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Title: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: thd26bct on June 16, 2019, 03:49:53 PM
Overview on Trust, Flag of Bitcoin-based casinos/ dice sites' owners

Please note that I list those sites in alphabetical order.


Established
|
Casino
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Opened
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Owner
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Owner's year registered
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Ann Thread
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Trust
     |
Flag
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|Bitsler (https://www.bitsler.com/)|2015|Baryom (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=684606)|2015|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1268718.0)|+6 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|Bitvest (https://bitvest.io/)|2015|lightlord (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=30541)|2011|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1268718.0)|+2 / =1 / -0      |No   |
|BitDice (https://www.bitdice.me/)|2014|dogedice.me (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=238641)|2014|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1700658.0)|+1 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|bustadice (https://bustadice.com/)|2017|devans (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=935622)|2016|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2219681.0)|+4 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|BitcoinRush (https://www.bitcoinrush.io/casino/)|2013|casinobitco (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=37924)|2011|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=228243.0)|+1 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|BitcoinVideoCasino (https://bitcoinvideocasino.com/videopoker)|2012|BitcoinVideoPoker (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=74635)|2012|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=130242.0)|+2 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|BitcoinCasino.com (https://www.bitcoincasino.com/)|2019|Bitcoincasinocom (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2573714)|2019|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146645.0)|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|Bitdouble (https://bitdouble.io/)|2016|BitDouble.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=875910)|2016|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1609928.0)|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|bitkong.com (https://bitkong.com)|2015|Bitkong.me (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=569305)|2015|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1214505.0)|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|betchain.com (https://www.betchain.com/)|2014|BetChain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=229528)|2014|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=486491.0)|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|betcoin.ag (https://www.betcoin.ag/)|2016|Betcoin.AG (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=202115)|2013|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616139)|+1 / =0 / -5      |No   |
|bethash.io (https://bethash.io/)|2019|Parodium * (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1162397)|2017|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129963.0)|+2 / =1 / -0      |No   |
|betking.io (https://betking.io)|2019|BetKing.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=565024)|2015|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5119013.0)|!!!: +2 / =2 / -9      |Yes   |
|betbtc.co (https://www.betbtc.co/)|2014|BetBTC (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=253453)|2014|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=856175.0)|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|Bit-Exo (https://bit-exo.com/)|2016|Bit-Exo.com (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=764113)|2016|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1359320.0)|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|Buff.bet (https://buff.bet/)|2018|eGoldgg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1208890)|2017|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3309139.0)|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|Bitgame (https://bitgame.online/)|2017|BitGame777 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=940437)|2017|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3397865.0)|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|CloudBet (https://cbet.ly/2KdIraF)|2013|Cloudbet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=154563)|2013|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=333552.0)|+4 / =4 / -0      |No   |
|CoinRoyale (https://coinroyale.com/)|2013|victorhing (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=151862)|2013|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=301480.0)|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|Crypto-Games (https://www.crypto-games.net/)|2014|DogecoinMachine (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=329629)|2014|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=750760.0)|+13 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|duckdice.io (https://duckdice.io)|2016|DuckDice.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=917361)|2016|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1676313.0)|+0 / =0 / -8      |No   |
|FortuneJack (https://fortunejack.com/)|2014|FortuneJack (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=303298)|2014|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774929.0)|+6 / =3 / -0      |No   |
|freebitco.in (https://freebitco.in/)|2013|wetsuit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=154142)|2013|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=320959.0)|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|JETWIN (https://www.jetwin.com/en-us)|2013|BOOKMAKER (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=174244)|2013|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355484.0)|+0 / =1 / -0      |No   |
|KingDice (https://kingdice.com/#/welcome)|2016|wetsuit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=154142)|2013|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1637134.0)|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|matchbillion.com (https://www.matchbillion.com/)|2019|matchbillion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2538327)|2019|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118755.0)|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|Nitrogensports (https://nitrogensports.eu/)|2012|NitrogenSports (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=88706)|2014|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=355081.0)|+0 / =0 / -4      |No   |
|OneHash (https://www.onehash.com/)|2015|OneHash (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=449925)|2015|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=960158.0)|+1 / =1 / -0      |No   |
|PlayBitcoinGames (https://www.playbitcoingames.com/)|2018|DomingoX6 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=548604)|2015|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1889843.0)|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|PlayBetr (https://www.playbetr.com/)|2019|PlayBetr (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=562960)|2015|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100533.0)|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|PrimeDice (https://primedice.com/)|2013|Stunna (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=81292)|2013|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=208986.0)|+26 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|SafeDice.com (https://safedice.com)|2014|SafeDice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=396610)|2018|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=868275.0)|!!!: +0 / =0 / -2      |Yes   |
|Sportsbet.io (https://sportsbet.io/casino/popular-games)|2016|sportsbet.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=832366)|2016|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458034.0)|+4 / =1 / -2      |No   |
|Stake (https://stake.com/)|2017|Stunna (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=81292)|2016|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2072589.0)|+26 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|swcpoker.eu (https://swcpoker.eu/)|2015|SwC_Poker (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=510223)|2015|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5068812.0)|+1 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|TrustDice (https://trustdice.win)|2019|Coinbox1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2569866)|2019|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5126117.0)|+0 / =1 / -0      |No   |
|WinRateCasino.eu (https://winrate.eu/)|2019|WinRateCasino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2541130)|2019|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5113889.0)|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|YOLOdice (https://yolodice.com/)|2016|ethan_nx (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=917344)|2016|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1674772.0)|+1 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|777coin (https://777coin.com/)|2013|lightlord (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=30541)|2011|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=238323.0)|+2 / =1 / -0      |No   |

