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Here is the last attempt of negative propaganda against Bitcoin from Roger Ver's Bitcoin.com

https://i.redd.it/sefi17cr1x431.jpg

is obvious that their bcash shitcoin is dying with a small group of community, a shitcoin with zero usage(even Dogecoin have x10 more usage than this), with empty blocks(most blocks not have even 100kb) and with small group of devs that no one want to donate them.
This propaganda are desperate actions from Roger Ver and have a zero impact to Bitcoin.

It's fascinating how they kept the same color for 1 and 3, and the gray color (trying to mean that it's outdated) for Bitcoin :-P

This Roger shit's BCH and Craig shit's BSV are misdirections like XRP shit.

this has been a problem for awhile and still is a ongoing problem that a imposter is running bitcoin.com and ALOT of people visit it when they are new to btc and want to find out what it is. we have to keep on informing people that its a scammer running it and to stay away.

From what I see everybody is quoting the original post, with image. That helps Ver, not Bitoin; some will not read the posts and will just see the highlights, you know that, right?
I'm glad the OP didn't include also link to the article, then Ver wold have got some free backlinks too.

Ver does this bad propaganda for almost 2 years now. I'm unpleasantly surprised that there was no good solution found yet against him.
At least I've reported it to WOT for misleading content...

It's better to refer to his site as bitcoin dot com or roger dot com instead of typing the domain as it is, which only boosts his scam site.

In the end, let Roger do as he wants. It's clear that he's only shooting himself in the foot with all this weak minded propaganda. It also shows how desperate he is because his BCash scam coin needs artificial transaction inflation to make it appear popular, while in reality only his minions are using it.

People are turning against him, just read through the Twitter comments under his posts.

i cant, i am blocked from day one and banned from r/btc months before. And he says about censorship :D

It is literally only him and his wee friends that use that phrase. No one else is going to have much of a clue what he's on about. It makes him look stupid and irrelevant, not authoritative. The longer you attempt to hold back the tide the faster it claims you when it gets some momentum.

What do we expect from this guys?aside from being desperate and will do anything just to pump his BitcoinshitCash?but don’t worry because in the end of the day what will happen to BCh will die together with his desire to be known as creator of original Bitcoin

I just realized that there are two famous personalities -- Roger Ver and Craig Wright -- which the real bitcoin community don't like as these two are full of lies and "shits" just so they promote their own self-vested agenda. Yes, they are still laughing to the bank and they may even continue sowing their menace but people in the community are sure that these self-professing cryptocurrency leaders are not representing the voice and the support of the greater number of people in this industry. In fact, we should be considering as just clowns and good for entertainment, at least they have more value on this aspect.

The thing with Roger Ver is this, he was part of the early adopters of Bitcoin and he made a shitload of money from buying BTC coins cheap and selling them for a huge profit. He wants to repeat this "event" with a new coin <A coin that he got for free, from the forked coins that he got from BTC> and the only way for him to do this is to hype up BCash for others to buy more Bitcoin Cash coins.

He is using all the dirty tricks in the books to fool people into buying BCash, because this will increase the demand and his FREE coins will increase in value. When it reach a high peak, he will dump his coins for another massive profit and the other people will be the bag holders.  ::)

Does anyone find roger ver annoying with his tweets?  He keeps talking about bitcoin cash... fine.  But he is so against btc.  What is his purpose?  It's like a stupid discussion and argument... what's the point?

Pretty much this. We just saw the other day that bitcoin now has over 1 million daily active addresses. BCH has around 3% of this number (source: https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin%20cash/). Transaction times are fast and fees are low only because there are barely any transactions taking place. Their blocks are sitting almost empty, at around 1-2% of max capacity. A mining pool decided to use a 51% attack on BCH last month to "correct" some transactions they didn't like. This was easily done because their hashrate is so low. The fact that this is even possible means that BCH is no longer decentralized or censorship resistance. One mining pool has complete power over BCH, if they want it.

It is a failed coin kept alive by bag holders trying to lure in newbies.

This person with a few others are frustrated because the community did not choose Bitcoin Cash, but they gained tons of money with this fork, I don´t know what else they want...

It's remarkable how little mention this got considering it's the 'real Bitcoin'. If the 'fake Bitcoin' did this everyone would pulls their pants over their head and run around screaming. It pretty much says it all.

People don't understand just how terrible this is for a coin. Take EOS as another example. It is completely controlled by 21 "Block Producers". The very design of EOS (their "constitution", as they call it) gives these block producers the power to reverse transactions, freeze accounts, and seize your coins, and there is nothing you can do about it. This isn't even a bug, it's a feature. EOS remains the most successful ICO of all time, and currently has a marketcap of over $6 billion.

