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I'll start with connection between bill gator (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=370611) and toy4lov3rs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=98138): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg28452206#msg28452206 (credit goes to Joel_Jantsen).

Fake Bill claimed that it is their friend's account who knew nothing:

Whole post archived: http://archive.is/yJlTX

Well, that is strange because bill gator said they bought real bill gator's account in November, 2015.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145840.0 while account Toy4lov3rs was created in 2013., and as I can see they are far away from "not knowing anything about bitcoin".

Someone who "knew nothing" wouldn't say this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1286883.msg13251679#msg13251679) in December 2015:
Archived http://archive.is/1mbxL

If You click on Joel_Jantsen's discovery, You will notice that address in question was posted later, 8 months later, in August 2016. Now Bill's excuse has even less sense.


I would say Toy4lov3rs is not their friend and they got caught. Did person behind account Toy4lov3rs used that account to purchase Bill Gator? Is Toy4lov3rs also bought account? Don't know. But I know this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1384304.msg14081705#msg14081705

He has won auction...
http://archive.is/jIuSv#selection-3712.0-3712.1

..and tried to buy more accounts...

...and more accounts..
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1456509.msg14723480#msg14723480


I'll add "just another coincidence". This is Bill's (http://archive.is/HUWIw) gap:

https://i.imgur.com/C1upAFZ.png

...and toy4lov3rs (http://archive.is/6HCQ0) gap (https://archive.is/6HCQ0#selection-2017.140-2017.143):

https://i.imgur.com/pPqxhRC.png
https://i.imgur.com/leiSLRc.png


And finally, to ask this question again, how someone "didn't know" in August 2016:


...but knew only one month before, in June? Memory lost?


They didn't know:



This small collection will serve as reference because there is not enough characters to put this in feedback. Thanks for reading.

Well this certainly isn't an extended pattern of abuse and retribution for Bill Gator speaking about about abusive behavior of those on the DT. The stack of negatives for Bill Gator while ignoring account sellers like Nutilduhh (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1622642.0) isn't enough now that he had his ban lifted, time to keep digging until you find a crime. What are your crimes?

http://archive.is/OQgc3#selection-3649.0-3649.120

Here is a scenario: What if the account was sold with the email address and the private key of the staked address which means the new owner can prove that this is the old owner. Truth is with Nutilduhh the gang has no personal issue so there are no need for tag

mighty DTs of the forum, stop double standard. You guys are not bringing any good for the forum with all these political supports for each others. If you really love the community then stop shitting with people who you don't like. Don't destroy them just because you can. @theymos I hope you are seeing all these manipulations. I believe you will soon come up with something to stop this nonsense happening in the forum. These forum is losing good members because of some selective people in power.

Bill has proven that he is a good asset for the forum. Don't just blame him for the sin he did but stay silent for others for the same mistake. You guys are pathetic DT gang.

Why Lauda was so happy when they found out bill was a bought account?

http://archive.is/tyw87#selection-4743.0-4743.353

Also look at the supports they showed giving merit to that post.

Now can anyone check Lauda's trust list?
http://archive.is/zEfWy#selection-673.0-673.6 Foxpup
http://archive.is/zEfWy#selection-679.0-679.4 TMAN
Not sure why LoyceV had to merit that.
http://archive.is/zEfWy#selection-677.0-677.7 ibminer <= not sure about this guy also although they are in Lauda's trust list.
and this guy Coolcryptovator is a complete ass licker. Some day may be the community will find that he is an alt of someone.

http://archive.is/zEfWy#selection-797.0-807.221
Although from the read it sounds funny but what if this is the truth?

Have anyone remember the red tag they (Lauda) left for aTriz sometimes in last year?
A red tag with all positive statements. (FYI, aTriz was business partner of Lauda.)

Anyway, the entire gang was waiting for something like this so that they can harass a good member of the forum because character like bill stood up against one of their loyal gang member's crazy BS activities?

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QS: this is not CH.

Obviously. They don’t even try to hide it anymore

toy4lov3rs isn't my account, so I can't explain the things they do. I'm sure that account was probably bought/sold before and after I knew the owner; I don't keep in touch with them.
I don't remember the situation where they used my address (or if it even is my address) as well as I would like, because it was randomly brought up a long time after it happened and I don't exactly remember the circumstance. I do remember it being about them wanting to join a signature campaign, and I'm 99% sure it's my address that they've wrongfully posted, but I'd have to do a bunch of digging to see if I have any record for that address to verify.

