Those who already know Bitcoin (even without using it) know the truth very well. But what will it be for future generations? It's like school in history, the truth is often different. This guy should be sued for a cult organization, he even infested the U.S. Copyright Office lol . I hope that a day Satoshi will return and prove his identity, just to get fun on this thief.
When that day comes this would literally be a huge slap to this mans face and make a huge shame on him,
Of I forget he doesn't really care about it since he is so persistence of his act.
But no matter what they say we would always know that he is not the real creator of Bitcoin and the real creator would always be a mystery for us .
Unless he has knowledge of who the real Satoshi is and he's 100% certain that the real one won't ever be revealed. It could be a team that has been disbanded and if revealed Craig would just say "I was the leader of that team, but we fought and they lie about me now".
Another possibility is that the real one is not alive anymore and Craig knows it.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Permabull on May 21, 2019, 01:12:27 PM
Wow! Watch the BSV price action. +100% already. This is getting ridiculous...


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: AB de Royse777 on May 21, 2019, 01:17:54 PM
LOL this US Govt full of stupids. Why would we care about the things a centralized bunches of stupid people say whatever they want to say? We have tools to cryptographically prove it.

Tell this piece of sh*t to sign a message from the genesis address (1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa). Also to sign a PGP message using the key which satoshi had. Plain and simple.

Craig W can make the stupids stupid but we who are here from long run are not stupid like them. We are bitcoin community, we are running bitcoin hence we will decide our way to authenticate satoshi not bunches of stupid getting paid for doing shit leveled as Government.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: RivAngE on May 21, 2019, 01:21:02 PM

Since US recognized him as the Satoshi the creator of Bitcoin, does he have the right to also file a trademark to blockchain?

This could be seen as if he owns this technology and that all other who copied are going to be illegal. It must be anther story one day but if this happen can they take down all the altcoins using blockchain technology?

They'd achieve just as much as PUBG developers achieved when they were bitching about Fortnite (https://www.google.com/search?q=pubg+fortnite+lawsuit&rlz=1C1GCEU_enGR828GR828&oq=pubg+fortnite+&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0l5.8111j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8)... this is, nothing!

I would think that the blockchain is similar to any other technology the world has achieved in the past.
eg: Somebody developed the mp3 format, but we don't have to get an approval before encoding a sound file into mp3.


Wow! Watch the BSV price action. +100% already. This is getting ridiculous...

Where can I short this? I don't suppose any credible exchange is still supporting them, huh? HitBTC where the most volume is, is a sure scam for me.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: BrewMaster on May 21, 2019, 01:28:14 PM
what the actual F** is going on in US?!
the Copyright office is just accepting any bullshit! where i live you have to jump through hoops and literary bend over backwards to submit a copyright claim. something like this would take years of work to prove you actually are the real person you claim to be and that is only if they don't laugh in your face!
not to mention that this is an obvious scam that even the stupidest person can tell!!!


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: tsaroz on May 21, 2019, 01:31:22 PM
Not recognized. But he has filed a copyright claim.

Coindesk writes
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To be clear, registration does not imply ownership nor is this an official patent. The copyright process allows anyone to register anything in an effort to prepare, say, for lawsuits associated to ownership.

Computer code and white papers can be copyrighted insofar as they are considered literary works and, as the copyright office writes: “In general, registration is voluntary. Copyright exists from the moment the work is created. You will have to register, however, if you wish to bring a lawsuit for infringement of a U.S. work.”

He's just gone insane for no one believing in his lies. The attempt to prove himself satoshi not only affected his name or credibility but also his business. And now he thinks there's no going back.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: conanmi on May 21, 2019, 01:33:19 PM
only submitted application >:(

https://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=15&ti=1,15&Search_Arg=bitcoin&Search_Code=FT%2A&CNT=25&PID=nzoD_881lnuCunVeTvIfD742gwJ8&SEQ=20190521081301&SID=1


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: avikz on May 21, 2019, 01:39:13 PM
https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-creator-craig-s-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-granted-us-copyright-registrations-for-bitcoin-white-paper-and-code/

implications for Bitcoin?

Oh hell no!!!!!

I don't think there will be any implication on bitcoin, but if you want to make some quick money, buy BSV now for a short period of time! It really doesn't matter to a lot of people who is Satoshi but it really matters that we follow his path!

A single US court verdict can't change the mind of a decentralized network this huge! I doubt the judges had the IQ to understand what is bitcoin, let alone the verdict!


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Pursuer on May 21, 2019, 01:39:48 PM
and the scammer strikes again.

this is obviously an attempt to pump the shitcoin called BSV as they are trying so hard to pump it after the mass delist from major exchanges caused it to crash down hard and they were desperate for survival. a curious thing is that the date of the registration is 2019-04-11 or more than a month ago and the news of it is circulating the media today while the pumpers are super active on this shitcoin!


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: DooMAD on May 21, 2019, 01:40:42 PM
On the plus side, if the US government did officially recognise Wright as satoshi [//EDIT:  I know they're not, but *if*], maybe one of the three-letter-agencies will take him out.   :D

In all seriousness, though:

Not recognized. But he has filed a copyright claim.

Coindesk writes
Quote
To be clear, registration does not imply ownership nor is this an official patent. The copyright process allows anyone to register anything in an effort to prepare, say, for lawsuits associated to ownership.

Computer code and white papers can be copyrighted insofar as they are considered literary works and, as the copyright office writes: “In general, registration is voluntary. Copyright exists from the moment the work is created. You will have to register, however, if you wish to bring a lawsuit for infringement of a U.S. work.”

This.  I normally avoid coingeek as it doesn't seem like a very reputable source.  IMO, it's closer to a dedicated shilling site than any sort of legitimate media outlet.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: enhu on May 21, 2019, 01:49:55 PM

The guy just doesn't know when to stop. BSV sky rocket just when its was announced lol Let me guess, they also pay coingeek.com to publish this just to pump their own coin. You really can't trust the resources of the news in crypto. If its true though, they should enjoy it while it last, sell now because it may continue to drop soon. For all they know the community rejects CSW.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Pursuer on May 21, 2019, 02:01:09 PM
On the plus side, if the US government did officially recognise Wright as satoshi,...

nobody has recognized him as dick, it is just that OP for some reason decide to choose this misleading title for his topic! what CW has done is just submission of a copyright which is not even accepted. and submission is not such a complicated or exclusive thing to do so anybody can do it.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: kalostrian on May 21, 2019, 02:17:56 PM
Time for Satoshi to post a message here or even move coins from his wallet defacing this impostor


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: joshy23 on May 21, 2019, 02:26:52 PM
Really this guy! He claims to have created Bitcoin "to works within existing legal frameworks" I must have the wrong place, so. Even if he assigns the copyright registrations to Bitcoin Association, it doesn't change the fact that he is lying to people.
Those who already know Bitcoin (even without using it) know the truth very well. But what will it be for future generations? It's like school in history, the truth is often different. This guy should be sued for a cult organization, he even infested the U.S. Copyright Office lol . I hope that a day Satoshi will return and prove his identity, just to get fun on this thief.
When that day comes this would literally be a huge slap to this mans face and make a huge shame on him,
Of I forget he doesn't really care about it since he is so persistence of his act.
But no matter what they say we would always know that he is not the real creator of Bitcoin and the real creator would always be a mystery for us .
I like that, time will tell the real things around this industry, most of us are not going to buy his claims, he just wanted to earned lots of money from people
who believes inside this market, let that happen and let him enjoy, as time goes and it will reveal who's the maker and the real satoshi who desire to be kept in secret as how he wanted this chain being decentralized and not be controlled by anyone.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: r1s2g3 on May 21, 2019, 02:28:23 PM
So this guy just trying to take advantage of the loophole existing in system and further pushing his agenda of making fool the people.

PS: Anyone else thinking of registering because loophole also state that :

Quote
Registering a copyright is just filing a form. The Copyright Office does not investigate the validity of the claim; they just register it. Unfortunately there is no official way to challenge a registration. If there are competing claims, the Office will just register all of them.
https://twitter.com/jerrybrito/status/1130812389048238080?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1130812389048238080&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.coindesk.com%2Fcraig-wright-attempts-to-copyright-the-satoshi-white-paper-and-original-bitcoin-code


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: BrewMaster on May 21, 2019, 02:36:47 PM
PS: Anyone else thinking of registering because loophole also state that :

that requires the person to be a real scammer and willing to face the consequences of such an obvious and huge scam! most people aren't willing, even scammers don't want to do something like that, they prefer keeping their scams hidden and silent.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on May 21, 2019, 02:38:31 PM
Not recognized.
Well done for not just jumping on the headline. This is complete clickbait nonsense.

He has registered a copyright claim. Anyone can register a copyright claim for anything. Registering a claim says nothing about the claim being investigated, verified, supported by evidence, legally binding, etc. Everyone who has posted in this thread could right now register a copyright claim for bitcoin's whitepaper, and they would all be accepted.

If it wasn't hilarious enough that someone claiming to be Satoshi (who has apparently abandoned everything Satoshi stood for) was shouting his identity from every platform he can find and suing people for not believing him, let's all take a moment to appreciate just how hilarious someone claiming to be Satoshi filing a copyright claim is. Let's also appreciate the hilarity of the BSV shills pumping BSV on the back of this fraudulent announcement.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: CryptoBry on May 21, 2019, 02:46:31 PM


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implications for Bitcoin?

Implication of this development for bitcoin? I say: NOTHING! The WhitePaper is a piece of document but it has no power whatsoever to affect the platform which can be based on that WhitePaper because it is not a sort of a land title which can convey ownership and inherent rights into something. In fact, bitcoin is an open source and anybody can copy and modify  it anytime. So let us allow Craig Wright to do whatever he wanted to do with that document which can print and swallow with all of his desire. Fool!


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Harlot on May 21, 2019, 02:55:57 PM
The news soreading that Craig Wright is Satoshi is surely about pumping the prices of Bitcoin SV which as of right now is up by 120% from its current price yesterday. I'm pretty sure that after a few days he will deny his identity as being Satoshi Nakamoto in order ti normalize BSV's prices again. I don't even know how the hell did he convinced the U.S. government to play along with his roleplaying, the big part of the influence was the U.S. government giving recognition to him.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: BitcoinFX on May 21, 2019, 03:51:34 PM
Still no Signed and Verified message to date from CSW, whatsoever.

"Registering a copyright is just filing a form. The Copyright Office does not investigate the validity of the claim; they just register it. Unfortunately there is no official way to challenge a registration. If there are competing claims, the Office will just register all of them."
- https://twitter.com/jerrybrito/status/1130812389048238080

...

Here is how you Sign and Verify a message with Bitcoin (Copyright Office and Courts take note) ...

Verifying my (old) zero balance wallet address for blockchain research etc.,
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4630066.0

Bitcoin is Financial Cryptography. Now learn to use it properly!

One might imagine that Bitcoin's actual creator would be able to do this type of Signing and Verifying - in a blink of an eye - don't you think!