A majority of users don't understand the tech behind various coins. This is especially true of BCH, where the majority of users are newbies who have been tricked in to buying BCH by Ver and his shills thinking it is BTC. If you understand just how bad a single pool being able to 51% attack a coin is, then you understand the difference between BTC and BCH, and you are already staying well away from that trash.

I don't think that it's correct how he blames bitcoin now, it's not a right action from man but it's a business too at the same time and he tries to promote his product which is normal, wouldn't you do the same? Will you promote someone's shop when you own your one? Of course no. He tries to show good sides of his coin and can't blame for it. Bitcoin cash isn't shitcoin too, that's not correct to name that coin this way.
I don't say he is right but that's a business and that's all. Hope you guys won't blame me for making Roger somehow right but what I said is truth, just his propaganda isn't right because he says some wrong things on bitcoin.

Or probably people just ignore this coin since it just a shitcoin for them




Furthermore EOS staking favors the developer, they got 4% of the 5% annual stake (https://cointelegraph.com/explained/eos-bp-explained).  A good way for developers to enrich themselves.



I believe if people are into tech, I guess Bitcoin had been dethroned already so I guess it work bothways :).  


Just being fair Bitcoin have shills too  ;D.  Though we don't have to lie like those of BCH shills just to attract new investors.



That is really bad, and this action only means one thing,  we must not trust this BCH because they not only manipulate the market, they also manipulate the blockchain flow, even reverse it if it is beneficial to them.

He has been making people believe that Bitcoin Cash and Bitcoin is the same thing for a long time now but I'm pretty sure that this kinds of tactics of misleading people that Bitcoin and Bitcoin cash is the same is illegal, I just wonder why there are no groups of people taking action against his direty tactics. They are deceiving people or making them believe that Bitcoin cash is a cheaper version of BTC which they have the opportunity to buy more since it's just a fraction of the value of BTC.

I'm actually saying the same thing where instead on reading up someones post or replies but those images is always been quoted which is painful in the eyes.
I'm aint surprised for this shit propaganda not only to Ver but also into others as well who do still continue to attack BTC.This is indeed a very misleading content that should really be
reported but even though if there were no actions taken,people/community does know on whats the truth the only sad thing that pure newbies would really be misleaded.

I view Roger Ver as a somewhat passable man sans the shots he had been firing bitcoin ever since he had this miscommunication with the core devs. All of what he does is basically just him trying to prop his failed iteration of bitcoin, just like a telemarketer trying to do outbound calls on uninterested prospects. Anyway, he could go on and rant all he wants, but we all know the story: BCH is a failure and only those pump and dump traders together with his die-hard fanatics and close friends would ever be interested in BCH.


This. Knowing that a single entity could cause a major problem in the network, why would anyone even use your creation?  :D

It's worth noting that the millennials who will be jumping into bitcoin in the coming years are largely onto the scammy nature of Bitcoin Cash, or Bcash, if the Urban Dictionary (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bitcoin%20Cash) is any indication:

Also known as Bcash, Btrash or Shitcoin, it is scam aimed to confuse new bitcoin buyers, it's a highly centralized shitcoin...

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We cant argue the urban dictionary on that.

Low move to confuse readers to make them believe that nonsense.

Your post really made my day, I wish I still had any merit I could send you, I really do..
Your post made me remember (and laugh a lot) about a video I have seen in the internet about 1 year ago, when he did rage quit an interview because he felt "insulted" because the interviewer said "Bcash".. that was just too epic, imma drop the link here if I can find it


Edit:
Found the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCOjCEth6xI   ;D ;D ;D

That must drive him nuts. That's the type of derision money can't erase because it's the will of the people.

I occasionally dig something he says but then remember he more than likely put together risible squit like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCllEvfvgUY

I definitely remember a post from him on there telling people to concentrate on the lyrics. Now gone.

it is so absurd that they keep advertising "Satoshi vision" and talk about being the "original" while they are betraying the first and most important thing in bitcoin which is consensus (that is a part of being decentralized). basically they started the movement that any idiot with 1 to 5% hashrate started creating a fork of bitcoin and called his shitcoin the "real" bitcoin.
what you never see them talk about is how they are showing a middle finger to the "majority" by doing that. it is like if in a country 99% of the population voted for president X but Y were put in the seat of power instead whilst talking about democracy!

