"Fake Bills In Circulation"

[marlboroza]

I'll start with connection between bill gator and toy4lov3rs: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg28452206#msg28452206 (credit goes to Joel_Jantsen).

Fake Bill claimed that it is their friend's account who knew nothing:

Toy4lov3rs is one of my clueless IRL friends. The only IRL friend I know of that has an account on the forum, in fact (unfortunately). It's a shame that I feel I have to explain this. They know nothing of Bitcoin, and next to nothing about the forum. I got them to read about a dozen stickies, on a newly created account, but I don't remember the username of that account and it's probably still a 0-post newbie. They very seldom log into their account and have no interest in the forum.

They were wanting to apply for a campaign and told me they were confused. After I explained to them that they would be denied for the quality of their posts, they proceeded to use the template I provided as an example for their actual application, which had my address on it. If memory serves, I had created that address specifically while walking them through how to create an address on Core to replace the address within the "template".
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Whole post archived: http://archive.is/yJlTX

Well, that is strange because bill gator said they bought real bill gator's account in November, 2015.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145840.0 while account Toy4lov3rs was created in 2013., and as I can see they are far away from "not knowing anything about bitcoin".

Someone who "knew nothing" wouldn't say this in December 2015:

I did not check when all these accounts was created, if you are right then it does smell a bit fishy but also, keep in mind that with the recent price rise in bitcoin the forum is probably going to get flooded with new accounts and new people only coming into bitcoin now. Get you btc ready because there will be many new money making opportunities for us ol timers.

Archived http://archive.is/1mbxL

If You click on Joel_Jantsen's discovery, You will notice that address in question was posted later, 8 months later, in August 2016. Now Bill's excuse has even less sense.


I would say Toy4lov3rs is not their friend and they got caught. Did person behind account Toy4lov3rs used that account to purchase Bill Gator? Is Toy4lov3rs also bought account? Don't know. But I know this:

0.16

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1384304.msg14081705#msg14081705

He has won auction...

0.16 is the winning bid so far. Just 1 hour and 30 minutes until the end of the auction.

Don't miss a bargain account that could possibly post all the way to Legendary, at least a very high rank Hero 790+ activity.

http://archive.is/jIuSv#selection-3712.0-3712.1

..and tried to buy more accounts...

Account age doesn't maters but account rank does
I can give you 0.003 for this account if you able to sign message

...and more accounts..

I bid 0.025

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1456509.msg14723480#msg14723480


I'll add "just another coincidence". This is Bill's gap:



...and toy4lov3rs gap:





And finally, to ask this question again, how someone "didn't know" in August 2016:

Re: SafeDICE Signature Campaign - - - Earn up to 0.025 BTC per week - - - [OPEN]
August 02, 2016, 08:20:33 PM
   
 +Merit  #69
Name: toy4lov3rs
Post count: 312
Rank: Sr. Member
Bitcoin address: 1KZ6qNa4DDQL1C9eneVaZ27wNHLN5oSFJc
Profile UID: 98138

...but knew only one month before, in June? Memory lost?

Joining

Name: toy4lov3rs
Rank: Sr member
BTC address: 1BpzXeeu3JRotY2qbTexgpEC1duCpGjrNn
post count: 302

They didn't know:

They were wanting to apply for a campaign and told me they were confused. After I explained to them that they would be denied for the quality of their posts, they proceeded to use the template I provided as an example for their actual application, which had my address on it.

This small collection will serve as reference because there is not enough characters to put this in feedback. Thanks for reading.

[TECSHARE]

Well this certainly isn't an extended pattern of abuse and retribution for Bill Gator speaking about about abusive behavior of those on the DT. The stack of negatives for Bill Gator while ignoring account sellers like Nutilduhh isn't enough now that he had his ban lifted, time to keep digging until you find a crime. What are your crimes?

[mightyDTs]

Well this certainly isn't an extended pattern of abuse and retribution for Bill Gator speaking about about abusive behavior of those on the DT. The stack of negatives for Bill Gator while ignoring account sellers like Nutilduhh isn't enough now that he had his ban lifted, time to keep digging until you find a crime. What are your crimes?

