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Nr. 1
http://shrani.si/f/M/DA/4Kr59WID/satoshi4.png


Nr. 2

http://shrani.si/f/d/D1/1uidexyV/satoshi2.png


Nr. 3

http://shrani.si/f/2o/vL/1am6ZzXM/satoshi5.png

Nr. 4

http://shrani.si/f/23/kX/3m7kOqmi/satoshi7.png

Nr. 5

http://shrani.si/f/2X/EK/4LNjAcYv/satoshi1.png

Nr. 6

http://shrani.si/f/2t/S9/1ZXcAO2r/satoshi3.png


Nr. 7

http://shrani.si/f/2/5p/3XxGO0Yc/satoshi6.png


source https://twitter.com/sqcrypto/status/1155615251494256640


Which one do you like?
If you have a better suggestion please share with us!

We have BTC why we need another symbol?
It's like creating another symbol for only Ray Tomlinson besides the simbol @ for email.

If you think to represent satoshis (as unit of value) we have already mBTC which works great. The $ sign is same, same sign for cents.

So what will be the purpose for it ?

Such a cool and nostalgic logos you have in there. Sorry for the outdated jurassic graphics made in seconds but i bet this design would work. Here's my version of satoshi symbol. An upgraded one should be better but the idea is great though.

https://i.imgur.com/PjAPiCC.jpg

Well, you know, i expect Bitcoin to increase it's value in the next years. So i think the Satoshi symbol will be more used and more important in the future.

I like the S combination with the @ symbol.  Not many people use Satoshis currently because the price is still too low they are using smaller denominations of BTC like mBTc which is 1/1000th of a bitcoin.  It would be cool to get this symbol added to keyboards eventually.

We are trying to make bitcoin common so current symbol is known now. I mean people know the symbol so there are no point to change it.just my opinion

Its not too low, its actually good. Things in my country are coincidentally now expressed in satoshis, because the fiat is on par with them (but soon its going to be 2 fiat for 1 satoshi) but while we are at it things work just fine:

Drink? 16 000 satoshis. Pringles? 30 000 satoshis, coffee 6 000 satoshis, 500gr of sandwich bread is 20 000 satoshis.

The "Big" stuff is expressed in millions. A 50" LCD 4k tv is 4 500 000 satoshis.

A whole bitcoin is 100 000 000 satoshis, something you might see when buying property or for the national budget i guess.

If you think people cannot live expressing prices in thousands, and millions all the time, you have always used perfect "strong" fiat coins. Me? I'd be glad if they declared the satoshi the national coin and dropped the garbage fiat we use.

I'm going to miss expressing things in satoshis real soon... stupid politicians thinking printing money solves everything, can't wait for a world without government and institutional control over currency...

Oh, i have said this before, anything beyond satoshis and bitcoins is useless, especially mBTC, there is nothing more useless and confusing than that. I particularly condemn whoever came up with BIP 176 (https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0176.mediawiki), DO NOT WANT jaejoon.

The current symbol is best BTC IMO. People can use whatever symbols or logos they like in their apps / websites. Maybe in future where everything is decentralized we'll vote for a new symbol or logo.

I almost posted that this is unnecessary until I Googled the symbols for smaller units of fiat currencies like cents. I was surprised they have their own symbols that is different from the main currency symbols.

I wonder why you think we need the symbol now. It will probably be necessary when spending less than a dollar worth of bitcoin becomes too common?

But these all symbols resembles the USD.

We need to create a design which should not looks like a USD symbol. It should be unique and d the icon of Bitcoin including that. But I am unsure that is there people really caring to see the symbol of Satoshi.

Really? The only one that resembles a "USD" symbol is that of the @$ combination. Unless you mean to tell me that the letter "S" is all that's required for resemblance. ::)

LOL I think this one is a winner :)

The instant we create another symbol we will begin to constantly change the symbol like Fiat where each president and his political party change when they don't like the symbol that the old political party that was in government created. This current symbol is very good and doesn't need to change, it represents bitcoin very well


What do you mean with " sinning "?

Some of these symbols looks too similar to dollar symbol $. Probably many people who aren't aware about crypto much wouldn't notice difference from first sight.
And I don't think that we need to make symbol for Satoshi. Just look at fiat currencies - $,€ and others. Cent or penny still hold same symbol  of currency. Some currencies have symbols for cents, but it's not widely used.

I really liked Satoshi's symbol number 5. It looks interesting, but I think that you need to present more options for choosing the best symbol. ;)

I was quite young when I started with this but do you not remember putting things in terms of 0.00000001 got extremely confusing.