 
This topic is in progress.
- *: Not the owner, created thread on behalf of site's owner.
- Flag notes:
  • Yes: Active flag (s)
  • Yes: Inactive flag (s)
  • No: No flag
- Trust or Flag are not only components to judge reliability of a casino. Those indicators are references that you should combine with other things to assess one casino/ dice site.
- Please remember to read details of Trust or Flag; and ANN threads.


There are some other oveview topics on gambling sites:
Overview of Active Casino/Dice Sites Accepting BTC (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4832500.0)
[Overview of all bitcoin casinos] Latest update: 14-03-19 VISIT NEW WEBSITE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2097255.0)
Overview of Bitcoin Accepting Sportsbooks (with margin/house edge comparisons) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5040737.0)


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: Haunebu on June 17, 2019, 06:37:18 AM
Never heard of Safedice before and I don't have any interest in checking it our after seeing the red trust against it. I know majority of the sites in your list and I can safely say that they are some of the best business based on my research.

Seems like the sites like Primedice and Stake which are backed by Stunna have the highest trust ratings and am not surprised considering how popular both these sites are. Very useful list for newbies.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on June 17, 2019, 06:40:01 AM
Never heard of Safedice before
According to the flag (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=30) on SafeDice, the admin is rumored to be in jail, and the site is running on autopilot with the hot wallet not being topped off.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: thd26bct on June 17, 2019, 06:45:03 AM
Never heard of Safedice before and I don't have any interest in checking it our after seeing the red trust against it.
I created the topic, mostly for newbies, whom are lack of knowledge on casinos/ dice sites to help them have overview on such sites, and avoid losing money on bad sites. SafeDice, in reality, is the first site was flagged. More interestingly, flagged by the head admin, @theymos ;D
SafeDice has the honor of being the first to get an active scammer flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=396610


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: adaseb on June 17, 2019, 06:59:12 AM
This list is good however people should still do their due diligence and read the official gambling thread here on Bitcointalk to be up to date with the latest issues, you can't read all the pages but you should read at least the first post and the last couple of pages.

Safedice does have a red flag, but the red flag was added recently and it actually was having withdraw issues for an entire year (or longer even).

There are also many numerious sites not listed which are all red flagged and are proven scams. And the easiest way is to simply read the thread. Because usually the red trust is added way too late before more people get ripped off in the meantime.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: thd26bct on June 17, 2019, 07:01:59 AM
There are also many numerious sites not listed which are all red flagged and are proven scams.
I know, and the list is in progress. Please note that I list those sites in alphabetical order.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: panjul07 on June 17, 2019, 07:15:48 AM
There are some information that needs to be revised such as:
1. Kingdice owner is not Kingdice anymore since it was bought by wetsuit (owner of freebitcoin). Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1637134.msg20064003#msg20064003
2. Owner/Admin of Bitsler can be replaced by Baryom (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=684606) which is more active in the forum.
3. SWCpoker is not opened in 2018, 2018 is just the new version/update to 3.0 of SWCpoker. I'm not quite sure when it was opened for the first time but it can be earlier than other sites as they were formerly known as Sealswithclub.



Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: thd26bct on June 17, 2019, 11:04:42 AM
I am so thankful for your help, @panjul07. I will check them all and edit OP later (I am on mobile for now).


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: Coinbox1 on June 17, 2019, 11:09:39 AM
It's a little sad that Trust Dice game is not in this list of Trusted betting games.

Any chance to be in the list in the future?  ;)
Official thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5126117.0)


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: thd26bct on June 17, 2019, 02:28:44 PM
Any chance to be in the list in the future?  ;)
Official thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5126117.0)
Added your site into the list. Thank you.

Edited the first two. However, I am not sure about SwCPoker, so I will search more about SwCPoker.
1. Kingdice owner is not Kingdice anymore since it was bought by wetsuit (owner of freebitcoin). Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1637134.msg20064003#msg20064003
2. Owner/Admin of Bitsler can be replaced by Baryom (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=684606) which is more active in the forum.
3. SWCpoker is not opened in 2018, 2018 is just the new version/update to 3.0 of SWCpoker. I'm not quite sure when it was opened for the first time but it can be earlier than other sites as they were formerly known as Sealswithclub.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: el kaka22 on June 17, 2019, 02:43:56 PM
This could be moved to gambling discussion if you ask me since its basically talking about the trust ratings of casino owners and not even remotely related to the casinos itself since the owner could be a lot worse than the company itself but the casino would have their own bitcointalk account we see here (like many of them) whereas owner would have their different anon account we wouldn't know about.

These are the accounts of casinos that we rank between themselves not the owners accounts most of the time, yeah Stunna is there and wetsuit is there but when it comes to casinos official accounts I feel like there is a disadvantage. Plus it takes years to exist in this market and make a name for yourself and then become known by even the big names and get them to trust you so the ones that are older in the scene have an advantage.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: poordeveloper on June 17, 2019, 05:39:55 PM
There are some information that needs to be revised such as:
1. Kingdice owner is not Kingdice anymore since it was bought by wetsuit (owner of freebitcoin). Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1637134.msg20064003#msg20064003
2. Owner/Admin of Bitsler can be replaced by Baryom (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=684606) which is more active in the forum.
3. SWCpoker is not opened in 2018, 2018 is just the new version/update to 3.0 of SWCpoker. I'm not quite sure when it was opened for the first time but it can be earlier than other sites as they were formerly known as Sealswithclub.


Didn't know wetsuit bought KingDice. Hadn't really tested it, will register now.

And yes, I recall playing on SealsWithClubs ages ago. 2011 maybe? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40077.0


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: carlfebz2 on June 17, 2019, 09:25:39 PM
Seems like Betking do have all the fancy trust rating out there. haha
This could be moved to gambling discussion if you ask me since its basically talking about the trust ratings of casino owners
Second on this one.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: thd26bct on June 18, 2019, 02:01:53 AM
I got answer from SwCPoker team, and updated OP.
SwC Poker was launched in 2015. Some of our new players mark the November 2018 launch of our Bitcoin Poker 3.0 platform as the start date because of the large improvements made to the system and the increased traffic since that date.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: RivAngE on June 18, 2019, 10:22:24 AM
wow Bitvest and 777coin are so old, about 8 years of action!
I wonder why do they have so little trust score though, even though they are proven to be safe and trusted.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: leea-1334 on June 18, 2019, 10:27:58 AM
Interesting to see that some of the sites I trust a lot have much lower score than the sites I do not trust. I do not want to mention names here but one big site there no longer has negative flags even though they used to scam (proven) in the past. I guess new management took over and we forgave them?

Also one listing there has so many trust ratings but their members are quite spammy:) Maybe it should be the Trust rating of the official account, not the owner?