Without doing the above, CSW (nChain etc.,) is effectively holding the crypto markets to 'ransom' by not providing a simple, easy, verifiable and pubic proof. In fact, either way a proof-of-market-manipulation has now been clearly demonstrated.

"Where There's Blame, There's A Claim!"  ;D


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: okae on May 21, 2019, 04:04:46 PM
if US Govt recognised Virus Wright as Satoshi, author of white paper is because clearly/obviously he is not the real one, the question that we must ask to ourselft is, why the govt do this, maybe because they know the real identity of Mr. SN and they know that never will come out or something like that?


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Nalbo on May 21, 2019, 04:09:46 PM
if US Govt recognised Virus Wright as Satoshi, author of white paper is because clearly/obviously he is not the real one, the question that we must ask to ourselft is, why the govt do this, maybe because they know the real identity of Mr. SN and they know that never will come out or something like that?

Seems like they haven't recognized him as yet. Everyone can claim something to be their own and unless some others claim the same, it would be called his/her. But if some other wants to claim the same, they need to file a lawsuit against the initial claimer.
Even though US gave him a patent or whatever, no one is going to fall for his lies at all.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: okae on May 21, 2019, 04:16:14 PM
...Seems like they haven't recognized him as yet...

oh! i see then i was just confused by the title thread, so Virus Wright is just trying to increased his bad reputation again....nothing new then.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: denzkilim on May 21, 2019, 04:22:20 PM
It seems that there is an effect to Bitcoin Satoshi Vision with that news and BSV is now having some tremendous upward movement. ::) Let's see until when Bitcoin SV can manage to hold this dramatic upward trend that looks connected to the news of Craig Wright's copyright of the Bitcoin whitepaper.

Not recognized.
Well done for not just jumping on the headline. This is complete clickbait nonsense.

He has registered a copyright claim. Anyone can register a copyright claim for anything. Registering a claim says nothing about the claim being investigated, verified, supported by evidence, legally binding, etc. Everyone who has posted in this thread could right now register a copyright claim for bitcoin's whitepaper, and they would all be accepted.

If it wasn't hilarious enough that someone claiming to be Satoshi (who has apparently abandoned everything Satoshi stood for) was shouting his identity from every platform he can find and suing people for not believing him, let's all take a moment to appreciate just how hilarious someone claiming to be Satoshi filing a copyright claim is. Let's also appreciate the hilarity of the BSV shills pumping BSV on the back of this fraudulent announcement.
That's correct anyone can do a copyright claim without any problem. :D


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: serjent05 on May 21, 2019, 04:32:15 PM
...Seems like they haven't recognized him as yet...

oh! i see then i was just confused by the title thread, so Virus Wright is just trying to increased his bad reputation again....nothing new then.

The news just used a tricky word, make it look like that US granted CW but rather CW granted or given US a copyright registration request.  This will cause confusion just what happen in this thread discussion.  I myself were caught by it until a reply stated that he just registered a copyright claim to the Bitcoin whitepaper.  So no approval yet in short, and I hope he will not be recognized.  It is a blatant lie that he is Satoshi Nakamoto because he cannot do a simple signed message on the address known used by the original author of the Bitcoin whitepaper.


I normally avoid coingeek as it doesn't seem like a very reputable source.  IMO, it's closer to a dedicated shilling site than any sort of legitimate media outlet.

It seems I will avoid coingeek from now on.  The title is total twist of word making one to think otherwise on the first glance.  They new that using granted will automatically convey a message of approved..  damn trickery!


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: tomahawk9 on May 21, 2019, 04:36:44 PM
Wow! Watch the BSV price action. +100% already. This is getting ridiculous...
Yeah, just saw that, looks like a lame attempt from the BSV camp to attract investors, newcomers and whanot by pumping its price, or there are actually A LOT of morons that bought the news and are now pouring tons of capital into this shitcoin...Either way, this is far from being organic growth, I'm expecting a huge dump very soon...not like I care anyways  ::)


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: AriBitcoin on May 21, 2019, 04:40:40 PM
Next Step: Sign a message using one of your (?) wallet addresses :)


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: kosmost on May 21, 2019, 04:45:48 PM
Curious. Does anyone think it is impossible that Wright is Satoshi?


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: 0zero0 on May 21, 2019, 04:49:04 PM
Not only that he has also claimed that the he has written most of the bitcoin code. I wonder how the U.S. is giving him the copyright registrations.
Bitcoin is decentralized, how come a centralized government has the rights to declare copyrights of a decentralized currency.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: AriBitcoin on May 21, 2019, 04:49:55 PM
Curious. Does anyone think it is impossible that Wright is Satoshi?

Yes, unless he signs a message using the private keys of Satoshi Nakamato.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: kosmost on May 21, 2019, 04:52:06 PM
Curious. Does anyone think it is impossible that Wright is Satoshi?

Yes, unless he signs a message using the private keys of Satoshi Nakamato.

Meaning that if he doesn't sign, then it is impossible that he is Satoshi?


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: amrulshare on May 21, 2019, 04:53:21 PM
why is this guy, always ambitious to claim himself as Satoshi Nakamoto. Basically, Bitcoin is a symbol of the creation of an encrypted and anonymous digital currency, so why did it not do it when he created bitcoin that year, this is an act that should not be praised as a professional in any industry.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: kosmost on May 21, 2019, 04:55:00 PM
Not only that he has also claimed that the he has written most of the bitcoin code. I wonder how the U.S. is giving him the copyright registrations.
Bitcoin is decentralized, how come a centralized government has the rights to declare copyrights of a decentralized currency.

It may have been filed on advice of his counsel so that a stronger defense can be presented, perhaps not because he actually wants rights.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: franky1 on May 21, 2019, 04:55:05 PM
having looked a little deeper than just the clickbait layer

https://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=15&ti=1,15&Search_Arg=bitcoin&Search_Code=FT%2A&CNT=25&PID=nzoD_881lnuCunVeTvIfD742gwJ8&SEQ=20190521081301&SID=1

seems he registered on the 11th of April 2019 and the copyright office responded by changing the records author on the 20th May 2019

because no one contested the authorship within the month. the C.O didnt do any investigation/verification and just changed it uncontested.



Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Searing on May 21, 2019, 04:59:55 PM
https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-creator-craig-s-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-granted-us-copyright-registrations-for-bitcoin-white-paper-and-code/

implications for Bitcoin?


I assume he is going to use this USA copyright to get copyrights in as many countries as possible along with the massive number of patents he is also claiming.

Thus he can go to various countries, win copyright, win some in court and thus be 'official Bitcoin' in those countries and try to lock out all other bitcoin from

local exchanges or some other skullduggery.

My 'fear' is still that he is the last man alive from what may have been the original 'satoshi group' of Hal Finney and Dave Kleiman, both of which have passed.

Craig Wright claims there as a "Tulip Trust" made with the early development bitcoins (billions of $$$) that was put in a trust that is accessible on Jan 1st, 2020.

IF such was the case, and IF he was part of the group as spokesman, then with that..he can play the same games to undervalue Bitcoin Core that he did when

he forked off of Bitcoin Cash to Bitcoin SV. Raise a lot of hell and make a lot of $$$ for himself out of the chaos.

Not as unlikely as I used to think now that the USA has given him Copyright status on the 'Bitcoin White Paper' and the original bitcoin process itself.

Another concern is, this seems to cover stuff with bitcoin at the beginning before it was 'open source'. Does that mean according to US law he can now enforce

the copyright against bitcoin core and bitcoin cash? What a cluster.

anyway, this drama will go on for years out of court or in the court of public opinion...making Craig Wright, even if proved a fraud a lot of $$$$.






Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: AriBitcoin on May 21, 2019, 05:05:19 PM
Curious. Does anyone think it is impossible that Wright is Satoshi?

Yes, unless he signs a message using the private keys of Satoshi Nakamoto.

Meaning that if he doesn't sign, then it is impossible that he is Satoshi?

No, I wouldn't say 100% that he is NOT Satoshi if he doesn't sign any message. He may have lost the keys, destroyed them or something like that. However, message signing is the only reliable way to determine whether he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto or not. In the real sense, this event does not have any significance as it is still the same - there's no proof. I could also scream on top of my voice that I am Satoshi Nakamato, but that doesn't help in any way, there's no legible proof to back my claim.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: kosmost on May 21, 2019, 05:16:11 PM
No, I wouldn't say 100% that he is NOT Satoshi if he doesn't sign any message. He may have lost the keys, destroyed them or something like that. However, message signing is the only reliable way to determine whether he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto or not. In the real sense, this event does not have any significance as it is still the same - there's no proof. I could also scream on top of my voice that I am Satoshi Nakamato, but that doesn't help in any way, there's no legible proof to back my claim.

I suppose the real Satoshi would take it as far as possible, exhausting all other avenues for 'proof' and make it so that the only way to trust that the information is true is... using his own invention. Isn't the discovery of truth after the trials of the Hero's Journey not the ultimate 'proof of work'?

IF this was the case, who would validate Satoshi's transaction? Anyone?

The question would be that if Wright could actually sign the message, would we trust it? I can almost guarantee that this proof would be refuted by Bitcoin proponents. (Personally, I don't care. But I do find it curious how emotional people are getting about it, and that almost always clouds critical thinking.)

And I think that would be an awesome lesson, if ever it could be so. The only limitation of a trustless system is our own unwillingness to trust it.

The best trolls have the best lessons. Perhaps Craig Wright is Keyser Söze. Or maybe he's just Frank Underwood and he is enjoying the initials on his new cufflinks.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: gentlemand on May 21, 2019, 05:24:00 PM
OP wants to be taken seriously, yet rolls out zero activity insta nuke account shit like this that can be unravelled within 0.5 seconds. My nasal hair could make the same application. It means nothing.

Weird to see people wander off into their little boxes of madness when once upon a time they were relatively together.



Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: wwzsocki on May 21, 2019, 05:32:12 PM
Wright is now legally establishing that he is Bitcoin’s creator after being dismayed to see his original Bitcoin design bastardized by protocol developer groups—first by Bitcoin Core (BTC) in 2017 and then again by Bitcoin Cash (BCH) developers in 2018, said Wright - sympathetic news site CoinGeek.

Jerry Brito, the executive director at CoinCentral, said that anyone can register a copyright with the US Copyright office, as it only involves filing a form. Since the Copyright Office doesn’t investigate the validity of the claims filed they have almost zero legal weight.

Brito also pointed out that someone else could also file a copyright claim to the Bitcoin whitepaper, and the Office will just register all of them. While this will definitely invite a lawsuit from Wright, the validity of both claims would be decided by a court.

However, even if Wright’s claim was found to be false it would have little consequence As Chris Harvey, a venture capital lawyer with the Harvey Esquire APC pointed out, no company has ever been prosecuted for false copyright registration, which is punishable by a fine of up to $2,500.


https://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=15&ti=1,15&Search_Arg=bitcoin&Search_Code=FT%2A&CNT=25&PID=nzoD_881lnuCunVeTvIfD742gwJ8&SEQ=20190521081301&SID=1

https://cryptoslate.com/bitcoin-whitepaper-software-copyrighted-craig-wright/



Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: LeGaulois on May 21, 2019, 05:41:38 PM

Since US recognized him as the Satoshi the creator of Bitcoin, does he have the right to also file a trademark to blockchain?

