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Not only that he has also claimed that the he has written most of the bitcoin code. I wonder how the U.S. is giving him the copyright registrations.
Bitcoin is decentralized, how come a centralized government has the rights to declare copyrights of a decentralized currency.
It may have been filed on advice of his counsel so that a stronger defense can be presented, perhaps not because he actually wants rights. |
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having looked a little deeper than just the clickbait layer https://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=15&ti=1,15&Search_Arg=bitcoin&Search_Code=FT%2A&CNT=25&PID=nzoD_881lnuCunVeTvIfD742gwJ8&SEQ=20190521081301&SID=1seems he registered on the 11th of April 2019 and the copyright office responded by changing the records author on the 20th May 2019 because no one contested the authorship within the month. the C.O didnt do any investigation/verification and just changed it uncontested. |
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I assume he is going to use this USA copyright to get copyrights in as many countries as possible along with the massive number of patents he is also claiming. Thus he can go to various countries, win copyright, win some in court and thus be 'official Bitcoin' in those countries and try to lock out all other bitcoin from local exchanges or some other skullduggery. My 'fear' is still that he is the last man alive from what may have been the original 'satoshi group' of Hal Finney and Dave Kleiman, both of which have passed. Craig Wright claims there as a "Tulip Trust" made with the early development bitcoins (billions of $$$) that was put in a trust that is accessible on Jan 1st, 2020. IF such was the case, and IF he was part of the group as spokesman, then with that..he can play the same games to undervalue Bitcoin Core that he did when he forked off of Bitcoin Cash to Bitcoin SV. Raise a lot of hell and make a lot of $$$ for himself out of the chaos. Not as unlikely as I used to think now that the USA has given him Copyright status on the 'Bitcoin White Paper' and the original bitcoin process itself. Another concern is, this seems to cover stuff with bitcoin at the beginning before it was 'open source'. Does that mean according to US law he can now enforce the copyright against bitcoin core and bitcoin cash? What a cluster. anyway, this drama will go on for years out of court or in the court of public opinion...making Craig Wright, even if proved a fraud a lot of $$$$. |
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May 21, 2019, 05:05:19 PM |
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Curious. Does anyone think it is impossible that Wright is Satoshi?
Yes, unless he signs a message using the private keys of Satoshi Nakamoto. Meaning that if he doesn't sign, then it is impossible that he is Satoshi? No, I wouldn't say 100% that he is NOT Satoshi if he doesn't sign any message. He may have lost the keys, destroyed them or something like that. However, message signing is the only reliable way to determine whether he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto or not. In the real sense, this event does not have any significance as it is still the same - there's no proof. I could also scream on top of my voice that I am Satoshi Nakamato, but that doesn't help in any way, there's no legible proof to back my claim. |
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May 21, 2019, 05:16:11 PM
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No, I wouldn't say 100% that he is NOT Satoshi if he doesn't sign any message. He may have lost the keys, destroyed them or something like that. However, message signing is the only reliable way to determine whether he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto or not. In the real sense, this event does not have any significance as it is still the same - there's no proof. I could also scream on top of my voice that I am Satoshi Nakamato, but that doesn't help in any way, there's no legible proof to back my claim.
I suppose the real Satoshi would take it as far as possible, exhausting all other avenues for 'proof' and make it so that the only way to trust that the information is true is... using his own invention. Isn't the discovery of truth after the trials of the Hero's Journey not the ultimate 'proof of work'? IF this was the case, who would validate Satoshi's transaction? Anyone? The question would be that if Wright could actually sign the message, would we trust it? I can almost guarantee that this proof would be refuted by Bitcoin proponents. (Personally, I don't care. But I do find it curious how emotional people are getting about it, and that almost always clouds critical thinking.) And I think that would be an awesome lesson, if ever it could be so. The only limitation of a trustless system is our own unwillingness to trust it. The best trolls have the best lessons. Perhaps Craig Wright is Keyser Söze. Or maybe he's just Frank Underwood and he is enjoying the initials on his new cufflinks. |
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OP wants to be taken seriously, yet rolls out zero activity insta nuke account shit like this that can be unravelled within 0.5 seconds. My nasal hair could make the same application. It means nothing.