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: poordeveloper on June 18, 2019, 02:50:35 PM
wow Bitvest and 777coin are so old, about 8 years of action!
I wonder why do they have so little trust score though, even though they are proven to be safe and trusted.
Some of them are more widely promoted than others, so people have had more chances to have a look at them.

But I also noticed many of the good ones on this list missing positive trust.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: poordeveloper on June 18, 2019, 10:21:44 PM
Anyone had experience with Cloudbet? Its admin has quite positive trust ratings.

I wasn't convinced last time I had a look at them. However it seems they've passed the test of time.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: Joel_Jantsen on June 18, 2019, 11:39:14 PM
Anyone had experience with Cloudbet? Its admin has quite positive trust ratings.
I had seen several bad reviews about them. There are a few scam accusations opened against in the recent months. My trust ratings show them as untrustworthy.
 
I wasn't convinced last time I had a look at them. However it seems they've passed the test of time.
Doesn't mean they're gonna be the same with everyone or their previous accusations are void. I'd still consider them shady unless they solve their open scam accusations.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: thd26bct on June 19, 2019, 03:16:08 AM
Anyone had experience with Cloudbet? Its admin has quite positive trust ratings.
Recently, there are complaints on Cloudbet due to their recently restrictions on US-users. They said such restrictions implemented on their platform due to US law, and I understood why they did it. By the way, I would prefer to remind that, for Cloudbet, and other sites, Trust, Flags are only one of things to consider about their credibility and reliability before using their platforms. I already emphasized it in OP.
- Trust or Flag are not only components to judge reliability of a casino. Those indicators are references that you should combine with other things to assess one casino/ dice site.
- Please remember to read details of Trust or Flag; and ANN threads.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: milewilda on June 19, 2019, 06:49:24 AM
wow Bitvest and 777coin are so old, about 8 years of action!
I wonder why do they have so little trust score though, even though they are proven to be safe and trusted.
Forum trust ratings doesnt really matter too much even its just small or on big numbers as long you do see that community does support
and recommend them then its already an enough thing for you to watch on.There are other new sites on the list i do saw which being included,
so far i havent test them out.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: hd49728 on June 19, 2019, 07:37:04 AM
Forum trust ratings doesnt really matter too much even its just small or on big numbers as long you do see that community does support
and recommend them then its already an enough thing for you to watch on.There are other new sites on the list i do saw which being included,
so far i havent test them out.
Longevity of sites makes sense. If a site survives well over years, get positive trust, and good feedbacks, it somehow means it is a good, and reliable site. However, it does not mean that such sites won't turn into worse ones, or in worst cases scam sites with scam exits. Site's owners might be changed hands, or even original owners can changed to different people (worse ones). Therefore, all those things, trust, feedbacks, longevity, flags are supplemental things to consider, and not determinant ones. In contrast, it does not mean that new born sites are bad sites, every site, even Bitvest, 777coin, Bitsler, Bitdice have to start from scratch.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: milewilda on June 19, 2019, 09:23:56 AM
Forum trust ratings doesnt really matter too much even its just small or on big numbers as long you do see that community does support
and recommend them then its already an enough thing for you to watch on.There are other new sites on the list i do saw which being included,
so far i havent test them out.
Longevity of sites makes sense. If a site survives well over years, get positive trust, and good feedbacks, it somehow means it is a good, and reliable site. However, it does not mean that such sites won't turn into worse ones, or in worst cases scam sites with scam exits. Site's owners might be changed hands, or even original owners can changed to different people (worse ones). Therefore, all those things, trust, feedbacks, longevity, flags are supplemental things to consider, and not determinant ones. In contrast, it does not mean that new born sites are bad sites, every site, even Bitvest, 777coin, Bitsler, Bitdice have to start from scratch.
Everything or Anything do really starts from scratch.I do get your point and theres no need to elaborate more about longevity or legitimacy yet we do have our own decision.Sorry everyone if this turns out to be a derailing discussion.  ;)


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: game-protect on June 19, 2019, 09:41:04 AM
Things are changing quick and the best thing players can do is still playing with consumer protection service inclusive. :)


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: The Cryptovator on June 19, 2019, 02:36:41 PM
Good job OP, and obviously this is a creative idea. Gamblers could determine easily who is best from their positive ratings on the forum. At least this list will help whoever use this forum/section. Because I believe whoever got negative feedback's from DT's there is some reason. So new gamblers would know it from this rating list.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: Timelord2067 on June 19, 2019, 04:18:32 PM
Please support the Flags against

DirectBet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=207436) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=76 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=92

and

DirectDice (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=366939) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=93

Thanks for reading.