You're right, I didn't, and for everybody's future reference the account is no longer for sale. I've decided to keep it.

http://archive.is/OQgc3#selection-3649.0-3649.120

Here is a scenario: What if the account was sold with the email address and the private key of the staked address which means the new owner can prove that this is the old owner. Truth is with Nutilduhh the gang has no personal issue so there are no need for tag

mighty DTs of the forum, stop double standard. You guys are not bringing any good for the forum with all these political supports for each others. If you really love the community then stop shitting with people who you don't like. Don't destroy them just because you can. @theymos I hope you are seeing all these manipulations. I believe you will soon come up with something to stop this nonsense happening in the forum. These forum is losing good members because of some selective people in power.

Bill has proven that he is a good asset for the forum. Don't just blame him for the sin he did but stay silent for others for the same mistake. You guys are pathetic DT gang.

Why Lauda was so happy when they found out bill was a bought account?

I don't care what year it was when you come at me with bullshit in order to create a false defense for your past actions. This is a play out of the CH-book, and I won't let it slip. If anyone counters, I'll counter the counter: Say no to account dealers. To make matters worse, it was bought primarily for shitposting which he has been doing. No thanks.

http://archive.is/tyw87#selection-4743.0-4743.353

Also look at the supports they showed giving merit to that post.

Now can anyone check Lauda's trust list?
http://archive.is/zEfWy#selection-673.0-673.6 Foxpup
http://archive.is/zEfWy#selection-679.0-679.4 TMAN
Not sure why LoyceV had to merit that.
http://archive.is/zEfWy#selection-677.0-677.7 ibminer <= not sure about this guy also although they are in Lauda's trust list.
and this guy Coolcryptovator is a complete ass licker. Some day may be the community will find that he is an alt of someone.

http://archive.is/zEfWy#selection-797.0-807.221

Official way to worship me:

The Queen of Cats guides us. The Queen of Cats teaches us. The Queen of Cats protects us. In your light we thrive. In your mercy we are sheltered. In your wisdom we are humbled. We live only to serve. Our lives are yours.

Although from the read it sounds funny but what if this is the truth?

Have anyone remember the red tag they (Lauda) left for aTriz sometimes in last year?
A red tag with all positive statements. (FYI, aTriz was business partner of Lauda.)

Anyway, the entire gang was waiting for something like this so that they can harass a good member of the forum because character like bill stood up against one of their loyal gang member's crazy BS activities?

QS: this is not CH.

[Quickseller]

Well this certainly isn't an extended pattern of abuse and retribution for Bill Gator speaking about about abusive behavior of those on the DT. The stack of negatives for Bill Gator while ignoring account sellers like Nutilduhh isn't enough now that he had his ban lifted, time to keep digging until you find a crime. What are your crimes?

Obviously. They don’t even try to hide it anymore

[bill gator]

toy4lov3rs isn't my account, so I can't explain the things they do. I'm sure that account was probably bought/sold before and after I knew the owner; I don't keep in touch with them.
I don't remember the situation where they used my address (or if it even is my address) as well as I would like, because it was randomly brought up a long time after it happened and I don't exactly remember the circumstance. I do remember it being about them wanting to join a signature campaign, and I'm 99% sure it's my address that they've wrongfully posted, but I'd have to do a bunch of digging to see if I have any record for that address to verify.

These aren't "excuses", just like my ban appeal was not an "excuse"; These are articulations of actual events.

[Lauda]

I guess I welcome moronbozo to "gang/mafia/them". /s - For the mentally degenerate.
Tagged.

[marlboroza]

I don't remember the situation where they used my address (or if it even is my address)

Name: toy4lov3rs [...]
Bitcoin address: 1KZ6qNa4DDQL1C9eneVaZ27wNHLN5oSFJc

Username: bill gator [...]
BTC address: 1KZ6qNa4DDQL1C9eneVaZ27wNHLN5oSFJc

I don't exactly remember the circumstance.

They were wanting to apply for a campaign and told me they were confused. After I explained to them that they would be denied for the quality of their posts, they proceeded to use the template I provided as an example for their actual application, which had my address on it. If memory serves, I had created that address specifically while walking them through how to create an address on Core to replace the address within the "template".

These aren't "excuses", just like my ban appeal was not an "excuse"; These are articulations of actual events.

I am sure your ban appeal wasn't excuse and you have bought account when you said you did and you didn't post that posts. Theymos confirmed it so I trust you with that.

Toy4lov3rs is one of my clueless IRL friends. The only IRL friend I know of that has an account on the forum

I'm sure that account was probably bought/sold before and after I knew the owner; I don't keep in touch with them.

