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Hello Bitcointalk Community,

i wondered if it is possible to do an ICO and an IEO at the same time?

Can i spread the total supply for fundraising and use half of it for an IEO and the other one for an ICO ?

I am looking forward to an response.


Kind Regards


Marian

Are you part of a team trying to do token sale? If yes, what's the essence of holding both ICO and IEO when you fully understand that IEO has an edge over ICO. why not find a reputable exchange and hold your IEO there, rather than doing both ICO and IEO.  The ICO will be a waste of time in my opinion.

Let me be quick to add that many inventors are now wary of ICOs. So, it will be mostly a waste of your energy trying to indulge an ICO for your project. Like the poster above me said, IEO has an edge on ICO. Again, IEO will ensure the investors are better protected against any scam than an ICO which is highly unregulated and prone to scams. I, for one, will always treat an ICO like a disease.

Look, the reason why IEOs became a thing is that investors got tired, disappointed, and scared of ICOs. Many projects before you still tried to run an ICO but failed miserably and switched to IEO. Maybe you are tying to save from the fees charged by these exchanges but you may end up losing more if you do an ICO.

It was a headache for us as well, what type of tokensale to take. Eventually we decided to go different way. Tokensale is possible only when you show a real real real work and you actually don't need investors money much. From another angle you need funds for development.
Try to think global and find another way rather than making a tokensale or selling your equity to big investors.

I don't think I have ever seen a company do an ICO and an IEO at the same time, mostly because that is redundant, they both achieve the same purpose.

Nowadays, ICOs only work for the very largest of projects that already have a solid user base already and some serious marketing power. IEOs are the easy way to succeed.

That said, some projects finish their ICOs and then launch an IEO after, though the IEO will often fail if the ICO wasn't very successful.

Hello Marian, ICO is almost dead and investors are already hopping to the new popular investment in projects and that is through IEO.
The purpose of IEO and ICO is to get sales so whether you conduct both, I don't think that it's going to be effective though possible.

Not well versed with this but I think it's possible.

Technically possible. I think that's what makes this market a little dangerous. I know some projects are launching ICO for the 3rd time. But if you ask what it is good. I don't think so.

I think it is impossible if one project start ICO and IEO at the same because in general I saw the project first starting the ICO and when the ICO was finished they planned to start the IEO, but remember, not at the same

It’s not advisable to run both at the same time; but instead there can be a pre ieo in stages
Then a proper ieo fundraising event.

Or better still, a pre ico and a proper ico crowdfunding event.

Dyor always before investing 

What's the essence of doing both ICO and IEO? One is OK and the best option between both is IEO.  Right now nobody cares about ICO anymore, many have been scammed in the past and everyone is drifting to IEO because it gives assurance of listing and also some level of surety since exchange verifies the team.

I do not think this will ever be possible, every project have to make a decision to either go for ICO or IEO and with the latest trend today IEO is leading. ICO nowadays have a very low chance of ever succeeding hence the reason why IEO is a better option and choice, in addition to its absence of exit scam.

Even now there are more ico's, and with the existence of IEO the entire ico's weren't left. Depending on the team is the ICO and IEO, some prefer going with an ico while some prefer IEO. Recent days IEO has gained good popularity and the tokens were getting into trading within a very short time period which won't happen with ico. For some reason as users stated IEO at present has got some edge over ico.

I think it's possible as long as the team is able to handle IEO and ICO simultaneously, both technically, promotion, and financing. Because both of them certainly requires not a small amount of money. However, in my opinion, if indeed the team has a large cost, it would be better if you just do the IEO by using the money for listing in several exchanges that are already trusted and large. This will be more profitable and convincing potential investors.

It's possible but it's not a recommended way, as far as i know about the fact the investors still prefer to get the ieo right now and if you are being greedy to sold all of your coin and then the investors will never be interested with your offer.
They will consider that as a money grabber only.

The purpose of ICO & IEO same right? The project wants to sell the token with other platform examples like an exchange, but IEO has more than advantage than ICO. The token allocation all reserved to the team, if they want to do that then it's their strategy. Just curious, do you want to make an ICO/IEO. If yes, I'm a bit surprised because the part of the team asks this kinda question, they should have a marketing team and know that they are doing.