This could be seen as if he owns this technology and that all other who copied are going to be illegal. It must be anther story one day but if this happen can they take down all the altcoins using blockchain technology?

The blockchain technology and the Blockchain are both differents
- Blockchain is a name
- blockchain (technology) is a common and countable noun

Anyway, if I'm correct, the Blockchain name is already registered with blockchain.com. It's like if you register the name "Internet" it doesn't mean you invented it.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: pushups44 on May 21, 2019, 05:43:07 PM
https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-creator-craig-s-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-granted-us-copyright-registrations-for-bitcoin-white-paper-and-code/

implications for Bitcoin?

From what I understand a copyright registration is not the same as being a copyright holder. Yes, the U.S. government needs to hold CSW accountable, and sooner or later his time of reckoning will come. He is digging himself deeper and deeper into a hole, and taking his claim to court will put the burden on him to provide proof that he's Satoshi like he claims.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: pushups44 on May 21, 2019, 05:46:11 PM
Wright is now legally establishing that he is Bitcoin’s creator after being dismayed to see his original Bitcoin design bastardized by protocol developer groups—first by Bitcoin Core (BTC) in 2017 and then again by Bitcoin Cash (BCH) developers in 2018, said Wright - sympathetic news site CoinGeek.

Jerry Brito, the executive director at CoinCentral, said that anyone can register a copyright with the US Copyright office, as it only involves filing a form. Since the Copyright Office doesn’t investigate the validity of the claims filed they have almost zero legal weight.

Brito also pointed out that someone else could also file a copyright claim to the Bitcoin whitepaper, and the Office will just register all of them. While this will definitely invite a lawsuit from Wright, the validity of both claims would be decided by a court.

However, even if Wright’s claim was found to be false it would have little consequence As Chris Harvey, a venture capital lawyer with the Harvey Esquire APC pointed out, no company has ever been prosecuted for false copyright registration, which is punishable by a fine of up to $2,500.


https://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=15&ti=1,15&Search_Arg=bitcoin&Search_Code=FT%2A&CNT=25&PID=nzoD_881lnuCunVeTvIfD742gwJ8&SEQ=20190521081301&SID=1

https://cryptoslate.com/bitcoin-whitepaper-software-copyrighted-craig-wright/



Reportedly one of the addresses CSW claimed to own in a Florida court case (versus the Kleiman estate) has signed an authenticated message calling him a fraud. It seems he is bound to be discredited as these legal cases advance. He must be held accountable for his behavior. If he's Satoshi, he should sign a message or move the original mined bitcoins.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Broly46 on May 21, 2019, 05:49:29 PM
I don’t know who’s the more ridiculous here, either US Govt or the Craig Wright himself. Or both of them are equally retard. Ok, enough of US Govt crap, let’s look at what the China and North Korea has to say? Ban the bitcoin and everything and anyone who has associated, affiliated, partly or fully anticipated into it.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Yaunfitda on May 21, 2019, 05:57:18 PM
But CCN say's Craig Wright is not Satoshi,  ;D

https://www.ccn.com/technical-proof-craig-wright-not-satoshi-nakamoto

Lol, and the drama still continues, I don't think there will be complications on bitcoin. Why he gonna do next? wipe out all the chains? I don't know why the guy is up to, but for sure he is fraud and not Satoshi, who write the original whitepaper.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: pixie85 on May 21, 2019, 06:01:03 PM
On the plus side, if the US government did officially recognise Wright as satoshi,...

nobody has recognized him as dick, it is just that OP for some reason decide to choose this misleading title for his topic! what CW has done is just submission of a copyright which is not even accepted. and submission is not such a complicated or exclusive thing to do so anybody can do it.

If he gets recognized as Satoshi it means that you no longer have to prove anything. It's a chance for all of you to seek out unclaimed works and be the first to say that it was you and you'll get copyrights. This is so stupid that I'm lost for words.

How much did CW pay the author of this article because he's clearly shilling. SV is so low that even BTC going barely moves its price forward.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: stompix on May 21, 2019, 06:05:52 PM
1) Change the misleading title
2) Lock this idiotic topic
3) FY CW!

ps.
4) Everyone that believed or believes the title, you really need to go out and enjoy some fresh air, it will help your brain recover from this.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: BitcoinFX on May 21, 2019, 06:11:10 PM
Unless ... It's a Trap! (Star Wars song) ...
- https://youtu.be/mK_8gybdF9I

 :D

Tichborne case !?!
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tichborne_case

 ::)


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: pixie85 on May 21, 2019, 06:11:56 PM
Reportedly one of the addresses CSW claimed to own in a Florida court case (versus the Kleiman estate) has signed an authenticated message calling him a fraud. It seems he is bound to be discredited as these legal cases advance. He must be held accountable for his fraudulent claims. If he's Satoshi, he should sign a message or move the original mined bitcoins.

What about this?

Quote
On 10 february Craig Wright tried to convince people that he is Satoshi Nakamoto by releasing an abstract of a research paper called "Black Net" that he supposedly wrote for the Australian government in 2001. The abstract is almost identical to the official Bitcoin whitepaper of October 2008. However, Satoshi had a draft in August 2008 of the Bitcoin whitepaper and when we compare the draft with the official Bitcoin whitepaper, we can see that the corrections made between August and October 2008 are also found in the Craig's paper from "2001". This proves again that he is a liar.
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/apc9c1/craig_wright_caught_lying_again/

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." -Joseph Goebbels
Craig must love that thought.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: ðºÞæ on May 21, 2019, 06:26:01 PM
https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-creator-craig-s-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-granted-us-copyright-registrations-for-bitcoin-white-paper-and-code/

implications for Bitcoin?

implicatins, like any other copyright if he enforces it then, for example this forum must change name. Bitcoin BTC Forum.

https://i.imgur.com/Wttdzwv.png


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: BitcoinFX on May 21, 2019, 06:34:02 PM
https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-creator-craig-s-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-granted-us-copyright-registrations-for-bitcoin-white-paper-and-code/

implications for Bitcoin?

implicatins, like any other copyright if he enforces it then, for example this forum must change name. Bitcoin BTC Forum.

https://i.imgur.com/Wttdzwv.png

Yes - Copyright (c) 2009 Satoshi Nakamoto

NOT - Copyright (c) 2009 Craig Steven Wright

Now see here:
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145673.msg51155067#msg51155067

and here:
- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145673.msg51156985#msg51156985


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: niisarearning on May 21, 2019, 06:35:43 PM
https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-creator-craig-s-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-granted-us-copyright-registrations-for-bitcoin-white-paper-and-code/

implications for Bitcoin?
I am still strongly believes that satoshi nakamoto Javan origin . May be Craig wright might be in his team or they could work together while building bitcoin blockchain . But original satoshi nakamoto should from Japan.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: niisarearning on May 21, 2019, 06:39:14 PM
Reportedly one of the addresses CSW claimed to own in a Florida court case (versus the Kleiman estate) has signed an authenticated message calling him a fraud. It seems he is bound to be discredited as these legal cases advance. He must be held accountable for his fraudulent claims. If he's Satoshi, he should sign a message or move the original mined bitcoins.

What about this?

Quote
On 10 february Craig Wright tried to convince people that he is Satoshi Nakamoto by releasing an abstract of a research paper called "Black Net" that he supposedly wrote for the Australian government in 2001. The abstract is almost identical to the official Bitcoin whitepaper of October 2008. However, Satoshi had a draft in August 2008 of the Bitcoin whitepaper and when we compare the draft with the official Bitcoin whitepaper, we can see that the corrections made between August and October 2008 are also found in the Craig's paper from "2001". This proves again that he is a liar.
https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/apc9c1/craig_wright_caught_lying_again/

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." -Joseph Goebbels
Craig must love that thought.
Yes if somebody saying the same lie again and again people as well as himself starts believe that’s truth like most of people he politicians are doing I think he is fit for politics hope soon he joins politics . He can lie with the proof


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: MysteryMiner on May 21, 2019, 06:42:12 PM
The whitepaper now have brown skid mark over it. Craig Wright is asshole.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: ðºÞæ on May 21, 2019, 06:45:04 PM
Dr. Craig has now been issued a fully vetted certificate of copyright by US Government Copyright office.
This can not be contested unless you have standing so this is now firm.
Dr. Craig has not applied today, he did that months back.
Bitcoin ©
Most likely he will show it to the world at the CoinGeek Scaling Conference in Toronto
He also changed Nationality he denounced Australia Citizenship and is now Antigua and Barbuda Citizen .
How long can Roger Ver hold on to Bitcoin.com, count in hours or days.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7Gyy0_WsAM6RMk.jpg


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: BQ on May 21, 2019, 06:48:53 PM
This is not recognising him as Satoshi, it's the step before (=anyone can reach this step), isn't that right?


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Adriano2010 on May 21, 2019, 06:57:25 PM
Even if they recognize as Satoshi, he is not, why he just don't sign a message from first bitcoin address where is mined 50 bitcoin to proove he is Satoshi? If he can't do this then he is not Satoshi.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: pushups44 on May 21, 2019, 07:44:27 PM
Dr. Craig has now been issued a fully vetted certificate of copyright by US Government Copyright office.
This can not be contested unless you have standing so this is now firm.
Dr. Craig has not applied today, he did that months back.
Bitcoin ©
Most likely he will show it to the world at the CoinGeek Scaling Conference in Toronto
He also changed Nationality he denounced Australia Citizenship and is now Antigua and Barbuda Citizen .
How long can Roger Ver hold on to Bitcoin.com, count in hours or days.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7Gyy0_WsAM6RMk.jpg

Filing a copyright registration is not the same as proving ownership. It only sets a potential basis for a lawsuit, so CSW still has to prove he's Satoshi in the way the community has demanded.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: BitHodler on May 21, 2019, 07:48:16 PM
Such a non event. It was an attempt to have BSV pump hard with capital coming from Calvin and a bunch of other mentally challenged scammers. It went up around 80% where these scammers bought their own coins on the way up.

The whitepaper now have brown skid mark over it. Craig Wright is asshole.
I think Craig and Roger have done a lot together to have people (unfortunately) somewhat meme the Bitcoin white paper with how they constantly refer to it and see it as the absolute definition of Bitcoin.

It's sad to see that there is so much drama going on here, which is completely different when it comes to altcoins. Ethereum for example doesn't have to deal with this nonsense despite the large number of competing platforms.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: ðºÞæ on May 21, 2019, 07:51:19 PM
Dr. Craig has now been issued a fully vetted certificate of copyright by US Government Copyright office.
This can not be contested unless you have standing so this is now firm.
Dr. Craig has not applied today, he did that months back.
Bitcoin ©
Most likely he will show it to the world at the CoinGeek Scaling Conference in Toronto
He also changed Nationality he denounced Australia Citizenship and is now Antigua and Barbuda Citizen .
How long can Roger Ver hold on to Bitcoin.com, count in hours or days.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7Gyy0_WsAM6RMk.jpg

Filing a copyright registration is not the same as proving ownership. It only sets a potential basis for a lawsuit, so CSW still has to prove he's Satoshi in the way the community has demanded.

