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I have seen lots of project that do a Pre ICO (with discounts etc). The reason many project do that, is do invest the money into a succesful ICO as not every project has already a big Marketing budget.

I would like to know from you all if you have problem with Pre ICOs from a investor prospective or if you find that a common/normal way to launch a successful ICO.

Or do you prefer projects that just do a ICO without any Pre ICO.

I would like to know your opinion as investors which method you prefer and which makes a better impression at you.


Cheers and thank you for your feedback!  :)

I didn't know that they are doing that.

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Do you have any proofs to show that those projects that do pre-ICO invests their investors money to a successful project?

I have seen so many projects doing pre ICO in the past, and it's not a guaranty that the project will be successful, in fact, there is a risk, they are giving a very high bonus or a very low discounted rate than when their token hit the market  the pre-ICO investors would likely dump their token when they realized their profit.

Hey mate, I dont have any proof. The question i asked is especially because their are hardly stats to find how many pre ICOs were successful and which of them reached their soft Cap initially. For me it is just good to know if an investor would still invest in a pre ICO or not.

If you follow the bounty you may know about this,lot of project actually conduct their sale in two phase and the first one called as pre sale with much discounts and the public sale with no discount for much extended time.Many successful project in 2017 didd this but all of them just gone into short term successful but in long term not sure of that.

So if i understand you right, you would prefer a regular ICO because the risk of dumping Coins once hitting any exchange is much lower right?-

My understanding is, if you have a great project a great product why would a project have to give such massive discount and risk a decline on the exchanges later on.

Thats what i assumed and noticed too. So do you think it is still a good idea to do this strategy in 2019?

ICO projects are growing very much from 2017, until 2018 ICO has decreased against investor interest. But in my opinion now, Pre-ICO or ICO is less effective in raising funds, because the trend of investors is now more confident in the development of the IEO.
If you are a developer, you can do all three, namely, Pre-ICO, ICO, then IEO, now this IEO to win the trust of investors.

I prefer projects that hold pre-ico because if the pre-ico can be successful we can predict when ico goes on or running, because if it's directly on ico without any pre-ico it will be very difficult to predict whether it will succeed or not, even though who held a pre-ico also is not necessarily guaranteed for success, but at least we already have a strong foundation when the pre-ico is finished.

Pre-ICO or ICO is less effective in raising funds, because the trend of investors is now , so i will prefer a regular ICO

in pre ico you will only get higher discount but the success of the coin is always depend on purpose
if your not sure in the thing you invest even you get high discount your not guaranteed to gain profit

In my opinion no,the chances of surviving now will be very less for ICO and even IEO is great threat for ICOs so you may splint your investments if you really wanted to invest on presale  but my view will be just go with IEO which has the reputation and HYIP or just buy the already existing coin.

I use to invest in ICO in 2017 at that time the ICO market was very active, in summation of the project ICO campaign was the Private sale, Pre-ICO and Main ICO in the case of Pre-ICO participants its advantageous because the Bonus are intact and the unit price of the project tokens was much cheaper, unlike the Main ICO period the price was already fix with no Bonus or whatsoever. I advice to participate in early period to avail more bonus. Pre-ICO or Regular ICO is different so choose the better.

as long as you are aware that you are making a bet with bad odds of winning and NOT making an investment, you are ok to invest in ICOs however you like. but if you have the delusion that you are "investing" in a "project" then i have to warn you that you are being fooled and you need to think again.

now with that said, placing a bet pre ICO is a bet with a much higher risk but a bigger reward if you get lucky and win because they will give you a discount. if you are a gambling person and have been bored of gambling in normal gambling games then go for it.

Generally pre-ico are much more beneficial than the regular ICOs as the time interval between the two are less, generally below 6 months and the price difference are great.
The token when being listed would start around the ICO price which gives you a window to grab the profit for your coins.
Investing on ICO are generally unprofitable as the token tends to lose price on being listed on an exchange.

A pre-sale is generally not open to the public, during which less than 10% of the suggested hard cap is reached. These funds provide a lot of operational costs and also used in building infrastructure for the company. ICOs are open to the public and gather mass finances for future development, infrastructure & working capital.

You generally should invest only if you trully believe in what the company is offering.

For the last 2 years I have been in the pool of investors from different countries of the world. We go to projects approved by the pool only at the pre ico stage.I believe that for the successful launch of ICO, a pre ico phase is simply necessary. Not all projects have initial capital. If the project is successful, then early investors get the most benefit.

If that's your question, I don't think that there's still plenty of people who are into Pre ICO.

