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Title: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: PassThePopcorn on May 29, 2019, 07:12:21 PM So a quick little review of the A1041.
Physical Dimensions: Height: 11.5in Width: 7.5in with PSU PSU width: 2.25in Depth: 7.5in Without Fan: ~6in (depth without fan) The login and dashboard pages are slightly different than the previous generations. And by slightly I mean very. But it is very intuitive. Hashrate: 125 Displayed Average: 31.4 TH (60min) Pool Average: 35TH (10min) | 27TH (60min) 97 Displayed Average: 31.8 TH (60min) Pool Average: 33TH (10min) | 32TH (60min) Power Draw: 240 3 phase** 2000-2200W @ 125F 1900-2000W @ 97F **The operating environment is above 40C which will account for the increase in power from advertised specs. The miner will be moved around to be tested at different temperatures including manufacturer recommended 25-35C. Some small issues: When changing the pool there only seems to be an apply option and nothing to reset/restart cgminer. After entering in the new pool you need to reboot the miner. Pictures: Login: https://i.imgur.com/ggwxdeG.png (https://i.imgur.com/ggwxdeG.png) Dashboard: https://i.imgur.com/kJa9Rfz.png (https://i.imgur.com/kJa9Rfz.png) Log: https://i.imgur.com/EeAKu5e.png (https://i.imgur.com/EeAKu5e.png) Pool Config: https://i.imgur.com/Nb5uOI5.png (https://i.imgur.com/Nb5uOI5.png) Network: https://i.imgur.com/Whsi295.png (https://i.imgur.com/Whsi295.png) Admin: https://i.imgur.com/hG2JgXV.png (https://i.imgur.com/hG2JgXV.png) Front: https://i.imgur.com/V4W4zaL.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/V4W4zaL.jpg) PSU Side: https://i.imgur.com/YSzMS6H.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/YSzMS6H.jpg) Popin back in. Got a few more in today with the bigger PSU. The bigger PSU does not mount onto the A10, it might just be a development / prototype. Had a small issue with the first one that was setup it seems to be reporting two bad hashboards, but the second one out of the box seems to work fine. It is daisy chained to the first one in the OP running two different firmware's and they seem to be getting along fine. From the looks of it the controllers just pass through, I'll need to check on the next one that gets setup but it looked like it won't work with DHCP and I had to set them to static because the default dns wasn't replying. So far I'm liking them, my only real complaint is having to login so much as it keeps kicking me out of the ui. Now I'll reiterate that these numbers are in extreme temps but in the short term it looks like in turbo mode: Poolside - 38-40TH/s UI - 35 TH/s Power Consumption ~ 2.7-2.9kw Power consumption in turbo is also a calculated estimate as the original A10 is running on the same meter, I'll split it off at some point and get a reading on just the turbo mode. Notes: Software - This version of the software is not final and is still being developed, anything software related may change at any time. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Post by: PassThePopcorn on May 29, 2019, 07:12:47 PM Any questions or requests?
Looking good. What's the sound like? I haven't been keeping up on the Avalons is this the version that doesn't require a controller? Sound is very similar to the 851, I don't have it segregated but if I had to guess it is just a bit less than the hum of the 851's. Decibel meter reads between 68-75 but there are other machines and large fans also in the background. So I take it that for folks who ordered early the A10's have started shipping? Not to my knowledge, a distributor sent this one for testing. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: Steamtyme on May 29, 2019, 07:17:54 PM Looking good. What's the sound like? I haven't been keeping up on the Avalons is this the version that doesn't require a controller?
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on May 29, 2019, 07:19:55 PM So I take it that for folks who ordered early the A10's have started shipping?
And it's running at 109F per yer sshot? Woof! Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: PassThePopcorn on May 29, 2019, 07:41:02 PM And it's running at 109F per yer sshot? Woof! Got it hovering at a nice 118 ;) seeing what it can handle and how it handles it. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: taserz on May 29, 2019, 08:28:43 PM "Welecom" - noun
1. an instance or manner of greeting someone. Often spelled Welcome in the non crypto space. "you will receive a warm welecom when your miner over heats" Not to my knowledge, a distributor sent this one for testing. This distributor trying to send another for testing. I am thinking Taserz 24 hour mining in my basement then Taserz 24h mining outside in the heat then Taserz 24h mining in the freezer. Followed by Taserz 2.4 minutes deep cleaning with a paint brush. Followed by taserz 24 minutes write up. But I just want to buy one and get it like now :) Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Post by: PassThePopcorn on May 29, 2019, 08:40:19 PM I lol'd a bit at the welecom.
The distributor deals with medium-large customers, if anyone is looking for 50+ shoot me a PM and I'll get you their contact info. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: HagssFIN on May 29, 2019, 09:20:56 PM Thanks for the report,
cool to see one of these in the wild already. :) Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on May 30, 2019, 01:22:50 AM Ja though of course Kano has been seeing them on his pool for over a month as that's where Canaan does the burn-in testing. Assuming that 109-118F is chip temp gotta say I'm impressed. What's the measured power draw?
Can't wait for the one I ordered a couple weeks ago to ship in July :D Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: PassThePopcorn on May 30, 2019, 01:35:39 AM Pretty sure he means one is out of the factory / testing area and is actually in someone's hands.
Measured power draw is in the OP about 2kW but it should be noted that this is due to the heat, the miner itself is right around 31TH on the pool and goes between 30-32. The miner is doing everything to stay at the target hashrate even in the extreme temperatures / power draw increase is being caused by the loss of efficiency due to the heat. *Based on the temps and power draw it is right around par with what occurred in testing except I think in their video they only went up to ~40C. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on May 30, 2019, 04:49:34 PM My question is does the psu label read 12.33 volts at 150 amps?
as that would be 1849.50 watts your watt readings were higher. 2000-2200 at 125f 1900-2000 at 97f both exceed that label unless I read it wrong and it reads 12.33 volts at 180 amps which makes a lot more sense as that would be 2215 watts While we don't need 50 units I may want 10-17 units so if someothers want 10-20 usa based maybe 3-5 people could get a 50 pack. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: mgoz on May 30, 2019, 05:24:26 PM My question is does the psu label read 12.33 volts at 150 amps? 12.35 volts and 150 amps is what the sticker says, however it supposedly can adjust in real-time between 12-14.5V and model number suggests it's rated for 2100 watts. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on May 30, 2019, 06:17:09 PM okay 2100 works fine.
as 14.5 x 150 = 2175 watts. so popcorn is pushing gear hard in a hot room and so far it holds up. that's cool (pun intended). Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: minefarmbuy on May 30, 2019, 11:50:04 PM I think the first batch shipping is slated July, next batch available is in August. Demo's are live in the wild obviously.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: PassThePopcorn on June 04, 2019, 03:10:58 PM okay 2100 works fine. as 14.5 x 150 = 2175 watts. so popcorn is pushing gear hard in a hot room and so far it holds up. that's cool (pun intended). Yes sir, it still held up all weekend averaging 30.5-32th/s in +110F temps. The 97F was in an AC'd room however it had poor airflow so I think the area around the miner just warmed up. 12.35 volts and 150 amps is what the sticker says, however it supposedly can adjust in real-time between 12-14.5V and model number suggests it's rated for 2100 watts. I believe this it is the PSU supplied by Avalon and I was told it auto adjusted, this is the standard miner so no turbo mode. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: Steamtyme on June 05, 2019, 09:35:30 PM I finally got around to updating the Competitive hardware thread, and linked your review under it. Nice to see Avalons still handle the heat, my 741's were great for that on those bordereline days when I wasn't around to tweak them.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: StevenMosher on June 21, 2019, 03:54:21 AM hi guys I am back.