Is my friend, isn't my friend, probably bought, probably sold...someone who bought account very likely did it with btc, but "your friend" couldn't do it because:

If memory serves, I had created that address specifically while walking them through how to create an address on Core to replace the address within the "template".

Someone had to buy account for them prior to signature application. These are 2 bought accounts. Account you used to buy Bill Gator is third account. Account bought by toy4lov3rs is forth account and there are probably more accounts and I don't trust single word you say.

[LoyceV]

http://archive.is/tyw87#selection-4743.0-4743.353

Also look at the supports they showed giving merit to that post.
~snip
Not sure why LoyceV had to merit that.

Meriting a post does not (necessarily) mean I support it. The post has an opposite view compared to the post above it, which I also merited.

I'm not sure why you even want to know. See this:

You don't need to stress about it or defend yourself constantly.

[bill gator]

Is my friend, isn't my friend, probably bought, probably sold...someone who bought account very likely did it with btc

The account owner of toys4lov3rs was a friend I knew IRL at the time of them posting the address that I also posted.
You have to actually be trying to twist the information to get here; All of this speculation is quite poor.

I'm confused about what your point even is anymore. Is the accusation that I am toys4lov3rs or are we somewhere else?

[mightyDTs]

Meriting a post does not (necessarily) mean I support it. The post has an opposite view compared to the post above it, which I also merited.

Good thing that you have added it in the bracket. In case you missed to read my post,

Not sure why LoyceV had to merit that.

I was pointing those guys because they are obvious gang members and support each others. That Coolcryptovator guy, is licking the asses hard to be one of them.

Look at this OP got merit from so far: Suchmoon, TMAN, Foxpup. Did anyone notice how hard Hhampuz is trying to prove his worth to the gang? He knows he has to do it because he is running a business here, I don't blame this guy. He is a nice person though.
http://archive.is/jE88Z#selection-473.0-483.4
http://archive.is/ioHVn#selection-2769.0-2771.4

I certainly know you are not much involved with this gang. So I was wondering why you merited that topic. You must had a view which I know now.

I'm not sure why you even want to know.

I hope ibminer is also not a gang member they must have a genuine view like you had.

I'm confused about what your point even is anymore. Is the accusation that I am toys4lov3rs or are we somewhere else?

I don't trust single word you say.

Hello bill,
You think these people are going to buy anything that you will say/explain? You think they care about what you say?

They were waiting for this moment and they had it. They will now tear you apart with whatever they will have in their saying, they will make fun of you, insult you every time whenever they will have the chance, until you get fed up and become crazy like CH and thule or leave the forum like few other good forum members already left.

Here is my suggestion to you. Stop responding these shitheads and focus on what you are doing. You gave a lot to this forum, I hope theymos do something to stop these nonsense personal attacks/double standards and let the good forum member to have their respect back.

By the way, do you see how the gang is giving silent pressure to other DTs?

bill, I feel like a right ass hole but Lauda messaged me ... about you. She told me I should remove you from my trust list. I really didn’t want to do it because I do like you (a lot).

For my own comfort & to make my life easier I did it. I don’t want to get on the wrong side of them.

I am really sorry & I feel a dick for doing it. I had to tell you myself though before you see it yourself.

I hope you can forgive me.

LFC

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145975.msg51184559#msg51184559

@LFC_Bitcoin and others who have fear that they may get punished if they do not listen to these gang: A lot of people respect you (LFC) in the WO. You should not do something because someone else said to do it. Have your own opinion mate/respected forum users.

Love the forum and the community not fear for a gang in power.
#WitchHunt
Fuck sake! I had issue with someone else but why am I even talking against the gang? I guess I love this forum and can not help to take a stand when I see something that is harming the community. Sorry I could not use my main account because of the same fear. Ironic.

[Lauda]

Fuck sake! I had issue with someone else but why am I even talking against the gang? I guess I love this forum and can not help to take a stand when I see something that is harming the community. Sorry I could not use my main account because of the same fear. Ironic.

Yawn. You are just whiny and butthurt. I oblitared some of your shady dealings, haven't I?

[marlboroza]

I will just do it your way and quote part of post which I want and reply to it.
@TECSHARE if you want to talk about nutildah create thread about nutildah.

@quickseller before you decide to post another nonsense read this thread again https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5131458.msg50587315#msg50587315

@mightyDTs your gang shit theory goes here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5143685.0

@Lauda thanks boss.
Seems Fake Bill posted some very sensitive info shared in privacy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145975.msg51184559#msg51184559

Keep this in mind when sharing information with this user.