Are the trust scores based on your own trust settings, or, are they obtained using the ;dt at the end of the web address?


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: leea-1334 on June 19, 2019, 05:33:19 PM
Anyone had experience with Cloudbet? Its admin has quite positive trust ratings.

I wasn't convinced last time I had a look at them. However it seems they've passed the test of time.

They have some bad trust in the past but I guess now this is already buried in the past and they have improved their reputation lately. Their admin recently also sponsored a competition I was participating in last season (for the English premier league football prediction competition 2018/2019) so of course I will say good things about them :)


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: TimeTeller on June 19, 2019, 08:34:45 PM
This is a great reference list for all dice lovers here.
At quick glance, you know which one is to be avoided.
But for the benefit of the doubt, a player can always look and read the details on their  respective threads.
Also, if the OP can add another column regarding existence of gaming/gambling license -yes /no?
If you have spare time to look at it and we can always add info to your list. Thanks.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: Twinkledoe on June 19, 2019, 09:03:27 PM
Wow! I am so proud that Bitvest is one of the oldest casino sites listed. Lightlord might be doing great in maintaining the popularity of bitvest & 777coin, with 2 of the  longest running campaigns here in the forum. And day by day, there will be new dice site created. Only the tough ones will prevail from all of them.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: thd26bct on June 20, 2019, 03:23:07 AM
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Are the trust scores based on your own trust settings, or, are they obtained using the ;dt at the end of the web address?
Thank you. I added DirectBet.eu to the list, with inactive flag status.

For Trust score, I use default Trust scores I saw with my account, that has not own trust lists. I think that it is what all users, whom don't customize their Trust list, will see.

Additionally, I updated OP with clarification on active and inactive flag (s).
- Flag notes:
  • Yes: Active flag (s)
  • Yes: Inactive flag (s)
  • No: No flag


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: DoublerHunter on June 20, 2019, 04:21:31 AM
~snip~
Good job OP, You've been summarized the view of all gambling site here in the gambling industry related to crypto. I just know it here that Nitrogensports gambling site is the oldest site and still running until now on this forum.
I hope there is also a view on every gambling sites about their service not only having flags by owner because there are some still in good service even the owners had received negative flag status.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: kryptqnick on June 20, 2019, 11:18:50 AM
Never heard of Safedice before and I don't have any interest in checking it our after seeing the red trust against it.
I created the topic, mostly for newbies, whom are lack of knowledge on casinos/ dice sites to help them have overview on such sites, and avoid losing money on bad sites.
It's a great initiative! I am always paying attention to trust rates of the representatives of the casinos before telling someone about a casino or deciding whether to gamble there. Of course, sometimes a small red trust might be disputable when the case is not resolved, but it's not clear whether the casino actually did something wrong (for instance, when people don't get their winnings after breaking some rules). And a very trusted casino is not a 100% guarantee of scam-free experience, but at least there's a good chance that the casino will try to resolve the matter peacefully and in the manner that satisfies both sides. Good luck and a merit from me.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: panjul07 on June 20, 2019, 04:38:04 PM
Thank you. I added DirectBet.eu to the list, with inactive flag status.

Since you have just added Directbet to the list while the site is not active anymore, does it mean that you will add all inactive gambling sites? Or do you have specific criteria for inactive sites that can be added to the list? Sorry for asking, because there are so many dead/closed sites since the beginning era of bitcoin/crypto gambling industry. If you are going to add all those inactive sites then you should explore this gambling board that has more than 200 pages :)


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: Ucy on June 20, 2019, 05:00:38 PM
Nice one!
This probably doesn't reflect the true reputations but it is worth using.

Stake and Freebitco scores are kind of surprising. Didn't know stake has been in gambling for a while.

This thread will be useful. .
Hope it doesn't lead to trust buying though.
Good job.