These aren't "excuses", just like my ban appeal was not an "excuse"; These are articulations of actual events.

I guess I welcome moronbozo to "gang/mafia/them". ::) /s - For the mentally degenerate.

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Tagged.

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I am sure your ban appeal wasn't excuse and you have bought account when you said you did and you didn't post that posts. Theymos confirmed it so I trust you with that.


Is my friend, isn't my friend, probably bought, probably sold...someone who bought account very likely did it with btc, but "your friend" couldn't do it because:
Someone had to buy account for them prior to signature application. These are 2 bought accounts. Account you used to buy Bill Gator is third account. Account bought by toy4lov3rs is forth account and there are probably more accounts and I don't trust single word you say.

Meriting a post does not (necessarily) mean I support it. The post has an opposite view compared to the post above it, which I also merited.

I'm not sure why you even want to know. See this:

The account owner of toys4lov3rs was a friend I knew IRL at the time of them posting the address that I also posted.
You have to actually be trying to twist the information to get here; All of this speculation is quite poor.

I'm confused about what your point even is anymore. Is the accusation that I am toys4lov3rs or are we somewhere else?

Good thing that you have added it in the bracket. In case you missed to read my post,
I was pointing those guys because they are obvious gang members and support each others. That Coolcryptovator guy, is licking the asses hard to be one of them.

Look at this OP got merit from so far: Suchmoon, TMAN, Foxpup. Did anyone notice how hard Hhampuz is trying to prove his worth to the gang? He knows he has to do it because he is running a business here, I don't blame this guy. He is a nice person though.
http://archive.is/jE88Z#selection-473.0-483.4
http://archive.is/ioHVn#selection-2769.0-2771.4

I certainly know you are not much involved with this gang. So I was wondering why you merited that topic. You must had a view which I know now.


I hope ibminer is also not a gang member they must have a genuine view like you had.

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Hello bill,
You think these people are going to buy anything that you will say/explain? You think they care about what you say?

They were waiting for this moment and they had it. They will now tear you apart with whatever they will have in their saying, they will make fun of you, insult you every time whenever they will have the chance, until you get fed up and become crazy like CH and thule or leave the forum like few other good forum members already left.

Here is my suggestion to you. Stop responding these shitheads and focus on what you are doing. You gave a lot to this forum, I hope theymos do something to stop these nonsense personal attacks/double standards and let the good forum member to have their respect back.

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By the way, do you see how the gang is giving silent pressure to other DTs?
@LFC_Bitcoin and others who have fear that they may get punished if they do not listen to these gang: A lot of people respect you (LFC) in the WO. You should not do something because someone else said to do it. Have your own opinion mate/respected forum users.

Love the forum and the community not fear for a gang in power.
#WitchHunt
Fuck sake! I had issue with someone else but why am I even talking against the gang? I guess I love this forum and can not help to take a stand when I see something that is harming the community. Sorry I could not use my main account because of the same fear. Ironic.

Yawn. You are just whiny and butthurt. I oblitared some of your shady dealings, haven't I?

https://i.imgur.com/e0vHz2x.gif

I will just do it your way and quote part of post which I want and reply to it.

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@TECSHARE if you want to talk about nutildah create thread about nutildah.

@quickseller before you decide to post another nonsense read this thread again https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5131458.msg50587315#msg50587315

@mightyDTs your gang shit theory goes here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5143685.0

@Lauda thanks boss.

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Seems Fake Bill posted some very sensitive info shared in privacy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145975.msg51184559#msg51184559

Keep this in mind when sharing information with this user.

Help us untwist it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145840.msg51159221#msg51159221

How about that? Seems like a good use for you new-found proclivity to share PMs and whatnot.

And who sold him, I mean his friend the other account. They claim person who bought account didn't know anything about btc, they had to create btc address for them, I mean, after they bought account Fake Bill Gator "walked them trough":


Mystery remains, how someone who doesn't know how to c/p application post for signature campaign and put his bitcoin address was able to buy forum account.

There is a bit of a mdayonliner vibe to the whole "mentoring friends" thing. No, I'm not implying this is mday's alt LOL.

