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If you don't mind, I've already messaged theymos asking him to blacklist me from DT1 but when I think about it I probably don't want anything to do with DT2 either.

This one goes out to most people that have me on their list without us actually interacting through a transaction. My collectible peeps can keep me on, most of them left DT anyways  :)

EDIT; I will not answer any questions in this thread.

EDIT2; Happy 4th of July to all my muricans out here!

Now who's going to support our abusive flags, cycle merit and usurp the forum? :'(

Please don't step out of the extortion circle :(.

Hhampuz, I like you a lot so I’m not going to agree to ~ you for now because I’m hoping this is just a temporary feeling you have, mate.

I’m going to give this a while to see if you change your mind. Sometimes emotions can be raw & we make reactionary decisions.

I hope you’re OK any way, I’m always here to chat via PM if you need a pal.

Don't get me wrong, I am doing better than ever and this has nothing to do with anything besides me just feeling like this forum matters less and less each day that passes on. Getting rid of the "responsibilities" of being DT and what not would just make me feel even more free :).

Second that what said @LFC_Bitcoin.
Wondering why few well reputed members want to leave trust system. I will not ask any questions but I would like to suggest reconsider your decision. Since you are on DT1 means people's voted you and they want you on DT network. Stay calm and turn cool your mind. I don't think this is a wise decision. Although it's your personal decision but I will not welcome it.

Funny how many people want to leave since Theymos decided to let scammers run free with his shit new system.
Bet he won’t react to senior members just walking away, unlike his reaction to loonatics like Thule and TAA/cryptocunter

Marlboroza tried that (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5108783.0), but it didn't work (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-06-29_Sat_06.02h/787736.html). Even you didn't remove him from your Trust list.

I didn't exclude marlboroza and I'm not going to exclude you.

That's an interesting choice, I would argue a Trust list doesn't necessarily have to do with personal transactions.

There's too much drama. I would argue the users who don't like the drama should stay on DT1 instead of leaving. DT1 especially needs level-headed users who dislike the drama.

I'm not sure that you really have any responsibilities being on DT other than leaving accurate feedback--and you were never a serial scam tagger anyway, so I wouldn't worry so much about that.  It really is a mark of respect people have for you that doesn't come with many obligations as far as I can see.  You're a good guy and deserve to be on DT--even if you're detaching from the forum.  

You've probably given this a lot of thought, so I won't advise you to think it over.  But I really don't want to exclude you from my trust list, bro.

Fully agree.  DT should be loaded with more members like Hhampuz.

If only there were a way to add someone to your trust list without adding them to the central trust list...

(other than using your alt to do a depth-1 trust and then trusting your alt, which is also not a great solution)

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Unfortunately, drama will plague users whether they're on DT or not. :/

I love you hh but this is a bit of a dick move to get yourself out of DT:

https://i.snag.gy/IZiE1J.jpg

You didn't have to do that.

You can easily do what I did.  Identified a few idiots and ignore them.  Made all the drama go away, and left them mumbling to themselves for a while.

What would you do if a major new client wanted a banner campaign with a manager on DT?

Don't burn your bridges.  :)

I suspect this is a pre-emptive distraction from the incoming Livecoin drama bound to unfold...

We endorse hhampuz being excluded from DT.

The reader of this thread should have some background to consider.

TMAN you mean highly probable scammers such as yourself and your friend lauda (well he is a proven scammer)??

Senior members that are abusing the trust system to line their own pockets will not be missed at all.

Let's take a moment to read over some observable instances from Tmans and hhmapuz own histories.

First TMAN.  

The reader should be aware that TMAN has been involved in prior behaviors such as these mentioned by one of the most TRUSTED users on this forum ognasty. We quote ognasty below in red

Harassed user zeroxal as part of a confirmed and documented extortion scheme.

More details on the situation can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1764757.0

TMAN used minerjones to anonymously auction a KIALARA and then attempted to manipulate the auction by stating, "wow this has to be a record low for a sub #100 serial. if I didn't have so many I would be snapping this up"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1931778.msg19286369#msg19286369

Admission it was his auction:
"Dude I haven't crossed paths with OG in over 6 months, it wasn't until he derailed my auction hosted by MJ that this kicked off."
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1946142.msg19349060#msg19349060

He also claimed I was trying to "pretend" my casascius coins were loaded: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1945817.0

He then sent BTC to my publicly known address unsolicited and claimed I was trying to self escrow: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1946305.0

I don't trust this user, and his behavior on this forum in the time period from 6/2/17-6/4/17 should make that clear to anyone.