No he doesn't, because it doesn't have any good sides. His coin can't stand up on its own merits, so all he can do is shit on actual bitcoin and trick newbies in to thinking his coin is something else. Go to his site, which I refuse to link, and tell me what you see. "Get started with Bitcoin". "Buy Bitcoin here". "Download the official Bitcoin wallet". Lies and trickery, and not much else.

Also, does it not worry you that you refer to it as "his coin"? Isn't crypto supposed to be decentralized?

But haven't you heard!? Our lord and savior CSW proved he was Satoshi by filling in a copyright form. What more do you need? A signed message!?

Well this picture shows that he is just trying to show that bitcoin cash and bitcoin is same thing.. he is just misleading.. and this is not right...

This is just one of many attempts from RogerShitVer, and I bet it's not the last one in the intention to show shitoforkcoin as some true / real bitcoin. However with time is proved what actually people think about it, and this is at the end only relevant. In this case the lie remains a lie even though it is spoken or written 1000 times.  Only people who follow him are some newbies who see cheap bitcoin, and are not aware of the differences between fake and real bitcoin, and those who hate real bitcoin from some reason.

is very easy now for everyone to sue Roger Ver and get from him easy money. He only need to buy bcash from his site and after that to claim that he misleading and lost money from this misleading.
Roger Ver play with fire there.

The topic is boring without franky1. Where is he? 8)

Roger Ver is also so disingenuous in making it look like that Bitcoin and BitcoinCash not only split, but that BitcoinCash already existed pre-fork. ::)

Remember everyone, BitcoinCash did not exist before it forked away. It's a new network.

not only new but double forked network

not defending ver or wright coin, as they have no big merchant adoption.. but, even the likes of luke JR and greg maxwell admit that the august 2017 event was a TWO WAY SPLIT
to me all this drama is like comparing american dollar with canadian or australian or even zimbabwe dollar. where some cry babies are crying that people dont like others using the word dollar. even though no one should own completely and exclusively the brand dollar, not even USA.
(analogy swap dollar for bitcoin, swap usa for core, swap canada for ver, swap australia for wright)

segwits code is not the same as the pre split code. meaning the post-split code is different. so yes it is a
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and not a
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also looking at the timestamps of the blocks of the split. cores blocks split first. and then vers coin reacted HOURS later.even the social drama shwows that core devs wanted a split first by talking about such months earlier.. and vers coin was only a reaction a few weeks befor the split.
i only say this because so many people wanna kiss ass soo much that facts get blurred out and over exaggerations start forming to try making one side or the other seem better/worse then they are
if you could sit on the fence and see both sides. your vision would be clearer

take the august 2017 split. to get the "99% core control" by november2017 which pooya87 mentions above. core had to mandate off controversially not just 1%, not just 5% but alot more than that in august 2017

the august 2017 was not a 99% vote for core. again even luke jr and greg maxwell know and mentioned it.

anyways
vers coin and wrights coin dont have merchant adoption or any real world publicity. so just leave them in the altcoin discussion category

if you want to continue to cry about that only core should own brand bitcoin. then you failed test one of decentralisation.
think about the word 'dollar' and its multi community usage in the world as an example analogy, it might wake you up

Ohhh thats so sad.. this is not happening.. that is wrong way to misguide people.. must take an action. He is misleading  the people...

There she goes, there she goes again. Racing through my brain.

But in all seriousness franky1, why don't you try sending some BitcoinCash to an old Bitcoin address before the fork. You should get out of /r/btc's echo chamber.

windfury. try reading some actual information. stop crying
i am not team bch. i just detest the core ass kissers that want centralisation. and that includes those advertising other networks that require middlemen authorisation just to make payments.

i find it soo funny that is someone isnt kissing core centric ass they must be on another team. thats the foolish mindset of people that cant understand the word independent.

learn what bitcoins ethos was 2009-2015 before all the rekt campaigns
learn what code was used, who used it and the results it caused
you can social drama your rhetoric all you like but the blockchain data can prove you wrong.
so try to learn whats real via code, stats and data. not by social drama
oh.. its called research by the way. i know you hate the word, but try it

There's no crying here. But what should be dested are fraudsters telling newbies that "BitcoinCash is Bitcoin".


Which people are we talking about? Signatories of the NYA perhaps? 8)


You post Roger Ver's "bilateral split" propaganda, and tell us we are causing social drama? Hahaha, ok.