It's going to be the same people criticizing me for releasing PMs that are testimony of DT-intimidation/manipulation and abuse that are going to encourage me to drag legendary, reputable users including an escrow through the mud by releasing PMs.

Again Yawn, Fawn attitude? LOL

You exposed yourself here red handed.
I never had any response however you felt to post this (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5143602.msg51074625#msg51074625).

You really think I am whiny and butthurt? Get a life.
I quote:


No you haven't dare to pull none of my hair from the bottom part in my real account. Like I said I have issue with someone else, not you but your recent nonsense  pissed me off. You are doing too much since the new DT system introduced.

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You don't tell me what to do. Mind your own business.

Oh now you are concerned about this but you had fun when Vod doxxed OG. Right?

Don't advice or suggest others something where you really do not have any clue what you have done for the worse act.
Fucking shithead.

Personally I don't really give a fuck about account sales as long as they aren't used to rob people. I can't say I give much of a fuck about Nutilduhh either. I do however give a fuck about pointing out the double standards that everyone who marked Bill Gator red but refuses to mark Nutilduhh red because they have the brown mark of protection on their nose. All of you preach about how what you are doing is for the forum. This is a lie, serving the forum is just a pretext you use to control it like a pathetic obsessive compulsive nerd mafia, and inconsistencies such as these prove it.

You wouldn't lie when you said that you will publicly share some info in that ban appeal thread, wouldn't you, EthanB?

What else you are not telling us, EthanB?

This (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=556167) ???

Finally someone who stands up and speaks the truth against these dickheads which have made this forum a total mess. Thumbs up for standing up and speaking against this communist lobby of bullshit propaganda which has taken this forum to the worst possible level yet because it will become worse as long as someone who is clearly accused and accepted extortion like Lauda , TMAN and others are on DT not giving a fuck about the forum but only thinking about their personal gains.

Fake Bill will tell us about it. I mean, I will post it anyway.

I can confidently say that they already started to look back TECSHARE's history to find something to remove from DT network and also to tag. I hope this fella stay safe.

Hey moron, stop using this insulting nonsense. Your parents did not take you to school to learn manners or they could not afford to educate you.

Bill built this account all the way to till now. So if there is a Bill then he is the actual Bill not the one who sold it to him.

Edit
LOL how long we have to go to establish that there is a GANG? Sorry no more red tag needed to prove it.

I am sorry I did not have the balls to post all these from my main account but if community demands then in some point I may expose my real account. Honestly speaking I don't care that much except a little. My be that F**ked up Lauda will know then that me and her did not have any butthurt event to tag me.

I doubt that but it can happen, TECSHARE reputation is in Computer Hardware he is a great seller and has contributed much more to the forum than these dickheads who are in power now, if they do this will only show that this is indeed a gang and will go miles in length to discredit everyone who disagrees with them.

He's a whiny political troll, it's easier to ignore him. Not worth reading his shitposting.  ;)

Waiting.

Hey listen, instead of talking shit just ignore me if you wish to. You don't need to tell the board what to do. Am I talking too much truth about you?

I am shitposting or providing valid points?
Told you, you ate your brain now don't push it too hard to prove that you have a brain left.

Are you saying you are TECHSHARE or is your brain just damaged?

I have been speaking out about this kind of behavior for a long time (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5109647.0). They have actively been harassing me for years and use any opportunity to take retribution for my insolence of speaking out about them. The only reason this has become so openly discussed now is because they increasingly get more extreme and blatant about their abusive behavior as time passes and their victims begin collecting and speaking out.

It's not explainable to a brainless animal.

You don't even know which one is you.
FYI none of these has brain by the way.

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Has anyone notice the custom title? Is she back to staff or this kind of position to have her own custom title?
https://i.imgur.com/FGFBWmD.png

And ironically they would all be able to articulate an argument better than you have done!

May be you have failed to see the good side my friend.

Seems Miss. Bitcoin Supremo can't stay on topic.

@mightyDT's should we all create as much as we can sockpuppets to make our opinion sound stronger? Please. You are smarter than that.

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First of all, credit to this finding goes to person who doesn't want to reveal themselves. Well, I can't blame them, Bill likes to share sensitive PM info.

