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Title: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: lm2f on March 14, 2014, 06:04:57 AM
Bitcoin offered free, anonymous money that held the promise of freeing us from the tyranny that stems from state issued and state mandated currencies.

And it failed. It failed because in the end most people didn't want to use and accept it in commerce to liberate themselves from the chains of state issued currency. What people wanted was not to use bit coins to buy and sell, but instead to buy hoard and sell the bitcoins themselves in hopes of getting rich.

It failed because, at our core, none of us really wanted freedom, and privacy in our economic transactions, all we wanted was speculations and more money.

Bitcoin is proof once again that people don't care about liberty, they care about wealth. And they will always sacrifice liberty for money.

The failure of bitcoin rests in it's fundamental belief that people wanted to be free. People don't want to be free, they want fast cars, big houses, and easy money.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: r0ach on March 14, 2014, 06:09:01 AM
^propaganda account with 0 posts, but nice try though

edit: oh woops, you have 50 posts and every one of them is complaining about Bitcoin saying it's crap, using reasons that would also make fiat money crap or worse lol.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: bountygiver on March 14, 2014, 06:11:25 AM
most of the time, I felt what loki said in the avengers is true. Humans are meant to be ruled.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: corebob on March 14, 2014, 06:11:31 AM
Thats true enough.

But don't be surprised if poor and corrupted countries picks up the remains and start using it as a currency, and not just as a speculative object.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: HorseCoin on March 14, 2014, 06:28:23 AM
why?  whY/  tell them that it's human nature


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: LostDutchman on March 14, 2014, 06:32:12 AM
Bitcoin offered free, anonymous money that held the promise of freeing us from the tyranny that stems from state issued and state mandated currencies.

And it failed. It failed because in the end most people didn't want to use and accept it in commerce to liberate themselves from the chains of state issued currency. What people wanted was not to use bit coins to buy and sell, but instead to buy hoard and sell the bitcoins themselves in hopes of getting rich.

It failed because, at our core, none of us really wanted freedom, and privacy in our economic transactions, all we wanted was speculations and more money.

Bitcoin is proof once again that people don't care about liberty, they care about wealth. And they will always sacrifice liberty for money.

The failure of bitcoin rests in it's fundamental belief that people wanted to be free. People don't want to be free, they want fast cars, big houses, and easy money.


Not to put too fine a point on things but horseshit.

My $.02.

;)


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: bananas on March 14, 2014, 06:35:42 AM
It also failed that everyone turned potential scammers, seriously WTF ?


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: Beef Supreme on March 14, 2014, 01:17:50 PM
most of the time, I felt what loki said in the avengers is true. Humans are meant to be ruled.

BS.  I hate taking orders, and despise someone trying to "lead me," especially when I haven't asked or needed to be led.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: b!z on March 14, 2014, 01:20:28 PM
What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature:

Humans are greedy.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: RodeoX on March 14, 2014, 01:22:13 PM
In a world where everything considered valuable is denominated..., money is freedom.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: practicaldreamer on March 14, 2014, 01:22:35 PM
People don't want to be free..

Still, it might be nice to have the choice hey ?

Lets wait and see  ;).


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: IrishFutbol on March 14, 2014, 01:26:37 PM
It's a cycle.

1. People want freedom.
2. Regulations are done away with.
3. Someone abuses the lack of regulations.
4. People want regulations.
5. Regulations are added.
6. Regulations start to restrict the lives of citizens and businesses.
1. People want freedom.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: kokojie on March 14, 2014, 01:38:38 PM
Shit, Bitcoin failed? why didn't I get the memo?


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: yenom on March 14, 2014, 01:58:39 PM
Shit, Bitcoin failed? why didn't I get the memo?

You didn't get the email from the CEO? Check your Spam folder.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: kireinaha on March 14, 2014, 04:18:33 PM
What? People acting in their own self interests? Why, I never....!


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: Beliathon on March 14, 2014, 04:25:38 PM
most of the time, I felt what loki said in the avengers is true. Humans are meant to be ruled.
We most certainly are not.

And we won't be for much longer.

Consider looking to deeper sources of philosophy than Hollywood movies.



Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: bountygiver on March 14, 2014, 04:47:36 PM
most of the time, I felt what loki said in the avengers is true. Humans are meant to be ruled.
We most certainly are not.

And we won't be for much longer.

Consider looking to deeper sources of philosophy than Hollywood movies.