Bookmarked


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: kingpin4321 on June 20, 2019, 06:15:56 PM
Very helpful information I haven't really checked their trust flag level but this is quite comprehensive although the trust flag can change.
Well I think very noticeable sites owners has good trust level and the questionable once has what they deserve. Good work OP


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: thd26bct on June 21, 2019, 01:17:03 AM
Since you have just added Directbet to the list while the site is not active anymore, does it mean that you will add all inactive gambling sites? Or do you have specific criteria for inactive sites that can be added to the list? Sorry for asking, because there are so many dead/closed sites since the beginning era of bitcoin/crypto gambling industry. If you are going to add all those inactive sites then you should explore this gambling board that has more than 200 pages :)
Oops. It is my mistakes to not carefully check it. Yes, my intention is providing basics of active casinos, not inactive ones. Delisted!


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: GreatArkansas on June 21, 2019, 05:14:52 AM
Oops. It is my mistakes to not carefully check it. Yes, my intention is providing basics of active casinos, not inactive ones. Delisted!
How can you define an active casino website?

You should check the Sportstbet.io (https://sportsbet.io), because they have also casino (https://sportsbet.io/casino/popular-games), not only for sports.

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtAv1hOR.png&t=602&c=Jf6eXvfguO8Gzg


I would also like to suggest adding transaction fees/withdrawal fees for every withdrawal (if free/not free) of the website.

Btw, you did a great job compiling most of casino/dice websites.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: thd26bct on June 21, 2019, 07:28:15 AM
You should check the Sportstbet.io (https://sportsbet.io), because they have also casino (https://sportsbet.io/casino/popular-games), not only for sports.
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I would also like to suggest adding transaction fees/withdrawal fees for every withdrawal (if free/not free) of the website.
Thank you, Great Arkansas. I already added casino page of Sportsbet.io into OP. Your suggestion on fees will not be added into OP, at least for now. Because I think if someone have interests on one site, they will discover further things, like fees by themselves.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: LimLims on June 21, 2019, 09:00:26 AM
Nice one!
This probably doesn't reflect the true reputations but it is worth using.

Stake and Freebitco scores are kind of surprising. Didn't know stake has been in gambling for a while.

This thread will be useful. .
Hope it doesn't lead to trust buying though.
Good job.

Bookmarked


This does reply,  how much trustworthy a particular site is.
If someone creates a scam accusation thread against any popular site and if it is proved that the casino is guilty of it,  then the DTs are fast enough to leave negative trust to the site's owner profile.

And as far as Stake and Freebitcoin sites are concerned,  they are ruling the Gambling world since many years. So normally they will have gopd reputation.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: GreatArkansas on June 21, 2019, 09:38:33 AM
You should check the Sportstbet.io (https://sportsbet.io), because they have also casino (https://sportsbet.io/casino/popular-games), not only for sports.
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Thank you, Great Arkansas. I already added casino page of Sportsbet.io into OP.

Thanks for adding Sportsbet.io, but I noticed that you made some mistake in the official post,
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Casino
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Opened
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Owner
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Owner's year registered
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Ann Thread
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Trust
     |
Flag
  |
|Sportsbet.io (https://sportsbet.io/casino/popular-games)|2016|sportsbet.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=832366)|2016|Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1458034.0)|+4 / =1 / -2      |Yes   |

It seems that sportsbet.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=832366) has no any active FLAG.
As I can see on the profile, no active flags.
https://i.imgur.com/o7BC0pd.png