It doesn't make sense at all, in a business model point of view. I would rather choose one, but at this point IEO should be the best options as investors are shunning away from ICO because of so many scams out there. So if you are part of the project, I would advise to go for IEO only.

Why do IEO and ICO together? Isn't it just making team developer projects increasingly spending more money? I agree with the opinions of some of the members above if it would be better to focus on one of them but really totality and ensure that the coin will be truly worth it to have. And can choose a good exchange all.

yes ... that can be done.  but I think, today investors prefer the IEO than the ICO.  this crowdfunding model can only be done by active exchange users.  although ICOs make more money than the IEO, but ICO often becomes an opportunity for fraud.  and that makes investors worry about losing their assets.

in some cases that I have seen, ICO and IEO are not done together,
but usually the IEO is carried out after conducting an ICO and the target is not reached, in this situation the project usually tries to switch to the IEO so that the funds collected are on target.
but there were also those who conducted ICO private sales and success, but also carried out the IEO.
so if at the same time I don't think there is, but if the IEO is often done after the ICO and I often see the case.
I hope this helps.

Some expert says don't put your money at the one place, I believe with these words. Investment is the risk place to save your money, your chance only have 60% to gain profit with investing and the rest you will find a lose when your investment place doesn't give you a profit.

But you have 80% to gain money if you devide your capital choose several places. Divide your capital 50% for investment place A and 50% for investment place B. But I doubt with ICO project, maybe it will be better if you choose IEO project to store all your money.

Yes it's possible, have seen some projects where they did an ICO first then an IEO. Quite possibly, you can also do an IDO as well (lol)

Most of the responses are comparing IEO and ICO. Many are correct that IEO is the prevailing trend these days. ICO is a thing of the past more or less. But it is not the question of the OP.

The question is whether it is possible to conduct IEO and ICO at the same time. I guess it is possible. I cannot find a reason why it is not. It is actually up to you to conduct an ICO over IEO or IEO over ICO. So it is also up to you if you prefer to split it up between ICO and IEO. You may also do it simultaneously or one after the other, but preferably ICO before IEO.

very possible because there is no harm in raising sales more so ico who do not get funds continue to move to ieo and get enough funds, so if you want to combine ico and ieo it does not matter

Its possible for a project to conduct an IEO and ICO but IEO has upper hand than ICO so don't expect quick sellout from ICO,it might takes months for the ICO to sell out

You can do whatever you want but I wouldn't recommend because it will look like unfair practice running two crowdfunding campaign at the same time and secondly I highly doubt any reputable exchange is going to allow you to run IEO and ICO and the same time.

if seen there are many projects that do both but not at the same time.
they even pre-sales, ICO and finally the IEO in the market exchange before starting direct trading.

but for those who started both at the same time I thought no one had done it. and I don't think it has a big impact, people will definitely be more interested in buying on the IEO than the ICO.

I don't think it can, isn't IEO and ICO a different system. yes, maybe between IEO and ICO is the same system, but in their work program there are very different differences when they do fundraising from investors.

Well besides from them even IEO will successfully finish they can't list there tokens in those exchanges they list on different exchanges i meet already this situation at my past so many times listed on ieo but after token selling the token can't tradable there.

Of course that something possible. But doing ICO and IEO at the same times is really waste time. team working on 2 of them. Why not focus on one of them. Right now IEO is more populer. And look like investor more interest on IEO.
you can choose popular exchange like binance , gate.io , or bittrex to host IEO for your coin/token

if you really want to run both simultaneously, of course there must be coordination between the development team and the exchange that you want to register for the IEO.
because for me if I have done an IEO what is the point of doing an ICO again because both are the same thing, but the only thing that distinguishes the is system .

Hi, i think NO, id never seen any single project that they have both, but they only broadcast IEO on their website when the token sale is done in an exchanger, but they have private token sale, IEO is the best term nowadays and it catches the attention of the investors rather than having an ICO or anything. The best way possible is not to use ICO, since its is not popular this time, investors do prefer IEO.

what is the reason for you to do the IEO and ICO together?  It is clear that the IEO is better for crypto investors, we see from August 2018 until now because there are a lot of ico scamming the crypto community, investors are afraid to put a lot of money in the crypto project.  in my opinion the IEO has the opportunity to attract large investors.