That is simply NOT true.

bilateral split was GMAX's buzzword
RESEARCH IS HEALTHY. try it

luke JR loved his mandatory code to cause the split. he has been celebrating its success ever since.
RESEARCH IS HEALTHY. try it

and if so why there is only one line to bcash even after 2 forks and not two lines?
you are not honest even to your shitcoin propaganda.

edit: i forget.... this forks are "upgrades".... :P

I see Roger Ver's nonsense, I often see his tweets full of nonsense always comparing the transaction costs of Bitcoin with BCH, whereas I'm sure not many people are interested in him, only some small groups that don't influence Bitcoin  >:(

my shitcoin propaganda?.... dang seems you too cant contemplate independent thought

i dont care about the drama of the altcoins after the august 2017 event.(emphasis upon emphasis 'bilateral' is gmax's buzzword)
you seem to be stuck in a team X or team Y mindset that you cant even envision independent thought of not belonging to any team... i know shock right. someone thats not fanboying any team.. OMG your thinking it must be impossible.

core devs admit to a bilateral split as do those on the altcoin side.
the only propaganda is those trying to fight over ownership of a brand NO_ONE should own
if you keep thinking core deserves bitcoin brand then you have failed decentralisation class lesson one
EMPHASIS NO ONE should own the brand.
EMPHASIS NO ONE should own the brand.

take 2 steps back, open your mind. sit on the fence and ask yourself
"who owns 'dollar'?"
some patriotic hillbillies will scream blue murder its 'murica
but really think about the real world
canadian DOLLAR
australian DOLLAR
zimbabwe DOLLAR

then think
is the world at crisis with the confusion CAD vs USD... no

Roger Ver only target is new members who just enter into crypto currency roger ver website convert those users to bitcoin cash and keep holding bitcoin cash as real bitcoin he keep doing this for very long time

Roger Ver is a well known scammer. He promote several times in the past shitcoin only because he decide to buy low and sell high, Dash is a great example of this.
I dont know how this guy had for so many years reputation to bitcoin community. Is very good for the health of bitcoin ecosystem this guys to leave from community, but i have my doubts that they will not return back as their shitcoin have epic failed. 

What's there to research? Even you can't prove that that "term" is "their buzzword". It's from Roger Ver's anti-Bitcoin propaganda, and everyone knows it. 8)

Come down to reality, it's healthy. Try it.

PSA: The troll is lying.

bcash is an airdrop altcoin. It is not Bitcoin in any sense.

Bitcoin did not split in 2017.

The man has spoken. I believe that ends franky1's debate on the topic.


That's a good analogy. They're each separate currencies, the same as BitcoinCash is a separate cryptocurrency from Bitcoin. BitcoinCash copied the software, made incompatible changes, split from the main chain, and made a new network that's separate from the old one.

I think that all users of cryptocurrency who already have enough experience are wary of this type of application.  Today there are already quite a lot of scammers, as well as trolls who spread any information, in order to achieve certain goals.  But it is not a fact that all this news should be listened to.

go check the blockchain data and then check the code wrote by luke JR
what you will notice is that bch didnt even exist for hours AFTER core done their controversial fork. thus bch was not the cause but the reaction to an earlier cause.

blockchain timestamps dont lie

oh and luke wanted soft upgrade in 2015-16. but that failed. what occurred in august 2017 was not soft.
he can name a spade a shovel but the controversy and mandated apartheid tactics that happened shows it was hard

he and samson mow can wear a hat that says that they are janitors.. doesnt make it so.
truly gotta laugh at lukes lies about his lack of involvement in things/ inability to do things. and yet his linked in profile show's his ego showing off(while still misleading) his involvement

even Roger Ver not believe what you just write.
This has a zero tech base and is pure bullshits.
If you want someone to take serious start to act as logical person.

read the blockchain data. check out the blockheights and time stamps. check out luke jr's code.

but naw. you dont think thats "techy" do you?
instead you think quoting human social drama is "techy"
(facepalm)

luke JR wanted a soft fork with his november 2016 release hoping for a christmas 2016 activation.
but even by spring 2017 it sat at only 35% flag...
so luke went on his mandatory controversial fork attempt which he mislead by pretending it was a softfork.
gmax happily calls it a bilateral split. and theres enough quotes on this forum that shows gmax loves thee buzzword 'bilateral'

but the funny part. luke wants to deny anything happened on august 1st.. truly funny.

it gets very obvious who the ones are that prefer to hug a dev, rather than think about code/features of a network

lol
you dont even know the difference from soft - hard fork, You say bcash is Bitcoin when this altcoin already forked three times in a row. But i think you already know. I cant believe that a guy like you is so blind.
the answer for your case is very simple.
You have fall to Ver scam, you have sell all of your bitcoin, invest in a shitcoin  without any future and you are in a limbo and with the only choice to promote a coin with zero future.
You are not alone in this road. Dozens of early adopter fell to this trap in the past.

