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Title: Blockchain for voting
Post by: marksandtoday on June 06, 2019, 06:23:17 AM
Does any country use blockchain for election or voting? I know there are many countries who afraid of implementing blockchain into its sytem because then everything will be clear. If voting systems are created on the basis of blockchain technologies, then it is possible and possible to obtain reliable voting results without falsification. All the same, the blockchain is precisely created so that it cannot be changed from the outside, and in order to ensure complete security and confidentiality of data. It would be interesting to participate in the elections via the online voting platform.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: MakeMoneyBtc on June 06, 2019, 06:33:03 AM
The only place were I've heard something about Blockchain voting is in a TV series called ,, Billions'' where a governor wanted to implement this so that vote can't be manipulated anymore. I've never seen or read any news I'm the real life about a country thinking about implementing Blockchain in their election system and that's probably because most governments are corrupt and they know if that gets approved they can't manipulate the voting system anymore in their favor.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Adriano2010 on June 06, 2019, 08:03:45 AM
As i know no, there is not any country who use blockchain for voting, maybe only if governments will see how blockchain works will make this possible on future if they want.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: CryptoBry on June 06, 2019, 08:03:57 AM
Does any country use blockchain for election or voting? I know there are many countries who afraid of implementing blockchain into its sytem because then everything will be clear. If voting systems are created on the basis of blockchain technologies, then it is possible and possible to obtain reliable voting results without falsification. All the same, the blockchain is precisely created so that it cannot be changed from the outside, and in order to ensure complete security and confidentiality of data. It would be interesting to participate in the elections via the online voting platform.

So far I have never heard any country who implemented the blockchain technology in their electoral process. Actually, this is one of the best areas that the blockchain technology can help but of course I doubt if many countries will adopt this within the next decade as transparency in practice is something that they don't want to happen. One day, though, am sure that this can be the standard in all elections as more and more people are clamoring and demanding a better system where their voice can be heard and counted correctly with almost nil opportunity of intrusion and hacking. Let's hope some big organizations can adopt a blockchain-supported election system so that we can see it in action.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: YuginKadoya on June 06, 2019, 08:47:27 AM
https://medium.com/coinbundle/using-blockchain-for-voting-3287817291dc

I guess I have seen an article about blockchain voting and apparently I don't know which country but I think it is possible to have such thing may happen to apply for voting, And even though I don't see any proof that it can be possible I guess this article is a great explanation in how they can do it, And as the election now in the Philippines has been settled peacefully I have seen a video that may push blockchain technology on the next election, Well it is still in progress but I guess this can be another good sign for our crypto community and the security of cheats on voting here in the Philippines.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: franky1 on June 06, 2019, 08:50:45 AM
because government elections only occur 1 day every 4-5 years. governments dont really have many chances to actually use blockchains for real.

governments are researching blockchains and other distributed ledger technologies(DLT: centralised blockchains) but they are still working on the main issue of how to disperse out the tokens used for a vote. as thats the stumbling point.

counting/auditing th votes is easy. but its getting the vote out to the population where people cant just for instance:
sell their private keys on blackmarkets to activists groups that buy votes.
someone accesses a relatives phone to steal their vote

its why although annoying, polling stations exist instead of just having everyone use a phone app. because physically turning up is a psychological tactic to vote scammers for not wanting to be caught double voting

yes there is technology available  to identify people and only accredit one-vote-one-face. but generally people are against needing to identify themselves when voting.
but as i said its not the blockchain part thats the stumbling point, but the distribution of votes ethically


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Ibizugbe1 on June 06, 2019, 09:11:03 AM
I once got a news flash that blockchain voting was tested in Sierra Leone, I doubt it was later use. This should be implemented in Nigeria whose leaders are known for notoriously rigging election, this will bring fast development to a country so blessed with natural resources and brilliant men and women but been plagued by few election riggers. 