I have seen some projects doing an ICO first, before going for an exchange for an IEO,  one example is DEXAGE and this could become a practice, I don't like this idea, it's pushing the project funding timeline to its full limit, they should just choose between the two, if the project is good it will be funded, ICO or IEO.

This way sales may be possible but I think it is unethical. It is also possible that sales made in this way will cause trust problems in the eyes of investors. Regardless of this type of sales, it is a fact that if the project has a good interest, the sales will be completed quickly. But whatever the outcome or the quality of the project, I think that only one sales method should be sold to the public. As a result, the major investor can gain a large share of both sales methods and have market control. To summarize, yes, such a sale is possible, but it is neither ethical nor reliable.

they move not only based on team thinking. I am sure some investors will certainly provide input by means of their sales. IEO or ICO is not a problem, but IEO however is now the best way to see good projects.

It is true what you say, that it is usually after the ICO runs and has been fulfilled or not. then start continuing with the IEO. many new projects seem to overcome and use methods like this and I think it's legitimate.

What is the reason for this complicated scheme? Use this new IEO hype, forget about ICO. People are bringing their money to IEOs now - so use this opportunity :)

Now on the crypto market there are projects that first conducted by ICO, and recently conducted an IEO. So it seems to me that in the simultaneous implementation there will be nothing extraordinary.

Your project has to be fully established to be able to make good sale with ICO, the era is gradually facing out, though I have seen projects that started with ICO and eventually did IEO but not still very successful, go for IEO directly and spend some good fund to get it on good exchange

However, it still is a good idea if the project is really serious about the success and hate to fail. Running an ICO to collect some funds and to prepare for the IEO in a well-known exchange. Believe me, that the strategy is quite good and not a bad idea to do it.

I have only one question , now ieo is very successful in raising funds , why do ico , I think with a good product and on a good exchange you can raise good funds

Don't be like other's project were they've started from ICO then after that, they will proceed to IEO in which is not right in my opinion.
Because for me there is something fishy about that style, they are making fool of their community through that way. I don't see a project that open up ICO and IEO in one system, well that's not possible.

So you will use the IOC funds you've generated to do an IEO because of the hefty fee these exchanges are charging, it looks a pretty good idea but if your project cannot gain support from the ICO it will not gain support from their IEO stage either, in the end it's the ICO investors that is going to lose here.

Why should it not be possible? I have seen companies do private pre-sale and ICO at the same time, and IEO on several different exchanges at the same time, why should it not be possible for ICO plus IEO. Maybe some investors just want to keep their things easy on one place,,, maybe others like to invest without kyc?

Yes, you can run both at the same time, but nowadays  IEO is preferred and from investor perspective IEO is the way to go.

Yes, IEO is the new version of the development of new projects that was needed. Ico is not very reliable, you can just buy a lottery ticket with such success

no one wrongly performed IEO and ICO at the same time. but I don't think it will have a big impact on the project. investors will definitely choose to buy from the IEO rather than at ICO, so doing ICO and IEO together is not a good choice. it's better to do it sequentially. presales> ICO> and lastly IEO.

Actually there are some who do this already and if not simultaneously, one at a time. Its not a good option cause, investors will be split. They rather buy on an exchange rather trust a website platform for sales. This isnt decentralized and transparent. Though exchange isnt but more reasurring. Better pick IEO its one of the best way to purchase coins.

