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Overview on Trust, Flag of Bitcoin-based casinos/ dice sites' owners

Please note that I list those sites in alphabetical order.


Established
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Ann Thread
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|Bitsler|2015|Baryom|2015|Here|+6 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|Bitvest|2015|lightlord|2011|Here|+2 / =1 / -0      |No   |
|BitDice|2014|dogedice.me|2014|Here|+1 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|bustadice|2017|devans|2016|Here|+4 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|BitcoinRush|2013|casinobitco|2011|Here|+1 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|BitcoinVideoCasino|2012|BitcoinVideoPoker|2012|Here|+2 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|BitcoinCasino.com|2019|Bitcoincasinocom|2019|Here|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|Bitdouble|2016|BitDouble.io|2016|Here|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|bitkong.com|2015|Bitkong.me|2015|Here|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|betchain.com|2014|BetChain|2014|Here|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|betcoin.ag|2016|Betcoin.AG|2013|Here|+1 / =0 / -5      |No   |
|bethash.io|2019|Parodium *|2017|Here|+2 / =1 / -0      |No   |
|betking.io|2019|BetKing.io|2015|Here|!!!: +2 / =2 / -9      |Yes   |
|betbtc.co|2014|BetBTC|2014|Here|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|Bit-Exo|2016|Bit-Exo.com|2016|Here|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|Buff.bet|2018|eGoldgg|2017|Here|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|Bitgame|2017|BitGame777|2017|Here|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|CloudBet|2013|Cloudbet|2013|Here|+4 / =4 / -0      |No   |
|CoinRoyale|2013|victorhing|2013|Here|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|Crypto-Games|2014|DogecoinMachine|2014|Here|+13 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|duckdice.io|2016|DuckDice.io|2016|Here|+0 / =0 / -8      |No   |
|FortuneJack|2014|FortuneJack|2014|Here|+6 / =3 / -0      |No   |
|freebitco.in|2013|wetsuit|2013|Here|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|JETWIN|2013|BOOKMAKER|2013|Here|+0 / =1 / -0      |No   |
|KingDice|2016|wetsuit|2013|Here|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|matchbillion.com|2019|matchbillion|2019|Here|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|Nitrogensports|2012|NitrogenSports|2014|Here|+0 / =0 / -4      |No   |
|OneHash|2015|OneHash|2015|Here|+1 / =1 / -0      |No   |
|PlayBitcoinGames|2018|DomingoX6|2015|Here|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|PlayBetr|2019|PlayBetr|2015|Here|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|PrimeDice|2013|Stunna|2013|Here|+26 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|SafeDice.com|2014|SafeDice|2018|Here|!!!: +0 / =0 / -2      |Yes   |
|Sportsbet.io|2016|sportsbet.io|2016|Here|+4 / =1 / -2      |No   |
|Stake|2017|Stunna|2016|Here|+26 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|swcpoker.eu|2015|SwC_Poker|2015|Here|+1 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|TrustDice|2019|Coinbox1|2019|Here|+0 / =1 / -0      |No   |
|WinRateCasino.eu|2019|WinRateCasino|2019|Here|+0 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|YOLOdice|2016|ethan_nx|2016|Here|+1 / =0 / -0      |No   |
|777coin|2013|lightlord|2011|Here|+2 / =1 / -0      |No   |

 
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- *: Not the owner, created thread on behalf of site's owner.
- Flag notes:
  • Yes: Active flag (s)
  • Yes: Inactive flag (s)
  • No: No flag
- Trust or Flag are not only components to judge reliability of a casino. Those indicators are references that you should combine with other things to assess one casino/ dice site.
- Please remember to read details of Trust or Flag; and ANN threads.


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June 17, 2019, 06:37:18 AM
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Never heard of Safedice before and I don't have any interest in checking it our after seeing the red trust against it. I know majority of the sites in your list and I can safely say that they are some of the best business based on my research.

Seems like the sites like Primedice and Stake which are backed by Stunna have the highest trust ratings and am not surprised considering how popular both these sites are. Very useful list for newbies.




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June 17, 2019, 06:40:01 AM
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Never heard of Safedice before
According to the flag on SafeDice, the admin is rumored to be in jail, and the site is running on autopilot with the hot wallet not being topped off.
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June 17, 2019, 06:45:03 AM
Last edit: June 17, 2019, 07:10:39 AM by thd26bct
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Never heard of Safedice before and I don't have any interest in checking it our after seeing the red trust against it.
I created the topic, mostly for newbies, whom are lack of knowledge on casinos/ dice sites to help them have overview on such sites, and avoid losing money on bad sites. SafeDice, in reality, is the first site was flagged. More interestingly, flagged by the head admin, @theymos Grin
SafeDice has the honor of being the first to get an active scammer flag: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=396610
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June 17, 2019, 06:59:12 AM
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This list is good however people should still do their due diligence and read the official gambling thread here on Bitcointalk to be up to date with the latest issues, you can't read all the pages but you should read at least the first post and the last couple of pages.

Safedice does have a red flag, but the red flag was added recently and it actually was having withdraw issues for an entire year (or longer even).

There are also many numerious sites not listed which are all red flagged and are proven scams. And the easiest way is to simply read the thread. Because usually the red trust is added way too late before more people get ripped off in the meantime.