[suchmoon]

You have to actually be trying to twist the information to get here; All of this speculation is quite poor.

Help us untwist it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145840.msg51159221#msg51159221

you owe it to the community to disclose who sold you an account farmed via plagiarism

How about that? Seems like a good use for you new-found proclivity to share PMs and whatnot.

[marlboroza]

You have to actually be trying to twist the information to get here; All of this speculation is quite poor.

Help us untwist it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145840.msg51159221#msg51159221

you owe it to the community to disclose who sold you an account farmed via plagiarism

How about that? Seems like a good use for you new-found proclivity to share PMs and whatnot.

And who sold him, I mean his friend the other account. They claim person who bought account didn't know anything about btc, they had to create btc address for them, I mean, after they bought account Fake Bill Gator "walked them trough":

while walking them through how to create an address on Core

Mystery remains, how someone who doesn't know how to c/p application post for signature campaign and put his bitcoin address was able to buy forum account.

[suchmoon]

Mystery remains, how someone who doesn't know how to c/p application post for signature campaign and put his bitcoin address was able to buy forum account.

There is a bit of a mdayonliner vibe to the whole "mentoring friends" thing. No, I'm not implying this is mday's alt LOL.

[bill gator]

How about that? Seems like a good use for you new-found proclivity to share PMs and whatnot.

It's going to be the same people criticizing me for releasing PMs that are testimony of DT-intimidation/manipulation and abuse that are going to encourage me to drag legendary, reputable users including an escrow through the mud by releasing PMs.

[mightyDTs]

Yawn.

Again Yawn, Fawn attitude? LOL

You exposed yourself here red handed.

Gotcha red handed you red trust queen LOL
So you think you are one of the member of this manipulative DT network group? Or I don't see any other reason for your Yawn, Fawn attitude.

I never had any response however you felt to post this.

You are just whiny and butthurt.  

You really think I am whiny and butthurt? Get a life.
I quote:

You really ate your brain fella.

You think it's fucking bullshit? or you are ignoring truths?
Have you ate your brain that you can not see those 4 member were down from the DT network?
Yeah, sadly I see you ate your brain.

I oblitared some of your shady dealings, haven't I?

No you haven't dare to pull none of my hair from the bottom part in my real account. Like I said I have issue with someone else, not you but your recent nonsense  pissed me off. You are doing too much since the new DT system introduced.

@mightyDTs your gang shit theory goes here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5143685.0

You don't tell me what to do. Mind your own business.

Seems Fake Bill posted some very sensitive info shared in privacy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145975.msg51184559#msg51184559

Oh now you are concerned about this but you had fun when Vod doxxed OG. Right?

Keep this in mind when sharing information with this user.

Don't advice or suggest others something where you really do not have any clue what you have done for the worse act.
Fucking shithead.

[TECSHARE]

@TECSHARE if you want to talk about nutildah create thread about nutildah.

Personally I don't really give a fuck about account sales as long as they aren't used to rob people. I can't say I give much of a fuck about Nutilduhh either. I do however give a fuck about pointing out the double standards that everyone who marked Bill Gator red but refuses to mark Nutilduhh red because they have the brown mark of protection on their nose. All of you preach about how what you are doing is for the forum. This is a lie, serving the forum is just a pretext you use to control it like a pathetic obsessive compulsive nerd mafia, and inconsistencies such as these prove it.

[marlboroza]

How about that? Seems like a good use for you new-found proclivity to share PMs and whatnot.

It's going to be the same people criticizing me for releasing PMs that are testimony of DT-intimidation/manipulation and abuse that are going to encourage me to drag legendary, reputable users including an escrow through the mud by releasing PMs.

You wouldn't lie when you said that you will publicly share some info in that ban appeal thread, wouldn't you, EthanB?

What else you are not telling us, EthanB?

[Lauda]

How about that? Seems like a good use for you new-found proclivity to share PMs and whatnot.

It's going to be the same people criticizing me for releasing PMs that are testimony of DT-intimidation/manipulation and abuse that are going to encourage me to drag legendary, reputable users including an escrow through the mud by releasing PMs.

You wouldn't lie when you said that you will publicly share some info in that ban appeal thread, wouldn't you, EthanB?

What else you are not telling us, EthanB?

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