we have completed our enviromental testing up to 40C, for all the modes of the miner and yes they can take the heat. More samples should be going out shortly , we had some software tweaks and wanted to test the first few thousand machines in all the modes, especially turbo. We will open up the ordering. Demand is running pretty high, and manufacturers are light on inventory so first come first serve https://canaan.io/shop/ Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: minefarmbuy on June 21, 2019, 04:24:58 PM Looks like we're listing for August on 1041 while it's available.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: StevenMosher on June 24, 2019, 03:08:12 AM Bottom line. It is selling out pretty quickly so that now most large customers are pre purchasing Sept/Oct.
capacity at the fabs ( TSMC and Samsung) is pretty tight which means NO ONE will be able to build a huge wack of machines ( unlike Q1 and Q2 of 2018 ) With Upstream supply tight and BTC mooning even old shitty stuff is flying out the door. We just started selling 850! which is basically 851 that didnt met the spec. Moving like crazy. it looks to me like we will have a repeat of end of 2017 when demand was 10X the supply. If BTC holds or goes higher then you can expect shortages. life in bitcoin, never dull. I will try to reserve some quantity for smaller customers and put some aside for Nick at blokforge. he stuck with bitcoin and us through thick and thin. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on June 24, 2019, 01:01:28 PM Ja, it's pretty crazy right now. Glad I ordered my A10 through Blokforge in time for the early July delivery. Speaking of which, any better info on when the early July batch will be shipping?
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: Artemis3 on June 24, 2019, 09:01:15 PM we have completed our enviromental testing up to 40C, for all the modes of the miner and yes they can take the heat. Do you remember the humidity level in your tests? Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: digital$ on June 26, 2019, 04:48:57 PM can anyone verify if the A1041 presell "OCTOBER" price is $1054 as according to the home page announce https://canaan.io/ and is that subject to a MOQ? there product listing page still has price at $1210? sent mail inquiry(today) received a response asking me from what country i'm from but no follow up since
*edit* must be on MOQ but 100 units to much for me...looking @only 2 machines Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: PassThePopcorn on June 26, 2019, 05:34:16 PM You would need to contact one of their distributors for under the MOQ.
https://canaan.io/official-distributors/ Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: digital$ on June 26, 2019, 07:34:19 PM thanks, gears hard to come by and if this price rally continues we prob going to see "big" price increases from manufacturers like BM, Canaan, MicroBT etc in any new product offers after current presales are sold out. its a do or die scenario for me in securing extra machines now!(even with delivery dates 2-3 months out)...before the next adjustments. not buying to "increase" my farm hash rate just adding a %TH's to offset the impact of difficulty increase that is bound to be upwards of 20-25% in +-2 months
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: StevenMosher on June 27, 2019, 03:30:52 AM Ya you guys deserve a heads up and some insight into how things work in China.
A lot of the price changes you see are driven by the trading market in Shenzhen. Let's take an example: We list an old model ( say 850) at $250 on the website ( just an example ). A customer will come in and order 4000 and pay immediately. The next minute they are all over alibaba, wechat, etc, being adverstised for $275 in Shenzhen. Traders basically. there is no stopping them. What it means basically is that we got it "wrong" when we thought the market price was $250. We try to calculate a market price based on BTC prices and difficulty, but the market has different expectations for the future. the market may think MOON! and snap up all the product, reselling to make a quick buck. It's rather vicious and defies everything you might think from a western perspective. Of course things go the other way, when traders think MOON and the opposite happens. think 2018. So we try to pick a price where the stuff wont sell too slowly and not too quickly. We also have to decide how much to pre sell and how much to save for future spot market selling. Lets say I have X machines projected to be built in sept. do I want to pre sell all of them now? or do I want to sell some now at a discount and save some portion in case BTC continues to rocket to the moon? The best way to look at this is that the miner manufacturers are the longest betters in bitcoin. When we bet the cash to build a machine that bet wont be sellable for 90 days ( 60- 90 depends) if BTC moons, then its all good; if it crashes there is no way we can exit the position as a trader could with a stop loss. The cash to build a machine gets laid out in advance. we are commited deep and hard. As BTC continues up expect the same kind of craziness we saw in the end of 2017 when supplies were really tight. This is just bitcoin. When it moons the hardware manufactures have no way to respond rapidly; we will always lag the moon because it takes time to make machines. The shortage of machines then works to make it moon harder and if difficulty does not keep up to moderate profitability then the feedback for even more demand is set in place. and it moons harder.! If the hardware manufacturers overbuild (2018), then eventually difficulty will kick in to moderate profits and then reduce profits... and then the hardware costs come down... just in time for the slow movers to jump on the train and make it even more difficult.. or it comes down so hard that miners exit.. Long ago I used to work in modelling. I tried to model this. still trying. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: digital$ on June 27, 2019, 06:07:35 AM thanks for the explanation Steven :)
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: minefarmbuy on June 27, 2019, 11:22:36 PM Great insights Steve, thanks for the time here.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: PassThePopcorn on July 01, 2019, 09:46:31 PM Popin back in.
Got a few more in today with the bigger PSU. The bigger PSU does not mount onto the A10, it might just be a development / prototype. Had a small issue with the first one that was setup it seems to be reporting two bad hashboards, but the second one out of the box seems to work fine. It is daisy chained to the first one in the OP running two different firmware's and they seem to be getting along fine. From the looks of it the controllers just pass through, I'll need to check on the next one that gets setup but it looked like it won't work with DHCP and I had to set them to static because the default dns wasn't replying. So far I'm liking them, my only real complaint is having to login so much as it keeps kicking me out of the ui. Now I'll reiterate that these numbers are in extreme temps but in the short term it looks like in turbo mode: Poolside - 38-40TH/s UI - 35 TH/s Power Consumption ~ 2.7-2.9kw Power consumption in turbo is also a calculated estimate as the original A10 is running on the same meter, I'll split it off at some point and get a reading on just the turbo mode. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on July 01, 2019, 10:08:25 PM I have 2 on turbo they seem to do 2665 watts and 37th
on low 2015 and 31 th next question is what are your psu small and large. I have 2 the same https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZCEtbMz3vw Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: PassThePopcorn on July 01, 2019, 10:19:41 PM What temps are you running yours at, the higher the temp it seems the more they draw in power.