This is wallet https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/20a5013688c97d83/addresses

Addresses which are part of this wallet:

Fake Bill posted this:


Here:

EthanB posted this:

And signed message from this address:

Why EthanB assumed address is compromised?


Where is Bill Gator to explain why probably Fake EthanB thinks that?

Seems the gay marlboroza don't like when the truth is exposed against him and his friends , you fucking little disgusting piece of shit. Stfu if you have nothing constructive to say you little dickhead.

Is it just me or Bitcoin Supremo is extremely excited by this thread, especially when Ethan B was mentioned?
Eh, it is probably in my mind.  :)

I actually have but I can't. Previous post was already constructive enough.

Who thought up that thread title for moronbozo. No way he came up with something like that by himself.

Remember though MB to tie 2 accounts together conclusively you require video evidence like yours and zorrobek ... anything less is speculation.

I feel when you do not know the "exact events"  then it means you are hiding some events. In normal scenario any user can/will be tagged for confessing account buying. You are not victim here but those guys are fortunate who are not tagged despite of selling/buying account.

The wordsmith multi accounter, with his style and passion for writing it does make me wonder how many other accounts he has enrolled in campaigns. If he is retired I imagine he is making a decent side income with 20+ accounts earning 0.3BTC plus a week.

1. So? Bill Gator openly admitted he bought the account himself, he wasn't caught doing something shady by a 3rd party.
2. Yes, and we are forced to take your word for this aren't we?
3. See number 2.

Your "proof" is nothing of the sort. If in fact your account was sold there is absolutely no reason all of this additional information could not be transferred along with it. I see, forgiveness for thee, but not for Bill Gator in this case eh? Thanks for demonstrating the hypocrisy of tagging Bill and not you even more completely. Keep that brown on your nose, its good luck.

But the general standard is Account buyers/sellers are not to be trusted.
Wondering how the hell it is different in your case.
Though I'm not going to digging much now, I know you still are an account trader.

Again, all we have is your word. There is literally no way for you to prove you haven't transferred your account. This has nothing to do with a grudge, this is a simple fact. If your account had been sold, the new owner would have plenty of incentive to cover up this fact and would want to pretend the transfer never happened now wouldn't they? You trying to sell it under your own name was just dumb, not proof of innocence. This is all besides the point anyway, the point being you get a pass because you suck all the right dicks, Bill Gator slaps the dicks away and he gets red marks.

LOL I will keep handing you shovels. Keep smashing through that hard layer of rocks  hahah

Look Notildah. Let me explain it to you again.

There is a GIANT difference when you are talking about TRUST. It comes down to intent. That is the most important thing here with account sales.

This post (if it is true) looks even worse on your part.

So here you are https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134507.msg50719875#msg50719875

a/ fully convinced that people should have red trust for selling their account because it facilitates scamming
b/ going as far as calling people EVIL that sell their accounts, going to make a list of EVIL people were you who sold their accounts.

So not only are you fully intending to facilitate scamming, you are knowingly acting in an evil manner.

Also you are now saying you never stopped wanting to facilitate scams or being evil IT WAS ONLY YOU COULD NOT FIND A BUYER?

So you didn't even have a change of heart ? you just could not dupe anyone into buying your crappy account haha

Bill gator on the other hand likely never intended to facilitate or scam or be EVIL at all.  Who would I trust more knowing the different intentions here??  That is the GIANT difference.

Also are you now telling us you were given MILLIONS of dollars as a NEM stake holder and now need to beg for 0.02BTC loans recently?? what happen you EVIL bastard? child sacrifices not coming cheap these days or something lol  ? so a NEM stake holder and holding a bag of dash before and NOW are flat out broke begging for btc dust loans??  who says being evil does not pay lol.  Or did nutildah not include those in the account sale to some broke bum that spent out his only 0.3btc buying that damaged account. He booby trapped it with anti account sales posts before unloading it ...evil bastard.

EVIL, scam facilitating loser.

Not that I have too much higher opinion of bill anyway. He only cares about this "red trust abuse" now he got painted red. Unlike a true legend that defends others and noobs that were getting picked on that had nothing to do with him. Piece of dirt was siding against the true legend and now it has come fully circle on him. Too bad.

Fake Notildahs in circulation does not have the same ring to it though for sure.