Maybe a symbol for mbtc or microbtc would be interesting since a few microbtc are worth cents now...

mBTC, μBTC? Alternative for the latter is just uBTC :)

The key part of why there's no prefix for satoshi is that the closest one would be nano (10^-9) whereas you would need to do 10nBTC, kind of ugly. Maybe a better answer is XnBTC (using roman numeral)?

My point is, we had btc and then used the BTC symbol? Even something for a nano bitcoin symbol would be good. Or a ubtc symbol.

The lightning network seems to use 10^-10 btc also as its base unit...

Why we just don't represent it like sBTC
That should be enough to know that you are using Satoshis of Bitcoin :)

Edited: fixed some phrases

I like the simplicity of it. Sometimes the best things are the ones that are simple. I also like that the btc symbol is somehow included. It's nice to have different opinions and conclusions. The time will tell if there will be a need for a massive usage of the satoshy symbol in the future.

It is good also to have a symbol in smaller unit of bitcoin. In order for the sats to have identification. I think number is good but it seems like it has a bit similarity with dollars symbol. We don't need to debate it right now because even we selected the symbol for it if the developer did not accept it, then it could be only a confusion to the people.

Apparently this idea has been around for a little while, I like the guy in this article who talks about using a symbol that's already in the Unicode 10.0 spec.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/as-bitcoin-price-soars-some-say-its-time-for-satoshis-to-get-a-symbol

Hmm yes, but Bitcoin should go first not last, as in Bs. ₿s. BTCs. Ironically that's what the Venezuelan bolivar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelan_bol%C3%ADvar) used to use as symbol, quite appropriate given that its descendant (the BsS.) is currently a bit less (but nearly on par) to 1 satoshi.

I'm not a fan of associating the most granular form of Bitcoin as "BS". ;)

This symbol is pretty cool: 𝕊

That's funny! I had the same thoughts about BS symbol. lol I think it's better to find something else.
It would be cool if the BS word didn't exist.  :D

All words should exist. Without BS you would have no way of calling out BSV for the BS that it is ;)

Do we really need another symbol just for satoshis? If so then why should it even be the letter S? The dollar is $ so a satoshi could as well be little B of some sort. like BTC and BTC

Liked forth one but since S and ~ lines are associated with USD dolar, I think it won't be fair to include satoshi in this one despite the fact that his name starts with S because he created bitcoin which is far from USD, a coin made for anonimity, for protecting user's privacy and fast/cheap transactions, it's 100% opposite of fiat and banking system. So to my mind it will be better if there will be combination of B and S since he created bitcoin. Just googled BS logos and there are really amazing ones out there.

Same thoughts!

Why would need for another symbol.? BTC symbol is already enough yet this already symbolizes satoshi and theres no other symbol would fit out.

Looking long term I think it is good if Bitcoin community have consensus regarding this topic.

I was looking for some interesting symbols from Japan, like  サ

Here is wiki page regarding Satoshi unit:
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Satoshi_(unit)

https://i.imgur.com/09gUExD.png
BTCitcoin - https://i.imgur.com/eSiZSaz.pngatoshi <> BTC - https://i.imgur.com/eSiZSaz.png
Bitcoin - Satoshi <> B - S
Please, someone quote my post to here. more symbols would come ... ;D

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Contribute thoughts. I don't know for sure how the results of my work if minimized like the default font size of the forum. If it doesn't look fit, just change the width value(currently is 10).
If I had to choose only the OP list, I'd choose the number 1 for now. That's the best (in my point of view) even though I've tried to minimize the size like BTC symbol and it looks like bubble talk. Maybe if it's made thicker, then the S accent is more visible.

PS: Tell me if this logo/symbol has been made before by someone else, I will add credit. As far as searching, I haven't found anything like this.

Its fun seeing people become obsessed with things that are beyond their control. This is human nature to think and imagine things and thus lead to their own downfall. Do you all think changing a symbol would mean changing anything for the future economy? That lowercase dollar sign with a bitcoin sign beside it has been used to denote satoshi since a long time now even before I ever thought of the same.

It is a pointless discussion anyway. Rather than working together to promote the use of bitcoin people are more interested in drawing new symbols for the smallest unit of bitcoin. :D

I don't know who made them. But I think it's not good enough.

If there is a Satoshi symbol in it, it must contain the Bitcoin symbol.

There is also one reddit post regarding same Satoshi symbol topic
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/ckywkg/my_2_sat_for_the_satoshi_symbol_greek_small/

That's true we don't need anything that will confuse people especially those coming in, we are pretty much ok on what we already have right now, no need to add more symbolism, there's a thread I read that they want to change the name of Bitcoin or it's symbol, that will create confusion and possibly lose all the efforts that we've done for the last ten years.