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Baofeng on June 06, 2019, 09:24:38 AM
We had a good discussions on this thread, Blockchain technology in election polls (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5077188.0). So I urge you to look at that thread and lock this one if possible, thanks.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: ManoPrimitiva on June 06, 2019, 10:41:58 AM
Some countries have already run trials, it is a delicate subject and blockchain technology as any other new technology must be tested and since voting doesn't happen that often, I believe it will take some time before we see it as a reality. Check these articles about the trial in Switzerland and the plans in Japan to do so:

  • http://fortune.com/2018/07/03/blockchain-voting-trial-zug/
  • https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/09/03/japan-city-blockchain-voting/


In practice, the main issue will be the proof of identity, because even when the national id number can be use to identify the voter in the blockchain, there is no guarantee it will be used by the real citizen. If polls happen in a typical way, going to a physical place, then a standard procedure may be used to id a person, representative will check the official valid ID and then the voter can scan it in a device and vote on a screen instead of paper; if the polls are run on devices, such as personal computers or smartphones, some sort of biometrics recognition system must be used.

And then there is the politicians will... I believe all of them cheat, so, to authorize this technology is like shooting in their own foot.



Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Haunebu on June 06, 2019, 11:07:20 AM
And then there is the politicians will... I believe all of them cheat, so, to authorize this technology is like shooting in their own foot.
Exactly. Even if such a system were to become successful at some point in the future, why in the world would politicians want to harm their own profits by legalizing something like this? It just doesn't make any sense.

They are manipulating the current systems already which is why a blockchain based voting system will never see the light unless the politicians are actually not corrupt which is impossible in my opinion.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: jushfln on June 06, 2019, 11:09:13 AM
I agree with the statement that electronic voting would then be more secure if we use the blockchain's capabilities. But do not forget that most people are not familiar with these technologies. Of course, if you use training platforms like taklimakan to start training people in the country, you can achieve a smooth transition to a fully e-government. But for this you need the very policy of the country to make it so that it is benevolent to cryptocurrency and blockchain


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: borrorofju on June 06, 2019, 11:11:21 AM
The lack of education in the field of application of new technologies in my opinion is the biggest problem. And if we do not begin to change the educational system in the direction of modern requirements, we will continue to go to the polls with leaflets, and the teenagers will continue to evade their duties to vote.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: quarkfx on June 06, 2019, 11:12:14 AM
blockchain based voting system will be very good I would like to see that soon many govt will not like to implement it , developed country should start blockchain voting system


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Genemind on June 06, 2019, 11:13:14 AM
I haven't heard of any country who have used or involved blockchain in their election. The government will surely not allow it. In our country, we're still doing elections the usual and old way without any electronic device involved to avoid cheating.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: MonsterV on June 06, 2019, 12:01:27 PM
So far, it seems that no country has implemented blockchain elections. Yes, although in my opinion this is a pretty good innovation, the lack of understanding among the public is a limitation for the government to implement this electoral system.

Actually it's been implemented as far as I know:

[1]Switzerland's “Crypto Valley” Successfully Completes Blockchain Voting Trial (https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/switzerlands-crypto-valley-successfully-completes-blockchain-voting-trial//)

[2]Japanese City Trials Blockchain Voting for Social Development Programs (https://www.coindesk.com/japanese-city-trials-blockchain-voting-for-social-development-programs)

[3]Sierra Leone Uses Blockchain To Track Election Results (https://cointelegraph.com/news/sierra-leone-uses-blockchain-to-track-election-results-swiss-company-provides-expertise)

[4]US: West Virginia Completes First Blockchain-Supported State Elections  (https://cointelegraph.com/news/us-west-virginia-completes-first-blockchain-supported-state-elections)



Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Nadziratel on June 06, 2019, 12:01:40 PM
Does any country use blockchain for election or voting? I know there are many countries who afraid of implementing blockchain into its sytem because then everything will be clear. If voting systems are created on the basis of blockchain technologies, then it is possible and possible to obtain reliable voting results without falsification. All the same, the blockchain is precisely created so that it cannot be changed from the outside, and in order to ensure complete security and confidentiality of data. It would be interesting to participate in the elections via the online voting platform.

I don't think we're not ready for that yet. Even the 51% attack problem could not be solved. I think it needs to be more widespread first.

But there is a project about it. I'm sure you've heard of Ncash in Binance. One period had experienced major problems. One of the next stages of this project was the democratic elections to be held in the countries.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: maianh09 on June 06, 2019, 12:27:42 PM
Does any country use blockchain for election or voting? I know there are many countries who afraid of implementing blockchain into its sytem because then everything will be clear. If voting systems are created on the basis of blockchain technologies, then it is possible and possible to obtain reliable voting results without falsification. All the same, the blockchain is precisely created so that it cannot be changed from the outside, and in order to ensure complete security and confidentiality of data. It would be interesting to participate in the elections via the online voting platform.
The Philippines is a leader in using the Blockchain platform to vote. Using the Blockchain platform restricts fraudulent censorship checks, and everyone in the country can check the number of votes they have chosen. Blockchain reduces censorship time and votes statistics for each participant. Many countries will use Blockchain to vote.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: boyptc on June 06, 2019, 01:27:34 PM
So far, I haven't heard a country that's looking to try blockchain for their election. Someone quoted above that there's already some that are testing it.