The first (small PSU) is in the OP, this one doesn't have the capability of doing Turbo and was part of the prototyping. The ones that arrived recently are Goespower. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on July 02, 2019, 12:41:09 PM Yeah I have the goespower they do turbo but my space gets wicked hot if I run them on turbo.
they run really well on normal. 2000 watts and 31 th with no issues. could you screenshot your static settings as I would like to try to set my 2 up daisychained and I am on Dhcp they don't daisychain/ Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: minefarmbuy on July 02, 2019, 02:27:11 PM Sounds like some tweaking to drop draw to spec? Hopefully some fw inc.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: PassThePopcorn on July 02, 2019, 02:55:23 PM ... could you screenshot your static settings as I would like to try to set my 2 up daisychained and I am on Dhcp they don't daisychain/ So I thought there was a problem with it being on DHCP but after setting up another one and changing the pool it seems to be fine on DHCP. When I switched the previous ones to static all I changed from what the miner picked was the DNS, to google's. The miner itself picked up an IP from the firewall and the gateway / subnet settings. One thing that was different from yesterday was when I ping the provided DNS today I get a reply, yesterday I didn't. Sounds like some tweaking to drop draw to spec? Hopefully some fw inc. I want to say that the increased draw is mostly caused by heat. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on July 02, 2019, 04:21:03 PM okay looks like I got a daisy chain working. so 1 port is used but 2 ip's
192.168.1.120 192.168.1.107 so this will cut switches down but you still need 2 addresses. that is good and bad. the good is you can check each unit and know if it is working this is nice if 1 of 20 units goes bad you know right away what is wrong. Others have said alter and make the address 192.168.x.x.x which allows for many more miners. vs 192.168.x.x Since I won't have that many in Clifton I will leave that to bigger farms. For me in Clifton I have 3 routers 192.168.1.1-254 comes off modem and does zero mining it goes to a 5 port switch that goes to 2 routers 192.168.0.1-254 this is all sha-256 45 pieces of gear 192.168.10.1-254 this is all L3+ 25 pieces of gear. I could buy a router with 192.168.2.1-254 then run all avalon sha-256 get a router with 4 outports 1 port for a controller laptop and 3 ports with daisy chains of a1041. easy to check and monitor the mining routers can be fairly low-cost. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: PassThePopcorn on July 02, 2019, 04:33:58 PM Yeah you will need IP's available it appears the miner simply acts as a pass-through and the miner still needs to connect to your router/firewall. Good news is you can access each one individually.
I believe if one of the early ones in the chain goes down you loose all the rest I'll test that when I get back. - This occurs if one machine goes down (so far if the PSU is off or dies) the rest of the miners in the chain stop, from the power reading they still pull full power. With the broken A10 however (where the hashboards don't work, I don't think this has a controller problem) the daisy chained miners still work. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: Artemis3 on July 03, 2019, 01:49:07 AM the bad is a router has 1-254 addresses so a really big miner will need to do some sub nets.. Why? Can't you just change the network mask? Why is it restricted to 8 bits where you could easily do 16 or 24 (using 10.x.x.x) ??? Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on July 03, 2019, 02:22:16 AM And like I said the last time I did large scale networking over 500 addresses was in a class around
10-15 years ago. Since I am not the expert or well versed in large setups of 1000 or 2000 unit networks. then the separate ip's should be a non issue. I did say I liked that you could easily see every miner since they have a separate ip. That makes trouble shooting better. I will go back and alter my remark since it seems to be easily fixable. Thanks for the heads up guys. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: yxt on July 03, 2019, 05:14:53 PM What is the default user/psw for the A1041?
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on July 03, 2019, 05:16:25 PM What is the default user/psw for the A1041? root root seems to work for me Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: yxt on July 03, 2019, 05:28:51 PM stupid me... thanks
I only tried admin:admin Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: PassThePopcorn on July 03, 2019, 07:37:39 PM I tested this "ring" system out and...
I think daisy chains are a brilliant idea that would help reduce clutter and cost, it would be even better if it had ring type topology to help with redundancy, can you test this Phil? Meaning the second miner goes back to the router and if any one cable is unplugged the miners still are connected. It took the entire subnet down. I tried it with all the A10's in DHCP as well as all being set to static and both resulted in an immediate loss of all machines, once I disconnected one end of the ring everything came back up. I've sent the suggestion to Avalon hopefully they would be able to implement something like this as it would greatly help with large daisy chains, I don't think anyone would want to run a 254 daisy chain if the second miner could loose power and then 252 are not working because of that one. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on July 03, 2019, 07:59:55 PM it would be good. but it seems that it was just like looping an eth cable on a switch it takes down the entire 1-254 set of addresses.
I have done this more than once. All the switch port like flicker really fast. So it is an improvement. over old style even if it stays just like it is. as you can see every miner on the chain. so a router to a 24 port switch old way you could do 1 eth in 23 out to rasp pi so 23 x 20 = 460 if you did a subnet. most of the time rasp pi preffered chains of 3 or 4 not 5 so 23 x 12 = 266 with a sub net. you needed 23 rasp pi you needed 23 eth to rasp pi you needed 23 x 4 dongle you needed 264 5 pin cable you needed 23 wall warts now you need 264 eth cables that is a nice improvement. you would have 23 daisy chains with 12 eth cables each. using 2 sub nets. if you have a good 48 port switch and chain 12 per 47 ports with subnets added way way easier than before. and more then 560 units a switch. finding the optimum daisy chain would be good. maybe it is 100 which is 4700 per 48 port switch. you just need a better quality eth cable maybe a cat 6 not a 5 or a 5e. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: yxt on July 04, 2019, 08:37:48 AM sure, you guys created a Switching-Loop.
That will only work if your switch can recognize that @PassThePopcorn I had misread it. Thought you're using a solid switch and the whole ring goes down only when a miner in the middle fails Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on July 13, 2019, 06:02:39 PM Having issues signing into mine.
It is mining to my pool but refuses to let me use root root to sign in. Which is weird as it let me sign in with root root on multiple occasions. One really nice thing is this is not very loud. I can run it in the garage and sleep in my bedroom above the garage. Can’t do that with the m20s from what’s miner the t17. From bitmain The s17. From bitmain The t39. From innosilicon are all much louder then the a1041 With the m20s being the loudest miner I have ever owned. This noise factor is a plus for a guy that loud miners are not good. The a1041 is the quietest one especially on normal setting which yields about 31th and 2065 watts. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on July 15, 2019, 01:48:43 PM Any non-demo A10's seen in the wild yet? It's looking like Canaan/Blokforge have blown the "early July" delivery date promised for those of us who bought in early May...
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on July 15, 2019, 05:01:43 PM No ready models out that I know of.
I figured out my sign in issue. I accidentally changed my password on the page that says admin. I thought it was an alternate sign in to do admin what it is is the password change page for the gui sign in so I altered my password by doing admin admin my sign-on is now: root admin The gear works well on normal setting. temps are good. the gui needs polishing up this changes the only login option from : root root to root admin https://i.imgur.com/73i6M4Q.png (https://imgur.com/73i6M4Q.png) Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: sarcheer on July 16, 2019, 12:46:41 PM Any non-demo A10's seen in the wild yet? It's looking like Canaan/Blokforge have blown the "early July" delivery date promised for those of us who bought in early May... The 1041 listing that I purchased was more specific about shipping being between July 15-20. I always feel more comfortable when they specify a date range beyond "early." I will be sure to update this thread whether I receive shipping or not by the 21st. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: minefarmbuy on July 18, 2019, 09:45:57 PM Dates are nice if from the manufacturer but speaking from service side there's nothing like a 1000s emails of "where's my unit" if there is a delay, etc. Half the reason we're not a reseller and typically serve those that know about how these things are released anyway.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on July 18, 2019, 09:56:37 PM I always attempt to not pester sellers / builders about my gear due.
My list of gear due is always long. I have 118th in sha 256 due. I have power cables due. I have some psu's due. I have some special double sided high heat foam tape due I have multiple 48 port switches due. I went and got then so that should allow ethernet cable ring loops with a1041 gear. bold is on point for this post/thread. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: PassThePopcorn on July 18, 2019, 10:08:45 PM I have an 8 port switch due in next week that should be able to handle the ring loops, was only $30 on amazon.