Bitcoin ©
Dr. Craig has now been issued a fully vetted certificate of copyright by US Government Copyright office.
This can not be contested unless you have standing so this is now firm.
Most likely he will show it to the world at the CoinGeek Scaling Conference in Toronto



Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on May 21, 2019, 07:55:01 PM
Dr. Craig has now been issued a fully vetted certificate of copyright by US Government Copyright office.
This can not be contested unless you have standing so this is now firm.
https://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=3&ti=1,3&Search%5FArg=equity%20based&Search%5FCode=TALL&CNT=25&PID=jI9fB_21cgfzdEN5fsuVSd0vjoX2&SEQ=20190521153630&SID=2
https://archive.is/bYO4v

Ronald Keala Kua Maria was issued with a fully vetted certificate of copyright 3 years ago, in 2016. No one has contested this, so it must be firm. CSW is clearly infringing on the copyright of the one true Satoshi, RKKM.

Or maybe, just maybe, this whole stupid publicity stunt he has pulled is completely meaningless.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: takngantuk on May 21, 2019, 07:57:41 PM
https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-creator-craig-s-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-granted-us-copyright-registrations-for-bitcoin-white-paper-and-code/

implications for Bitcoin?
Is this a new conspiracy? Come on, from the start, everyone here knew that Craig Wright was not satoshi. so even if they do this, I don't think it will change anything here.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: pushups44 on May 21, 2019, 08:02:44 PM
Dr. Craig has now been issued a fully vetted certificate of copyright by US Government Copyright office.
This can not be contested unless you have standing so this is now firm.
Dr. Craig has not applied today, he did that months back.
Bitcoin ©
Most likely he will show it to the world at the CoinGeek Scaling Conference in Toronto
He also changed Nationality he denounced Australia Citizenship and is now Antigua and Barbuda Citizen .
How long can Roger Ver hold on to Bitcoin.com, count in hours or days.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7Gyy0_WsAM6RMk.jpg

Filing a copyright registration is not the same as proving ownership. It only sets a potential basis for a lawsuit, so CSW still has to prove he's Satoshi in the way the community has demanded.

Bitcoin ©
Dr. Craig has now been issued a fully vetted certificate of copyright by US Government Copyright office.
This can not be contested unless you have standing so this is now firm.
Most likely he will show it to the world at the CoinGeek Scaling Conference in Toronto



This is from the government website:

"An application contains three essential elements: a completed application form, a nonrefundable filing fee, and a nonreturnable deposit—
that is, a copy or copies of the work being registered and 'deposited' with the Copyright Office."


https://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ01.pdf

Once again, ANYONE could have registered the bitcoin whitepaper according to the government website.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: ðºÞæ on May 21, 2019, 08:08:04 PM
Dr. Craig has now been issued a fully vetted certificate of copyright by US Government Copyright office.
This can not be contested unless you have standing so this is now firm.
https://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=3&ti=1,3&Search%5FArg=equity%20based&Search%5FCode=TALL&CNT=25&PID=jI9fB_21cgfzdEN5fsuVSd0vjoX2&SEQ=20190521153630&SID=2

Ronald Keala Kua Maria was issued with a fully vetted certificate of copyright 3 years ago, in 2016. No one has contested this, so it must be firm. CSW is clearly infringing on the copyright of the one true Satoshi, RKKM.

Or maybe, just maybe, this whole stupid publicity stunt he has pulled is completely meaningless.

Bitcoin was copyrighted from whitepaper and code version 0.1
A copyright can be maintained under a pseudonym.


Here is applications only
https://cryptobriefing.com/us-grants-craig-wright-copyright-on-original-bitcoin-whitepaper/

https://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=6&ti=1,6&Search_Arg=bitcoin&Search_Code=TALL&CNT=25&PID=8YeSxz-Mt2xTN_qdmo2gMEQzIEOsU&SEQ=20190521122755&SID=1

https://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=8&ti=1,8&Search_Arg=bitcoin&Search_Code=TALL&CNT=25&PID=8YeSxz-Mt2xTN_qdmo2gMEQzIEOsU&SEQ=20190521122755&SID=1


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: squatter on May 21, 2019, 08:14:42 PM
This is pretty hilarious. Does he really believe this will hold up in court?

The code was released under MIT license. Hilariously, Wright seems very confused (https://www.ccn.com/craig-wrights-bitcoin-copyright-blockchain-bombshell-or-absolute-farce) about how this works in practice:

Quote
Wright claims that other blockchains besides his chosen implementation of Bitcoin, Bitcoin SV, will have to pay for the privilege of using the codebase.

As Jerry Brito from CoinCenter points out (https://cryptoslate.com/bitcoin-whitepaper-software-copyrighted-craig-wright/), these claims "have almost zero legal weight." It's sad that people will have to spend time and money to fight these frivolous claims in court, though, if he tries to exercise any rights under copyright law.

Notably, very little (if any) of the original codebase even exists in the current client anymore.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Nolimitz84 on May 21, 2019, 08:19:35 PM
I'm very glad that many speak out against Craig Wright.One single detail that I don't believe he created bitcoin is that he was silent for 10 years.The question is why?


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on May 21, 2019, 08:23:54 PM
Bitcoin was copyrighted from whitepaper and code version 0.1
A copyright can be maintained under a pseudonym.
And I've shown you a copyright registration from someone else from 3 years ago, exactly the same as CSW's one, claiming the exact same thing that CSW is claiming. What is it exactly that makes the other one false but CSW's true, considering they have both presented the exact same amount of corroborating evidence - i.e. none at all?


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Ucy on May 21, 2019, 08:32:25 PM
I strongly believe numerous Blockchain alternatives can effectively replace Blockchain ...just incase he ends up patenting it to prevent people from building brand new blockhains and  running it in globally without limits

 Hope people are aware that there are lots of cryptocurrencies that aren't built on Blockchain?
Blockchain is just good for decentralizing currencies and transactions.
Bitcoin could easily be migrated to other blockchain alternatives... I believe this is possible

We will continue to host files on stuff like freenet, ipfs  while bitcoin and its transactions are move to other blockchain alternatives


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: ðºÞæ on May 21, 2019, 08:35:13 PM
Bitcoin was copyrighted from whitepaper and code version 0.1
A copyright can be maintained under a pseudonym.
And I've shown you a copyright registration from someone else from 3 years ago, exactly the same as CSW's one, claiming the exact same thing that CSW is claiming. What is it exactly that makes the other one false but CSW's true, considering they have both presented the exact same amount of corroborating evidence - i.e. none at all?
MtGox had bitcoin copyrighted in 2011, did anyone  until now enforce it, no.
Next few weeks Roger Ver will find out if he can hold on to Bitcoin.com


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: franky1 on May 21, 2019, 08:39:34 PM
The code was released under MIT license. Hilariously, Wright seems very confused (https://www.ccn.com/craig-wrights-bitcoin-copyright-blockchain-bombshell-or-absolute-farce) about how this works in practice:

but craig with his name on a certificate in relation to the 2008 whitepaper could claim that he created bitcoin under closed source in 2008 and that MIT infringed him. thus try suing MIT, as well as suing whoever he pleases.
yea theres chances he cant win. but in may cases the people getting sued end up 'settling' just to save money.
thats how the world works these days. fake a claim get them to pay you a % early on to just make you go away


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: pushups44 on May 21, 2019, 10:01:21 PM
Bitcoin was copyrighted from whitepaper and code version 0.1
A copyright can be maintained under a pseudonym.
And I've shown you a copyright registration from someone else from 3 years ago, exactly the same as CSW's one, claiming the exact same thing that CSW is claiming. What is it exactly that makes the other one false but CSW's true, considering they have both presented the exact same amount of corroborating evidence - i.e. none at all?
MtGox had bitcoin copyrighted in 2011, did anyone  until now enforce it, no.
Next few weeks Roger Ver will find out if he can hold on to Bitcoin.com

You're deliberately spreading disinformation here. A claim on Bitcoin.com would require a lawsuit most likely, so there's no way the issue would be resolved in "weeks." Lawsuits typically take years, especially over a subject this complex.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: squatter on May 21, 2019, 10:03:36 PM
The code was released under MIT license. Hilariously, Wright seems very confused (https://www.ccn.com/craig-wrights-bitcoin-copyright-blockchain-bombshell-or-absolute-farce) about how this works in practice:

but craig with his name on a certificate in relation to the 2008 whitepaper could claim that he created bitcoin under closed source in 2008 and that MIT infringed him. thus try suing MIT, as well as suing whoever he pleases.

MIT the entity has nothing to do with it. They are just named for the permissive free software license that originated there (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License).

Satoshi published the original code under the MIT license here (https://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/code/1/tree//trunk/). This is what the license entails:

Quote
Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy
of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal
in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights
to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell
copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is
furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all
copies or substantial portions of the Software.

I don't see how Craig has any leg to stand on, legally. I'm also fairly sure that Craig isn't the first to attempt a copyright claim like this.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: pushups44 on May 21, 2019, 10:05:40 PM
The code was released under MIT license. Hilariously, Wright seems very confused (https://www.ccn.com/craig-wrights-bitcoin-copyright-blockchain-bombshell-or-absolute-farce) about how this works in practice:

but craig with his name on a certificate in relation to the 2008 whitepaper could claim that he created bitcoin under closed source in 2008 and that MIT infringed him. thus try suing MIT, as well as suing whoever he pleases.

MIT the entity has nothing to do with it. They are just named for the permissive free software license that originated there (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License).

Satoshi published the original code under the MIT license here (https://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/code/1/tree//trunk/). This is what the license entails:

Quote
Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy
of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal
in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights
to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell
copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is
furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all
copies or substantial portions of the Software.

I don't see how Craig has any leg to stand on, legally. I'm also fairly sure that Craig isn't the first to attempt a copyright claim like this.

I suspect disinformation is being passed by people trying to pump bitcoin cash SV. It's really fishy how stuff is being made up on the fly and evidence continually ignored while the same propaganda is pushed. Again, what is the motive of this disinformation?


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: rodel caling on May 21, 2019, 10:19:57 PM
https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-creator-craig-s-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-granted-us-copyright-registrations-for-bitcoin-white-paper-and-code/

implications for Bitcoin?
They could do it,We all have different opinion and I think most of us already know that he is not the real or original Satoshi Nakamoto ,
People could believe or say whatever they want but don't expect that everyone would agree to it.
No matter what happens the real crypto enthusiast wouldn't see him as Satoshi since he couldn't prove it.


Yeah that is truly craig wright claiming he is a real satoshi but people didn't convince for his ambitions, I don't understand what is the basis about this news.