But if the gov't is corrupt and understands that blockchain will make the election transparent, what do you think they'll do?


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: sehoon on June 06, 2019, 01:48:52 PM
Firstly, I don't know any countries that implement blockchain technology in their voting system and they still prefer bad companies like Smartmatic. And there are a lot of problems when it comes to the voting system of our country. They say that blockchain can stop tampering of information but it won't solve problems. But I think blockchain can lessen some of the big problems in these voting systems.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: xWolfx on June 06, 2019, 02:44:57 PM
Firstly, I don't know any countries that implement blockchain technology in their voting system and they still prefer bad companies like Smartmatic. And there are a lot of problems when it comes to the voting system of our country. They say that blockchain can stop tampering of information but it won't solve problems. But I think blockchain can lessen some of the big problems in these voting systems.

Ikr. Especially when that company was funded from the dirty money and deals Chavez made in Venezuela.

I mean, it just showed into my head. Why are we still going towards a place to vote, when it can easily be done at home with the right technology and right security?

Is it too crazy to think that if the world is advancing, politics should advance too? - Blockchain could definitely change everything in that aspect.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: qwk on June 06, 2019, 02:49:42 PM
If voting systems are created on the basis of blockchain technologies, then it is possible and possible to obtain reliable voting results without falsification.
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/voting_software.png
https://xkcd.com/2030/


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: indrakusumaindra on June 06, 2019, 03:18:34 PM
Does any country use blockchain for election or voting? I know there are many countries who afraid of implementing blockchain into its sytem because then everything will be clear. If voting systems are created on the basis of blockchain technologies, then it is possible and possible to obtain reliable voting results without falsification. All the same, the blockchain is precisely created so that it cannot be changed from the outside, and in order to ensure complete security and confidentiality of data. It would be interesting to participate in the elections via the online voting platform.
It would be good and i do think this system is really needed in every voting system. It would be easier to calculate and it would be harder to manipulate so i do think its more transparant and more faster. I do think this is really good for my country indonesia, which is the election become major problem here cause some people think the election has been cheated and they not trust the results.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: uneng on June 06, 2019, 03:28:12 PM
Blockchain could be used as an extra guarantee to assure the correct results. But I think the vote has to be presential. If we want to avoid manipulation there couldn't be people voting through apps from anywhere, this way there will be always a possibility of fraud and then there is no reason to use blockchain.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Yaunfitda on June 06, 2019, 04:01:17 PM
Firstly, I don't know any countries that implement blockchain technology in their voting system and they still prefer bad companies like Smartmatic. And there are a lot of problems when it comes to the voting system of our country. They say that blockchain can stop tampering of information but it won't solve problems. But I think blockchain can lessen some of the big problems in these voting systems.

I guess we need to look at how the infrastructure is being set-up in your country. I don't know how many times your country has been using this services, but it seems they need to be replace by someone so that these kind of problems will be eliminated.

I'm all in for blockchain to be used in election, as long as the government is prepared and not just because they just wanted to ride the hype around this technology, specially developing countries.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: uneng on June 06, 2019, 04:14:42 PM
Blockchain could be used as an extra guarantee to assure the correct results. But I think the vote has to be presential. If we want to avoid manipulation there couldn't be people voting through apps from anywhere, this way there will be always a possibility of fraud and then there is no reason to use blockchain.
No, polling will always have to take place under third party eyes and constraints. Online or remote voting via apps is shit, mail in ballots are sketchy enough to me.
Wasn't that what I said? ::)
People need to vote on the spot to prevent fraud.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: joinfree on June 06, 2019, 04:16:47 PM
Currently there is no country that has developed a sytem based on blockchain technology for national voting but i have read about some countries using mobile applications to vote within institutions and other smaller countries. Even though these countries have plans on using this technology to perform national voting i think it's going to be a herculean task looking at all the negativity towards blockchain technology.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Naida_BR on June 06, 2019, 05:13:58 PM
Does any country use blockchain for election or voting? I know there are many countries who afraid of implementing blockchain into its sytem because then everything will be clear. If voting systems are created on the basis of blockchain technologies, then it is possible and possible to obtain reliable voting results without falsification. All the same, the blockchain is precisely created so that it cannot be changed from the outside, and in order to ensure complete security and confidentiality of data. It would be interesting to participate in the elections via the online voting platform.