i never even used a BCH wallet, nor have i deposited any bch into an exchange. because i dont care about it

the stupid thing is that you think because i dont kiss core devs ass that you think it means im a bch guy.

no im a bitcoin NETWORK guy that cares about code and features not the devs.
there is no point kissing a devs ass, no point defending a dev.
they are temporary entities and their loyalty follows the VC money they earned and now have to stifle bitcoin just to create alternate networks like LN as a means of VC' s to make ROI on the investment.

if you only care about kissing a dev. then maybe its you that should sell ur coins

After all the lies, and misinformation you posted, no one believes you. Produce your own proof, or get out. Show us the code you claim, and let's show it to Luke-Jr. It will be a learning experience for everyone reading the topic. Or a memefying one. 8)

if you cant find th bitcoin blockchain data. if you cant find luke Jr's mandatory code for august 1st
if you cant see that v0x20000002 activated hours BEFORE cash even made a block...
then thats your problem

but hey all you care about is social drama and memes... maybe best you spend some time learning code, learning stats if you really wanna get involved in any serious conversations

How many page views does his shit website get every day? I am sure that it is much lower than that of the Bitcoin article in Wikipedia. That said, we need to take care of all this propaganda being unleashed by the proponents of BCH/BSV. Because I have personally met users who have been fooled by it. Taking control of the Bitcoin.com domain must be done on a priority basis.

I only use bitcoin cash in an exchange that is sympathetic to BCH where they charge zero fee as transaction fee, I move to other better exchanges that charges low on bitcoin withdrwal, convert to bitcoin and withdraw. In most escrow group I belong to, we buy/sell 85% bitcoin and 2% ethereum. Ethereum because of using it for DEX trading platforms.

what reputation or respect are you talking about?
people like Ver never had any of it and weren't exactly looking for it either. they only care about money. if you listen to what they say and things they do you can see that they are only businessmen who care about increasing their wealth. buying bitcoin.com domain, creating bcash, and all that is for that reason.

No I can't, because there's none. Where are they? Share them in the topic, and then we can show it to Luke-Jr, and you be memefied. Again. 8)

You were already caught lying. Read Luke-Jr's post.

these tactics are very dirty and in the long run can still harm many people. it is necessary for others to know these tactics and they can avoid misleading propaganda. let alone propaganda that mentions BTC I think many people are sensitive if there is a name for BTC and are easily affected. This must be eliminated

why bitcoin com sells only Bitcoin core and not Bitcoin Knots? :P

https://i.redd.it/fd5ihxc7mc631.png#oo

i predict that very soon Roger Ver will sell his domain. I dont think get any profit from this crap site anymore plus the offers to sell his domain are very big and cant ignore them forever.
Roger Ver was always a greedy person and he never care about bitcoin or what bitcoin represents.

Yeah must mention the link.. so that we can visit and read properly..

I doubt it. The site has just undergone a big re-design in time for the bull run, to make it even better at failing to mention that BCH isn't bitcoin and fooling people in to buying it. Given the recent price movement, it was around about this point before, back in 2017, when newbies started pouring in to the crypto space and FOMO pumped the price up to $20k. If history repeats, the next few months are likely to be Ver's most profitable time - thousands of fresh newbies who don't understand his site is a scam and BCH is trash, willing to buy whatever they can throw their money at with minimal knowledge or due diligence.

He absolutely doesn't care about anything except himself, which is why the site will keep going for the foreseeable future. Too many potential victims for him to scam.

Just because the nascent BCH network at the time barely had enough hash power to find a block (eventually finding one many hours after the planned launch time), it has no correlation to SegWit being activated as a softfork by 90+% of the hashrate on the BTC network.

If you're going to lie, at least learn how do do it convincingly.  

No one is crazy enough to sell this domain name. The day Roger Ver decides to sell it it will be like admitting BCH isn't Bitcoin. This person is so convinced from his own propaganda that it won't happen.
If they fail to monetize their website it's because they mislead people and give them wrong information, etc...

this guys have lost million of dollars with bcash. Bitmain was near bankrupt and Jihan Wu get out of the ceo position. The same happen to Roger Veri. I calculate that they have lost 50-60% of their asset value and this still continue.
In the near future Roger Ver have only few choices to economical survive. One of them is to sell his domain, get the money and get out forever from the space.

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you cant find blockchain data? ..... ok take a step away from the keyboard until you can atleast find the basics


research v0x20000002 you might learn something

anyway. many people are crying that bitcoin is not solely owned in full by core.... well keep crying, no one should own the brand bitcoin. if you want to cry. go cry that USA dont solely own the dollar

I don't think Ver cares about money at this point.