I suspect disinformation is being passed by people trying to pump bitcoin cash SV. It's really fishy how stuff is being made up on the fly and evidence continually ignored while the same propaganda is pushed. Again, what is the motive of this disinformation?
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You had a point, this time bitcoin raising up i think craig make possible strategy because he want to try bitcoin cash SV to race the bitcoin at this moment.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: tippytoes on May 21, 2019, 10:24:05 PM
https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-creator-craig-s-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-granted-us-copyright-registrations-for-bitcoin-white-paper-and-code/

implications for Bitcoin?
They could do it,We all have different opinion and I think most of us already know that he is not the real or original Satoshi Nakamoto ,
People could believe or say whatever they want but don't expect that everyone would agree to it.
No matter what happens the real crypto enthusiast wouldn't see him as Satoshi since he couldn't prove it.


Yeah that is truly craig wright claiming he is a real satoshi but people didn't convince for his ambitions, I don't understand what is the basis about this news.

Been seeing threads related to this topic. But I want to know if the US Copyright Office already granted the approval of the filing of Wright? I thought he just filed the registration docs but nothing tangible yet. Unless, once you filed, is it assumed approved? Can somebody file a petition of fraud?


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: TimeBits on May 21, 2019, 10:26:06 PM
If this guy is Satoshi Nakamoto, I am selling all my Bitcoin and buying Dogecoin, Maybe Bitconnect 2.0  ;D


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Cuk0ng_bitc0in on May 21, 2019, 10:26:42 PM
I hate him.  he fraud many people by regard themselves as satoshi.  and in reality he only wil to find popularity behind the name of Satoshi.  I read in the media that there was a lot of false evidence and he could not prove it as the original satoshi.  I don't want to hear about him.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Oceat on May 21, 2019, 10:28:45 PM
Someone must have made up all of this mess i guess and i don't know why they really have to push it while trying to convince most of the people that he is really the Satoshi. I guess they want the Bitcoin SV to get more investors for adoption to raise their price or maybe someone must have been trying to convince that about the faketoshi so that most exchanges would have to delist them. ???


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: sgbett on May 21, 2019, 10:29:44 PM
OP wants to be taken seriously, yet rolls out zero activity insta nuke account shit like this that can be unravelled within 0.5 seconds. My nasal hair could make the same application. It means nothing.

Weird to see people wander off into their little boxes of madness when once upon a time they were relatively together.



I dont really parse the first sentence, "want to be taken seriously"? Why on earth would I come for bitcointalk for "peer validation" ;) honestly, have you read the responses here. it's incredible.

Mind you, all is not lost fro you - from your tone it seems you are ahead of the game - already at #stage2anger

most are still at #stage1denial

whats been absolutely fascinating about this thread is discovering that in fact many are at a previously undiscovered "stage 0" - absolutely clueless


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: traderethereum on May 21, 2019, 10:32:20 PM
I hate him.  he fraud many people by regard themselves as satoshi.  and in reality he only wil to find popularity behind the name of Satoshi.  I read in the media that there was a lot of false evidence and he could not prove it as the original satoshi.  I don't want to hear about him.
We cannot do anything to him, and we could only wish that he will stop for spreading the fake news so the public will not get false news.
Let the US Govt say like that because they can do that and we don't have to listen to them, and it's better to leave this as a mystery.
If the time is right, the real Satoshi Nakamoto will show himself to the public (or he will not ;D).


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: sgbett on May 21, 2019, 10:55:47 PM
Has anyone considered that they are having an emotional response based on fear that their BTC holdings are going to devalue?

I don't suppose many of you really know me, my history on BCT, but I can assure you I know what that feels like to feel fear.

It was during the original BTC/BCH split where I had to make a decision, at the time CSW wasn't such big factor. Perhaps that made it easier, I don't know.

What made it *really* difficult was being a staunch BTC holder for years. It was like BCH was an attack on *my* Bitcoin.

When I eventually concluded that BCH represented the Bitcoin I believe in, despite being invested in BTC, thats when I knew it must be.

When BCH/BSV split happened it was easier, and yet still I had the bias of $ value dragging me one way.

Still, I chose BSV because I have, since I was first here (check me out if you like) always believed in *Bitcoin*.

I still do, unwavering, unfaltering. It was never about CSW, yet for so many of you BTC die hards, it still seems to be.

Fascinating.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: thecryptotho on May 21, 2019, 11:01:36 PM
Please don't spread misinformation. The US Government is not recognizing Craig Wright at all - anyone could make this filing. It doesn't confirm anything and just shows further that he doesn't understand bitcoin.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: franky1 on May 21, 2019, 11:07:33 PM
The code was released under MIT license. Hilariously, Wright seems very confused (https://www.ccn.com/craig-wrights-bitcoin-copyright-blockchain-bombshell-or-absolute-farce) about how this works in practice:

but craig with his name on a certificate in relation to the 2008 whitepaper could claim that he created bitcoin under closed source in 2008 and that MIT infringed him. thus try suing MIT, as well as suing whoever he pleases.

MIT the entity has nothing to do with it. They are just named for the permissive free software license that originated there (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License).

Satoshi published the original code under the MIT license here (https://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/code/1/tree//trunk/). This is what the license entails:

I don't see how Craig has any leg to stand on, legally. I'm also fairly sure that Craig isn't the first to attempt a copyright claim like this.

I suspect disinformation is being passed by people trying to pump bitcoin cash SV. It's really fishy how stuff is being made up on the fly and evidence continually ignored while the same propaganda is pushed. Again, what is the motive of this disinformation?

the point is not what is evident. its that some aussie con man can try finding some loose reason to try sueing an institution not to win. not to prove anything. but to try getting a early 'settlement' just to make the claim go away.

EG craig can with his name on a certificate can say his version 0.1 in january was X but MIT edited 0.1.5 in september 2009 to add MIT open source.
even though its not true. now MIT has to respond IN COURT

this happens many many times. people file frivolous patent suits even for things they dont own. but do it just to try getting quick settlements. all they need is something flimsy just to kickstart a case

craig doesnt need a leg to stand on. all he needs is a toe in the door and then he can harass anyone that opens a door to him. thats the point. to have legal standing involves standing in court to defend. all craig needs to do is show some flimsy certificate to atleast start a fight. and then let the other side get bloody trying to defend/counter. bcaus if they dont defend it, he wins by default. in which case most just pay up to shut up.

EG go to a bar. find someone that looks like they dont want to fight/cant fight and try to provoke them. more then likely the other side will try to avoid a fight by giving you a free beer to cheer you up/calm you down. even if the one getting provoked done nothing wrong


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: franky1 on May 21, 2019, 11:17:18 PM
Please don't spread misinformation. The US Government is not recognizing Craig Wright at all - anyone could make this filing. It doesn't confirm anything and just shows further that he doesn't understand bitcoin.

anyone in america prepared to file to change the record so it shows something like 'satoshi and everyone under MIT licence open source' just to quash this or prove its that easy to get craig removed


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Indrawan77 on May 21, 2019, 11:20:21 PM
I have a feeling that this is not right, I think Craig is just looking for popularity, why suddenly a person come out and claiming that he created bitcoin, it's very strange and why does he want to develop the BSV, isn't it better for him to just develop bitcoin that already got fame and value, something is really odd


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Artemis3 on May 21, 2019, 11:41:45 PM
implications for Bitcoin?

Hmmph, faketoshi is faketoshi. His little altcoin is going nowhere even after pulling this stunt, no one believes this fraud. So whats next, sending C&D letters to anyone daring to reproduce the white paper? Let him try, see where he gets when angering the Net...

This proves once again that copyright law in the US is a joke, but then that is the country with the eternal Mickey Mouse © where even silence (https://commonplacefacts.wordpress.com/2018/11/07/silence-is-golden-and-subject-to-copyright/) got a ©.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: franky1 on May 21, 2019, 11:56:00 PM
So whats next, sending C&D letters to anyone daring to reproduce the white paper? Let him try

thats my theory of his next game. and its a very lucrative market for scammers.
spend a cheap lawsuit filing fee to open a case after a C&D warning shot. then make the recipient either not defend it, thus default win for craig. or the recipient trie settling with craig just to make him go away.

i dont think craig has any intention to use his now certificated name on that copyright to actually go through the full hurdle of a full lawsuit against people he C&D spams. he just wants to play the patent scammer trend of cheap settlement scamming

after all look at how many millions he scammed with just a text file of PUBLIC keys as his weapon a few years back. now h has a governemt piece of paper naming him for something. which can be weaponised too


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: figmentofmyass on May 22, 2019, 12:05:16 AM
Has anyone considered that they are having an emotional response based on fear that their BTC holdings are going to devalue?

if that's the case, why isn't the market pricing that in? the market has been completely sideways since this news emerged.

i reckon that wright's infamy might work in BSV's favor price-wise---any news is good news, right? but i don't think it has much effect on bitcoin.

I still do, unwavering, unfaltering. It was never about CSW, yet for so many of you BTC die hards, it still seems to be.

Fascinating.

unfortunately, the guy keeps inserting himself back into the conversation and people keep taking the bait. i'll be glad when he's no longer a subject of discussion, but he keeps finding silly ways to garner headlines.

he sure knows how to get under peoples skin. :D


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: rdbase on May 22, 2019, 12:14:22 AM
With statements like this one no wonder he keeps trucking on and gets under millionaires skin.
https://www.ccn.com/craig-wright-binance-bucketshop-john-mcafee-a-conman

With the interview he did for nChain a new startup he is making himself to look less then who he claims to be. :-X

Who created Bitcoin? Craig Wright reveals alleged contributors for the first time
https://youtu.be/8_SoIXUBIhw


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: BlackFor3st on May 22, 2019, 12:37:33 AM
It doesn't imply that his action proves that he is the genuine Satoshi Nakamoto as most of us already know that he is not the real one.

I wonder why U.S granted Craig S. Wright and even recognize him as the creator of Bitcoin. I am not sure if U.S is pulling something about their action and they are taking advantage about the anonymity of bitcoin that is why they want it to be owned by someone from their country which provide them a good advantage.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: oriontab on May 22, 2019, 12:47:22 AM
Good for him and those who support his cause,If by this they think the identity of Satoshi will be revealed to contest his claim they obviously are a bunch of jokers. Whoever wrote the white paper is irrelevant. Popular opinion is that it is Satoshi, some patent office is never going to change that in the heart of true bitcoin enthusiastes. BSV is altcoin and should be discussed under altcoin section.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: ðºÞæ on May 22, 2019, 03:51:49 AM
Good for him and those who support his cause,If by this they think the identity of Satoshi will be revealed to contest his claim they obviously are a bunch of jokers. Whoever wrote the white paper is irrelevant. Popular opinion is that it is Satoshi, some patent office is never going to change that in the heart of true bitcoin enthusiastes. BSV is altcoin and should be discussed under altcoin section.

Ohh really? Let me guess whoever wrote first version code according to the  whitepaper is also irrelevant and the only thing relevant is the bags you hold.
Copyright claim has nothing to do with patent office, he has over 700 patent applications pending, one or two approved so far.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: coin-investor on May 22, 2019, 07:02:03 AM
On the plus side, if the US government did officially recognise Wright as satoshi,...

nobody has recognized him as dick, it is just that OP for some reason decide to choose this misleading title for his topic! what CW has done is just submission of a copyright which is not even accepted. and submission is not such a complicated or exclusive thing to do so anybody can do it.