Weird to see people wander off into their little boxes of madness when once upon a time they were relatively together.
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Wright is now legally establishing that he is Bitcoin’s creator after being dismayed to see his original Bitcoin design bastardized by protocol developer groups—first by Bitcoin Core (BTC) in 2017 and then again by Bitcoin Cash (BCH) developers in 2018, said Wright - sympathetic news site CoinGeek. Jerry Brito, the executive director at CoinCentral, said that anyone can register a copyright with the US Copyright office, as it only involves filing a form. Since the Copyright Office doesn’t investigate the validity of the claims filed they have almost zero legal weight. Brito also pointed out that someone else could also file a copyright claim to the Bitcoin whitepaper, and the Office will just register all of them. While this will definitely invite a lawsuit from Wright, the validity of both claims would be decided by a court. However, even if Wright’s claim was found to be false it would have little consequence As Chris Harvey, a venture capital lawyer with the Harvey Esquire APC pointed out, no company has ever been prosecuted for false copyright registration, which is punishable by a fine of up to $2,500.
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May 21, 2019, 05:41:38 PM |
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Since US recognized him as the Satoshi the creator of Bitcoin, does he have the right to also file a trademark to blockchain?
This could be seen as if he owns this technology and that all other who copied are going to be illegal. It must be anther story one day but if this happen can they take down all the altcoins using blockchain technology?
The blockchain technology and the Blockchain are both differents - Blockchain is a name - blockchain (technology) is a common and countable noun Anyway, if I'm correct, the Blockchain name is already registered with blockchain.com. It's like if you register the name "Internet" it doesn't mean you invented it. |
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From what I understand a copyright registration is not the same as being a copyright holder. Yes, the U.S. government needs to hold CSW accountable, and sooner or later his time of reckoning will come. He is digging himself deeper and deeper into a hole, and taking his claim to court will put the burden on him to provide proof that he's Satoshi like he claims. |
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Wright is now legally establishing that he is Bitcoin’s creator after being dismayed to see his original Bitcoin design bastardized by protocol developer groups—first by Bitcoin Core (BTC) in 2017 and then again by Bitcoin Cash (BCH) developers in 2018, said Wright - sympathetic news site CoinGeek. Jerry Brito, the executive director at CoinCentral, said that anyone can register a copyright with the US Copyright office, as it only involves filing a form. Since the Copyright Office doesn’t investigate the validity of the claims filed they have almost zero legal weight. Brito also pointed out that someone else could also file a copyright claim to the Bitcoin whitepaper, and the Office will just register all of them. While this will definitely invite a lawsuit from Wright, the validity of both claims would be decided by a court. However, even if Wright’s claim was found to be false it would have little consequence As Chris Harvey, a venture capital lawyer with the Harvey Esquire APC pointed out, no company has ever been prosecuted for false copyright registration, which is punishable by a fine of up to $2,500.
https://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=15&ti=1,15&Search_Arg=bitcoin&Search_Code=FT%2A&CNT=25&PID=nzoD_881lnuCunVeTvIfD742gwJ8&SEQ=20190521081301&SID=1https://cryptoslate.com/bitcoin-whitepaper-software-copyrighted-craig-wright/Reportedly one of the addresses CSW claimed to own in a Florida court case (versus the Kleiman estate) has signed an authenticated message calling him a fraud. It seems he is bound to be discredited as these legal cases advance. He must be held accountable for his behavior. If he's Satoshi, he should sign a message or move the original mined bitcoins. |
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I don’t know who’s the more ridiculous here, either US Govt or the Craig Wright himself. Or both of them are equally retard. Ok, enough of US Govt crap, let’s look at what the China and North Korea has to say? Ban the bitcoin and everything and anyone who has associated, affiliated, partly or fully anticipated into it.