My hope is that canaan will be able to get a firmware version to prevent the loop soon and not need to purchase any additional smart switches for the future. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on July 18, 2019, 11:35:42 PM I have an 8 port switch due in next week that should be able to handle the ring loops, was only $30 on amazon. My hope is that canaan will be able to get a firmware version to prevent the loop soon and not need to purchase any additional smart switches for the future. please send me a link for it. better yet post it here. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: PassThePopcorn on July 19, 2019, 01:54:27 PM please send me a link for it. better yet post it here. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K4DS5KU/ Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: sarcheer on July 22, 2019, 02:12:02 PM Given my Blokforge order for an A1041 was supposed to ship July 15-20, if it doesn't ship today (because of the weekend) I'll consider it officially late.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on July 22, 2019, 02:34:38 PM Given my Blokforge order for an A1041 was supposed to ship July 15-20, if it doesn't ship today (because of the weekend) I'll consider it officially late. Ditto for the 2nd one I ordered in June.And actually, my 1st A10 ordered May 13th was supposed to ship "early July" so I already consider that one late. Really surprised we have not gotten a status update from Canaan/Blokforge... Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on July 22, 2019, 03:00:07 PM I suspect they are having an issue with the controllers/gui
the beta models have weird behavior at times. My 2 units run perfectly in my home with optimum internet. but I can not get them to work in Clifton NJ with Verizon fios internet. I will be bring up a different router this week to try to get them to run. Even when the controllers run here at my house they are flakey. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on July 22, 2019, 03:11:11 PM Whatever the reason, given their past communications history I really expected Canaan to let us know the reason for the delay ???
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on July 22, 2019, 03:34:16 PM Whatever the reason, given their past communications history I really expected Canaan to let us know the reason for the delay ??? Yeah usually they are very good that way. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: taserz on July 26, 2019, 06:34:40 AM I might be picking up the a1047 seems to slightly beat the 1041.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: HagssFIN on July 26, 2019, 11:46:18 AM I might be picking up the a1047 seems to slightly beat the 1041. Where did you find the A1047 model? Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: mgoz on July 26, 2019, 02:19:28 PM Given my Blokforge order for an A1041 was supposed to ship July 15-20, if it doesn't ship today (because of the weekend) I'll consider it officially late. When the 921 first came out I ordered a couple from Blokforge. Those shipped late too and Blokforge blamed it on customs holding them. I liked ordering from Blokforge to support a U.S. business, but the markups for customs and doing away with credit card processing killed it for me. I've always gotten early or on time when ordering directly from manufacturer. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: minefarmbuy on July 26, 2019, 02:29:36 PM And people wonder why we want to send them directly. . ..
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: Biffa on July 26, 2019, 07:39:28 PM Where did you find the A1047 model? There was a tweet by Canaan https://twitter.com/canaanio/status/1154193629763837952 Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: Blokforge on July 26, 2019, 09:31:32 PM Given my Blokforge order for an A1041 was supposed to ship July 15-20, if it doesn't ship today (because of the weekend) I'll consider it officially late. When the 921 first came out I ordered a couple from Blokforge. Those shipped late too and Blokforge blamed it on customs holding them. I liked ordering from Blokforge to support a U.S. business, but the markups for customs and doing away with credit card processing killed it for me. I've always gotten early or on time when ordering directly from manufacturer. We just got the first batch today, will run though testing and shipping ones that are to spec starting Monday, although we like to never ship late, we are at the mercy of the manufacturer to ship on time, but they are all swamped right now. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: taserz on July 27, 2019, 05:02:32 AM Where did you find the A1047 model? It's on the chinese avalon site. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on July 27, 2019, 11:08:00 AM It's on the chinese avalon site. could you give a link please. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: HagssFIN on July 27, 2019, 12:23:41 PM could you give a link please. Phil, I found it. Link: http://www.avalonminer.shop/product/info?productId=40 Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on July 27, 2019, 01:18:19 PM Good I used google to translate it:
So here are specs and photo from link above https://i.imgur.com/rcX7QmA.png (https://imgur.com/rcX7QmA.png) Rated calculation power: 37TH/S (-5% to +5%) Wall power consumption: 2442w/h (-5% to +5%) Energy consumption ratio: 66W/T Number of chips: (16 nm A3205 chip) 240 pieces Fan: 2*12038 FAN Operating environment: -5 ° C to 35 ° C Indoor noise: 65db Geometric size: 190mm*190mm*292mm Weight: 7.9kg Note: Standard 2600W adjustable power supply Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: Blokforge on July 27, 2019, 07:20:39 PM We will be shipping the 1st batch monday. We need to upgrade the firmware on all units this weekend prior to shipment due to DHCP lease rule code issue on some units. You should all receive tracking monday.
And this is why we do not dropship to customers, its our responsibility the units are functioning as expected prior to shipment if purchased from us. Thanks for your patience. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on July 27, 2019, 07:30:17 PM We will be shipping the 1st batch monday. We need to upgrade the firmware on all units this weekend prior to shipment due to DHCP lease rule code issue on some units. You should all receive tracking monday. And this is why we do not dropship to customers, its our responsibility the units are functioning as expected prior to shipment if purchased from us. Thanks for your patience. Hmmm I wonder if my beta models have had that issue come and go. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: Blokforge on July 27, 2019, 07:52:11 PM Hmmm I wonder if my beta models have had that issue come and go. You can email us screen shot of your version and if so we can guide though update if needed, can jump on telegram with you. You will know if you have the issue, wont be able to access the machine any longer though network. Not sure if your beta has turbo mode or not, depending how beta it was. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on July 27, 2019, 08:06:29 PM it comes and goes it has 2 speeds 31th and 37 th.
Gear is in a remote site I will post info sometime in next 3-7 days as I am going up to site in next week. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: Blokforge on July 30, 2019, 06:41:12 PM 1st bath is now shipping today.
After getting devs to work out another DNS bug last night that was reverting DNS to mainland china address causing lockup, units are solid now, reflashing all of them. Also added tool to upgrade firmware within the web portal so does not have to be done with command line any longer as that would have made people lose their mind. average seems to be 37TH/s@2098W in performance and 32.4TH/s@1823W in standard with 89F ambient. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on July 30, 2019, 07:52:55 PM 1st bath is now shipping today. Excellent and the one on its way takes care of the order I did May 13th that was slated for 'early July".... Now... About the order I placed on June 25th for 2x A10's that were supposed to ship July 15-20 -- Any dates for *that* batch? Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: sarcheer on July 30, 2019, 08:25:30 PM For me, my order was the July 15-20 batch and, based on communications with Blokforge about my order, IS this batch.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on July 30, 2019, 08:30:52 PM Hmm... I've only gotten recent info on my May 13th order and nothing (yet) about the 2 that I ordered on June 25th. ???
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: Blokforge on July 30, 2019, 08:51:31 PM Shipping all of July shipment ones, you may have only gotten one email notification. If you PM me your order numbers can make sure, or reply to the one email, but All July will ship.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: sarcheer on July 31, 2019, 12:09:46 AM Got my shipping notification from Blokforge!
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on July 31, 2019, 11:29:28 AM let us know how these work. @ blokforge do these units have the premounted psu.
the beta ones I got have a loose psu. gospower is the name. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: sarcheer on July 31, 2019, 07:08:23 PM let us know how these work. @ blokforge do these units have the premounted psu. the beta ones I got have a loose psu. gospower is the name. Good point, the units being shipped this batch have the loose PSU from gospower. Blokforge sent around an email just prior to shipping to make sure buyers were ok with receiving this different psu setup from the mounted/integrated psu that was indicated at preorder. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on August 01, 2019, 03:33:14 AM I only have two beta units so loose psu’s are not a big issue.