That's a good way to attract more readers and comments if we have one good lawyer who does not believe in what Craig is doing he can object to that and charge Wright as personating a popular figure, somebody should stand up against this impostor, he will get a lot of support here if someone stand against this idiot.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Dapper on May 22, 2019, 07:16:55 AM
If he wanted to prove anything, he could simply just move one or two "Satoshis" from a few of the original bitcoin core addresses.   Right now he's the equivalent of those folks who take photos of themselves with other people's luxury automobiles.     :D


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: RivAngE on May 22, 2019, 07:33:06 AM
Please don't spread misinformation. The US Government is not recognizing Craig Wright at all - anyone could make this filing. It doesn't confirm anything and just shows further that he doesn't understand bitcoin.

When I first read the article it was a bit confusing for me.
My logic-circuit was telling me that this is only an application which any madman can do.
Then I read the following part which is supposingly quoted from the registration,
Quote
The registration recognizes the author as Craig Steven Wright, using the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto
The grammatical tense which is used here makes the statement sound like it's decided, but again I couldn't believe the US copyright office would be so incompetent and clueless.

The article also writes "Wright is now legally establishing that he is Bitcoin’s creator after being dismayed to see his original Bitcoin design" but I guess since they're supporting BSV, it's normal for them to be delusional.

To all BSV supporters, I've an idea you can consider for whenever you want to spread your news!
Here, I made an image for you to visualise it,

https://i.imgflip.com/31l2eq.jpg


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: ene1980 on May 22, 2019, 08:01:56 AM
who cares if US reconized him as satoshi
We know that his purpose is to milk every penny he can from Bitcoin.
He may now be able to start copyrighting and patenting. I really hope I'm wrong.
If he did patent to start milking money from the entire projects created, then it will be a bigger problem than we could imagine, even if he is the creator or part of the team, he could have proved that earlier and shut all these speculations but he choose the other option that is filled with drama which makes no sense and with the current copyright and patenting it looks like he wanted everyone to shit on him so that he can go after everyone and what will be the end result. ::)


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: stompix on May 22, 2019, 08:21:19 AM
Still, I chose BSV because I have, since I was first here (check me out if you like) always believed in *Bitcoin*.

Oh, so the whole clickbait shit title makes sense now.
A BSV fanboy has decided that if a copyright claim is submitted it means the US Gubbermint is recognizing CW as Satoshi.

Seriously, I've never heard even once the US government recognizing through a bill or something that guy is a guy.
This is not national interest stuff, this is not politics and CW is not an US citizen.

So, the whole thing simply means nothing.

Btw, what do you hope, the US government breaking into houses and forcing bitcoin owners to change their coins to shitsv?
This is the spirit of Bitcoin, relying on the state to force people to use a certain coin?
Indeed, the ideal world Satoshi wanted, how blind I was!!!!



Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on May 22, 2019, 08:34:49 AM
I don't understand what Craig Wright want so far, because if he is really Satoshi Nakamoto what will he does to bitcoin afterward. Wheater he will changing bitcoin to bitcoin sv or changing bitcoin with bitcoin cash? So as bitcoin will don't have a value. However, this case just will make him looks like crazy person IMO although I don't understand the mission he wants.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: enhu on May 22, 2019, 06:18:50 PM
I don't understand what Craig Wright want so far, because if he is really Satoshi Nakamoto what will he does to bitcoin afterward. Wheater he will changing bitcoin to bitcoin sv or changing bitcoin with bitcoin cash? So as bitcoin will don't have a value. However, this case just will make him looks like crazy person IMO although I don't understand the mission he wants.

To him, forking means he own the coin and thus proves he is Satoshi. I think that's the whole point of all he had done.  It should have been easy for him to get our vote if he just prove it by signing a message but since he can't, his fans has to go all these troubles of publishing articles to pump its price. He seem to forget Craig isn't from US.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Paashaas on May 22, 2019, 06:23:37 PM
This guy is trying to find every hole in the system to prove himself being Satoshi, while nobody actually believes him. :-\

Sad and pathetic.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: MakeMoneyBtc on May 22, 2019, 06:44:13 PM
We all know this person is not the real Satoshi and all he is trying to do is take credits for something that someone else created. The real Satoshi wanted to remain anonymous and that's exactly why he didn't tried to claim his rights for the white paper but now it seems like the right thing to reveal himself because other people are trying to steal his work and basically his identity.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Searing on May 22, 2019, 06:49:03 PM


I made a thread on what the heck is all this drama and eventual endgame he hopes to accomplish...I just don't get it. :(

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145827.0;topicseen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145827.0;topicseen)

Anyway, for further consideration of the madness that is Craig Wright and his Satoshi obsession.



Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Ultimist on May 22, 2019, 07:22:26 PM
The bitcoin community is distrustful of this news. Many believe it is not real Satoshi. I also hold that view. Therefore, I do not think that this will significantly affect bitcoin.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Mrsparks on May 22, 2019, 07:39:03 PM
Hum why has Craig Wright refuse to focus on his project  BSV? I think this continous drama will do no good to the crypto space.. If he truly is Satoshi why has he failed to log in using his keys? Why start another project if you have a working one? I think only Craig can answer this questions..


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: ðºÞæ on May 22, 2019, 07:56:16 PM
Hum why has Craig Wright refuse to focus on his project  BSV? I think this continous drama will do no good to the crypto space.. If he truly is Satoshi why has he failed to log in using his keys? Why start another project if you have a working one? I think only Craig can answer this questions..

When did he start another project?
https://bico.media/326dbe1cffb6cee733c146726643a4369321f9a8a548c5bfb09fe59fcb716047


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: squatter on May 22, 2019, 09:00:17 PM
Hum why has Craig Wright refuse to focus on his project  BSV? I think this continous drama will do no good to the crypto space.. If he truly is Satoshi why has he failed to log in using his keys? Why start another project if you have a working one? I think only Craig can answer this questions..

When did he start another project?
https://bico.media/326dbe1cffb6cee733c146726643a4369321f9a8a548c5bfb09fe59fcb716047

That's quite the misleading image.

BCH was a hard fork of Bitcoin -- unlike Bitcoin, it is literally incompatible with the original protocol. BSV was a hard fork of BCH, so it's an even further perversion of what Bitcoin used to be.

The only protocol compatible with pre-Segwit Bitcoin is... Bitcoin. ;)


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: fiulpro on May 22, 2019, 09:20:53 PM
Ok first of all let me just say one thing ,

He submitted the papers that's right , as Satoshi Nakamato

BUT

There is a twist,

The US copyright office said , He is not recognized as the owner of Bitcoins

End of the story.

This is quite funny though  :) because we all know he is going to try again.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: gentlemand on May 22, 2019, 10:12:20 PM
Ahem

https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2019/05/22/1558547272000/Craig-Wright-has-in-no-way-been-officially--recognised--as-Satoshi-Nakamoto/

'When the Copyright Office receives an application for registration, the claimant certifies as to the truth of the statements made in the submitted materials. The Copyright Office does not investigate the truth of any statement made.'

I hope this thread dies the horrible, agonising death it so richly deserves with lashings of pus, blood, vomit, mucus and prolapsing.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: sgbett on May 22, 2019, 10:16:21 PM
Ahem

https://ftalphaville.ft.com/2019/05/22/1558547272000/Craig-Wright-has-in-no-way-been-officially--recognised--as-Satoshi-Nakamoto/

'When the Copyright Office receives an application for registration, the claimant certifies as to the truth of the statements made in the submitted materials. The Copyright Office does not investigate the truth of any statement made.'

I hope this thread dies the horrible, agonising death it so richly deserves with lashings of pus, blood, vomit, mucus and prolapsing.

https://www.copyright.gov/press-media-info/press-updates.html?loclr=twcop

Quote
In the case of the two registrations issued to Mr. Wright, during the examination process, the Office took note of the well-known pseudonym “Satoshi Nakamoto,” and asked the applicant to confirm that Craig Steven Wright was the author and claimant of the works being registered. Mr. Wright made that confirmation.

Of course you want this thread to die. Every day more and more light is shone into the dark places. It must be terrifying.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: coinluisa on May 22, 2019, 10:17:44 PM
https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-creator-craig-s-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-granted-us-copyright-registrations-for-bitcoin-white-paper-and-code/

implications for Bitcoin?
They could do it,We all have different opinion and I think most of us already know that he is not the real or original Satoshi Nakamoto ,
People could believe or say whatever they want but don't expect that everyone would agree to it.
No matter what happens the real crypto enthusiast wouldn't see him as Satoshi since he couldn't prove it.
That's true because how you can re identify if that's a real Satoshi nakomoto? No one knows who is he so better do what we do in crypto that to listen to people that can't give a good information. Yes we have a different opinion but not this opinion will be help about the situation.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: jerry0 on May 23, 2019, 07:01:43 AM
What is the purpose of him claiming this?  Do people here think it was him though more or less?


Also does he have a lot of crypto especially btc SV?  He's already rich right?  So this is for fame or something?


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: squatter on May 23, 2019, 07:14:35 AM
https://www.copyright.gov/press-media-info/press-updates.html?loclr=twcop

Quote
In the case of the two registrations issued to Mr. Wright, during the examination process, the Office took note of the well-known pseudonym “Satoshi Nakamoto,” and asked the applicant to confirm that Craig Steven Wright was the author and claimant of the works being registered. Mr. Wright made that confirmation.

We're just supposed to take his word for it? :D

Anyone is free to claim they're Satoshi, but I prefer the "don't trust, verify" ethic. Craig Wright looks like any other wingnut filing a copyright claim.

What is the purpose of him claiming this? 

That's what we're all trying to figure out. The copyright claim doesn't give him any authority or recognition, under the law or otherwise. His logic is probably something along the lines of, "If I say it enough times, some people will think it's true."


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: RivAngE on May 23, 2019, 07:37:05 AM
https://www.copyright.gov/press-media-info/press-updates.html?loclr=twcop

Quote
In the case of the two registrations issued to Mr. Wright, during the examination process, the Office took note of the well-known pseudonym “Satoshi Nakamoto,” and asked the applicant to confirm that Craig Steven Wright was the author and claimant of the works being registered. Mr. Wright made that confirmation.

We're just supposed to take his word for it? :D

Anyone is free to claim they're Satoshi, but I prefer the "don't trust, verify" ethic. Craig Wright looks like any other wingnut filing a copyright claim.

What is the purpose of him claiming this? 

That's what we're all trying to figure out. The copyright claim doesn't give him any authority or recognition, under the law or otherwise. His logic is probably something along the lines of, "If I say it enough times, some people will think it's true."