i don't think that there would be any country that will allow their citizens to vote via a decentralized platform.
They don't want transparency apparently so they will try to hide the process as much as they can. My question is when this voting will take place in the blockchain, what makes the nodes to be trusted?


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: b3llsf1l3s on June 06, 2019, 05:18:14 PM
Does any country use blockchain for election or voting? I know there are many countries who afraid of implementing blockchain into its sytem because then everything will be clear. If voting systems are created on the basis of blockchain technologies, then it is possible and possible to obtain reliable voting results without falsification. All the same, the blockchain is precisely created so that it cannot be changed from the outside, and in order to ensure complete security and confidentiality of data. It would be interesting to participate in the elections via the online voting platform.

No, i've never seen any country use this for their election, maybe they won't even use it, you know it's not that politics is hard. maybe it should be admitted that election requires transparency but the blockchain is not a solution to various problems. If any government know how transparency blockchain is, they wouldn't recommend this to the election. They afraid not being elected again.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Theb on June 06, 2019, 05:34:48 PM
So far the only known country to have officially used blockchain technology to its election is Thailand (https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/thailand-uses-blockchain-supported-electronic-voting-system-primaries), however this isn't tested in the general election but through a party election for their democratic party. The election was reportedly to be successful and there were no faults found with the system. Now I am seeing news that they will implement this next with their general elections, the bad thing about this is I've been seeing news that they'll be allowing home voting for their citizens which I think will be the biggest fault in the system in terms of transparency. Even if they implement a trusty blockchain based voting system but they can't monitor and facilitate the voters their new system will be useless, I won't sacrifice security for convenience for the fairness of the election.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: dothebeats on June 06, 2019, 06:09:48 PM
On a full-blown election, I don't think that there are countries with blockchain-ready systems to accommodate an election so big. Perhaps on mock elections and small-scale elections the tech could be used, but I can't imagine it being used on a national scale so much that the fate of the whole country is rested upon. Perhaps they can only use this on the counting and transmitting of votes but not on the actual voting per se, as most citizens would surely be confused for the first time if a country is to shift its voting process overnight.

So far the only known country to have officially used blockchain technology to its election is Thailand (https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/thailand-uses-blockchain-supported-electronic-voting-system-primaries), however this isn't tested in the general election but through a party election for their democratic party. The election was reportedly to be successful and there were no faults found with the system. Now I am seeing news that they will implement this next with their general elections, the bad thing about this is I've been seeing news that they'll be allowing home voting for their citizens which I think will be the biggest fault in the system in terms of transparency. Even if they implement a trusty blockchain based voting system but they can't monitor and facilitate the voters their new system will be useless, I won't sacrifice security for convenience for the fairness of the election.

What I'm interested in is how would they develop the blockchain to handle stress, especially during the transmission of votes and the counting of votes as well.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: jhongzjhong on June 06, 2019, 09:01:09 PM
Honestly, I used to pursue and convince people that blockchain is really the answer/solution to this major problem in politics. Blockchain technology is really the best opportunity to make election safe, secure and accurate. However, ignorance always wins against innovation and possibilities. They are keeping their minds close and wanted their egos to dominate and that is the reason why we are losing with these fights.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: kaya11 on June 06, 2019, 09:20:59 PM
The only place were I've heard something about Blockchain voting is in a TV series called ,, Billions'' where a governor wanted to implement this so that vote can't be manipulated anymore. I've never seen or read any news I'm the real life about a country thinking about implementing Blockchain in their election system and that's probably because most governments are corrupt and they know if that gets approved they can't manipulate the voting system anymore in their favor.

So there is none really, maybe because if they did such they could be overthrown in their position. I see how powerful is Blockchain being used in a voting season. Especially places where vote buying and ghost voters are rampant like here in our country. Imagine people who have already died long years ago does vote, how come?