But I do wonder if the efficiency is different. I will say this. The a1041 on low speed 31th is a nice quiet unit. Does around 58 watts a th maybe less 57 or 56 Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on August 01, 2019, 12:47:13 PM There really should be no difference in PSU efficiency. If anything, the PSU case looks physically larger which *could* imply it will run a bit cooler since should have better airflow and that often gives a tad bit more efficiency. Heavy gauge cables vs bus bars should be moot.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: minefarmbuy on August 01, 2019, 04:39:32 PM I was under the impression the integrated psu was for more efficiency. I really doubt Canaan will be sending out gear that will go lame on you anyway.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: Blokforge on August 01, 2019, 05:11:50 PM let us know how these work. @ blokforge do these units have the premounted psu. the beta ones I got have a loose psu. gospower is the name. These are the same, gospower, but you can still consider them integrated since they do have the additional cables between psu and miner, for regulation, they are just not mounted to side of unit due to size. They are solid units, considering all the failures we heard of with the S17 psu's thus far, i would be more comfortable with these regardless. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: PassThePopcorn on August 01, 2019, 09:54:58 PM please send me a link for it. better yet post it here. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K4DS5KU/ This is a nice cheap way for loopback detection / prevention, it worked out of the box disabling the port. Immediately after turning off the first system in the chain the switch detected the first port was down and reactivated the deactivated port it appeared there was little to no delay in mining as by the time I got to the computer everything was still running. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on August 02, 2019, 08:04:15 PM These are the same, gospower, but you can still consider them integrated since they do have the additional cables between psu and miner, for regulation, they are just not mounted to side of unit due to size. They are solid units, considering all the failures we heard of with the S17 psu's thus far, i would be more comfortable with these regardless. Of all the gear tested the Avalon a1041 with the larger psu and this larger fan was the best to run at low speed. It was due to the unattached psu. If I were to use 5 more units. I would have zero issues with the loose psu. I got 31th at lower speed setting and it was pretty quiet. Makes it good for a home miner. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: qctechno_isback on August 03, 2019, 11:58:59 AM I got 31th at lower speed setting and it was pretty quiet. Makes it good for a home miner. Thank you for your feedback and tests results, worth it. I'm looking for quiet miner , the A1041 is a good candidate but I didn't pull the trigger on it yet. I had mining issues at ProHashing.com ( Multipool ) and at dgb-sha.theblocksfactory.com ( DGB Mining / SHA256 ) with the A721. The A721 was dropping / reject a lot of hashrate. Digibyte blocks are release at 15sec pace. The Avalon's didn't like it. No issues with the ant's ( S7 / S9 / S15 ) I would be interested to see tests results if someone could try those 2 pools with the a1041 and report back. Thanks ! Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on August 03, 2019, 12:47:23 PM @ qctechno_isback
my machines are in Clifton NJ about a 90 minute car ride. And I won't be going up there for a week or so. Also this is an alt coin question,so I would suggest pm'ing a few guys to see if they will test for you. There really should be no difference in PSU efficiency. If anything, the PSU case looks physically larger which *could* imply it will run a bit cooler since should have better airflow and that often gives a tad bit more efficiency. Heavy gauge cables vs bus bars should be moot. well it is quieter on the lower speed setting then the bitmain s17 is on the lower speed setting. I would say it is a decent home miner due to that. my quietist new gear is the m21s on low speed but 29th is way lower then the high speed setting's 56th the a1041 is 31th on lower setting vs 37th on higher setting. So if you are a home miner a few a1041's on low speed should work sound wise due to the fatter gospower psu and dropping to the low speed you don't lose a lot of the 37 drops to 31. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: BitcoinIntern on August 04, 2019, 09:32:32 PM Did anyone receive the shipment from Blokforge?
Has the efficiency really gone from 2.7 kw to 2.089 kw for the 37 TH mode with the update in the firmware? Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on August 04, 2019, 10:07:33 PM Did anyone receive the shipment from Blokforge? Has the efficiency really gone from 2.7 kw to 2.089 kw for the 37 TH mode with the update in the firmware? Well that would be nice if true. I wonder what efficiency is for 31th setting. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: BitcoinIntern on August 04, 2019, 10:53:26 PM 1st bath is now shipping today. After getting devs to work out another DNS bug last night that was reverting DNS to mainland china address causing lockup, units are solid now, reflashing all of them. Also added tool to upgrade firmware within the web portal so does not have to be done with command line any longer as that would have made people lose their mind. average seems to be 37TH/s@2098W in performance and 32.4TH/s@1823W in standard with 89F ambient. Hey Philipma...I say this because of the above post from Blokforge...so wanted to ask the miners if they can confirm the 37TH/s@2098W. We will be shipping the 1st batch monday. We need to upgrade the firmware on all units this weekend prior to shipment due to DHCP lease rule code issue on some units. You should all receive tracking monday. And this is why we do not dropship to customers, its our responsibility the units are functioning as expected prior to shipment if purchased from us. Thanks for your patience. So if the shipment gets to Blokforge first and then it is sent to the miners after they upgrade the software how does the tarriff come into play? Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: minefarmbuy on August 04, 2019, 11:59:35 PM If it's the US already your fine. Though I recall talks of Blokforge looking at/for fulfillment services from the "Ruling" discussion. Best if they reply or contact them directly.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: BitcoinIntern on August 05, 2019, 03:00:37 AM If it's the US already your fine. Though I recall talks of Blokforge looking at/for fulfillment services from the "Ruling" discussion. Best if they reply or contact them directly. Yeah, I am hoping they will reply here on the post. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: Blokforge on August 05, 2019, 04:49:40 AM 1st bath is now shipping today. After getting devs to work out another DNS bug last night that was reverting DNS to mainland china address causing lockup, units are solid now, reflashing all of them. Also added tool to upgrade firmware within the web portal so does not have to be done with command line any longer as that would have made people lose their mind. average seems to be 37TH/s@2098W in performance and 32.4TH/s@1823W in standard with 89F ambient. Hey Philipma...I say this because of the above post from Blokforge...so wanted to ask the miners if they can confirm the 37TH/s@2098W. We will be shipping the 1st batch monday. We need to upgrade the firmware on all units this weekend prior to shipment due to DHCP lease rule code issue on some units. You should all receive tracking monday. And this is why we do not dropship to customers, its our responsibility the units are functioning as expected prior to shipment if purchased from us. Thanks for your patience. So if the shipment gets to Blokforge first and then it is sent to the miners after they upgrade the software how does the tarriff come into play? Yes, these are running 36-37 TH/s @2098 give or take a bit depending on ambient temp. Correct, we paid tariff already on the miners in stock, pre-order pricing does not include tariff, willl be added at checkout if in the united states. PM me your pool info, we can point one there a few hours. blocksfactory is tricky as you need to really need to get the perfect difficulty level figured out and add to worker name, pool doesnt really like vardiff that much for some reason. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on August 05, 2019, 06:01:16 PM Got my 1st of 3 A10's today and looks to be in fine shape.
