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HELLO GUYS

First i will like to know the input of others because this could be the first step we take to solve the problems affecting the price of coins, for bounty hunters.
Personally it has affected me when budgeting because participating in a bounty i first worry about getting paid for my work, then i worry about the project being a success, then i also have to worry about the price of the coin rising or falling then i worry about the percentage rise or fall. But basically both parties are to be blamed; most bounty hunter think about making profit before the success of the project itself so bounty hunters sell their coin at any price available which is the major cause of dumping. further more project are sometimes listed in corrupt exchange which simulate the price of coin to favor them and maximize their profit.
what do you think? and how can we fix this problems ?

This is a major issue and i think it all goes down to the project itself being below average in terms of the solution it proposes or the problems it hopes to solve.
Good projects have all the right elements, from good platform, to a great team and also a very good marketing strategy.
If a project has all these, they dont have to worry about the tokens dumping when listed on s cryptocurrency exchange

Friend ,before you start saying that both parties are to be blame please I want you to think very well, tokens or coins we get from bounty projects are just 4 to 5 percent of the max supply of the project now tell me how can selling or dumping 50million tokens from a max supply of 1billion tokens devalued the token? Its because the project is not good enough ,the teams are not professionals they claimed to be

i think that work of cryptocurrency has changed a lot from January 2018 when the price goes to another level and people are not interested in ico anymore and lot of ico are lying about how much they collect example ironx,brain space  so all ico now are not hitting x2 or x10 when they get in trade idk about ieo

to fix it with old way it can still be used, which is locking in rewards from bounty participants in a matter of months (3-6) but of course there will be protests from the bounty and also if this applies the project must focus on developing the project (listings on good exchange, give update to their project progress, and do a promotion) maybe it will raise the price of tokens / coins from projects that have bounties.

locking bounty reward is quite a brilliant idea, giving investors time to make gain and in doing so helping the project, no one will want to sell below ICO price

but i think the question of how much is raised is public information

If the market is not in good condition many of tokens or altcoins get dump after listed it on exchanges because it depends what market you will list or bitcoins price is not in good condition also.

That is already common in arbitrary ICO projects, they make ICO projects to benefit from investors, this is what makes investors no longer trust ICO projects and prefer the IEO.

The main reason for the dump is very large discounts on the first stages of sales of coins. Projects offer a 90% bonus for first buyers. in such a market, even 50 percent of the profits is enough for people and they sell their coins right after listing

I think most of the altcoin dump when listed in exchange is because they are not worth enough to buy. and because of that there is not enough buyer in the market. and sure bounty only take 2%-5% from total allocation but when the market doesn't have enough buyer then what do you expect? you right most of bounty hunter can sell the coin for cheaper price as long as it valuable for them. but if the project itself have the quality to be on the crypto market investor shouldn't be worry at all about bounty.

I think that we will not be able to solve the problem of the fall in the price of a coin, because this should be done by the team at the project development stage. They must calculate all possible risks associated with the dump prices of their coins, develop a strategy to support their coins after listing on the exchange, allocate a certain budget for buying coins on the exchange in case of a strong dump. If they do not do this, then it makes no sense for the project to expect growth and development. I know several projects that supported the price of the coin and did not allow it to fall sharply while the project was developing and when they launched the finished product, the price of coins began to grow due to the growing interest in the project.

I am afraid we cannot fix this problem as we know that when the tokens already distribute to the bounty hunters, they will sell it right away as soon as the token get list in the exchanges.
They don't think to hold it for more because they need the money and they want it from selling the token.
And if the price of the token is down, some of them will buy the token at the low price and sometimes the price is low than the ico price so that will their benefits to get a very low price.

only stupid bounty hunters sell their coins immediately after listing on the exchange. I only participate in those projects that I consider promising and I am building a portfolio for the long term

we learn everyday, can you enlighten me on how you access a bounty, because I sometimes access a bounty get involved and it turns out to a pure waste of my time. Tell me the things we to really consider apart from the obvious things ?

The main reason to this is that the market is in a brink condition and many of altcoins are affected to this and so the dumping status can be seen after listed it on exchanges. Because depends on the exchange rate partner when they are not in good condition and so the coins will be affected too.

When a coin is listed on an exchange is the first opportunity for holders to sell. And a lot of holders bought with the intention to realize profits.
Obviously, not every investor buys at the same price. We have different rounds, pre-sales, private sale, secret sale, undisclosed sales, etc.
Someone will always have an upper leg on the exchange.

There are several reasons for that and the most common are bounty participants, because they know that within the first half a year price will likely go down, so they are dumping at the beginning to earn at least something.

Bounty allocation is so little isn't it? Then how can that affect or bring down the price of coin? A good project doesn't bother about bounty hunters, they bother about what to do it make their platform valuable. Okay, nowadays they lock up the reward of hunters but once listed on exchanges the price dumps, who caused it?
The issue is, having the right team with right strategy that even after getting listed and the price drops, within a little time it will pick up again.

the fact is until the market gets better the price of coin will still dump

Noone is interested in buying, nothing has been done yet, there is no reason to buy, only for sell and therefore the price is slowly falling to zero.

Because the project failed to create a good hype about the project that will have traders waiting for the token to list so it lists and there's no market demand for the token causing it to dump.

Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to solve this problem. There will always be people who will sell their coins at once. The only way out of this situation is if the project team will buy back their coins from bounty hunters.

Seems like all new altcoin who has been listed on an exchange the price will get pump and dump scheme. If you see on the coinmarketcap and find recently added (which is mean a coin/token) who added on coinmarketcap then you can look it on several times and you will see the altcoin will be there on top gainer and soon the altcoin will be on tol looser.