It was a formula to pump his shitcoin.
The formula is made of,
- many BSV shillers,
- a lot of stupidity for people to believe them without prior research,
- and a few opportunist traders who ride the fun and will hopefully get out before the price collapses.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: leea-1334 on May 23, 2019, 09:39:46 AM
On the plus side, if the US government did officially recognise Wright as satoshi,...

nobody has recognized him as dick, it is just that OP for some reason decide to choose this misleading title for his topic! what CW has done is just submission of a copyright which is not even accepted. and submission is not such a complicated or exclusive thing to do so anybody can do it.

That's a good way to attract more readers and comments if we have one good lawyer who does not believe in what Craig is doing he can object to that and charge Wright as personating a popular figure, somebody should stand up against this impostor, he will get a lot of support here if someone stand against this idiot.

Everybody should read the news, properly and refer to all the sources. So much wrong information going on and come on, the US government recognizing him as Satoshi, so what? US government recognizes US dollar. It also said Iraq had chemical bombs but then never found it. Since when have we put all our trust in the US government anyway? They can say whatever they want. So can Craig Wright. Let us not be sheep and follow blindly.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: sgbett on May 23, 2019, 09:52:35 AM
https://www.copyright.gov/press-media-info/press-updates.html?loclr=twcop

Quote
In the case of the two registrations issued to Mr. Wright, during the examination process, the Office took note of the well-known pseudonym “Satoshi Nakamoto,” and asked the applicant to confirm that Craig Steven Wright was the author and claimant of the works being registered. Mr. Wright made that confirmation.

We're just supposed to take his word for it? :D

Anyone is free to claim they're Satoshi, but I prefer the "don't trust, verify" ethic. Craig Wright looks like any other wingnut filing a copyright claim.

What is the purpose of him claiming this?  

That's what we're all trying to figure out. The copyright claim doesn't give him any authority or recognition, under the law or otherwise. His logic is probably something along the lines of, "If I say it enough times, some people will think it's true."

Well speculate no more lofty platitude wielder, you'll figure out far more if you follow your own advice. Who told you it was "meaningless" or did you imagine it? Why did they tell you it was meaningless? What was their *motive* for doing so. Guys need to start thinking for yourselves and doing the research... *YOURSELF* you won't always get the facts laid out on a plate for you, but here this one's for free...

https://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap4.html#411

"(b), no civil action for infringement of the copyright in any United States work shall be instituted until preregistration or registration of the copyright claim has been made in accordance with this title."

Do you understand now why he applied for registration?... It's a necessary pre-requisite before taking legal action.

Trust, but verify.

That way you find out how you can trust later. It's how you build reputation, a network built around honesty. Otherwise you have to verify everything all the time which is totally unpractical. Kinda like Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on May 23, 2019, 10:00:11 AM
Craig Wright is going to end up as the biggest loser in cryptospace. Honestly the guy has no shame, he really is embarrassing. I can’t wait to see his demise, he’s a laughable conman.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: XinXan on May 23, 2019, 10:07:45 AM
https://www.copyright.gov/press-media-info/press-updates.html?loclr=twcop

Quote
In the case of the two registrations issued to Mr. Wright, during the examination process, the Office took note of the well-known pseudonym “Satoshi Nakamoto,” and asked the applicant to confirm that Craig Steven Wright was the author and claimant of the works being registered. Mr. Wright made that confirmation.

We're just supposed to take his word for it? :D

Anyone is free to claim they're Satoshi, but I prefer the "don't trust, verify" ethic. Craig Wright looks like any other wingnut filing a copyright claim.

What is the purpose of him claiming this?  

That's what we're all trying to figure out. The copyright claim doesn't give him any authority or recognition, under the law or otherwise. His logic is probably something along the lines of, "If I say it enough times, some people will think it's true."

Well speculate no more lofty platitude wielder, you'll figure out far more if you follow your own advice. Who told you it was "meaningless" or did you imagine it? Why did they tell you it was meaningless? What was their *motive* for doing so. Guys need to start thinking for yourselves and doing the research... *YOURSELF* you won't always get the facts laid out on a plate for you, but here this one's for free...

https://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap4.html#411

"(b), no civil action for infringement of the copyright in any United States work shall be instituted until preregistration or registration of the copyright claim has been made in accordance with this title."

Do you understand now why he applied for registration?... It's a necessary pre-requisite before taking legal action.

Trust, but verify.

That way you find out how you can trust later. It's how you build reputation, a network built around honesty. Otherwise you have to verify everything all the time which is totally unpractical. Kinda like Bitcoin.

He applied for it because he knew it would cause a massive spike for bitcoin sv and a lot of speculation. He knew social media would jump into it like flies jump into shit.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: RivAngE on May 23, 2019, 11:45:08 AM
Well speculate no more lofty platitude wielder, you'll figure out far more if you follow your own advice. Who told you it was "meaningless" or did you imagine it? Why did they tell you it was meaningless? What was their *motive* for doing so. Guys need to start thinking for yourselves and doing the research... *YOURSELF* you won't always get the facts laid out on a plate for you, but here this one's for free...

https://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap4.html#411

"(b), no civil action for infringement of the copyright in any United States work shall be instituted until preregistration or registration of the copyright claim has been made in accordance with this title."

Do you understand now why he applied for registration?... It's a necessary pre-requisite before taking legal action.

Trust, but verify.

That way you find out how you can trust later. It's how you build reputation, a network built around honesty. Otherwise you have to verify everything all the time which is totally unpractical. Kinda like Bitcoin.

Maybe I'm stupid and if that's the case, I apologise for it, but I don't understand what does your statement proves.
From what I understand, this is what happened in a timeline,
  • Hodlonaut reportedly starts #CraigWrightIsAFraud on Twitter
  • Craig puts a bounty to whoever finds Hodlonaut's real identity (democracy at its best)
  • Vitalik referred to Craig as a scammer and as a fake publicly (more than once!)
  • Craig's lawyers send a Letter of Claim to Vitalik asking him to back out of his comments, apologies publicly and admitting that Craig is Satoshi Nakamoto (https://coingeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/2019-04-12_Vitalik-and-Ethereum_WRI2.1.jpg?from=body)
  • Vitalik ignores the Letter
  • Craig's lawyer are legally allowed to sue Vitalik after the Letter's deadline
  • [Personal Guess] Craig asks his lawyers to pursuit a legal suit against Vitalik but they advice him that he doesn't have a chance to win a suit if first he doesn't apply for the copyright
  • [Personal Guess] The next news we'll hear will be a suit against Vitalik who doesn't accept him as Satoshi which is the title he's trying to copyright

I don't know what Craig is trying to achieve, but just think of why would he want to know Hodlonaut's identity? He wouldn't send a hitman after him I hope. He probably wanted to sue Hodlonaut for calling him fraud.
Since this didn't work out, he decided to go after a man who's identity is known and who has also publicly called him fraud; and that's Vitalik.
To me, Craig seems desperate to pursuit a legal action of some sort. Maybe he's hoping to at least win an apology for the damage that was caused to his image so that he can twist this into "I won a legal suit, I am recognised as Satoshi"?


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: jademaxsuy on May 23, 2019, 01:16:08 PM
Well there could be a chance that Craig is part of the making with bitcoin as he do copied the way how.bitcoin was created even its total supply in the market. It seems that this man had knowledge with the pseudo name Satoshi. Whatever it may be either craig is satoshi or not what matter here is that bitcoin is still alive and kicking. We all going to hope that the surge of bitcoin market price is the start of bitcoin bull run.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: serjent05 on May 23, 2019, 01:29:49 PM


Everybody should read the news, properly and refer to all the sources. So much wrong information going on and come on, the US government recognizing him as Satoshi, so what? US government recognizes US dollar. It also said Iraq had chemical bombs but then never found it. Since when have we put all our trust in the US government anyway? They can say whatever they want. So can Craig Wright. Let us not be sheep and follow blindly.

Quote
The U.S. Copyright Office clarified today that it does not recognize Craig Wright as Satoshi Nakamoto—the pseudonymous author of the Bitcoin whitepaper—only that Wright has filed a form claiming that he’s Satoshi.
https://decryptmedia.com/7145/copyright-office-craig-wright-bitcoin

That is to clarify all the confusion.  I feel bad to those investors caught up with this ruckus.  I hope they should investigate first before jumping into some false news that this CW camp released.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Bulgarianhawk on May 23, 2019, 02:20:44 PM
To my mind, this was done to pump BSV by Craig Wright. I don't believe he is real satoshi, as there's no logic in creating btc and stating "hey, I'm a real satoshi." Real satoshi have a lot of btc, so whether this is a single person or a corporation, he (they) mustb't disclose his (their) identity as it might be not safe.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Johnzky on May 23, 2019, 02:27:59 PM
https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-creator-craig-s-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-granted-us-copyright-registrations-for-bitcoin-white-paper-and-code/

implications for Bitcoin?

Well, Craig is a complete fraud and who cares if US reconized him as satoshi. Craig himself cannot prove that he is satoshi so it's a baseless recognition. People claiming to be satoshi will not end not as long as the real satoshi reveals himself which I doubt will never happen.
Right mate and only stupid people in crypto will believe and justify Craig Wright being Satoshi Nakamoto,because why took him years before claiming to be the one while people here are seeking for the creator for how long now
Obviously he claims to be Satoshi because of the growing population and capitalization of this forum so he can milk a lot from us.how foolishness he was


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: sgbett on May 23, 2019, 02:33:31 PM
It's amazing the level of proof y'all demand of CSW, and the lengths you go to hand wave away the mountain of evidence. He's spent decades, and billions on building nChain, filing patents documenting his inventions, fighting lawsuits from those that would seek to try and blackmail and or defame him.

All you libertarian, anarchist types so sure that Bitcoin is going to upset the status quo, but then can't make the glaringly obvious connection as to why so much time and effort would be put into trying to discredit CSW and stop BSV.

But somebody posts some theory about how  he's just going to perjure himself to the USCO, and trying defraud the court system, in order to "pump BSV" and you all just nod and pat each other on the back. Good job bois, you figured it out!


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: squatter on May 23, 2019, 05:22:55 PM
Do you understand now why he applied for registration?... It's a necessary pre-requisite before taking legal action.

Thanks, Captain Obvious. And what makes you think he can meet all of the other requirements needed to succeed in any legal action?

Let's table the discussion about how Craig Wright would obviously face legal disputes over original authorship if he tries to leverage the copyright.

More fundamentally, who could he even take legal action against when -- according to him -- he himself already distributed the the source code under a free software license a decade ago? He has no grounds to extract rent now.

Trust, but verify.

What exactly have you verified?

It's amazing the level of proof y'all demand of CSW, and the lengths you go to hand wave away the mountain of evidence. He's spent decades, and billions on building nChain, filing patents documenting his inventions, fighting lawsuits from those that would seek to try and blackmail and or defame him.

In other words, he's done a bunch of hand-waving and nothing else.

In the free open-source software world, code talks. CSW brings nothing to the table at all.