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May 21, 2019, 05:57:18 PM |
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But CCN say's Craig Wright is not Satoshi,  https://www.ccn.com/technical-proof-craig-wright-not-satoshi-nakamotoLol, and the drama still continues, I don't think there will be complications on bitcoin. Why he gonna do next? wipe out all the chains? I don't know why the guy is up to, but for sure he is fraud and not Satoshi, who write the original whitepaper. |
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May 21, 2019, 06:01:03 PM |
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On the plus side, if the US government did officially recognise Wright as satoshi,...
nobody has recognized him as dick, it is just that OP for some reason decide to choose this misleading title for his topic! what CW has done is just submission of a copyright which is not even accepted. and submission is not such a complicated or exclusive thing to do so anybody can do it. If he gets recognized as Satoshi it means that you no longer have to prove anything. It's a chance for all of you to seek out unclaimed works and be the first to say that it was you and you'll get copyrights. This is so stupid that I'm lost for words. How much did CW pay the author of this article because he's clearly shilling. SV is so low that even BTC going barely moves its price forward. |
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May 21, 2019, 06:05:52 PM |
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1) Change the misleading title
2) Lock this idiotic topic
3) FY CW!
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4) Everyone that believed or believes the title, you really need to go out and enjoy some fresh air, it will help your brain recover from this.
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May 21, 2019, 06:11:56 PM |
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Reportedly one of the addresses CSW claimed to own in a Florida court case (versus the Kleiman estate) has signed an authenticated message calling him a fraud. It seems he is bound to be discredited as these legal cases advance. He must be held accountable for his fraudulent claims. If he's Satoshi, he should sign a message or move the original mined bitcoins.
What about this? On 10 february Craig Wright tried to convince people that he is Satoshi Nakamoto by releasing an abstract of a research paper called "Black Net" that he supposedly wrote for the Australian government in 2001. The abstract is almost identical to the official Bitcoin whitepaper of October 2008. However, Satoshi had a draft in August 2008 of the Bitcoin whitepaper and when we compare the draft with the official Bitcoin whitepaper, we can see that the corrections made between August and October 2008 are also found in the Craig's paper from "2001". This proves again that he is a liar. https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/apc9c1/craig_wright_caught_lying_again/"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." -Joseph Goebbels Craig must love that thought. |
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implicatins, like any other copyright if he enforces it then, for example this forum must change name. Bitcoin BTC Forum.  |
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May 21, 2019, 06:35:43 PM |
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I am still strongly believes that satoshi nakamoto Javan origin . May be Craig wright might be in his team or they could work together while building bitcoin blockchain . But original satoshi nakamoto should from Japan. |
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May 21, 2019, 06:39:14 PM |
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Reportedly one of the addresses CSW claimed to own in a Florida court case (versus the Kleiman estate) has signed an authenticated message calling him a fraud. It seems he is bound to be discredited as these legal cases advance. He must be held accountable for his fraudulent claims. If he's Satoshi, he should sign a message or move the original mined bitcoins.
What about this? On 10 february Craig Wright tried to convince people that he is Satoshi Nakamoto by releasing an abstract of a research paper called "Black Net" that he supposedly wrote for the Australian government in 2001. The abstract is almost identical to the official Bitcoin whitepaper of October 2008. However, Satoshi had a draft in August 2008 of the Bitcoin whitepaper and when we compare the draft with the official Bitcoin whitepaper, we can see that the corrections made between August and October 2008 are also found in the Craig's paper from "2001". This proves again that he is a liar. https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/apc9c1/craig_wright_caught_lying_again/"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it." -Joseph Goebbels Craig must love that thought. Yes if somebody saying the same lie again and again people as well as himself starts believe that’s truth like most of people he politicians are doing I think he is fit for politics hope soon he joins politics . He can lie with the proof |
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