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Unless if that pre ICO is made by facebook or any prominent company that's reported to be eyeing for the crypto market.

pre ICO always have a huge bonus and i think thats normal,, if a project didn't have enough fund to develop the project in early stage
but i think the amount of tokens or coins thats sale during the pre ico stage should be reduced and maybe not more than 5%
to control the price after the tokens tradeable on exchange

Honestly, pre-ico is something very limited most of the time and they are giving out such a big discount that the pre-ico prices are almost always funded very quickly even on the most stupid coins to ever exist and thats why you will have hard time catching it, however the reality is that if you want to really catch a pre-ico then you will have to react too quickly and invest into them on the first day which means you will not have time to research all of it, if you can't research with proper time then you will not know everything about the project and will be funding them blindly.

So, the options are getting discounts for an unknown coin or getting no discounts from a well researched coin. I would prefer the well researched one any time of the day if you ask me.

Pre-ICO are certainly more profitable than the regular ICO but you should also consider the time your funds are going to be held. The longer your fund holds, the less would be your profit as you'd be missing the possible profit your funds would have made. Otherwise there's nothing in regular ICO that makes it better than pre-ICO while pre-ICO delivers you more tokens for the same price.

For every genuine ICO, there will be a pre-ICO. Although not every ICO that organizes a pre-ICO fundraising is genuine.
Most of the times, investing in pre-ICO is like taking a risk most especially when a project does not yet have much assurance of succeeding. Sometimes a project might have reached its softcap during the  pre-ICO.

developer is need money for developt the project using ico way for fundraising money.
but many ico project are ended not what we expected and even the product they're developt is just like trash.
nothing any different for me beteen Pre-ico and ico if i think the project are good i don't for investing money in Pre-ico or ico stage

Pre ICO is a great opportunity to get into project that you have selected. Moreover, you are getting tokens for a cheaper price, but anyway people prefer to take part in IEOs at the moment and not in STOs or ICOs.

Thank you so much for your detailed feedback. As i am part of a team planning an ICO it is very important for me how people like you think about this topic and currently we would also prefer to not do a "Pre ico". The argument you gave is one of the main reasons for it.
At the end of the day a project can only succeed if it is able to attract investor that believe in the product. All others just dump their money right away after reaching an exchange.

PreICO is only a marketing strategy to attract more investors that they will buy for much better price, huge discounts and so on.

I am only waiting when we will have Pre-IEO or Pre-STO  :D ;D.

Hey thanks for your feedback.

Dont you think the Pre ICO is part of the scamming problem?. You promiss a nice product but then you give discounts. Dont you think that a ICO that believes in its product shouldnt give any discounts?. I do think to take around 5% of the total coins to get Bounty Hunters promoting your projects is more effective than a pre ICO dont you think so ? .

Cheers

Personally i like only only crowdsale or one main ico, i do not like different tarrif for different investors as price is cheapest for private investors then comes cheaper price for pre ico investors and finally there is normal price for ico investors, this kind of crowdsale not only causes confusion among investors but after the ico coin fails to find a stable price and keeps dumping because there is no known price as some have got better deal than the ico investors.

You mean presale? If yes,then these things are common because projects will really give out discounts for early investor and this
is also some sort of making their sale attractive when the project decides to give out some good discount or bonuses.

So you are a Pre ICO Investors that loves the discount to later sell it for profit when it comes on an exchange ?

I do not prefer any.  I would rather buy on the exchange.  Lots of ICO today do not get into exchange and lots of investors that invested on that project are frustrated because they suffer heavy loss due to this thing.  Though there is an exemption such as, if the group creating an ICO is well established and known in the market.

i don't think any IEO campaign are don't need Pre-IEO phase for attract investors interest investing in the IEO.
if IEO launched from big exchanger they don't need do Pre-IEO for increase investor

Thanks for you feedback. So the key what you say, is the problem, that ICOs dont hit exchanges. Do ICOs that are already in application processes with exchanges attract you more?

if really want invest in coin/token from new project i'm prefered to buy after they listed on exchange,  because like you said, i don't want take a risk for investing money from untrusted project and developer

In pre-ICO there are much more attractive offers becausethe project is not developed, in this point they only have plans to the future (whitepaper). In ICO they should has at least MVP to satisfy investors.

You are right, why project also offer better discounts for Pre-ICO or Private Investors is because they are always required to investing in relatively large amounts not comapred to ICO where there is usually no minimum investment.

If you have enough funds and you like this particular project, you can join at pre ICO stage to get tokens for a better price. Usually, projects are requiring at least 5-10k USD and such an investment is called angel investor.