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: nydiacaskey01 on June 06, 2019, 10:56:10 PM
I think no company has tried to use Blockchain technology in their vote counting machines. It woukd be a nice project however, imagine that it will be used only if there are elections and elections dont happen every year or every other year so I guess they would rather stick to what they have right now.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Ucy on June 06, 2019, 11:16:33 PM
There were several news in the past about some countries introducing blockchain voting, most turned out to be false.
It'd be surprising if any government accepts public blockchain voting ... not with private blockchain nor other secretive stuff.
 The technology is possible but none ever discusses it


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: yusupjatigumilar on June 07, 2019, 01:27:03 AM
It is indeed very good and suitable to be applied to voting activities to determine the number of votes, of course this is very necessary for election activities that require high integrity in vote counting, with blockchain technology that is transparent and cannot be manipulated we can run elections with high integrity and quality


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Pumared on June 07, 2019, 01:37:37 AM
Does any country use blockchain for election or voting? I know there are many countries who afraid of implementing blockchain into its sytem because then everything will be clear. If voting systems are created on the basis of blockchain technologies, then it is possible and possible to obtain reliable voting results without falsification. All the same, the blockchain is precisely created so that it cannot be changed from the outside, and in order to ensure complete security and confidentiality of data. It would be interesting to participate in the elections via the online voting platform.


If you search Kenya, if I'm not mistaken, you used a vote through Blockchain. But, cryptos like Decred and others have been doing this for a long time.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: jakelyson on June 07, 2019, 02:06:36 AM
I would love to see this implemented in our country but I think there are some constraints that will allow the use of blockchain for elections. Like there should be secrecy on a person's vote. If we use blockchain, everything can be seen in the blockchain. Then there are concerns for tx fees and confirmation time because there will be influx on transactions on the day of the election.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: DaddyMonsi on June 07, 2019, 02:56:41 AM
Sounds like a good idea however, correct me if I am wrong on my understand, using Blockchain technology in voting would make voting reliant on internet and continuous supply of electricity. Without this two (internet and electricity) does that mean voting or elections will be postponed? Does that also mean anyone with access to this two can sabotage the elections or voting process.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: BL46K 7193R on June 07, 2019, 08:57:19 AM
I have not heard that there is a country where use blockchain for voting. I have not heard any news that it has been done in any country. Yes may be in the future, but till now I know that nothing has happened and if someone knows something like this, then share it.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Apes on June 07, 2019, 12:21:54 PM
using the blockchain system as a vote app, I've heard this idea but so far I don't know anyone has implemented it. which I know the government has an vote application and there are independent parties who also do calculations. both calculations are not integrated and are only used as a correction tool. actually if integrated it can be said as a mini blockchain network.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: XFlowZion on June 07, 2019, 12:58:36 PM
Some countries have already run trials, it is a delicate subject and blockchain technology as any other new technology must be tested and since voting doesn't happen that often, I believe it will take some time before we see it as a reality. Check these articles about the trial in Switzerland and the plans in Japan to do so:

  • http://fortune.com/2018/07/03/blockchain-voting-trial-zug/
  • https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/09/03/japan-city-blockchain-voting/


In practice, the main issue will be the proof of identity, because even when the national id number can be use to identify the voter in the blockchain, there is no guarantee it will be used by the real citizen. If polls happen in a typical way, going to a physical place, then a standard procedure may be used to id a person, representative will check the official valid ID and then the voter can scan it in a device and vote on a screen instead of paper; if the polls are run on devices, such as personal computers or smartphones, some sort of biometrics recognition system must be used.

And then there is the politicians will... I believe all of them cheat, so, to authorize this technology is like shooting in their own foot.



Voting on devices like smartphones or computers will raise a lot of questions and the elections' integrity. Blockchain is very useful but people will still prefer to see themselves vote physically there with the officials ensuring they are real people listed in the designated precinct. In my country, people still don't trust automated elections entirely so I'm sure that blockchain system will sort that out.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Rufsilf on June 08, 2019, 03:06:20 PM
As i know no, there is not any country who use blockchain for voting, maybe only if governments will see how blockchain works will make this possible on future if they want.