About using the loose PSU: You should include a picture of how the heavy-gauge + and - power cables connect to the PSU and miner as there are NO markings on the miner saying what-goes-where. Yes I have pic of it (from Blokforge) handy but I'm sure many folks may not have that. https://i.imgur.com/7JVCoBYm.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/7JVCoBYm.jpg) edit: CRAP! Missing a part - the little circuit board seen in the pic on top of the PSU. The board connects the ribbon and 2 other cables together and I'm dead in the water without it... :'( Ticket started with Blokforge Really hoping that the 2 other miners arriving tomorrow have the board... edit edit: Nick @ Blokforge is overnighting me a replacement. Love those folks and their excellent customer service! Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: Pyrojason on August 06, 2019, 12:30:02 AM Sounds like they're really on the ball there - a shame it was missing but great that they've been so easy to work with.
How many wires is it? Could you have wired it by hand in an emergency or is it one of those maze-like-so-many-tiny-wires-of-doom connections? Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on August 06, 2019, 12:35:05 AM wait for a link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZCEtbMz3vw look at about 3:01 time he is missing that black connector = DOA until you get one. I have the older firmware. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on August 06, 2019, 01:45:22 AM Yep. That's it.
Looking at your video I see that there is an insulator strip under the power lug connections to the miner. VERY good idea and is lacking on the miner I got. Yes at least there is an insulating nylon grommet around the hole where the miner power connects BUT nonetheless there is very little gap between the power lugs and the miner casing. Along with marking the polarity I immediately applied a couple layers of electrical tape under the edge of the grommets and covering where the power lugs might come in contact with the case. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: HagssFIN on August 06, 2019, 08:43:49 AM The polarity markings are well hidden under the cover in the hash board.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on August 06, 2019, 05:38:26 PM 1st. The needed missing adapter plugboard came in as promised ;D
2nd. Arrgggg.... The miner is not showing up on my router :'( The LAN port light on my switch for the connection to the miner comes on for about a second then goes out for about 3 sec, loops forever like that. Looking at the router connections I sometimes very briefly see and new name & IP pop up but it goes away before I can read it. I assume that is the miner trying to connect? Never mind - after about 10 min it found it Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on August 06, 2019, 05:54:19 PM I had a lot of lan appearing then not appearing issues then appearing. but my 2 have been stable for the last 15 days
https://i.imgur.com/EGPeow8.png (https://i.imgur.com/EGPeow8.png) https://i.imgur.com/jlxosuB.png https://i.imgur.com/FS2thCy.png https://i.imgur.com/Kb9Zmg7.png https://i.imgur.com/rGgGYLb.png https://i.imgur.com/pfXo8GT.png Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on August 06, 2019, 06:13:10 PM I scratched out too soon. The network connection port light on switch still is on for a sec or 2 and actually pulses like xfr'ing data then completely goes out for several seconds, another very short activity burst then connection gone again, repeat. Both Firefox and Chrome respond very slowly and often throw a page not found fault.
ever find the reason for the intermittency? I'll fire up one of the 2 I got in today to check if this is endemic... Meanwhile, putting the 2x 841's I took offline for the power slot back on until this is figured out. Is not endemic. Fired up one of the A10's that came in today and network connections work fine, both Chrome and Firefox respond quickly. This miner is running version 19072902_b5ff440_c2a3a66 so I'll check the version number on the flaky one tomorrow. I do see that the insulating grommets around the openings in the case for power are different style and color. On the flaky miner they are narrow and white nylon. The connection pads are slightly recessed below the edges of the grommet so when the cable lugs are tightened down the nylon grommet is being squeezed pretty tightly. On both the miners that came today the grommets are black nylon and have tabs covering the area under where the lugs will rest, also the connection pads are flush with the grommet so it is not being compressed. Wonder if those differences are production batch/version related? 1st miner received (with flaky network), note the thin white grommets. I added the orange tape to prevent possible shorts. https://i.imgur.com/Uekdx1Qm.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/Uekdx1Qm.jpg) that thin grommet results in VERY little clearance between the power lugs and case, ergo the tape I added https://i.imgur.com/CJKNS53m.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/CJKNS53m.jpg) Later versions with much safer grommet providing tabs between the power lugs and case https://i.imgur.com/dzmDNmUm.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/dzmDNmUm.jpg) Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: BitcoinIntern on August 08, 2019, 01:54:04 AM How much power is it taking?
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on August 08, 2019, 12:40:54 PM How much power is it taking? That is covered by others earlier on in the thread if one bothers to read back a bit...Right now I'm busy with other things like getting the 1st batch one to play nice with my router. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: BitcoinIntern on August 08, 2019, 03:30:47 PM Alright busy man... let us know when you have time to post some actual. Wondering if it actually takes 2089. That would be a game changer but highly skeptical.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: PassThePopcorn on August 08, 2019, 03:57:37 PM Alright busy man... let us know when you have time to post some actual. Wondering if it actually takes 2089. That would be a game changer but highly skeptical. As the OP who ran numbers and has read every post in this thread, him saying to read previous posts is suggested by me as well. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on August 08, 2019, 06:24:22 PM Back to the 1st A10 I got in that would not keep a stable network connection...
Was going to try and flash it to different FW but.... 1) is same version as the other 2 A10's, and 2) It fired up just fine today and so far after several hours it's stable. No dropouts whatsoever and holding at 31+THs on the GUI in Normal mode. Go fig.... Whatcha wanna bet that it barfs when I move it from my test bench to upstairs to replace 2 of the uc/uv'd 841's.... Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on August 08, 2019, 08:55:44 PM Back to the 1st A10 I got in that would not keep a stable network connection... Was going to try and flash it to different FW but.... 1) is same version as the other 2 A10's, and 2) It fired up just fine today and so far after several hours it's stable. No dropouts whatsoever and holding at 31+THs on the GUI in Normal mode. Go fig.... Whatcha wanna bet that it barfs when I move it from my test bench to upstairs to replace 2 of the uc/uv'd 841's.... mine are still stable after 2 weeks. I think I got ones like yours with the trouble . As I needed to use some padding to prevent shorts. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: PassThePopcorn on August 09, 2019, 02:10:58 PM One of the only issues I had with it was in turbo mode some of the PSU's didn't have the best time and gave over current warnings and shut down.
Another was during the update fms would say update failed while the miner itself took the update. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: coffeefan on August 27, 2019, 01:18:30 PM Anyone has a clear update regarding how miners it's possible to daisy chain without issues?
Also, what do you use for management / monitoring? Awesome Miner is working for 1041? Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: PassThePopcorn on August 27, 2019, 04:10:30 PM "254" could probably be more as the controller seems to just act as a passthrew, the issue is if any loose power the ones after that go out also as there is no connection to the switch for internet. If you have a smart switch with loop protection you can plug in both ends in and if one goes down you only loose that one.
It's running cgminer so it should work, worst case a few small things need to be changed on awesomeminer's end to make it fully work. Canaan has a program called FMS it does an ehh job of watching them but with the few I have I just check pool side, I don't trust the software of new equipment and only trust what the pool says. That software is also used to update them. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on August 31, 2019, 01:07:20 AM Anyone ever find out what causes the A1041 to sometimes reject logging into it?
After updating one of mine to the latest Firmware, using my main PC at work FireFox throws a "Connection was Reset" error when I try to get into the miner. Sometimes the Login screen will flash by and then the connection reset error. Miner IS happily hashing away as normal at Kanopool. Tried clearing cache, cookies, restarting browser - no go. Using Chrome on same PC bring up the login screen but after entering the info it hangs on the black background screen of FMS. BTW: I had this exact same problem when I first got the miner After wasting 1/2 a day trying to figure it out I set it aside and fired up my 2nd one. It and my 3rd one were zero problems. A day or 2 later I got back to the first A10 and -- was able to login in and setup just fine. worked ever since until this update. Weird thing is that using a different PC to login miner #1 works fine... Rather makes me afraid to upgrade my other A1041's. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: EncoreMining on August 31, 2019, 03:37:21 PM Where are you guys getting these A10s from?