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: thd26bct on June 21, 2019, 12:12:51 PM
Thanks for adding Sportsbet.io, but I noticed that you made some mistake in the official post,
Ok, I fixed it. Flags will be displayed with # or !!!. So, if you look at Trust score, it is very easily to know that I made a mistake in the table. Thank you so much.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: dark08 on June 21, 2019, 01:39:43 PM
Thanks for sharing now we can easily know those trusted online casino/dice owner  but this is not a true based to know the real status of trusted & scam site but I guest this will help gambler to pick a good one I will wait for more update maybe next time the withdrawal fee will include in the list to know which site offer a lower fee.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: omonuyak on June 21, 2019, 05:08:24 PM
Thanks for sharing now we can easily know those trusted online casino/dice owner  but this is not a true based to know the real status of trusted & scam site but I guest this will help gambler to pick a good one I will wait for more update maybe next time the withdrawal fee will include in the list to know which site offer a lower fee.
He has really did a very nice job by compiling and researching on the owners of the gambling sites, we are familiar with here. There are many gambling owners that this is the first time I  knowing the owners by name and this thread is really educative to me. We have known about their "trust flags" it will be good if we know about their country of origin, the worth of the gambling sites and the risk and reward in each of the sites. This will enable some of us the gamblers to easily makes informed decisions.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: anntlevel on June 22, 2019, 09:40:36 AM
What's wrong with these ones that has no trust rating at all? Do you think they should be trusted or not, or are they still noobs and no one has tried them out yet? Bitsler is a good dice site and Bitvest as well, though it's been a long time I last tried playing dice game in any of these sites. I have decided to take a break from gambling since these things are not really working out for him. It doesn't make any sense earning money and throwing them away for gambling sites. It's better that I am saving those money instead of gambling them out and losing them.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: adzino on June 22, 2019, 02:11:24 PM
What's wrong with these ones that has no trust rating at all? Do you think they should be trusted or not, or are they still noobs and no one has tried them out yet? Bitsler is a good dice site and Bitvest as well, though it's been a long time I last tried playing dice game in any of these sites. I have decided to take a break from gambling since these things are not really working out for him. It doesn't make any sense earning money and throwing them away for gambling sites. It's better that I am saving those money instead of gambling them out and losing them.
Those trust numbers you see are the profit trust. Casino owners with no trust does not mean that they are scamming people or anything. But, still its your call. You can trust them at your own risk. It is just that casinos owners with positive trust rating has very low chance of scamming you.
Anyways, owners of crypto-games.net are DogecoinMachine and Joter85 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=245755) if you didn't know that.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: Twinkledoe on June 22, 2019, 08:43:55 PM
What's wrong with these ones that has no trust rating at all? Do you think they should be trusted or not, or are they still noobs and no one has tried them out yet? Bitsler is a good dice site and Bitvest as well, though it's been a long time I last tried playing dice game in any of these sites. I have decided to take a break from gambling since these things are not really working out for him. It doesn't make any sense earning money and throwing them away for gambling sites. It's better that I am saving those money instead of gambling them out and losing them.
Those trust numbers you see are the profit trust. Casino owners with no trust does not mean that they are scamming people or anything. But, still its your call. You can trust them at your own risk. It is just that casinos owners with positive trust rating has very low chance of scamming you.
Anyways, owners of crypto-games.net are DogecoinMachine and Joter85 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=245755) if you didn't know that.

Yes, the trust rating doesn't automatically translates to the image of the dice site. We need to remember that not all satisfied customers are giving their feedback on their btctalk account. The list is very helpful for noobs here but one way of understanding them deeply is to play with them and explore the features offered to their clients.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: thd26bct on June 23, 2019, 12:03:33 AM
Yes, the trust rating doesn't automatically translates to the image of the dice site. We need to remember that not all satisfied customers are giving their feedback on their btctalk account. The list is very helpful for noobs here but one way of understanding them deeply is to play with them and explore the features offered to their clients.
I emphasized it in OP.
- Trust or Flag are not only components to judge reliability of a casino. Those indicators are references that you should combine with other things to assess one casino/ dice site.
- Please remember to read details of Trust or Flag; and ANN threads.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: The Cryptovator on June 23, 2019, 07:30:13 AM
It seems that sportsbet.io (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=832366) has no any active FLAG.
As I can see on the profile, no active flags.
Yes, its seems to me as well due limit of flag duration. There is a duration of newbies red flag and it will removed after a time span.
- I added "These warning banners will disappear when you have 7 days of login time. You should familiarize yourself with the trust system before then." to the newbie warning banner. Note BTW that it usually takes months for someone to get 7 days of login time: among all 4096 users with 6.5 to 7.5 days login time, the account age (lastLogin-dateRegistered) is: maximum 3216 days, minimum 7.5, median 677, average 936.
If I understand correctly, after 7 days login time the newbie red flag will disappear from flagged user profile.
Or , how made red flag he have withdrawn it.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: thd26bct on June 23, 2019, 08:43:06 AM
- I added "These warning banners will disappear when you have 7 days of login time. You should familiarize yourself with the trust system before then." to the newbie warning banner. Note BTW that it usually takes months for someone to get 7 days of login time: among all 4096 users with 6.5 to 7.5 days login time, the account age (lastLogin-dateRegistered) is: maximum 3216 days, minimum 7.5, median 677, average 936.
If I understand correctly, after 7 days login time the newbie red flag will disappear from flagged user profile.
Or , how made red flag he have withdrawn it.
You understood it wrongly. It means that active newbie-warning flags will be there if flags don't turn into inactive. Such flags will displayed as active flags if supports are more than one compared to oppositions. (Ex: If a newbie warning flag has: 3 supports, 2 oppositions ----> Active flag).
Only users (newbie users) will not see active Newbie warning flags if their log-in time surpasses 7 days. It implies that if a newbie logs in the forum more than 7 days, they should not be considered as newbie, because they have enough time to read and learn, familiarise themselves with forum structures, systems, such as Trust system. With more than 7-day-login time, such newbies should prepare themselves enough skills to avoid scam projects.
Additionally, Newbie warning flags have their own purposes, as premilinary preventive methods for newbies.
For non-agreement issues, use a newbie-warning flag and give them a negative trust rating. These actions are in the different scopes of warning newbies or informing other users of your opinions, which have less severe consequences and therefore lower bars.