I only know that there is a private sale first before IEO and if ever you do both ICO/IEO, it is going to be complicated for many people to understand. IEOs were basically created to make FOMO because it's only done on a day but it can finished in minutes or seconds. While ICO last many months to give people more time to buy so less FOMO. If ICO is done first, then people who will see your IEO won't like it because the ICO probably not sold all  which happens everytime. But if you do IEO, then it will also not go rushing to buy because they know there is still going to be an ICO.

if you have held an IEO, why should you also hold an ICO? even though the tokens sold at ICO can all be sold in the IEO, I think that will be more in demand than being sold at the ICO, because now the ICO is less interested

My recommendation, you choose the more dominant ones. Now days many people drop their choice to IEO fast, precise and efficient

This is already happening and some sales are being made in several stages with IEOs in different exchanges

According to me yes, it can be possible but However, over time specific drawbacks began to rear their ugly heads. Fake and fraudulent ICOs left investors in the lurch, which meant genuine projects were soon facing more difficulties during the funding and marketing stages. As a result of these challenges, the initial exchange offering (IEO) was born, offering a significant improvement over the ICO model. Now that IEOs have hit the scene, it makes sense for investors to learn how they work and, more to the point, how to rate, analyze, and review these offerings. Moozicore is also an IEO and became very successful. Moozicore goal is to evolve places such as bars, restaurants, gyms and any other entertainment venues by creating personalized, social music experience for each customer. https://tokensale.moozicore.com/

It is a wrong combination of crowdfunding program
But I have seen it happen before

Projects such as hiway and xcrypt who had previously participated in icos, did another crowdfunding in the form of ieos too

Icos then ieos, does not guarantee success
Good projects guarantee success; so dyor

The aim of ICO and IEO is to raise funds to develop new projects, you can now see new projects running ICO and IEO.
There are many ways that developers can collect funds from the sale of tokens, the IEO will be registered in the new crypto exchange and this situation will add to the competition from several exchanges to set lower prices in terms of withdrawal fees token or coins

The answer is yes, it's a great combination. for example, it is a potential project and it is looking for good exchange like Gate or Bibox to be offered to sell tokens on exchange. Meanwhile, Exchange will start fomo in its community and the project will increase a large fan base.
After that, they will continue to open ICO with a better offer to continue raising additional funds to pay for listing fees. This is a very good strategy to keep a lot of money to develop the project.

There is no point doing both, you can only do one at a time, because if you do both, you will just be seen as a scam, I think I know here you are coming from, probably you are the type starting with zero capital and does not have money to just go for IEO, because if you had the money for IEO, that would have just been the best platform for you to raise fund within few days, but you must ensure that you project is really worth it because Binance will do their due diligence.

If you don’t have money, you can just run ICO first for a very short period, and see if you will get any interested investors, you could just be also transparent to them too to let them know your intention. This was what harmony project did first, they conducted ICO for a short time, before migrating fully to IEO. Hmm Marian, that sound like a lady’s name, now people can see that our lady is not that slow in responding to crypto as they think. I salute you ma’am.

in my opinion less because the project seemed inconsistent because they shouldn't have done anything like that, but chose one whether it was ico or ieo if they took both of them, I was sure they were very eyeing the funds and the impression could be considered scam by some investor

It seems to me that it is necessary to mention the fact that at the present time investors are interested in new projects only in order to subsequently receive a good profit, and not the idea of ​​the project itself.  Thus, IEO and ico companies will have the right to exist, but only in varying degrees of demand.

I think that if they pass not at one time, then yes. IEO can replace presale, I think it would be a very convenient scheme. First round - IEO, second round - ICO. Result: everyone is happy   ;)

It is possible for a project to run both ICOs and IEOs at the same time. Most projects only results to the other means after being unable to raise the desired amount of funds from either ICO or IEO.

And frankly, those projects that are holding both ICO and IEO are somewhat greed for the funds that they will raise. My thoughts.  :P They feel they can't get enough in one source of crowdfunding strategy, so why not hold these 2?

Yes, this is possible. But, due to uselessness, it is not needed. Sometimes some projects try additional IEOs, thinking that ICO is not the right choice. In general, ICOs have begun to decline recently and I guess we will not see them shortly after.

I think the developer team could sell tokens with ICO and IEO simultaneously. But I think it will be more effective to use the IEO method because of the current trend. ICO and IEO simultaneously only waste huge costs.

No it is not possible, you can only do one at a time; that is you can either go for IEO or ICO. As this stage, I don't think ICOs are worth it again as no team is willing to take that path rather IEO proves to a better choice.

Yes it is possible and there were enough examples. As a start, a project has launched a token sale on their own and after they mentioned that a token sale is not doing well, they launch an IEO at the same time to double their earnings.