Just a line is not going to change my opinion, I already got such opinion long before the movie and I just want to say that I agree with that and it's a very popular movie :/


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: jonald_fyookball on March 14, 2014, 05:26:44 PM
Bitcoin offered free, anonymous money that held the promise of freeing us from the tyranny that stems from state issued and state mandated currencies.

And it failed. It failed because in the end most people didn't want to use and accept it in commerce to liberate themselves from the chains of state issued currency. What people wanted was not to use bit coins to buy and sell, but instead to buy hoard and sell the bitcoins themselves in hopes of getting rich.

It failed because, at our core, none of us really wanted freedom, and privacy in our economic transactions, all we wanted was speculations and more money.

Bitcoin is proof once again that people don't care about liberty, they care about wealth. And they will always sacrifice liberty for money.

The failure of bitcoin rests in it's fundamental belief that people wanted to be free. People don't want to be free, they want fast cars, big houses, and easy money.


Wrong on so many levels... 

For one thing, bitcoin doesn't rest on any such belief.  In fact, it counts on greed to secure the network as miners compete to solve the blocks. 


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: ThirdRenaissance on March 14, 2014, 05:37:07 PM
Guys, it's over, you may go home now. You heard it here first.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: fran2k on March 14, 2014, 07:06:30 PM
Bitcoin offered free, anonymous money that held the promise of freeing us from the tyranny that stems from state issued and state mandated currencies.

And it failed. It failed because in the end most people didn't want to use and accept it in commerce to liberate themselves from the chains of state issued currency. What people wanted was not to use bit coins to buy and sell, but instead to buy hoard and sell the bitcoins themselves in hopes of getting rich.

It failed because, at our core, none of us really wanted freedom, and privacy in our economic transactions, all we wanted was speculations and more money.

Bitcoin is proof once again that people don't care about liberty, they care about wealth. And they will always sacrifice liberty for money.

The failure of bitcoin rests in it's fundamental belief that people wanted to be free. People don't want to be free, they want fast cars, big houses, and easy money.


Easy money = Quit my job, be free and live the life as a crypto dandy.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: LostDutchman on March 15, 2014, 12:47:40 AM


Quote

Easy money = Quit my job, be free and live the life as a crypto dandy.

Nothing wrong with that!

My $.02.

;)


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: Bit_Happy on March 15, 2014, 02:42:46 AM
Without speculators the old-timers would still be buying their Friday night pizza for 10,000 BTC each.

Bitcoin offered free, anonymous money that held the promise of freeing us from the tyranny that stems from state issued and state mandated currencies.

And it failed. It failed because in the end most people didn't want to use and accept it in commerce to liberate themselves from the chains of state issued currency. What people wanted was not to use bit coins to buy and sell, but instead to buy hoard and sell the bitcoins themselves in hopes of getting rich.

It failed because, at our core, none of us really wanted freedom, and privacy in our economic transactions, all we wanted was speculations and more money.

Bitcoin is proof once again that people don't care about liberty, they care about wealth. And they will always sacrifice liberty for money.

The failure of bitcoin rests in it's fundamental belief that people wanted to be free. People don't want to be free, they want fast cars, big houses, and easy money.


ps. BTC didn't fail, it is a huge, unfinished success story.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: Nathonas on March 15, 2014, 04:10:25 AM
Fiat developed over thousands of years. Bitcoin has had five. How can you declare it as a failure? Especially when every day, more and more merchants accept it, and it is engrained in our society more and more. Sure, the average joe might still see it as a "ponzi scheme" or whatever uneducated opinion. But it's getting traction and more people are finding out about it. It's also overcome and continues to overcome countless problems, both technical and social (like all the scams, the Mt.Gox failure, the hacks, etc).


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: Gladdy on March 15, 2014, 04:35:09 AM
Pump and dump and people are greedy !


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: Light on March 15, 2014, 04:41:54 AM
What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature:

Humans are greedy.

I think most of us already realised that humanity is greedy and selfish, BTC is just another case in point.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: Bit_Happy on March 15, 2014, 06:13:09 AM
BTC is a great story and it is not just about greed.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: bbulker on March 15, 2014, 10:36:58 AM
User: lm2f
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Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: ashapasa on March 15, 2014, 05:32:27 PM
Bitcoin offered free, anonymous money that held the promise of freeing us from the tyranny that stems from state issued and state mandated currencies.

And it failed. It failed because in the end most people didn't want to use and accept it in commerce to liberate themselves from the chains of state issued currency. What people wanted was not to use bit coins to buy and sell, but instead to buy hoard and sell the bitcoins themselves in hopes of getting rich.