A newbie-warning flag is active if there are more people supporting such a flag than opposing it. It shows a banner on topics started by the flagged user for guests and for users with less than 7 days of login time. For all users, a "#" is shown next to their trust scores.

A yellow box is used if someone creates a newbie-warning flag, which on the "Add flag" page reads as follows: Due to various concrete red flags, I believe that anyone dealing with this user has a high risk of losing money. (This flag will only be shown to guests/newbies.)

A red box is used if someone creates a scammer warning flag, which on the "Add flag" page reads as follows: This user violated a casual or implied agreement with me, resulting in damages. or This user violated a written contract with me, resulting in damages.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: docthusinh on June 24, 2019, 09:04:43 AM
One more stat need to be added: bot friendly which comprise two factors high betting speed and minimum betting stake allowed, as an example a martingale betting starting with 10 sat vs 1 sat would cause huge different in losing, begining of 10 sat bet can burn like 10x to 15x times bigger than starting with 1 sat, or speed compare one can be as faster as up to 8x over another (my real measure over 15 days 24/7: freebitco = 2x bitvest = 8x primedice)


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: Nellayar on June 24, 2019, 09:39:45 AM
Oh! Its nice to see that you have listed some gambling sites and their trusts as well as the flag of casino. It may be a warning sign for crypto gamblers that wants to have fun with these sites. It is also a basis of what will be a good option to play casino. Emphasizing ownership is also good thing for me because only few sites I knew who are the owners.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: Jjewelle29 on June 30, 2019, 04:20:37 PM
Thanks for sharing this info, it is realy helpful. because for gambling its important to know the about trust/flag of casino/dice sites owner and we also important to know those legit sites to avoid scam sites.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: adaseb on July 01, 2019, 05:51:06 AM
Found a small typo for Safedice. I looked under Owner year registered and it says 2018 but that owner has been registered with Bitcointalk since 2014.

You might of been confused because in 2018 there were 2 new accounts made which started to reply to some posts in the Safedice thread and they seemed like staff. One was called "SDupdate" and they only made 1 post but they commented on how the site is undergoing maintenance and the other was by "SDMod" which was slightly more active but only made around 28 posts.

Some say they believe that the accounts were fake made by scammers to fish people's username and password when they PM them asking for help. Because it was really odd why all of a sudden the SD admin started to post from a new account instead of his original account.


Title: Re: Trust/ Flag of casino/dice sites' owners
Post by: panjul07 on July 01, 2019, 10:10:28 AM
Some sites that can be added to the list:
Windice  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116500.0
Rocketrun https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116550.0
Eosbet.io https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103576.0
Bustabit https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2897545.0

Basically there are still many bitcoin dice/gambling sites but obviously you need to search it and it may take long time. Above sites can be considered as popular sites compared to other new sites you they deserves to be added to the list IMO.