Agree with your opinion. that now people are no longer interested in ico's project since the many ICO projecks turned out to be scams. this has made many people prefer IEO which is really good and although not all IEOs are also good

We know IEO is better than ICO, but if the question doing both in the same time the answers YES can but i think bad option because maybe coin which sale in ICO will not optimal

Suggest from me if want to do both, better do IEO first, for building trust.

if IEO success that's means many people already know your project so if you do ICO will have potential success too

not all, you can still see BCNEX and a number of other ICO projects that have also been successful, even if the ICO conditions are bad. indeed there are very few ICO projects that are successful now, but there are not too many production and successful IEO projects. therefore the current market growth is not so good.

it is also if the IEO registered in the exchange is trusted that is of concern to investors. for a small exchange I think it will be difficult to get investors, because many are hesitant about fighting with a not-so-busy trade.

It depends on the Point of view of the person with investing anything. I think it could be possible, but it's not an ideal position to be in. Now that people have started knowing that ICO is mostly in the profiting kind (possible scam) you are one to Have significant balances and dump them when there are buyers. I think that's the most common thing that happens. With IEO happenings to the popular exchanges, the participants are likely to choose the most popular coin to invest, but It's just fast.

Bottom line, both are just almost the same, one is in popular exchanges, one is selling for a lower price. The common thing between them is that they are asking for money.

What is the point having both together, ICO is for those that has zero capital to start with, so they can as well go for ICO and then wait for as long as they wish till they establish some sort of success in their campaign, while IEO is basically for projects that already has start up capital, because only projects that has startup capital can pay such amount of money they pay for listing on an IEO platform, but the payment is actually worth it because they tend to meet up with their hardcap within the shortest period of time.

The only issue I have with IEO is that I just feel these exchanges are exploiting more than even in ICO, because I really don’t see what they do to have been taking such amount of money to just list a project, it is the biggest scam I have ever seen in its cryptocurrency market that people are not looking into.

As a rule, projects choose one or the other, often abolish the ICO in favor of an IEO, by conducting a fundraising on the platform of the exchange selected by the project. It makes no sense to hold both at the same time.

In my personal opinion, it is better for you to focus on IEO only. Focusing on only one fundraising with the certain fund will really maximize your token selling. In this case, I mean why you should spend more amounts of money to do both IEO and ICO? It is better to spend the whole money to choose the best exchange for IEO listing, right?

IEO is more interested. Besides new investors can buy tokens directly in exchange, and can also be bought by investors who are on the exchange. In addition, the project you are running has been verified first by the exchange party, so it is trusted.

but I've seen a project that does a sales system with ICO and IEO. they don't do it together at one time. but they use ICO sales when private sale. then presale and mainsale they use exchanged IEO. I forgot the name of the project, but I've seen it.

It is possible that the developers of the project did not get the desired result from ico company and therefore used the plan B. IEO is much higher, because investors will trust the project due to the exchange rating.

I think you are talking of harmony project of Binance, harmony first conducted ico and when they realized that they might not meet up with their hardcap on ICO, they paused the project on ICO and then applied for Binance IEO which their application was granted and they had a very successful project within the shortest time they entered the exchange. I don’t think we have any project that would run the two at the same time except is for the purpose of scamming.

IEO can make a very good project launched in Binance meet up with their hardcap within a very short time because many investor now want to participate more in IEO projects than ICo project,, moist especially the one launched through Binance exchange since Binance makes research in them before accepting.

I think any project placed in this huge pump is growing. This is the principle of this trust. I think the confidence in Binance is overrated. And someone all the same will conduct IEO and steal a lot of money. But we will not guess. Of course, the reputation is the most important in the cryptocurrency market.

There is no need to do that. You should choose one that will be more effective for your project, depending on your feasibility study.
These days, most projects prefer IEO, but I will suggest you do that on a good exchange, in order to attract investors.

Recently I came across one project which started ICO and later as part of phase 2, held IEO.
I am wondering how the total fund raising mechanism was managed by these both systems.

The total amount that already raised in the ICO will be added with the total amount that will have raised through the IEO and i thought that the exchange site will try to cut some money as a fees and will try to send it the rest to the team. This is what im thinking of this kind of fundraising.

