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Title: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: heshamfx on June 17, 2019, 06:01:51 PM
Hello, and sorry for bothering you all.

I need money to make a surgery I don't know what should I do, I believe that maybe no one will believing me but I am honest and will return the money
in time with profit if this is not urgently I will not ask. I will work to give the money back  this is the last place I can go to get a loan because no one

will give me money.

Thanks


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: BitMaxz on June 17, 2019, 06:07:35 PM
Sorry but no one will give you with a brand new account you must provide collateral to be able to lend with a brand new account.

Why don't you try contacting your local government for help instead?


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: heshamfx on June 17, 2019, 06:10:29 PM
Sorry but no one will give you with a brand new account you must provide collateral to be able to lend with a brand new account.

Why don't you try contacting your local government for help instead?

Thank you BitMaxz for your replay. But because we have a war our local banks does not give you money , I am form Yemen. I have a business and I am getting money  from this but I need about 20000$ at once which I have not this amount right now. I can give this amount at the end of the year but I need to make urgent surgery this is the problem


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on June 17, 2019, 06:39:27 PM
Over $18,000 for ‘surgery’ with no collateral to a newbie account. Yeah this is not going to happen.


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: heshamfx on June 17, 2019, 06:42:16 PM
Over $18,000 for ‘surgery’ with no collateral to a newbie account. Yeah this is not going to happen.

Thanks LFC_Bitcoin

Yeah you know in my country now how much I need just to create a passport -> 600$ for one person and we are 3
and how much the cost for an air plain ticket for just one person -> 1200$

and you do the math


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: Csmiami on June 17, 2019, 06:43:30 PM
Over $18,000 for ‘surgery’ with no collateral to a newbie account. Yeah this is not going to happen.

Thanks LFC_Bitcoin

Yeah you know in my country now how much I need just to create a passport -> 600$ for one person and we are 3
and how much the cost for an air plain ticket for just one person -> 1200$

and you do the math

600*3=1800
1200*3=3600

1800+3600=5400

180000-5400=12600 ??? ???


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: heshamfx on June 17, 2019, 06:49:51 PM
Over $18,000 for ‘surgery’ with no collateral to a newbie account. Yeah this is not going to happen.

Thanks LFC_Bitcoin

Yeah you know in my country now how much I need just to create a passport -> 600$ for one person and we are 3
and how much the cost for an air plain ticket for just one person -> 1200$

and you do the math

600*3=1800
1200*3=3600

1800+3600=5400

180000-5400=12600

and the amount of the surgery also expensive of living other country for one month by the way the ticket is 5400$ you need to multiply it by two (home and away) 
 So
1800 + 10800 = 12600
18000 - 12600 = 5400 :o :o


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: actmyname on June 17, 2019, 10:49:02 PM
and the amount of the surgery also expensive of living other country for one month by the way the ticket is 5400$ you need to multiply it by two (home and away)
I also don't understand where your numbers are coming from. What exactly is 10800?

Why not give out all the details beforehand? Return flights are of-course cheaper than two one-ways but this is what we would have evaluated:

PRICE_PASSPORT = 600
PRICE_TICKET = 1200
INSTANCES = 3

3 * 1200 * 2 = 7200 (COST OF FLIGHTS)
3 * 600      = 1800 (COST OF PASSPORTS)
18000 - 9000 = 9000 (COST OF SURGERY)

What, exactly, would be the details that we're missing?


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: heshamfx on June 17, 2019, 11:02:54 PM

 [/quote]I also don't understand where your numbers are coming from. What exactly is 10800?

Why not give out all the details beforehand? Return flights are of-course cheaper than two one-ways but this is what we would have evaluated:

PRICE_PASSPORT = 600
PRICE_TICKET = 1200
INSTANCES = 3

3 * 1200 * 2 = 7200 (COST OF FLIGHTS)
3 * 600      = 1800 (COST OF PASSPORTS)
18000 - 9000 = 9000 (COST OF SURGERY)

What, exactly, would be the details that we're missing?
[/quote]
Thank you Csmiami your calculations is right I get missed up with my calculations


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: actmyname on June 17, 2019, 11:18:45 PM
Are you going to reveal any details at all or is this going to be another vague loan request?