Not to mention this dumb ass admits he has never made an original thought inspiring post that he will dare present for analysis. He claims his MERIT SCORE is warranted due to his ENTERTAINMENT value with comprises of some childish swearing and sexual deviance smeared all over the board. He has no merit. He is a low functioning untrustworthy dreg that deserves no merit at all.

Even THEYMOS has excluded TMAN and his dumb ass scamming friend lauda from DT.



Next let us consider hhampuz.

1. He refuses to be transparent regarding his selection process for his sig campaigns. Thus opening himself, his projects and those he employs open to criticism and doubt. Putting the entire board at possible risk under certain conditions.  WHY NOT BE TRANSPARENT??

2. He supported the doxing of a forum treasurer. The doxing was provided by the idiot VOD posting here in this thread (that should really be banned for such a stupid and vicious attack)

3. There is a matter of 0.5btc possibly being stolen from a project that he was working with. He has not answered to clear this matter up even if it is not true. The truth is still not known.


So yes, it is best HHampuz is excluded and so should TMAN and Lauda.

We notice suchmoon is here trying to snipe at Theymos again who she back stabbed in public because he DARED to SUGGEST that we don't want PROVEN scammers and trust abusers on DT. LOL  Some believe this is an alt of lauda.

Actually this entire thread is full of those that are SHADY or support or have supported in the past SHADY individuals and included them into DT.

The reader should take note that these SAME people all seem to be creaming off the BEST PAID sig spots on the board and therefore not so happy about the new trust system that essentially rolls back their power to abuse and game the current systems to ensure these BEST PAID spots go to THEMSELVES.

Good to see this bunch crying about the new changes that mean you can't give out scam tags to whistle blowers any longer.

The reader should exclude Hhampuz not just because he requests it, but because you only want those that are willing to be transparent and honest. Same for TMAN. Get these dirt bags out.

I just said I've messaged theymos about it, and I'm here asking people to exclude me. There really is no point for the usual suspects to show up and beat a dead horse. My god, do you really not have anything better to do?  ???

Signature campaign selections don't need to be transparent. "Putting the entire board at possible risk" seems like you're seriously hyperbolizing the direness of the situation. If they're hired, they're hired.

Quality of a participant is the most important thing but I don't expect Hhampuz to give me a detailed breakdown of how he gauges quality and how every single participant was selected. That would be ludicrous.

Contrived accusations through assumptions via circumstantial evidence are interesting... but answering every accusation is quite a chore especially for someone so "popular".

This user is currently ignored.

Is the best feat. in the forum about Blah blah things from CH.

Guess this is a never ending story with him !

@Hhampuz

I dont exclude you also as many others , sry !

Tman seems to have nothing better to do. We are merely giving our opinion on the correct actions of excluding you. Plus our reasons for believing this is the correct action (supporting you goal of removal) and informing the reader of the background of TMAN  so that they may reach the optimal opinion themselves. Tman is pushing (we believe) incorrect information on your thread. Do you want that to stand unanswered?

The reader must be given all available information to allow them to form the optimal opinion on such matters. Anything thing else is sub-optimal.

We support your exclusion. What more assistance can we give? sorry for helping.


@actmyname

This seems off topic. However, we maintain that you are INCORRECT to claim we are seriously hyperbolizing this . There are far wider implications that you may not have considered. Especially with instances where initial distribution of tokens could be involved as bounties.

We believe first you should read some of our prior posts where this was explained in detail and there was no refutation. We already discussed this with HCP on the hhampuz possible stealing of 0.5btc thread.

We wish to say that our point still stands and that hhampuz should be excluded.

This is not the thread for that debate. If you read our prior posts (very recent with hhampuz or on his thread) and are not satisfied then we can start another thread to debate it with you.

I'm sure many of the DT that enjoy being part of the "select few" that seemingly are auto eligible to new highly paid sig campaigns have a low expectation of the trouble the current sig campaing managers should be expected to go to regarding the selection process. Not that we say you perhaps of all persons on this thread would not be suitable even should the entire board be give FAIR and EQUAL consideration. We find you to be of a far higher quality than most even if we have found you to be in our opinion incorrect in a few instances.

We risk having the post deleted if it goes off onto campaign manager best practices. This is hhampuz wanting to get excluded. We endorse his desire to be excluded.

Sometimes if you want to be in a position of trust you must face many chores to cast aside reasonable doubts of other members when called on to do so.

I think this may be a wise decision..