Moronbozo was called a gutter rat sig spammer by U2 when he busted him sig spamming from his zorrobeck account anyway, so not entirely sure why he now is worried how many accounts bill gator has. I don't think ANY of them should be in a position of trust.  

Allow me to politely say that you are incorrect. Innocuous things happen daily that you will not remember down the road.


I find it so strange when people talk about things they have no idea about.
The "original owner" and the "professional account seller" are the same person.


If you want the honest answer, 0, but I'm sure you would rather formulate a wild conspiracy.


TMAN, for old-times sake would you be willing to describe who I am in your head? I'd like to know how deep you think the rabbit hole goes.


EthanB is my handmade account, never bought or sold. bill gator and EthanB are the only two accounts I own. To put it in bozo's terms: Fake bill = Real EthanB.


The problem is that almost every single person that has tagged me for buying bill gator have refused to tag nutildah (you) for attempting to sell a legendary account, with trust long after my "offense". They are refusing to treat iluvbitcoins case, blazed, even marlboroza's with the same principles. These "others" feel however is most convenient and try to wrap it up in concepts they will throwaway and belittle when the next situation arises.

Without having a consistent criteria for tagging these accounts we'll just keep running in circles of no accountability until the hypocrisy is even more egregious.  
If the rule was that anyone involved in account buying/selling ever is to be tagged by at least half a dozen DT, then I wouldn't have anything to say.

Well, it's not about conspiracy.
It's just about having a very very hard time to believe what you post.
About your former DT1 position, I have excluded you from my trust list because after shedding light on some events, I don't trust your judgement and actions anymore and believe you are not DT material.

This is maybe stupid, but when I read one of your latest posts, I unconsciously apply negation to it and tend to stick to this version.
I do not share my thoughts because I know that there is nothing backing them, but its been a lot of things discovered these last days !!
I'm expecting, what else will come out ?

So many things have been dig up that if there is some truth somewhere, it is very far of what you say.
If by any chance you tell the truth, you need to understand that facts make it very hard to take your words seriously.

Once bitten, twice shy.

I was honestly trying to remove myself from the drama.

Bill, the difference between you and me is you bought your account, and I didn't. We do not fall in the same category there.

Did you honestly believe nobody was going to tag you the moment you said you bought your account? Really you should be thankful for being the recipient of a special theymos intervention that has apparently allowed you to remain in your signature campaign.

Theymos' decision is the first of its kind I've ever seen, so consider yourself lucky to be part of special treatment enjoyed by less that 0.1% of the forum.

That's fair, you're entitled to your opinion, but I don't believe that your trust feedback is appropriate nor consistent. The poster directly below yours fits the criteria for which you've left me negative trust, but you have failed to leave them negative trust.


You're not the only person doing this, and I wouldn't call you stupid for doing so; you'd be wrong, but wrong and stupid are different things.


What I've been saying isn't a fairy-tale that I've concocted, but I understand if you are weary of previous omission.
I just wouldn't distrust the things I am saying, because of the things I didn't say.


Which truth has been very far from what I'm saying? I'm being open.


That would be much easier to do than you're making it, if that was your goal.


There's differences in every case, if you want to play this "better or worse" game, at least I wasn't involving myself in the account sale(s) of a legendary account with trust associated with it. Selling your reputation is much more devious, you're right we don't fall in the same category; you are sitting in a much dirtier boat.

Now let's act like you disagree with that, I know you do, so do you think those differences are relevant in terms of feedback like this? :


That one is on there twice ^


Here's another one from the guy that posted directly above you.


Does their feedback not apply to your situation because you were unsuccessful?


No. I'll say that the amount of tags, and the profound hypocrisy of some of them is surprising, though.


"Should be", as if to say I am not thankful for a busy man to take time out of their life to look into this stupid shit. The first thing I did was say "Thank you" to theymos.

@Bill

I didn't tag you because you have alt accounts, I don't see you cheated sig. I tagged you because you are account buyer and liar....latest discovery, judging neutral feedbacks you have on EthanB account, trust farmer. I didn't made these connections - someone else did. I posted them. Don't blame me for people being scared to post things about you because of recent events with sensitive PM.

@CH
You are lying.

And what is this lie with video evidence you are shitting around forum? Are you unable to read that post? Where did I say it isn't my account?

Stop spamming lies and shitposting.