Anyone is able to sign up for a throwaway account and ask for a loan with a sob story. Anyone.


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: realkoloso on June 17, 2019, 11:35:07 PM
I am interested in your offer, please contact me realkoloso@bigmir.net


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: Vod on June 18, 2019, 01:10:48 AM
Yeah you know in my country now how much I need just to create a passport -> 600$ for one person and we are 3

Three people need the surgery now?


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: heshamfx on June 18, 2019, 06:42:02 AM
Are you going to reveal any details at all or is this going to be another vague loan request?

Anyone is able to sign up for a throwaway account and ask for a loan with a sob story. Anyone.

What details you want from me to reveal ? Yes I could reveal any details but I don't do it


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: JackpotRacer on June 18, 2019, 06:45:47 AM
try gofundme.com

good luck


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: heshamfx on June 18, 2019, 06:54:47 AM
try gofundme.com

good luck

Thank you JackpotRacer very much for your help I try it but gofundme dose not support my country.


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: JackpotRacer on June 18, 2019, 07:30:56 AM
try gofundme.com

good luck

Thank you JackpotRacer very much for your help I try it but gofundme dose not support my country.

if you have a friend or family in a country which is accepted, ask them to do the gofundme for you. if you can describe your problem with doctor/medicine references you have a chance at least

good luck


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: Csmiami on June 18, 2019, 07:32:14 AM
Yeah you know in my country now how much I need just to create a passport -> 600$ for one person and we are 3

Three people need the surgery now?

I'd assume it's 1 person undergoing it and 2 companions ??? but who knows, the storie gets better with every new post


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: cabalism13 on June 18, 2019, 07:34:35 AM
Yeah you know in my country now how much I need just to create a passport -> 600$ for one person and we are 3

Three people need the surgery now?

Yes, they certainly have the same brain loss damage.


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: heshamfx on June 18, 2019, 10:04:43 AM
Yeah you know in my country now how much I need just to create a passport -> 600$ for one person and we are 3

Three people need the surgery now?

I'd assume it's 1 person undergoing it and 2 companions ??? but who knows, the storie gets better with every new post

Csmiami I tell the truth by the way the person who need the surgery is my mom so stop tell me that I am making up a story


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: suchmoon on June 18, 2019, 10:41:50 AM
Assuming that at least some of the details are true... I sincerely doubt that this would be a roundtrip from Yemen and that you have a business that could repay $20k by the end of the year if you haven't got any savings and have to borrow even to get passports.


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: Csmiami on June 18, 2019, 10:54:32 AM
Assuming that at least some of the details are true... I sincerely doubt that this would be a roundtrip from Yemen and that you have a business that could repay $20k by the end of the year if you haven't got any savings and have to borrow even to get passports.

As I was curious about the passport price (I paid around 30€ for mine a few months ago) being that high, I did a bit of google research and found a couple of sites. This one (https://www.refworld.org/docid/54bf65c24.html)is a bit old  (but is the most complete) , but prices match the other newer ones I have found. There you can read...
Quote
  • Include an $82 fee for a new passport
  • You can get the Application Form at the Consulate (2 €).
We can assume there may be some other fee, but that is still far from 600$ for a single passport

Then again, I found this (https://www.monitordeoriente.com/20190306-yemen-deja-de-expedir-pasaportes/) interesting piece of news (in Spanish)
Quote
Las autoridades yemeníes han dejado de expedir pasaportes como resultado de la alta demanda
Or translated to plain English
Quote
Authorities from Yemen halt passport issuing due to a high demand volume

So what I get from there, is that OP is asking us to lend some money to buy a passport in the black market ??? which would go against forum rules
Quote
17. Trading of goods that are illegal in the seller's or buyer's country is forbidden


Btw, where do you get from that he is from Yemen??


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: heshamfx on June 18, 2019, 11:10:51 AM
Assuming that at least some of the details are true... I sincerely doubt that this would be a roundtrip from Yemen and that you have a business that could repay $20k by the end of the year if you haven't got any savings and have to borrow even to get passports.