In a few times I often to see it and got weird because the new altcoin always popping up but there is an investor who bought it. Whilst the bitcoin market has gave a promising view and deserve to be choose as first investment even you will be rich if you choose one investment only i.e bitcoin. But yeah the high risk will come if the investor doesn't have a high patience and lack knowledge to the future of cryptocurrency.

The major fix is promoting projects that have better potential for profits or growth. Here is an analogy to consider: Imagine you participated in a particular project bounty and it ends up being listed on a huge exchange (binance as an example) most persons will not be in a rush to sell off as there is a good potential for growth. You also need to consider the bounty tokens in relation to the total tokens sold, if the ratio is significant, activities of bounty hunters are like to affect the coin.

Each project must have a strong community first before entering the exchange, because usually prices drop due to a lack of trust in the project, so many token holders who prefer to sell it even at a low price

Its all depend on ecosystem for project, if this is useless coin than whats you says is right, get worse by bounty hunter..

There is no problem even if the bounty hunters sell their coins, if the project has a buyback mechanism and the project has potential in the market for a long haul, tokens that continue to drop their price are fly by night project and will not likely to stay on, if the project is good they have the confidence to bounce back.

Bounty hunters spends months to advertise a project so they want to immediately sell cryptocurrency that they get so their hard work get the results that are worth it. Actually this problem will be solved by buy back system, so the price will not fall too deep. Other method is by offer coin holder a passive income if they hold the coin for certain period.

This is a very complex problem. To support the success of selling a token, a good strategy and collaboration are needed. If the project is really serious in developing the product, it will continue to provide support as long as the coin is listed. One effective method is to include coins or tokens in several exchanges so that I think there will be an offer. The role of investors and developers is also very important, strengthen the wall so that prices are not a dump.

You want to fix people dumping their altcoins? there's no solution to that unless that altcoin becomes a great store of value just like bitcoin.

I get amazed when I see people say bounty hunters are the major cause of dump, how would you even think of that when most times, bounty allocation is as small as insignificant when compared to their total supply, have you guys thought about privates investor who get as much token for very cheap price? Have you also thought about the exchange where it is listed, is there volume there?

it’s just my opinion

There are 2 factors:
1. bad and not reputable exchange like Latoken, Exmarket or P2PB2B.
2. no news from project´s development

the truth is people don’t buy what they don’t need,  let’s say Uber comes up with a token for their service are you saying with low publicity it would sell? My point here is you need little publicity for quality coin

there are some things that make the price of coin will go down when listed in an exchanged, that is :
1. investors begin to not trust the project, because the team does not provide information about the progress of the project
2. the bonus obtained by investors during private sales and pre-sales is very big
3. the supply given to bounty hunters is very big, so it can affect for the price in market (exchange)
and how to fix it by making the project more developed (has progress), so that investors will trust to invest in the project and of course it will make the price of coin from the project will increase very high.

about the exchange you are right about that, I recently participated in a a very promising bounty (migrant) then they listed on an exchange (idax) after listing the price dropped X100 less the original price, after proper investigating it was realized that the exchange is a scam exchange evening the project didn’t get the due funds after ICO, in a situation like that the exchange is the major cause.

not only bounty participants my friend
but early investors too, because a lot of project give a huge bonus to their early investors, especially for private sale investors
for now, a lot of bounty tokens locked in some period time, but a lot of project still down in price after listed on exchange buddy

For some case i found that team or developer selling their coin when listed on an exchange. I had some experience with that. Join some ico and the price drop after hit the market , then we (investor) knew that team and developer sold their token there. quite ironic if the team did that while the community try to stabillizing the prize

I can think of only 2 main reasons why the price can go down when the coin/token is listed on an exchange.

1. Investors selling their tokens/coins
2. Bounty hunters selling their tokens/coins

Both of the listed reasons show us that there are people selling their assets which is why the price goes down as soon as it is listed on an exchange.

It takes months to erect a building, but it takes days to destroy Developers takes days to gather investors and accumulate the fund to promote their project while same investors destroys the project value within minutes.

Do you know that 80%  of those who invested are there for the profit and not to stick with the projects? Each and every one of them all have their profit goal set, some are okay with 10% increase, some 20% and so on, and the moment they actualize their goal, they will pull out their fund immediately from the market and dump it.

Few people who are probably greedy and waiting to take millions from it, or those who are passionate about the project are the ones left behind, and the moment a project enters an exchange, it could take just few minutes for them to witness an increase in value, and the moment there is an increase, there are so many investor that has already placed sell order down, and the moment there is massive dump, then what do we expect to happen to the coin value? It will dump seriously and the value becomes far lower than ICO.

If a project is really strong, the amount of bounty for them is just a small number. So they can buy back that bounty tokens without affecting the token price. However, most projects with bounty now encounter this problem, hunters will dump at any price. To fix this problem, only the project team can do it.

I think the dump in the price of a project after exchange listing is down to two factors which are
Ridiculous bonuses given to pre-sale investors and tokensale
Lack of a viable product to back up the tokens.
These are the major reasons tokens dump after they get listed.

That is true, bounty campaigns sending tokens few months after the end of bounty campaign with lock-in period. So how can bounty hunters cause a dump?
The team is responsible for the dumps! Their behavior, progress and so on.  :)

This question has been answered numerous times on different thread here on btt. The price of token drop because of many reasons. Sometime it may be as a result of token dump by hunters and investors that receive huge bonuses. Also, the price dump can be as a result of manipulation by the dev team. This is usually noticed from the first batch of transaction done immediately the token is listed resulting in listing at the price far below the ICO price. Also, listing on batch exchange can also be as a result of price dump. When there is no demand for the token but rather people are selling