You are a fine businessman/worker here on the forum but I don't much like your politics in some cases so think you could do well to stick to your business and stay out of controversies..
Anyone from any side becomes a target of their antagonists when they involve themselves in forum political drama so it may be wise to stay right out of that and do your own thing, especially someone like you with employment to lose.

My ~ is meaningless soo....

I think it is more likely that someone is telling him that he is wrong in regards to his handling of the LiveCoin flag, and keeping the signature campaign open, and/or that I was not wrong for messaging those in the LiveCoin campaign to notify them of the now active flag.


I think Hhampuz should have done the right thing and close down the LiveCoin campaign. I get that the ~quarter BTC is a lot of money to earn from running it every month, but there is a good amount of evidence that LiveCoin is acting in a way that a reputable person should not want to be associated with -- preventing customers who publicly criticize the company from withdrawing their deposits -- and no amount of money should compromise his (or anyone who is participating in the campaign) ethics. If I were in his situation, I would most certainly be unhappy about having to give up that income, but I unequivocally would have done the right thing.   

I am able to confirm that he is correct about this particular rating.

His opposition to the LiveCoin flag (and a number of other flags) is questionable though.

Is this true?
If so I might seriously think about getting into the campaign business..

Yes for the LiveCoin campaign. Although the campaigns that Hhampuz runs seems to always pay more than what others run, have much more liberal posting requirements than campaigns run by others and other campaigns have no problem attracting other participants into their campaigns. The only exception is ChipMixer campaign that has been running for two years with the same rates.

You can draw your own conclusions, but I have privately speculated there are some shenanigans going on.

I really like and respect all of you who posted here in support of Hampz , but come on ya'll..the man doesn't want to be DT1 and I sure as hell can't blame him.  Respect his wishes.  DT1 comes with so much unnecessary political nonsense and drama..I don't know how it doesn't drive ya'll fn crazy.  Just setting my custom trust list caused more headaches in a couple weeks than I could have ever imagined.   Some of that DT1 related politics.  The man want's no more of it, why not respect his wishes? 

Hampz DT2 is where it's at. Your trust matters (or it did, I am not up to date w/new rules in that regard yet) with out all the nonsense.   

Looking forward to reading your fabricated nonsense you call "evidence".

It is understandable that not many people want to appear as being responsible of flags, trusts, etc ...
To be honest, running a business and being involved in this place's politics is a very tight spot.

I believe at some point there is this "tipping point" in recognition where you don't need (and don't want !) to be in DT anymore.
Maybe this is it for Hhampuz. Hh definetely doesn't need to be in some list saying people can trust him. He's beyond that now.

Once theymos let users like you into DT it was all over. All credibility of the system went out the window.

Well the votes for DT say a different story fella. Democracy over. Dictatorship and you keep getting voted out, perhaps if you weren’t such a narcissistic Cunt it would be a different story

It's odd, then, that you should take any part in such a system.

Hey can you guys keep it down? I can't read over the deafening sound of you jerking each other off.

I hear ya yogurt. The fact that he has to battle to get off DT1 is fn nuts tho! Theymos should create an easy system to be able to do so.

If you love something let it go, if it comes back, it was meant to be  :D  #FreeHampz

Goodness what vivid fantasies you have.

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@Hhampuz, not excluding you, but no longer voting for you, hope that is good enough.

Says the only guy with just about as many exclusions as inclusions on DT1..... I don't really think you are in a position to lord over anything anymore. Nice try though. :P

There's no need to battle, a PM to theymos suffices. Or if you're less in a hurry, just wiping your Trust list (or making it less than 10 inclusions) is enough to be removed at the next update.

Not sure if it's been pointed out so far, but Hhampuz has withdrawn his support for the Flag he created against Quickseller (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=56):

56 Active. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=56) (Withdrawn!) Hhampuz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=881377) flagged Quickseller (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=358020) (type 1, see why (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153480.0)). Supported by Vod (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=30747), Foxpup (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=55384), Lauda (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=101872), minifrij (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=138940), babo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=65636), yahoo62278 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=355846), chronicsky (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=353680), LFC_Bitcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=379487), redsn0w (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=211419), The Pharmacist (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=487418), yogg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=140827), Lesbian Cow (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=206143), mindrust (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=176777), nutildah (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=317618), marlboroza (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=787736), TheUltraElite (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=878630), bob123 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=579628), Timelord2067 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=131361), IconFirm (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=841288). Opposed by  TECSHARE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15728), BayAreaCoins (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=137773), Quickseller (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=358020), iwantapony (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=815246), lighpulsar07_alt (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1752216)[/size].