Based on what I read here in the forum, blockchain could be a good system for voting though it wasn't tested yet and proven to have work properly if we use it in voting. But I doubt it if the government will recommend bitcoin to be used in voting since most people in the government is against blockchain.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: TahuDiniHari on June 08, 2019, 04:05:21 PM
That is a breakthrough, if there is a country implementing a general election or presidential election with a blockchain system, that is a very good innovation. I think the budget or financial expenditure of a country will be more economical. I had heard that Estonia had implemented it (online voting). Large populated countries, such as Indonesia, deserve to implement a blockchain-based online voting system.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: ghost424 on June 08, 2019, 04:06:19 PM
Does any country use blockchain for election or voting? I know there are many countries who afraid of implementing blockchain into its sytem because then everything will be clear. If voting systems are created on the basis of blockchain technologies, then it is possible and possible to obtain reliable voting results without falsification. All the same, the blockchain is precisely created so that it cannot be changed from the outside, and in order to ensure complete security and confidentiality of data. It would be interesting to participate in the elections via the online voting platform.

Using a Decentralized Voting system might show a transparent yet safe way of voting. Present technologies on third world countries like their voting systems might lead to Corruption. Voting systems should be at least one of the most high-end technology in a country and should have the best quality of components that is used. Machines in some countries are easily broken and manipulated due to corrupt politicians that wants to win so bad. Having a Decentralized System can help us keep track of every voting that has happened and the security of this systems are very high.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Ryan Dugan on June 08, 2019, 11:45:02 PM
Some countries have already run trials, it is a delicate subject and blockchain technology as any other new technology must be tested and since voting doesn't happen that often, I believe it will take some time before we see it as a reality. Check these articles about the trial in Switzerland and the plans in Japan to do so:

  • http://fortune.com/2018/07/03/blockchain-voting-trial-zug/
  • https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/09/03/japan-city-blockchain-voting/


In practice, the main issue will be the proof of identity, because even when the national id number can be use to identify the voter in the blockchain, there is no guarantee it will be used by the real citizen. If polls happen in a typical way, going to a physical place, then a standard procedure may be used to id a person, representative will check the official valid ID and then the voter can scan it in a device and vote on a screen instead of paper; if the polls are run on devices, such as personal computers or smartphones, some sort of biometrics recognition system must be used.

And then there is the politicians will... I believe all of them cheat, so, to authorize this technology is like shooting in their own foot.



Voting on devices like smartphones or computers will raise a lot of questions and the elections' integrity. Blockchain is very useful but people will still prefer to see themselves vote physically there with the officials ensuring they are real people listed in the designated precinct. In my country, people still don't trust automated elections entirely so I'm sure that blockchain system will sort that out.

You can still physically go there. You can have a voting machine like a btc ATM but for voting. I also agree doing it from any location online might not work. People will prefer to do it in person. Also in person it is under suraliance and offials are around. Also the vote will be done through an official machine not just anyones phone.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: jake zyrus on June 09, 2019, 12:09:07 PM
Does any country use blockchain for election or voting? I know there are many countries who afraid of implementing blockchain into its sytem because then everything will be clear. If voting systems are created on the basis of blockchain technologies, then it is possible and possible to obtain reliable voting results without falsification. All the same, the blockchain is precisely created so that it cannot be changed from the outside, and in order to ensure complete security and confidentiality of data. It would be interesting to participate in the elections via the online voting platform.
Nope. That's why in my country, you already won't expect for a clean election and voting. They will still win the election even though they already have bad records. Using blockchain is definitely a great thing but my country is slow when it comes to advancement of technology.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: bekkioPEK on June 09, 2019, 12:21:49 PM
in the future the blockchain could really be an excellent economic solution for voting. it would also be very safe and fast, there are many obstacles, such as the previous generation that is not very familiar with technology. but with some modifications it could really be the best solution


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Pumared on June 09, 2019, 01:34:39 PM
Because it is a new technology, the chances of being used at the national level, such as in an election of a country, are low. If it is used it will be at a lower level, as in an election at a university and so on.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: angrybird3591 on June 11, 2019, 02:31:48 AM
I think no company has tried to use Blockchain technology in their vote counting machines. It woukd be a nice project however, imagine that it will be used only if there are elections and elections dont happen every year or every other year so I guess they would rather stick to what they have right now.
Definitely not. But the issue in the elections of fake accounts is generated a lot with the information provided by ico houses. blockchan has not yet found an election, but using blockchan to manipulate elections will be available. because they bought user information and mail from ico projects


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: prehisto on June 11, 2019, 10:31:30 AM
Does any country use blockchain for election or voting? I know there are many countries who afraid of implementing blockchain into its sytem because then everything will be clear. If voting systems are created on the basis of blockchain technologies, then it is possible and possible to obtain reliable voting results without falsification. All the same, the blockchain is precisely created so that it cannot be changed from the outside, and in order to ensure complete security and confidentiality of data. It would be interesting to participate in the elections via the online voting platform.