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on August 31, 2019, 04:26:16 PM Where are you guys getting these A10s from? Blockforge.comI got some of the first released that came with separate PSU's. Now they have the A1047 with integrated PSU. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: HagssFIN on August 31, 2019, 06:29:19 PM Blockforge.com I got some of the first released that came with separate PSU's. Now they have the A1047 with integrated PSU. *fix: https://blokforge.com/ Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on August 31, 2019, 06:59:34 PM yeah auto correct is a bitch
good link for 1047 november https://blokforge.com/product/canaan-avalon-1041-31th-s-bitcoin-miner-shipping-november/ Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: jbillk on August 31, 2019, 09:57:12 PM Looks like August Batch is late. Haven't received tracking number yet. ::)
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: coffeefan on September 05, 2019, 04:13:02 PM Is there someone running the A1041 in bigger farms? How did you place them (arrangement with the PSU).
Must admit the design with separate PSUs really sucks and it's not easy to arrange them as dense as possible (mining in mining container, space is issue). Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: jbillk on September 06, 2019, 07:28:23 PM Looks like August Batch is late. Haven't received tracking number yet. ::) Received August batch today. Can confirm PSU mounted on unit. Ordered 1041, received 1047. Firmware needs some work, couldn't access on windows 8 for some reason. Only allowed to enter 1 pool address. No instructions included. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: sarcheer on September 07, 2019, 04:30:19 PM Wow, looks like Blokforge is trying to pull one over on us. Pricing hasn't changed for current batches, but tariffs are no longer included! When I purchased my 1041 a couple of months ago, tariffs were not a separate item tacked on after you go to checkout.
Just something to be aware of for those placing new orders. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on September 09, 2019, 01:03:58 PM Quote Wow, looks like Blokforge is trying to pull one over on us. They started that a couple weeks ago. I wouldn't call it 'trying to pull one', I'd put it more as they are just leery of changes to the Trump tax and needed a way to make it a separate line item.Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: minefarmbuy on September 09, 2019, 01:07:12 PM Most consumers hate "surprises" cart. Though this one is pretty reasonable for US buyers.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: ailikun on October 02, 2019, 12:00:20 PM so is the a1047 the same as the a1041?
Does the a1047 also have low power mode? Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on October 02, 2019, 12:06:29 PM so is the a1047 the same as the a1041? Mostly the same and yes. Only difference I see on the one I got Monday is that the PSU is attached like the 1041 was *supposed* to use. (all 3 of my 1041's have the loose PSU) Speeds are >31THs in Normal mode and >36THs in High PerformanceDoes the a1047 also have low power mode? edit: Oh, and the A1047 uses a C19 plug for power - not a C13. It comes with a cord but the wall end is a 'crow foot' style. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: coffeefan on October 02, 2019, 03:16:12 PM How fat cables are you guys using to feed it? Seems hard to get powerful C13 for reasonable price (as well the connector itself is rated for 16A max. I think).
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on October 02, 2019, 03:18:33 PM How fat cables are you guys using to feed it? Seems hard to get powerful C13 for reasonable price (as well the connector itself is rated for 16A max. I think). The A1047 uses a C19 plug - NOT a c13. As noted above, it comes with a cord but the wall end is a 'crow foot' style.I use www.stayonline.com for all my cables Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: wndsnb on October 03, 2019, 05:39:17 PM Yes, these are running 36-37 TH/s @2098 give or take a bit depending on ambient temp... Has anyone else verified these numbers on the latest batches? 56W/th vs 64W/th in high power mode is a pretty giant difference. Title: Re: Avalon A1047 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on October 03, 2019, 07:43:49 PM <snip> Well I just finished a few tests with the A1047 I rcvd on Monday:Has anyone else verified these numbers on the latest batches? 56W/th vs 64W/th in high power mode is a pretty giant difference. Date: Oct. 1, 2019 Miner: Canaan Avalon 1047 Rcvd: Sept. 30, 2019 Power source: Triplite 6kva dual-conversion UPS Voltage out: 230V +/- 0.5% Ambient temp: 85F (29.4C) Note: UPS is also powering a M10 pulling 2.17-2.18kw, this baseline load is subtracted from UPS readings to give test miner load. - Miner in Normal mode for 30 min - Power: 2.06kw GUI speed: 31.31THs Efficiency: 65.79W/THs After 24hrs speed/power are the same. Date: Oct. 2, 2019 - Miner in High Performance mode for 1.5hrs - Power: 2.65kw GUI speed: 37.6 THs Efficiency: 70.48W/THs Do note that the miner is running in a fairly warm room and that definitely affects power usage. Title: Re: Avalon A1047 Review Post by: philipma1957 on October 04, 2019, 02:06:13 AM yeah if you can get them in a 10c or 50f room they get a good efficiency boost.
even 16c or 60f helps Over 28c or 80f they start pulling more power. A lot of other companies have the same issue. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: Katun on October 11, 2019, 07:52:04 PM Where can I purchase a type I to type B adapter for the power supply on this miner (A1047.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: Philipma1957cellphone on October 12, 2019, 03:03:28 AM Where can I purchase a type I to type B adapter for the power supply on this miner (A1047. try blokforge. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: HagssFIN on October 12, 2019, 08:07:59 AM Where can I purchase a type I to type B adapter for the power supply on this miner (A1047). Why not just buy a C19 to Type B power cord? Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: Katun on October 12, 2019, 02:32:34 PM I did not think to replace the provided power cord. This seems like the better route to take. Thank you for the suggestion.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: digital$ on October 12, 2019, 07:48:51 PM recently on a order for A1047's was told they didn't have LOA certification required by some(dunno?)countries. out of interest, anyone have any issues ordering state side without that certificate? Im in South Africa just interested if requirements in US are the same and if they have since obtained that certificate(my understanding is they were waiting for it)
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on October 12, 2019, 09:04:10 PM I got got my a1041 from haggsfin and it does not work. It is the Same style unit as tested in this review , but has the loose psu. I seem to have bad psu it is putting out 0 volts to the boards. I will post log Code: {'STATUS':[{'STATUS':'S','When':0,'Code':11,'Msg':'Summary','Description':'cgminer 4.11.1'}],'SUMMARY':[{'Elapsed':179,'MHS av':0.00,}I know those 0's are wrong and the psu puts out 0 volts I not sure what is wrong as my connections look good. Dead as a door nail for the moment. Not sure what to reset or clear to get psu to turn on. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: PassThePopcorn on October 13, 2019, 07:27:41 PM Is it hooked up properly? I think it's a primary over current for the psu error. Possibly just a bad psu.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on October 13, 2019, 08:12:06 PM I have to go up to Clifton I have the two others up there.
I think this was dropped in shipping. Hagss sent me pictures of it befor he shipped it and the psu box had no dents. When it arrived the psu box had a dent. My guess is the two pieces were dropped from a six to ten foot height and something in the psu broke. When hagss shipped the m20s this summer it went missing for two weeks arrived with a dent in the cardboard box which cracked a fan. I repaired that. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: HagssFIN on October 13, 2019, 08:57:11 PM It seems to be somewhat unsafe if Finnish postal service Posti + the USPS combination is used for the shipping.. :/
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on October 13, 2019, 10:05:08 PM When I get to Clifton I will shut down the working Avalon disconnect the power on the psu.