It failed because, at our core, none of us really wanted freedom, and privacy in our economic transactions, all we wanted was speculations and more money.

Bitcoin is proof once again that people don't care about liberty, they care about wealth. And they will always sacrifice liberty for money.

The failure of bitcoin rests in it's fundamental belief that people wanted to be free. People don't want to be free, they want fast cars, big houses, and easy money.


People just want to be happy  :o . For a few its liberty for other its money.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: ns12123 on March 15, 2014, 06:48:34 PM
i laughed so much on this !


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: Carl Quesadilla on March 15, 2014, 06:52:03 PM
what i believe is true.

i believe i have a dark matter generator in my computer   :D


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: Beliathon on March 15, 2014, 06:54:50 PM
Bitcoin has taught us NOTHING about human nature.

We humans do not exist in nature, and we haven't for about 10,000 years.

Homo Sapiens in nature behave like Bonobo chimpanzees, not the virus / parasite / cancer that "civilized" humans are.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: AnonyMint on March 15, 2014, 07:13:13 PM
Half of the population is dumber than 100 IQ, i.e. basically retarded.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: Beliathon on March 15, 2014, 07:15:26 PM
Half of the population is dumber than 100 IQ, i.e. basically retarded.
The problem isn't stupid people, the problem selfish, ignorant, cruel people.

The problem is the sociopaths who run our world, and most of them are actually very intelligent.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: S4VV4S on March 15, 2014, 07:33:21 PM
Bitcoin offered free, anonymous money that held the promise of freeing us from the tyranny that stems from state issued and state mandated currencies.

And it failed. It failed because in the end most people didn't want to use and accept it in commerce to liberate themselves from the chains of state issued currency. What people wanted was not to use bit coins to buy and sell, but instead to buy hoard and sell the bitcoins themselves in hopes of getting rich.

It failed because, at our core, none of us really wanted freedom, and privacy in our economic transactions, all we wanted was speculations and more money.

Bitcoin is proof once again that people don't care about liberty, they care about wealth. And they will always sacrifice liberty for money.

The failure of bitcoin rests in it's fundamental belief that people wanted to be free. People don't want to be free, they want fast cars, big houses, and easy money.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFDe5kUUyT0

Now go away!


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: AnonyMint on March 15, 2014, 09:09:39 PM
Bitcoin offered free, anonymous money that held the promise of freeing us from the tyranny that stems from state issued and state mandated currencies.

And it failed. It failed because in the end most people didn't want to use and accept it in commerce to liberate themselves from the chains of state issued currency. What people wanted was not to use bit coins to buy and sell, but instead to buy hoard and sell the bitcoins themselves in hopes of getting rich.

It failed because, at our core, none of us really wanted freedom, and privacy in our economic transactions, all we wanted was speculations and more money.

Bitcoin is proof once again that people don't care about liberty, they care about wealth. And they will always sacrifice liberty for money.

The failure of bitcoin rests in it's fundamental belief that people wanted to be free. People don't want to be free, they want fast cars, big houses, and easy money.

+1

Also add this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=455141.msg5716065#msg5716065

I believe there is only one feature that can make crypto-currency so different from fiat that it will spawn all sorts of new applications which fiat can't do.

And that feature is ANONYMITY. And Bitcoin can't have it. And DarkCoin doesn't have it.


Half of the population is dumber than 100 IQ, i.e. basically retarded.
The problem isn't stupid people, the problem selfish, ignorant, cruel people.

The problem is the sociopaths who run our world, and most of them are actually very intelligent.

And they are too stupid to do anything about it.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: jonald_fyookball on March 15, 2014, 09:11:34 PM
I'm asking the moderators to stop anonymint from constantly linking to his self serving thread, as it is against the posted forum rules.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: AnonyMint on March 15, 2014, 09:14:13 PM
I'm asking the moderators to stop anonymint from constantly linking to his self serving thread, as it is against the posted forum rules.

I have the right to inject factual information.

You want to inhibit factual discussion. You are a rabid Rottweiler stalking me every where I post. And I don't even post in 5% of the threads.

I will report you for stalking. That is a crime.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: bitcoinbranches on March 15, 2014, 09:18:56 PM
Let's not jump to conclusions, it just shows us that some people take time to recognize innovative new technology that is disruptive can actually change the status quo for the better.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: AnonyMint on March 15, 2014, 09:23:28 PM
Let's not jump to conclusions, it just shows us that some people take time to recognize innovative new technology that is disruptive can actually change the status quo for the better.

So you think the masses are going to rise up and say "99% versus 1%, so let's dump our credit cards and use Bitcoin"?