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June 17, 2019, 07:01:59 AM
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There are also many numerious sites not listed which are all red flagged and are proven scams.
I know, and the list is in progress. Please note that I list those sites in alphabetical order.
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There are some information that needs to be revised such as:
1. Kingdice owner is not Kingdice anymore since it was bought by wetsuit (owner of freebitcoin). Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1637134.msg20064003#msg20064003
2. Owner/Admin of Bitsler can be replaced by Baryom which is more active in the forum.
3. SWCpoker is not opened in 2018, 2018 is just the new version/update to 3.0 of SWCpoker. I'm not quite sure when it was opened for the first time but it can be earlier than other sites as they were formerly known as Sealswithclub.


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June 17, 2019, 11:04:42 AM
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I am so thankful for your help, @panjul07. I will check them all and edit OP later (I am on mobile for now).
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June 17, 2019, 11:09:39 AM
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It's a little sad that Trust Dice game is not in this list of Trusted betting games.

Any chance to be in the list in the future?  Wink
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Any chance to be in the list in the future?  Wink
Official thread
Added your site into the list. Thank you.

Edited the first two. However, I am not sure about SwCPoker, so I will search more about SwCPoker.
1. Kingdice owner is not Kingdice anymore since it was bought by wetsuit (owner of freebitcoin). Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1637134.msg20064003#msg20064003
2. Owner/Admin of Bitsler can be replaced by Baryom which is more active in the forum.
3. SWCpoker is not opened in 2018, 2018 is just the new version/update to 3.0 of SWCpoker. I'm not quite sure when it was opened for the first time but it can be earlier than other sites as they were formerly known as Sealswithclub.
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This could be moved to gambling discussion if you ask me since its basically talking about the trust ratings of casino owners and not even remotely related to the casinos itself since the owner could be a lot worse than the company itself but the casino would have their own bitcointalk account we see here (like many of them) whereas owner would have their different anon account we wouldn't know about.

These are the accounts of casinos that we rank between themselves not the owners accounts most of the time, yeah Stunna is there and wetsuit is there but when it comes to casinos official accounts I feel like there is a disadvantage. Plus it takes years to exist in this market and make a name for yourself and then become known by even the big names and get them to trust you so the ones that are older in the scene have an advantage.


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June 17, 2019, 05:39:55 PM
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There are some information that needs to be revised such as:
1. Kingdice owner is not Kingdice anymore since it was bought by wetsuit (owner of freebitcoin). Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1637134.msg20064003#msg20064003
2. Owner/Admin of Bitsler can be replaced by Baryom which is more active in the forum.
3. SWCpoker is not opened in 2018, 2018 is just the new version/update to 3.0 of SWCpoker. I'm not quite sure when it was opened for the first time but it can be earlier than other sites as they were formerly known as Sealswithclub.


Didn't know wetsuit bought KingDice. Hadn't really tested it, will register now.

And yes, I recall playing on SealsWithClubs ages ago. 2011 maybe? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40077.0

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Seems like Betking do have all the fancy trust rating out there. haha
This could be moved to gambling discussion if you ask me since its basically talking about the trust ratings of casino owners
Second on this one.

 
  

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June 18, 2019, 02:01:53 AM
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I got answer from SwCPoker team, and updated OP.
SwC Poker was launched in 2015. Some of our new players mark the November 2018 launch of our Bitcoin Poker 3.0 platform as the start date because of the large improvements made to the system and the increased traffic since that date.
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June 18, 2019, 10:22:24 AM
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wow Bitvest and 777coin are so old, about 8 years of action!
I wonder why do they have so little trust score though, even though they are proven to be safe and trusted.

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June 18, 2019, 10:27:58 AM
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Interesting to see that some of the sites I trust a lot have much lower score than the sites I do not trust. I do not want to mention names here but one big site there no longer has negative flags even though they used to scam (proven) in the past. I guess new management took over and we forgave them?

Also one listing there has so many trust ratings but their members are quite spammy:) Maybe it should be the Trust rating of the official account, not the owner?

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June 18, 2019, 02:50:35 PM
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wow Bitvest and 777coin are so old, about 8 years of action!
I wonder why do they have so little trust score though, even though they are proven to be safe and trusted.
Some of them are more widely promoted than others, so people have had more chances to have a look at them.

But I also noticed many of the good ones on this list missing positive trust.

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Anyone had experience with Cloudbet? Its admin has quite positive trust ratings.

I wasn't convinced last time I had a look at them. However it seems they've passed the test of time.

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June 18, 2019, 11:39:14 PM
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Anyone had experience with Cloudbet? Its admin has quite positive trust ratings.
I had seen several bad reviews about them. There are a few scam accusations opened against in the recent months. My trust ratings show them as untrustworthy.
 
I wasn't convinced last time I had a look at them. However it seems they've passed the test of time.
Doesn't mean they're gonna be the same with everyone or their previous accusations are void. I'd still consider them shady unless they solve their open scam accusations.

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June 19, 2019, 03:16:08 AM
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Anyone had experience with Cloudbet? Its admin has quite positive trust ratings.
Recently, there are complaints on Cloudbet due to their recently restrictions on US-users. They said such restrictions implemented on their platform due to US law, and I understood why they did it. By the way, I would prefer to remind that, for Cloudbet, and other sites, Trust, Flags are only one of things to consider about their credibility and reliability before using their platforms. I already emphasized it in OP.
- Trust or Flag are not only components to judge reliability of a casino. Those indicators are references that you should combine with other things to assess one casino/ dice site.
- Please remember to read details of Trust or Flag; and ANN threads.
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