At the moment there is no ( as far as I know) countries who have implemented any electronic elections so far, because of the security fears.
Block-chain could be a solution but first it should be implemented in private sectors.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Schirer on June 11, 2019, 11:32:13 AM
The idea is not bad, but i believe that we are far from seeing real world elections based on blockchain . If done properly, this could be a major win because it will also allow faster elections and maybe open doors to more referendums ecasue they would be a lot cheapaer and easier to make.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: princesspoppy on June 11, 2019, 12:41:25 PM
Does any country use blockchain for election or voting? I know there are many countries who afraid of implementing blockchain into its sytem because then everything will be clear. If voting systems are created on the basis of blockchain technologies, then it is possible and possible to obtain reliable voting results without falsification. All the same, the blockchain is precisely created so that it cannot be changed from the outside, and in order to ensure complete security and confidentiality of data. It would be interesting to participate in the elections via the online voting platform.
The Philippines is a leader in using the Blockchain platform to vote. Using the Blockchain platform restricts fraudulent censorship checks, and everyone in the country can check the number of votes they have chosen. Blockchain reduces censorship time and votes statistics for each participant. Many countries will use Blockchain to vote.
There are lots of people manipulating and tampering votes in the Philippines. Blockchain technology will be great to stop these things from happening. All the votes will be recorded and all people can see its results, no one can manipulate and tamper the results but, this will also be the reason why the government will not allow it. The people in the government here in the Philippines wants to control the voting system in order to get into the position they wanted, and with the blockchain technology, they will not be able to do that. That is why I think, it will not be implemented here. If ever it will, that person really wants a change in this country.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Mike Mayor on June 12, 2019, 05:54:43 AM
Does any country use blockchain for election or voting? I know there are many countries who afraid of implementing blockchain into its sytem because then everything will be clear. If voting systems are created on the basis of blockchain technologies, then it is possible and possible to obtain reliable voting results without falsification. All the same, the blockchain is precisely created so that it cannot be changed from the outside, and in order to ensure complete security and confidentiality of data. It would be interesting to participate in the elections via the online voting platform.
The Philippines is a leader in using the Blockchain platform to vote. Using the Blockchain platform restricts fraudulent censorship checks, and everyone in the country can check the number of votes they have chosen. Blockchain reduces censorship time and votes statistics for each participant. Many countries will use Blockchain to vote.
There are lots of people manipulating and tampering votes in the Philippines. Blockchain technology will be great to stop these things from happening. All the votes will be recorded and all people can see its results, no one can manipulate and tamper the results but, this will also be the reason why the government will not allow it. The people in the government here in the Philippines wants to control the voting system in order to get into the position they wanted, and with the blockchain technology, they will not be able to do that. That is why I think, it will not be implemented here. If ever it will, that person really wants a change in this country.

They need it in like African countries. People say ya but it will cost too much, not really. It is much cheaper than having to set up voting areas and pay for the pages required for each voter then still deliver and count them. Afterwards, you are left with a whole bunch of useless paper. It only gets used once. If we do it digitally this problem is solved and thus the price goes down too. No need to count manually so this saves much manpower and even more money. Not to talk about the security the blockchain provides us.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: samputin on June 12, 2019, 08:32:24 AM
I haven't heard any country applying blockchain for elections. Maybe the lack of knowledge with the technology is the primary reason. I think it would be cool, though, if it would be put into application. However, it should be independent from corrupt officials. I mean, it should be put into good use for the betterment of all.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: bristlefront on June 12, 2019, 09:25:19 AM
I think the government distrust the blockchain's usage since there are still fraud in election that they are keep doing it like it was fixed. The cost is not a deal since there are funds for elections and I think the commission should make the best out of the money but I think they are just buying cheap election materials for them to keep some funds and the fixing will not be exposed. I hope some greater countries implement it so there will be no choice for some corrupt government officials to fix the election again.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Pumared on June 12, 2019, 06:59:20 PM
I haven't heard any country applying blockchain for elections. Maybe the lack of knowledge with the technology is the primary reason. I think it would be cool, though, if it would be put into application. However, it should be independent from corrupt officials. I mean, it should be put into good use for the betterment of all.