I could see that possibly happening AFTER the global economic collapse that should start to collapse in 2016.

So maybe by about 2017 or 2018, they might start to make that transition in understanding. Right now, they are boiling frogs still in wonderland.

But by 2017 or 2018 it will be kind of too late. An anonymous coin will have already taken over because the wealthy are going to need an anonymous coin to avoid the massive government confiscation coming as the economy implodes.

jonald_fyookball?  ::)


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: practicaldreamer on March 15, 2014, 09:31:14 PM
I'm asking the moderators to stop anonymint from constantly linking to his self serving thread, as it is against the posted forum rules.

I have the right to inject factual information.

You want to inhibit factual discussion. You are a rabid Rottweiler stalking me every where I post. And I don't even post in 5% of the threads.

I will report you for stalking. That is a crime.


Report me while you are at it - cos I too am sick of your endless bollocks.

WTF is a man who believes BTC to be flawed/not up to the job etc. doing on BitcoinTalk ? Trying to help save us all from ourselves ?

You aren't a genius - and you aren't bringing anything to the table.

Start up another forum - call it "WhyIknowBetter.org" - live happily ever after. Post to your hearts content.

Cos at the minute you are single handedly trashing this forum.



Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: Bit_Happy on March 15, 2014, 09:32:10 PM
... 2017 or 2018 it will be kind of too late. An anonymous coin will have already taken over because the wealthy are going to need an anonymous coin to avoid the massive government confiscation coming as the economy implodes.


Beware of fake "anonymous coin" with back doors.  :o


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: jonald_fyookball on March 15, 2014, 09:46:34 PM
I'm asking the moderators to stop anonymint from constantly linking to his self serving thread, as it is against the posted forum rules.

I have the right to inject factual information.

You want to inhibit factual discussion. You are a rabid Rottweiler stalking me every where I post. And I don't even post in 5% of the threads.

I will report you for stalking. That is a crime.


Report me while you are at it - cos I too am sick of your endless bollocks.

WTF is a man who believes BTC to be flawed/not up to the job etc. doing on BitcoinTalk ? Trying to help save us all from ourselves ?

You aren't a genius - and you aren't bringing anything to the table.

Start up another forum - call it "WhyIknowBetter.org" - live happily ever after. Post to your hearts content.

Cos at the minute you are single handedly trashing this forum.



Moderators take note.  The poster called anonymint continues to promote his own thread and link to it
from numerous other threads, much to the annoyance of the community, and in clear violation of the "do not post off topic replies" rule stated here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14356.0


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: CurbsideProphet on March 15, 2014, 10:26:55 PM
Bitcoin offered free, anonymous money that held the promise of freeing us from the tyranny that stems from state issued and state mandated currencies.

And it failed. It failed because in the end most people didn't want to use and accept it in commerce to liberate themselves from the chains of state issued currency. What people wanted was not to use bit coins to buy and sell, but instead to buy hoard and sell the bitcoins themselves in hopes of getting rich.

It failed because, at our core, none of us really wanted freedom, and privacy in our economic transactions, all we wanted was speculations and more money.

Bitcoin is proof once again that people don't care about liberty, they care about wealth. And they will always sacrifice liberty for money.

The failure of bitcoin rests in it's fundamental belief that people wanted to be free. People don't want to be free, they want fast cars, big houses, and easy money.


A technology still in its infancy shouldn't be called a failure.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: S4VV4S on March 15, 2014, 11:35:15 PM
Let's not jump to conclusions, it just shows us that some people take time to recognize innovative new technology that is disruptive can actually change the status quo for the better.

So you think the masses are going to rise up and say "99% versus 1%, so let's dump our credit cards and use Bitcoin"?

I could see that possibly happening AFTER the global economic collapse that should start to collapse in 2016.

So maybe by about 2017 or 2018, they might start to make that transition in understanding. Right now, they are boiling frogs still in wonderland.

But by 2017 or 2018 it will be kind of too late. An anonymous coin will have already taken over because the wealthy are going to need an anonymous coin to avoid the massive government confiscation coming as the economy implodes.

jonald_fyookball?  ::)


Yes they will at some point, because their credit card is not "working" anymore.
Please stop hijacking threads.
Once again, WE DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY.


Title: Re: What Bitcoin Has Taught Us About Human Nature
Post by: AnonyMint on March 16, 2014, 07:35:21 AM
Yes they will at some point, because their credit card is not "working" anymore.

Agreed, but this will come too late for Bitcoin:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=455141.msg5723957#msg5723957