Fire 🔥 up the good gear with just the controller attached to the good psu. I want to see if the good psu does the same readings when not attached to the hash boards. Or if it gives out power. I will then see if the good psu will run the dead 💀 unit. At hagss it appears that the gear gets handled very hard at the airport. Since both boxes sent one in July one in Oct had damage. I asked Steve of Avalon if he has a way to rma the gear. I sent him an email this morning. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: minefarmbuy on October 14, 2019, 01:30:29 PM Will be kind if they do considering how the damage occurred. Seems likely that heavy boxes were stored high in a parcel truck.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on October 16, 2019, 12:55:55 PM I think they toss the gear around offloading the plane. Steve replied to an email and said he would forward this to the rma department. Maybe I will get a replacement unit. I will post back on it. Planning to bring unit to Clifton hopefully on thurs will test to see exactly what broke. Psu or hash boards or both. Once I determine what is broken I will follow up here and with avalon to see what replacement parts are needed. Best case is psu is dead hashboard are good. Second best is psu works hashboards are dead. Worst case is both psu and hashboard is dead. fans work controller works Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: cottora on May 17, 2020, 01:38:27 AM In regards to the PSU discussion...Curios, we have about 800 841 that we are starting to phase out and we are thinking about buying some used 1041s. We have good 841 PSUs in the boneyard, is it possible to use two 841 PSU to power one 1041 (just thinking about cost savings if we get a PSU failure on a 1041).
Thanks Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: BitcoinIntern on May 17, 2020, 03:12:54 AM Low power mode in the A1047 is now only doing 25 TH. Anyone noticed it? Has this issue been fixed?
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on May 18, 2020, 12:47:32 AM In regards to the PSU discussion...Curios, we have about 800 841 that we are starting to phase out and we are thinking about buying some used 1041s. We have good 841 PSUs in the boneyard, is it possible to use two 841 PSU to power one 1041 (just thinking about cost savings if we get a PSU failure on a 1041). From the A10xx on up all Canaan miners use a built-in PSU and CANNOT use an external one.Thanks Why? Simple - the reason is to squeeze every bit of efficiency they can get. As Bitmain has done the chips on the hash boards are directly powered by the PSU vs having a final high current regulator on each board. The PSU is programmable via the controller and directly sets voltage to the ASIC strings. Losing the secondary regulators boosts eff by several %. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: cottora on May 18, 2020, 01:38:45 AM Thank you!
Curios, what are the review of the 1041 now that we are a year into the original post? Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on May 18, 2020, 02:52:20 PM Curios, what are the review of the 1041 now that we are a year into the original post? I like them. Only thing against the 1041 is that Canaan so far has not released an update for it to use 3 pools & have More Options entry box like they did for the 1047 on up.Very occasionally the 10xx series may have an issue connecting to some routers, not sure why but a reboot of the router seems to take care of it. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: PassThePopcorn on May 19, 2020, 07:20:54 PM I got mine working with 3 pools.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: philipma1957 on May 19, 2020, 07:25:05 PM did you use the inspect page option
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: smracer on June 13, 2020, 02:57:38 PM Has anyone messed around with the privileged API for the A10 series?
https://github.com/Canaan-Creative/avalon10-docs/tree/master/Privileged%20API Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: cottora on June 14, 2020, 06:18:33 PM Does anyone have trouble with the idle/shutdown command? We have a mix of about 60 A10s and they are sporadic when we send an idle command. Some idle as intended, some show 150c temps, idle down, and then reboot.
Code: 2.8. Shut down HASH power Has anyone messed around with the privileged API for the A10 series? https://github.com/Canaan-Creative/avalon10-docs/tree/master/Privileged%20API I get an error when trying to enter privilege mode (and any privilege commands). Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: wndsnb on June 19, 2020, 12:50:20 AM I suspect there may be differences between different firmware versions. I attempted to use the API to set the pool on a few 1066s and ended up with two miners that are hashing nowhere. Been waiting 2 days for my host to do a factory reset to get them back up... The web UI freezes up after the login screen.
Some of the commands listed in the API returned an unknown command error. But the reboot, idle, and pool commands didn't return any errors. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: cottora on July 16, 2020, 05:04:29 PM I am now also having issues setting the pool. Below is the error I get when sending the exact command that is in the manual
Code: echo -n "ascset|0,setpool,root,root,stratum+tcp://btc.ss.poolin.com:443,cctrix.001,123" | socat -t 30 stdio tcp:192.168.88.187:4028,shut-none && echo Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: smracer on July 19, 2020, 04:29:53 PM Here is mine - it works perfectly
Code: echo -n 'ascset|0,setpool,root,root,stratum+tcp://btc.ss.poolin.com:443,btcpig.001,123' | socat -t 10 stdio tcp:192.168.2.'$count':4028,shut-none && echo The only difference is the quotes? Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: cottora on July 21, 2020, 02:58:08 PM Thanks for the reply! What version FW are you using? I get the same error.
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: smracer on July 22, 2020, 09:19:40 PM Newest firmware
Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: cottora on August 08, 2020, 02:09:18 AM Canaan clarified the changes in the command. With the newer FW that allows for multiple pools, you must specify the pool number in the command. For example, to set pool #2 you put "2" after the miner password:
Code: echo -n "ascset|0,setpool,root,root,2,stratum+tcp://btc.ss.poolin.com:443,cctrix.001,123" | socat -t 300 stdio tcp:192.168.1.174:4028,shut-none && echo In order to set all three pools, a total of three commands must be executed, where the number will be 0, 1, and 2 to set each of the pools. A reboot is needed after pools are set. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: Katun on July 09, 2021, 08:50:08 PM Is there a C19 to nema 5-20 cord for an Avalon 1047?
Edit: All my search results are for 120V cords. I don't see any results for 240V. Stupid electricians anyway. Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on July 09, 2021, 09:03:48 PM Is there a C19 to nema 5-20p cord for an Avalon 1047? No because a NEMA 5-20 is for use with 110VAC @ up to 20A - not 220V. The A1047 PSU requires a minimum of 208VAC input and all (NEMA rated) 208-250VAC connectors are NEMA 6-xx.Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: Katun on July 10, 2021, 06:48:57 PM Is there a C19 to nema 5-20p cord for an Avalon 1047? No because a NEMA 5-20 is for use with 110VAC @ up to 20A - not 220V. The A1047 PSU requires a minimum of 208VAC input and all (NEMA rated) 208-250VAC connectors are NEMA 6-xx.Okay. Is there a recommended outlet I can replace the NEMA 5-20 the electricians installed? Is there a type B outlet for 220V? Title: Re: Avalon A1041 Review Post by: NotFuzzyWarm on July 10, 2021, 08:06:46 PM Sure. These for example (https://www.mcmaster.com/nema-6-20-receptacles/type~receptacle/) Your local hardware store, Home Depot, etc. should have them.
Key point is you need to have 208-240v ran to it. Is the circuit already 208-240VAC? And if it is, why the hell did the electrician put in a NEMA 5-xx socket rated for only 110V? That is a blatant code violation... Not so much from a direct risk of fire from the higher voltage but rather because it allows someone to plug devices made for only 110v into it which would have very bad consequences. |