As it is a new and complicated technology, countries are not even thinking about it yet. But in small projects, which is a start for greater usability, the blockchain is already used as a form of voting.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: muratsink on June 12, 2019, 11:01:54 PM
of course it will be better, but the popularity of BTC for record every important event is still low.  and I did not find a country that uses blockchain for voting. 
and at least we have to use two blockchain.  the first blockchain to record election participant data, and the second blockchain to record the results of the election.  we see that the blockchain has also been used to record the Panmunjom declaration agreement.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Cuk0ng_bitc0in on June 12, 2019, 11:10:18 PM
not only for voting, blockchain has great benefits for government order, the blockchain can minimize corruption, crime, and is very good for the state security department.  It seems like Japan has used the blockchain to vote.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: rdbase on June 13, 2019, 12:04:11 AM
I dont think there are any countries which are even coming close to using blockchain technology 100% to cast their votes. They just dont trust it to risk their own counties political landscape as of yet.
Maybe Japan as someone mentioned they were doing trial runs. But that is what those are just trial runs and not the real thing yet. Maybe for small municipalities at first but not for a major countries election for a presidential government official.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: cahbagus555 on June 13, 2019, 01:19:26 AM
I dont think there are any countries which are even coming close to using blockchain technology 100% to cast their votes. They just dont trust it to risk their own counties political landscape as of yet.
Maybe Japan as someone mentioned they were doing trial runs. But that is what those are just trial runs and not the real thing yet. Maybe for small municipalities at first but not for a major countries election for a presidential government official.

When its about politics, i think everything getting harder. Blockchain technology should can be solution because its very secure and hard to hack, but most politician always make thing become complicated


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Dreamchaser21 on June 13, 2019, 01:53:21 AM
I highly doubt blockchain technology will be used for voting on the third world countries. I hate to say that but governments are not there for help and they are bigger than any threat against the current development of bitcoin.
Its hard to be used because of the corrupt politicians they will block this propaganda for the sake of their power. Imaging having a clean election is very rare especially in a developing country. Blockchain technology will never be part of the voting system, they have to look for a way to cheat it so let's not think about that.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: TimeBits on June 13, 2019, 01:55:26 AM
Does any country use blockchain for election or voting? I know there are many countries who afraid of implementing blockchain into its sytem because then everything will be clear. If voting systems are created on the basis of blockchain technologies, then it is possible and possible to obtain reliable voting results without falsification. All the same, the blockchain is precisely created so that it cannot be changed from the outside, and in order to ensure complete security and confidentiality of data. It would be interesting to participate in the elections via the online voting platform.

I used it in my country Canada, I no long have a leader, I just vote on issues now, not vote people to vote for me, who do the reverse of what they say after they get in office.

https://i.imgur.com/haz02ll.png

I been self representing myself since 2016


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Pumared on June 13, 2019, 07:17:34 PM
I highly doubt blockchain technology will be used for voting on the third world countries. I hate to say that but governments are not there for help and they are bigger than any threat against the current development of bitcoin.
Its hard to be used because of the corrupt politicians they will block this propaganda for the sake of their power. Imaging having a clean election is very rare especially in a developing country. Blockchain technology will never be part of the voting system, they have to look for a way to cheat it so let's not think about that.

In the short term I also do not believe in a vote using blockchain. But in the long run we have every chance for a cleaner vote.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: oseikuf44 on June 13, 2019, 07:26:48 PM
Not yet, Blockchain for voting hasn't been adopted by any country but there are online and electronic voting system that make fair election results. Blockchain for voting will be accurate for countries that normally dispute election results as found in Africa and other developing nations.


Title: Re: Blockchain for voting
Post by: Pumared on June 15, 2019, 03:11:32 AM
Not yet, Blockchain for voting hasn't been adopted by any country but there are online and electronic voting system that make fair election results. Blockchain for voting will be accurate for countries that normally dispute election results as found in Africa and other developing nations.


Yes, using blockchain for elections specifically is like using a sword to cut a loaf of bread. There are less robust solutions that require less logistics.