How much richer can he get?

He just wants to be an ass and every day he spends outside of a prison cell he more and more thinks he is the smartest fuck ever by scamming noobs and not going to prison.

I don't want to waste my time, proving that you are on a misinformation rampage again. Because you are, and everyone knows it. You provide the code and the blockchain data, not me. You can't, them you get out.

Plus here, a funny one for the topic, the economic majority has spoken,

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D92s_ClVUAI44jv?format=jpg

BitcoinCash also has only 3% of Bitcoin's hashing power. I believe miners have spoken too.

i have sold all of my btrash shitcoins to this range of price :P

Stop being a disingenuous shitweasel and you might learn something.  BCH were aiming for a specific launch time and missed it completely due to a lack of mining support.  You can't counter that by repeating yourself like a braindead parrot about data on the blockchain.  I was right there watching it all unfold at the time.  I know what happened.  This is how I know you are talking nonsense.  Nothing you say ever matches up with events as they occurred.  You're either full of shit, or you live in a fantasy world because you are legitimately unhinged. 

gotta love the core dev defenders. look at the insults they fly out with and the social memes they use. yet still afraid to actually do some proper research on data and stats.

kinda gets boring that they waste their time on defending devs instead of caring about the network/utility of bitcoin.
but anyway ill let them continue with thier social drama games because it seems its thier only entertainment in life.

but to others that actually care about data/protocol/function of the network.
theres plenty of it so have fun researching the data and try to stay away from reddit or you will just end up looking like drama queens like a few certain people

anyway v0x20000002 is enough of a first stepping stone of research for those that actually do care about actual order of events

Can i ask something?
Jihan Wu have sell his 1million bcash or he hodl them :D

I'm not disputing the order of events, you illiterate troll.  BCH forked later, because they lacked support.  But they wanted to fork earlier.  How many different ways do I have to say it?

dont feed the troll.
Is obvious that he is trolling

Roger has done such actions many times, but none of them can shift Bitcoin as a cryptocurrency pioneer.
Whether it's his strategy to increase the popularity of bitcoin or not, what is clear is that it is not justified because it makes new users confused by the condition.

No, franky1. It's not love for the Core developers. It's because you have been spreading lies, and misinformation, everything based on Roger Ver's propaganda.


Show your proof/code that you were talking about or get out. You have shown everyone NOTHING.

i like to see the reaction now from ppl around Roger Ver that convince them to swap their bitcoin for bcash shitcoin  :D
great choice :D

yep doomad is trolling
even he knows that luke JR invented the code for the mandatory split crap MONTHS before bitcoin cash was even a brainfart

bch was not created to contend against core as a take over. whereby core had to react
bch was a knee-jerk reaction to cores aparthied attempt on the community.
but anyways core on august 1st only accepted blocks of a certain category that means it changed direction to what was acceptable the day before (so core did split/change direction) and as doomad confirms in his own insulting manner bch hours later went in their direction too as a reaction to no longer being part of the core network (hint if core didnt do the mandated crap then ver would have still been part of core network and there would have been orphan drama)

either way bch is just another alt and used as just a distraction to avoid talking about btc's issues

Where is the Proof of Code? Hahaha. 8)


::)

But Roger Ver goes around, scamming newbies, and says that "Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin". You have lost, you stop making up stories.

I only troll you and the other FUD-spreading bellends like you, because it's what you deserve.  You troll the entire community, who deserve so much better than the likes of pathetic, butthurt sadcases like you, crying over things you can't change because you have no support for your dismal ideas.  I'd actually have more respect for you if you were a genuine altcoin shill, because at least those people can get their ideas off the drawing board.  You can't even manage that.  You will never get what you want because you are completely alone.  You can't even find a single person on the face of the planet who would volunteer their time to code up your insane wishlist of utterly mindless crap.

Back to the point on Luke Jr, though, individual devs can do things that other devs don't support.  One person's actions does not necessarily represent the views of an entire dev team.  It's not a conspiracy, you flailing fruitloop.  All that happened is that someone coded something you don't like and now you apparently have to spend the rest of your life bitching about it on the internet, because that's what butthurt sadcases do.  You are the only person who still cares about this "mandatory" code that wasn't mandatory in the slightest because not enough people were running it.  Everyone else has moved on, but you still desperately cling to the only point in the course of human history when you mistakenly believed you had an opinion that was relevant.  But you didn't matter then and you don't matter now.  Give it a rest already.