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After the grief I received from @marlboroza (https://web.archive.org/web/20190705133704/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5108783.0;all) when I said I wasn't going to give that person distrust, I think I'll respect Hhampuz's request for distrust.

If/when they lock this thread and rescind the request, then I'll gladly remove the distrust.

In the meantime...

Ahh. Well, this is news to me. My apologies, not that I was making this seriously personal with anyone (you know that though) . Just seemed like a very flawed system. I was under the assumption he had messaged Theymos as well.

He did:
But theymos hasn't been online (https://archive.is/gdcoJ#selection-347.0-351.26) since the creation of this topic.

Everyone the DT mob disagrees with seems to be "as bad as cryptohunter" now days. Cryptohunter wishes he was as effectual as I am.

No just 2 cunts with a similar level of retard fella. There is no mob, just a few people who speak off forum, some memebers of the forum “mob” aren’t even in the off forum “mob”

Mind blown for you pajeets hey

Another example of how you create more drama, when trying to leave the drama....

Everyone should have the possibility to leave DT (1and2) if they want, it's just a personal choice. It's sad to see more people leaving but I agree that now it's bigger mess that it used to be with the old system.

I don't really care how you characterize yourselves. You have one set of rules for people in your club and one set of rules for people outside your club.

This manufactured drama and wild accusations based on no evidence is getting tiresome, and this is the effect is has; we've lost another good member from DT.

I would encourage anyone else feeling fed up of all the frivolous allegations and personal attacks to just ignore the users responsible and move on. It took a long time, but thankfully the vast majority of people are now completely ignoring cryptohunter/The-One-Above-All, and the forum is a much better place for it. I would thoroughly recommend everyone to do the same to all the other users making personal attacks with no evidence for personal reasons, rather than getting worked up and leaving DT over it.

If someone makes a claim/accusation with no evidence, the onus is not on you to disprove it or deny it. That's not how the burden of proof works. Unless they can provide evidence worth discussing,* then just move on and don't feed the trolls.

*Note, evidence does not include speculation, assumptions, "A source told me", "I think", etc.

the reader should be aware that the oeleo is talking shit.

The observable instances we have presented regarding hhampuz are independently verifiable. He is ignoring us like all the others we like to demonstrate are simply low functioning scum all spamming sigs to earn their btc dust.

hhampuz is also saying he will oppose any flags of a project that many members including many DT have raised high risk financially dangerous warnings against.

It could be that because this project is paying hhampuz 0.25btc per month (according to some members) that he will protect them against valid warnings. This is placing in danger the entire board in our opinion.

Others are free to investigate this themselves.

What happened to ALL THE DT MEMBERS crying for powers to scam tag people that MAY ONE DAY BE A FINANCIAL RISK TO THE BOARD BASED ON WHAT THEY CONSIDER WARNING SIGNS LOL.

Another reason why hhampuz should be excluded from DT.

Hmm.. did I say I would oppose any and all flags against the project or did I say that I would counter every negative given to any of the PARTICIPANTS in the SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN?

For someone that spends so much time here, you sure could learn how to properly read something but then again, what to expect from mouth breathers.

well did you not oppose the flag against them? we thought we saw your name on the opposition flag?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=308

what happened to your bullshit that you need to flag people BEFORE they even do something financially high risk or shady?  you are still advertising this because you are getting paid. You have supported flags that ARE FAR FAR FAR LESS related to financial wrongdoing scum bag.

Yes your exclusion should be a black list from theymos you dirt bag.

Trust abuse both ways you filthy piece of shit.

Oh, mouth breather really hit hard didn't it?

When did I say something about flagging people before they do something financially high risk or shady?

@theymos, when blacklist?

Wow few weeks off visiting the reputation baord and here we have another worthy DT member leaving the system thought this act would had die with the old system. You were among the very first users I added to my custom trust list but since it's your wish to leave, I can't denied you that, (~ detrust) done guess I have to replace you now with someone else. Goodluck on trying to restore Livecoin exchange's reputation and you got my vote incase you decide to return into the system. Everyone's decision should already be respected to avoid abuse of the system involved, be it merit or DT.

The most awesome post I have ever read in the forum so far, just two sentences and everything explained in crisp clear detail. Of course this is the impact a truly respectful member of the forum should have and not like the dickheads of ownlcatz , TMAN and a few other idiots. Keep it up guys because this forum needs more but a whole lot more objective members compared to the subjective assholes that have over run the DT right now.

Aaaaaaand it's done. Blacklist from DT has been taken care of now I'll lock this thread and I would appreciate that if you ever had even an ounce of respect for me then please respect my wish here and ~Hhampuz.