Thank you suchmoon for you replay. I can assure to you that I can get the 20k$ by the end of this year.


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: heshamfx on June 18, 2019, 11:19:22 AM
Assuming that at least some of the details are true... I sincerely doubt that this would be a roundtrip from Yemen and that you have a business that could repay $20k by the end of the year if you haven't got any savings and have to borrow even to get passports.

As I was curious about the passport price (I paid around 30€ for mine a few months ago) being that high, I did a bit of google research and found a couple of sites. This one (https://www.refworld.org/docid/54bf65c24.html)is a bit old  (but is the most complete) , but prices match the other newer ones I have found. There you can read...
Quote
  • Include an $82 fee for a new passport
  • You can get the Application Form at the Consulate (2 €).
We can assume there may be some other fee, but that is still far from 600$ for a single passport

Then again, I found this (https://www.monitordeoriente.com/20190306-yemen-deja-de-expedir-pasaportes/) interesting piece of news (in Spanish)
Quote
Las autoridades yemeníes han dejado de expedir pasaportes como resultado de la alta demanda
Or translated to plain English
Quote
Authorities from Yemen halt passport issuing due to a high demand volume

So what I get from there, is that OP is asking us to lend some money to buy a passport in the black market ??? which would go against forum rules
Quote
17. Trading of goods that are illegal in the seller's or buyer's country is forbidden


Btw, where do you get from that he is from Yemen??

Again thank you Csmiami for your search and curious. I pay 220000 rial Yemen to get a passport for my mom but at the end I did not get anything.

you know I am in sana'a and to get a passport valid and travel with I need to travel to Aden and instated of taking 6hrs to arrive it take 24hrs to get there in the road you will pay around 70k rial Yemeni after 24hrs you will arrive to Aden to start the process of getting passport.

You will rent a hotel to stay because the passport take about one week to issues. Every night you pay about 15k rial Yemeni the rent of the hotel and about 10k your food and other thing so the math is:

70K + (15K * 5) + (10K * 5) = 195K in rail Yemen and after you get the passport you go back to sanaa and this cost you 70K in the trip
195K + 70K = 2560000 rial Yemen this about 600$

After all this you may don't get your passport because they are finish and need to be printed again.

Believe me the living here is much harder than you can even imagine

Thank you for you interest 


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: fenican on June 21, 2019, 11:16:31 PM
Obvious scam. No trust, no collateral, no loan. Not for $20k, $2k, $200, or $20.


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: actmyname on June 22, 2019, 02:56:50 AM
Assuming that at least some of the details are true... I sincerely doubt that this would be a roundtrip from Yemen and that you have a business that could repay $20k by the end of the year if you haven't got any savings and have to borrow even to get passports.

Thank you suchmoon for you replay. I can assure to you that I can get the 20k$ by the end of this year.
How do you intend to do this?

If you can't reveal any sensitive information, then at least tell us this.

No lender is going to have confidence in your reliability if you're not willing to at least relinquish details on how you intend to handle things after you get the money. If there's no anticipated way of repaying the loan then it's a very high-risk transaction.


Title: Re: Needed Money for surgery without collateral 2 BTC
Post by: heshamfx on June 23, 2019, 12:07:13 PM
Assuming that at least some of the details are true... I sincerely doubt that this would be a roundtrip from Yemen and that you have a business that could repay $20k by the end of the year if you haven't got any savings and have to borrow even to get passports.

Thank you suchmoon for you replay. I can assure to you that I can get the 20k$ by the end of this year.
How do you intend to do this?

If you can't reveal any sensitive information, then at least tell us this.

No lender is going to have confidence in your reliability if you're not willing to at least relinquish details on how you intend to handle things after you get the money. If there's no anticipated way of repaying the loan then it's a very high-risk transaction.

Than you actmyname for you respond. I can reveal all sensitive information if I found some will give me the loan I will reveal all info about me and also give the medical document. Just tell me what info do I need to reveal