Another one of Roger Ver's disingenuous ways to trick newbies into believing that Bitcoin Cash is "quick and fast peer to peer cash", https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/cnqsa7/bitcoin_cash_is_lightning_fast/

::)

Newbies, research settlement assurances, and finality in blockchains. What he did in that video doesn't matter.

I don't post about things that don't matter.

or to put it another way:

if it doesn't matter, why validate it at all by drawing attention to it

speaking of how windfury NOW only believes a transaction is final when it has a settlement assurance(confirm).. how does that sit with windfury's love of LN which doesnt settle at the 'payment stage'
if windfury trusts a LN payment then he must realise its the same as a unconfirmed tx

p.s gotta love how windfury still hasnt read code or fully understood the technologies of crypto, but then tries to not appear to be naive by using abstract words like 'settlement assurance' instead of just saying 'confirm'

by the way bitcoin(BTC) is just as fast as bch.. which i dont think windfury grasped the concept of. all altcoins are the same speed.... (concept being: accepting unconfirmed tx's)

as for his argument about which network is bitcoin.. spinning it into an already discussed comparison. is like saying which country owns 'dollar'

its far less hassle and strain to just explain to people there are many bitcoins/dollars, but the main one is btc/usd
trying to fight that only core should own the brand goes against all principles of what bitcoin was invented for

let them in the misery. No one use this crap coin any longer. I am sure that even Roger Ver will left this crap.

I was merely making a point that newbies should do their own research, and not fall for Roger Ver's disingenuous tricks.


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Carlton Banks, like this disingenuous trick to make me look like I'm trying to scam the community.


Another disingenuous trick to attack my image, but he never attacks the debate.

You're a "coder", and "claim" to understand Bitcoin, then why do you keep asserting the wrong information are the correct ones? Right, misinformation.


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Is that supposed to legitimize Roger Ver's disingenuous marketing trick?


There's only one Bitcoin, and it's the one valued the highest, has the most hashing power, and has the highest transaction volume.

Try harder. 8)

eh? make sense, man


I think I get it, your reply is laid out in a confusing way

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again (I'm gonna be as clear as I was last time)


why even validate the bad actors who attack Bitcoin with misinformation? it only gives them status, why would you want them to have status?


All you're achieving is adding oxygen to the discussion of endless trolling from endless trolls. why do that?

ok so LN* is not bitcoin, by your own methodology

*which is a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT NETWORK. has no hashpower and its unit of measure is 12 decimal instead of 8, and is named msat instead of satoshi or bitcoin

if ln is not bitcoin what about mutlisig bitcoins? are them and "not bitcoin"?

That is correct is all about BSV, but people are already learn and they can't blame them, People know theres only one bitcoin no other can replace it on their position as king of crypto as stable coins. Speceally this c
Recent price value have an indication to goes into the moon.

Lightning is an "off-chain" network, built for Bitcoin, which you can send your Bitcoin through, with the Bitcoin blockchain as the final arbiter.


I don't know. Because I want everyone to laugh at the stupidity too?

Here, see how laughable this comment from Roger Ver is, https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&t=1780&v=M7djrHdJybc

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right, but the most powerful way of saying "this argument is not credible", is to say it once, then leave it be


whereas, you are giving the argument credibility by saying it has none, but then actually giving it credibility because you continue to argue



for example, if flat-earthers try to engage in argument, what's the best way to handle it? argue with them forever, or for 5 minutes? it's the 2nd option, right?

you're doing the equivalent of arguing forever with Bitcoin flat-earthers about how Bitcoin isn't a discworld (supported by four giant elephants standing on the backs of infinite turtles...)

In most cases, many cryptocurrency users disseminate negative information about Bitcoin and Ethereum in order to adversely affect their reputation and at the same time gloss over the prospects of their assets.  I believe that in this way a pr-campaign is carried out to get rid of unnecessary and bad assets, but at the same time buy Bitcoin at a cheap price.

Someone, presumably the new CEO of Bitcoin.com, changed the default buy on there from BCH to, er, Bitcoin.

Guess who wasn't best pleased about this completely pragmatic choice? - https://old.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/coesvv/default_buy_on_bitcoincom_is_now_bitcoin_and_not/ewhtn6t/?context=3

https://i.ibb.co/cL5TVG1/Capture.png (https://ibb.co/X8BJMhb)

This new CEO should be on the position in the first place rather than to the older ones who do mislead people. At least we are seeing now that the default buy is already BTC instead of BTrash shitcoin.  ;D

I think Our Roger is having a bad day today. This is his latest 'thinking'.

https://twitter.com/rogerkver/status/1160286347002695680

https://i.ibb.co/xm9972R/Capture.png (https://ibb.co/bHwwK68)

What next? I predict he will come round every Bitcoin holder's place and personally block their toilet with hair he's been gathering up for months.

lol
bcash was an epic fail for Bitmain and Roger Ver. Let them in their misery.
And yes Stark is not only a great coder but and a very beautiful woman.