It's possible but it will not guaranty success, Dexage has done that they fist held ICO then when they failed to get more funds they shift to IEO, possibly using a portion of the ICO funds to get listed in IEO, they are lucky to get funded on both but it's still will go to the kind of project and the credibility of the team, ICO and IEO can succeed or fail if they do not have a good platform to back them of.

It possible to run both ICO and IEO at the same time but it will make the investors believe the project team doesn't know what they are doing or believe in the concept they implemented in the project and for Dexage which you used as an example don't actually run ICO and IEO at the same time cause they run it simultaneously which still better than running the two once.

Although it's possible but likewise better to focus with the one which really can help you to develop your projects, the demands of starting with IEO's from big well known exchange already getting it's way for more investors to support projects, you need to make a concrete plans to bring something with all investors to trust your projects and support you when you begin talking with the exchange, it's not a small money but if you are serious with your projects you must be willing to do the first move with your own expense.

What is the purpose of doing IEO and ICO together? why not just sell it together at IEO with clear security and investors will trust more, if you do ICO and IEO together it will only reduce investor interest

I think you have done wise actions, and are very careful in investing, as we know that IEO and ICO have weaknesses, so to anticipate these weaknesses, we have to invest in both, I think you are a hesitant investor, according to I you must have the courage to determine your attitude and invest fully in ICO or IEO.

In fact, there are not so many cardinal differences, except for the absence of certain risks. Now the ICO is called IEO, and it will be conducted exclusively on cryptocurrency exchanges. I do not think that in the future they will make a special distinction between traditional and cryptocurrency trading platforms. Both familiar and assets created on the basis of blockchain technologies will be presented on all platforms.

I've never seen a project that does ICO&IEO simultaneously and I think it's not possible and most projects will do IEO if their ICO does not reach the target

There are no restrictions are regard the number of avenues you can explore to raise funds for project, in as much as your project is worthwhile, however, IEO seem to be more effective these day, you can leverage on the reputation of a good exchange to do your sales

Still depending on the capability of IEO and how it impresses investors to have some investment. IEO is spreading as well and the competition seems to be growing just like it happen to ICO before. If we could have them both IEO and ICO provided that it looks promising and can really be trusted to have good market returns.

Even the majority of the IEOs that already listed on exchange sites are doing both at the same time. You can see that how perlin was doing a pre-sale on its ICO before it has listed on the binance exchange site.
Almost all of IEOs did ICO and then after they have cooperated with some exchange sites and they have started to allocate a little amount for IEO.

The only reason that would have made the project conduct part 2 project on IEO is probably because they did not meet up with their hardcap on ICO, and if you look at ICO really, it is extremely difficult nowadays to meet up with hardcap because there are no much investors that wants to deal with ICO again because of the high rate of scamming over there, but we still have people that would take the risk of trusting such project which their money is little compared to what thee project need.

Therefore, they sometimes change along the way to close the ICO after they must-have approached IEO to continue with the remaining funding over there, but I believe the will not start raising fund all over on IEO, they will simply just continue from whatever amount they have raised on ICO.

It could actually be a project to do ICO & IEO simultaneously. But it is not effective to do, people will be confused as to where to invest. To the ICO or IEO, each project will therefore do one of the two options. Because now the trend is IEO, So now more projects do that.

in the end, both ways of selling will be assessed by the project. if the project is worth, of course it will produce positive feedback. however, in this case, sometimes IEO becomes superior depending on where the token is traded. for example like binance. of course there will be very many people interested in the IEO project selling there. it might be superior to ICO.

I must say right away that I saw how companies conducted ICOs and IEOs, but this was not at the same time. At first there was an ICO and then IEO went on exchanges. And that was at the beginning when the market switched from ICO to IEO. Now it is better to conduct only IEO if you are not a popular company.

Well in my own personal view, I think you should focus on IEO, nowadays IEO has an edge over ICO, most investors believe the day of ICO has gone and the new way to invest now is in IEO. Try to apply for host on good exchange with quality volume that can attract Investors. It's much better than splitting into ICO and IEO