His legal arguments are completely bogus, too. This is all going to blow up badly in his face one day.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: ðºÞæ on May 23, 2019, 05:36:10 PM
To my mind, this was done to pump BSV by Craig Wright. I don't believe he is real satoshi, as there's no logic in creating btc and stating "hey, I'm a real satoshi." Real satoshi have a lot of btc, so whether this is a single person or a corporation, he (they) mustb't disclose his (their) identity as it might be not safe.
Satoshi, Craig has a lot of  BTC, BCH, BTG........ and Bitcoin.
Segwit coin has nothing to do with bitcoin so he will continue what he created, pure Bitcoin as in BSV.
 


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: akamit on May 23, 2019, 06:22:54 PM
Really I'm seeing this? I don't believe it, I also don't believe USA now.
I will not trust Craig until he signs a msg from a real Satoshi address. No matter what else he does to prove himself as Satoshi, no matter who supports him.


It also said Iraq had chemical bombs but then never found it. Since when have we put all our trust in the US government anyway? They can say whatever they want.
I agree with you here, USA just destroyed Iraq for nothing with a false accusation. They can say whatever they want, they can do whatever they want with their power. Real power abuse IMO!


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: bitcoindusts on May 23, 2019, 06:30:41 PM
Who knows if the claim of Craig Wright to be the author of bitcoin whitepaper and inventor will instead cause the real Satoshi Nakamoto to come out and reveal his true identity. That would be a big shame for Wright for this claim. Nice attempt but just like others whom they pointed to be Satoshi Nakamoto were fake, then the truth with Wright will also come out.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: leea-1334 on May 24, 2019, 05:47:00 AM
I did not realize until reading the responses on this thread that in fact there are so many Craig Wright supporters. It is incredible to be honest,,, that we have people like him and he actually has followers.

I do not know why people talk about real Bitcoin and fake Bitcoin and the true vision. BSV is Craig Wright vision, so okay, go ahead. Why need to name it Satoshi vision and claim to be Satoshi when he has no need for that? Why make claims and then never do what will make everybody believe without a doubt?

Very smart people who follow him, but no common sense. I am not a smart guy at all, but my common sense tells me,,, CW is a publicity seeker. Satoshi avoided publicity.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: CASTIEL05 on May 24, 2019, 06:16:04 AM
Why he was recognised? I don't know the story behind that but there is one thing that I want to say. Whether he or not the bitcoin founder, I cared about the product since Satoshi Nakamoto released in media with his anonimity face. Therefore, I am after the product and not the developer.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: bL4nkcode on May 24, 2019, 06:35:38 AM
Plot twist, CopyWright owned by CraigWright...  ::)

I normally avoid coingeek as it doesn't seem like a very reputable source.  IMO, it's closer to a dedicated shilling site than any sort of legitimate media outlet.
Of course, it was founded by the BSV shills Mr. Ayre. You can't expect good things mentioning bitcoin from that site.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: RivAngE on May 24, 2019, 07:52:07 AM
I did not realize until reading the responses on this thread that in fact there are so many Craig Wright supporters. It is incredible to be honest,,, that we have people like him and he actually has followers.

I do not know why people talk about real Bitcoin and fake Bitcoin and the true vision. BSV is Craig Wright vision, so okay, go ahead. Why need to name it Satoshi vision and claim to be Satoshi when he has no need for that? Why make claims and then never do what will make everybody believe without a doubt?

Very smart people who follow him, but no common sense. I am not a smart guy at all, but my common sense tells me,,, CW is a publicity seeker. Satoshi avoided publicity.

A possible explanation is that Craig was one of the group members known as Satoshi Nakamoto, he could be the only one still alive or still active in the ecosystem so there's no one else closer to being Satoshi.
If he was the only single identity known as Satoshi though, he would have sold 100% of the Bitcoins in the Satoshi's wallets since he's calling those BTCs fake/SigWit/Core and would have bought BSV.

To be honest I haven't done my own research as to which addresses are owned by Satoshi, but I believe that if Craig had moved funds from those addresses then no one would doubt him.

For me personally though, even if he would prove he's Satoshi or if he was 50% or 25% of the Satoshi group wouldn't make a difference. I don't follow a name but an idea.
Satoshi introduced a great concept and a revolutionary payment system. If he would turn into a madman, I wouldn't keep following everything he says because he is Satoshi.
One correct action doesn't make anyone's future actions correct as well.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Broly46 on May 24, 2019, 08:58:38 AM
It's confirm CSW is one of the govt officer, he could be part of the CIA, and he was given the order to ridiculous bitcoin so that it would be easier for the U.S. govt to control the entire market.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: TheHas on May 24, 2019, 09:08:27 AM
If crypto was regulated like stocks, he'd be going to jail for insider trading or running a pump and dump scheme.

Craig probably has a stack of Bitcoin SV, probably bought even more deep before the copyright claim, and I bet you he is dumping hard just having doubled his money from all the people that don't realise a 'claim' doesn't mean it has been found successful.

If he wants to prove he is Satoshi it so easy. Say you'll move an amount of BTC from the 'Satoshi bitcoins' wallet to another, and back again. Say you'll do it on a certain day. And then just do it. Bam you've got a case to be Satoshi.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: talkbitcoin on May 24, 2019, 09:14:20 AM
It's confirm CSW is one of the govt officer, he could be part of the CIA, and he was given the order to ridiculous bitcoin so that it would be easier for the U.S. govt to control the entire market.

haha, you are going too far with the conspiracy theories. CSW is just a scammer who is playing the system to scam people and make money. for example the events of past couple of days were orchestrated to pump his shitcoin (BSV) up.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: sri.bima on May 24, 2019, 10:44:27 AM
Maybe this is one reason why the price of the Bitcoin SV rose dramatically. Craig Wright acknowledges himself as satoshi nakamoto, a little question for me is why just now Craig Wright admitted? Is it waiting for something to say this? But let it be, finally it will be a little missed who is actually satoshi. I hope this is not just for sensation. But the recognition that will bring progress that many people have been waiting for all this time.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Broly46 on May 24, 2019, 11:08:29 AM
It's confirm CSW is one of the govt officer, he could be part of the CIA, and he was given the order to ridiculous bitcoin so that it would be easier for the U.S. govt to control the entire market.

haha, you are going too far with the conspiracy theories. CSW is just a scammer who is playing the system to scam people and make money. for example the events of past couple of days were orchestrated to pump his shitcoin (BSV) up.

Wonder who's pumping the shitcoin?? Could it be the U.S. govt too and using tax payer money to do so. CSW certainly awarded the best candidate to be the puppet to the govt, and I don't think anyone else come close to him, not even Roger Vers.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Leonardo7 on May 24, 2019, 11:40:47 AM
I think there is a problem with the law recognizing Wright as Satoshi, one thing we keep asking Craig Wright to do is to prove that he's the real Satoshi by technology and not through a court that may not fully understand how bitcoin works and its independence. Maybe this is why BSV mooned but it won't last.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: naska21 on May 24, 2019, 11:54:17 AM
https://coingeek.com/bitcoin-creator-craig-s-wright-satoshi-nakamoto-granted-us-copyright-registrations-for-bitcoin-white-paper-and-code/

implications for Bitcoin?

Should he  pay taxes on all btc confined in Satoshi's addresses and  take care of various legal related processes? I think he has  got his ass abhorrently kicked.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: maxreish on May 24, 2019, 12:42:56 PM
who cares if US reconized him as satoshi

We know that his purpose is to milk every penny he can from Bitcoin.
He may now be able to start copyrighting and patenting. I really hope I'm wrong.

You're not wrong. How can IS easily recognized Craig Wright as Satoshi Nakamoto? I can't relly believe they easily believe him with his baseless proof. I think he succeeded on his plan. Making a noise in a crypto industry and in media industry, looking forward to become famous, getting the sympathy of people. Wow, he really is a pain in the a**. I just can't move on that he was the one who put in there as an author of btc's whitepaper. He don't deserve to be recognized as Nakamoto.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: Sithara007 on May 24, 2019, 12:46:42 PM
The title is wrong. He have been granted the copyright claims to the white paper, because no one challenged his claims (I think we don't have the time to spare for such frivolous claims). And also, you need to understand that an approval by the U.S. Copyright Office doesn't mean that the US government recognized CSW as Satoshi. For your information,  U.S. Copyright Office is not equal to the US govt.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: sgbett on June 14, 2019, 12:46:32 PM
The title is wrong. He have been granted the copyright claims to the white paper, because no one challenged his claims (I think we don't have the time to spare for such frivolous claims). And also, you need to understand that an approval by the U.S. Copyright Office doesn't mean that the US government recognized CSW as Satoshi. For your information,  U.S. Copyright Office is not equal to the US govt.

For *your* information im great at click-bait titles ;)

Seriously though, yes you are correct. USCO is not the entire US government. It is the official U.S. government body that maintains records of copyright registration in the United States.

So I'm glad we cleared that up. I'm all for accuracy and honesty, like any good scammer always is.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: infofront on June 14, 2019, 01:32:41 PM
It's amazing the level of proof y'all demand of CSW, and the lengths you go to hand wave away the mountain of evidence.

Evidence of what?

I find it amazing the lengths BSV shills go to while defending CSW.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: sgbett on June 14, 2019, 10:24:47 PM
It's amazing the level of proof y'all demand of CSW, and the lengths you go to hand wave away the mountain of evidence.

Evidence of what?

I find it amazing the lengths BSV shills go to while defending CSW.

I know we're a right funny bunch with our "don't trust me, go check for yourself" type attitude.

Speaking of "amazing lengths people will go to" if anyone else feels at all aggrieved by my pursuit of the truth, or even the slightest bit threatened by the notion that things might not be all they are cracked up to be with BTC. Then do stop by by my feedback page and say something bad about me.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=38978

If you can't think of anything, just cut and paste gmax's comment like Lauda did. I'm sure that all that negative feedback about my alleged scamming will soon have me toeing the party line.

And flag me for no trading please. I don't want to trade with anyone, and don't think anyone should trade anything based on what I say.

This is not financial advice. DYOR. (https://neon.planaria.network/)

WARNING: This post may contain Easter eggs.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: mayukus4life on June 14, 2019, 10:31:13 PM
I do not agree with Craig Wright being the Satoshi we all crave to know. His recognition by the US government isn't evident enough for the majority of crypto enthusiasts to believe such. I'm very confident he is and hope many won't fall for this. I await the day the real Satoshi will be revealed.


Title: Re: Craig Wright recognised by US Govt as Satoshi, author of white paper
Post by: ðºÞæ on June 15, 2019, 05:49:44 AM
I do not agree with Craig Wright being the Satoshi we all crave to know. His recognition by the US government isn't evident enough for the majority of crypto enthusiasts to believe such. I'm very confident he is and hope many won't fall for this. I await the day the real Satoshi will be revealed.

In the later part he responds to auditions question
https://youtu.be/OqpwuJw7cxY

But don't take my word i am a hard core BitCoiner and cant stand SegShit, just look at my trust. "gmaxwell" did not manage a reference, "lamtutu", real fun guy claims White paper is released with MIT license, "Branco" was not happy so he returned. Dont worry i have nothing to trade.
 
https://i.ibb.co/hMPTqgb/Untitled.png (https://ibb.co/j5cjp8m)