He also said that in the YouTube interview I posted. In Roger Ver's universe, that's the only way for Jack Dorsey's Lightning endorsement to have a point. ::)

I think this is a sign that we need a Bitcoin maximalist to step up, do the right thing and start sleeping with Roger.

Tone Vays is looking pretty hot these days now he's gotten rid of his liquorice hairdo.

The only reason why Jihan Wu is so irrationaly hot for Bitcoin Cash is because he has/had a romantic relationship with Roger Ver.

Reminds me of this.

https://i.ibb.co/gTtYzB4/2012-01-01-henry-glenn.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

Crypto needs a first couple. Ideally I'd prefer one with less baggage but the power of love can overcome stuff like this. The beautiful thing about it is that they would both make a great little wife for each other. I'm sure they both like keeping house. 

Because Roger Ver has become irrelevant, that's why he's making inappropriate "statements". It started when Craig Wright forked to BSV, leaving him. It showed he was a sucker, that includes Gavin Andresen, and others who believed in Craig Wright.

all of these clowns would be even less relevant if people ceased talking about (or to) them

Or maybe he should be more relevant than most "influencers" in Twitter. He has more Bitcoins than most of them, and he has been around before most of them.

Honestly, if Roger Ver didn't hard fork to his altcoin scam, I believe his words would hold much more value.

Bitcoin is like a Mandelbrot fractal >>> if you zoom in it appears to have many branches, small versions ~ zoom out it is one. ;)  *good to see you back m8*

Is the @Bitcoin Twitter account not controlled by Roger Ver? It deleted all its "Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin" tweets, and started retweeting pro-Bitcoin tweets.

Or is Roger Ver coming back to Bitcoin?

@bitcoin has unblocked me and i see that they do the same with every bitcoiner that had block in the past.
Now you can see only pro bitcoin tweets there :D

https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/1163706883175141383

without a doubt bitcoin has fallen on some hard times and it seems that Roger Ver non stop rant against Bitcoin not being the real bitcoin has come to and end. Nowadays people do research instead of just believing what anyone says.

I am sure Roger Ver has definitely lost access to the @Bitcoin account. Only he can't admit it in public, otherwise, it would be accepting that he was controlling the account all this time. So he preferred to tell another story. Supposedly he knows the guy, blah, blah, blah...
that's another lie from Roger. Either that or he sold the account knowing he couldn't do anything with it anymore.
Glad he can't use it for his propaganda now ;D

For those who missed the last news
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-twitter-handle-with-1-million-followers-renounces-bitcoin-cash

https://i.imgur.com/qcpEYzt.png

He definitely is losing his ground on bcash but he is not coming to bitcoin neither. Not after all that shit happened.

The only direction he needs to follow from now on: leave the crypto scene completely, get married and live like kings with all those money he acquired (scammed from other people) over the years.

Otherwise he'll either end up in jail or in a mental hospital. (tbh I'd like to see that happen)

I presume its usage goes to the highest bidder. Expect photos of Our Clavin's wrinkly old penis and testicles alongside some BSV love if the price is right. I can't think of any other explanation for its behaviour.

I doubt that. There is some speculation going that it might have been Jack (CEO of Twitter) who is currently in control of the @Bitcoin handle. If that's actually the case, then it has come to a good end, at least for the time being.

The bids for the lease must have been insanely high for Roger to back off. It makes me wonder if the bitcoin dot com site isn't actually owned by him but simply leased to him as the previous highest bidder. Interesting development.

Jack Dorsey? Then why did it support the "Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin" narrative, before turning around and support Bitcoin? 

Maybe @Bitcoin is controlled by someone who made a mistake and fell into the Bitcoin Cash narrative, and later realized what the truth is, like many of us. 8)

it is more possible that the person controlling that twitter account had some benefits in supporting BCH instead of falling for anything. whether it was personal profit (investing and helping the pump) or was it payment made by other parties to advertise BCH is unknown to me. but i am almost sure that money was involved.

This bloke - https://twitter.com/theinstagibbs/status/1163837511287869441 says he's in control now but I can't see any proof.

I still think the lease running out is the most likely option. If someone like Roger fully controlled it there's absolutely no way he'd let it go.

Extortion? Haha.

Or which developers, or influencers, or miner recently left Roger Ver, and Bitcoin Cash? That might be the one. 8)