So you are afraid that somebody will change the symbol of bitcoin? That's never gonna happen! This is not the thread about changing bitcoin. No need for that. Don't be afraid.

I think we already have enough symbols and I agree mBTC is already there so why should we need another symbol for sats?
I mean mBTC is there but only few are using it most of us are still using BTC instead of mBTC so why bother creating another symbol?

I think you just answered yourself. Because no one is using it. If bitcoin goes to 100k or even higher, satoshi value will be more used.
Again, no one is forcing it or replacing bitcoin. No one is saying that this will be official! The thread is about the best satoshi symbol. Why i opened this thread? Simply because i like the artistic side of life and i would like to see some Satoshi symbols. I would enjoy that. No need to be accepted as official symbol.

Anyone in any country that uses the SI-system understands what mBTC means. It's still my favourite unit: not too big, not too small. It's closest to euro/dollar in value, and thus very convenient for "daily" amounts.

That's exactly what I noticed instantly. Although it's quite clever to combine the "S" from Satoshi with the second and third character ("at") in the form of "@".

It looks good, but it's terrible to type.

The fact that Bitcoin can be divided into 8 decimals confused me for much longer than it should have. With fiat, 2 decimals is easy. Anything with 3 decimals is common too (thousand, million, billion). But 8 decimals is just weird :P And it's far too big to count: you can't instantly see the value of 0.0000002 BTC without carefully counting the zeros.

It doesn't fit the SI-prefixes.

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For now, I'll keep using what I've been using for a long time:
BTC (for big amounts)
mBTC (for more common amounts, although I usually add the Bitcoin amount for people who don't understand it)
satoshi (written in full or as "sat") (for small amounts).

Example

I think I prefer sat > s@. It's faster to type and requires the same number of keystrokes, at least on a QWERTY keyboard. For touch typers, S and A are both on the left-hand home row whereas T is a slight movement away from F. @ requires both a wrist movement from the right hand & pinky as well as a stretch from the left hand ring finger to the @ sign.

Good to read all these comments.
I agree that Sats is the common parlance and it's easy enough to write but there probably will come a time when it will require a symbol. Agreed that the $ just won't do and it would make a lot of sense to use a symbol we all have access to such as the   §   symbol

Its really not necessary getting another symbol as bitcoin already has one that isn't contested but I must confess that those are beautiful symbols being put out there

I have a few very important things to point out on this subject.

1: We're not replacing "BTC". We're discussing a new symbol to represent the unit of BTC, "satoshi". We have a symbol for $ and ¢. It only makes sense to have BTC and $@. Additionally, other denominations of BTC , bits, etc., can coexist with satoshis as useful units.

2: the $ symbol is used for some 20 currencies around the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar) I think for many people around the world '$' is understood to mean "money" in general. The sat symbol ($@) is not a shoutout to our fiat friends, its is a symbol of a new kind of money, decentralized internet money.

3. $@ could potentially be aesthetic and functional. I image sending bitcoin could be as simple as sending an email: "1000$@alice". One idea is to not have a designated $@ key on the keyboard, which would create significant hardware issues. Instead, you could produce the sat symbol by typing the two characters, "$@", consecutively, which would then automatically be converted the sat symbol. This approach would require only software development and would likely not require keyboard changes.

4. Creating a completely new symbol for sats is not a menial task. I personally believe that $@ is very intuitive and has great potential. However, I also understand the appeal of using a character already in Unicode.

5. The satoshi symbol should emerge organically, in true bitcoin fashion. Developers and users should feel free to use whichever symbol they feel best represents the satoshi.


If you think $@ is a good option, please consider sharing and contributing to the project! https://github.com/bitficus/theSat (https://github.com/bitficus/theSat)
https://github.com/bitficus/theSat/raw/master/TheSat.jpg

I would like to mention that 1 Satoshi is now worth more than 7 national world's currencies.

Surely. So it's time to make it official for some small country

If these symbols you presented is for the preparation of 1 satoshi = 1 usd in the future, I would go with the first picture, my guts are telling me that it's a decent design and a very attractive one, but maybe with another color.

The rate at which bitcoin is growing, I am sure that in the next 10 years, the number of currencies that 1 satoshi would have over taken will be much, the moment bitcoin supply goes near zero, the price of bitcoin would be so high that many people would turn to satoshi then , and I am also sure that by that time, 1 satoshi may be equals to 1 united states  dollar, and this may really bring about the end for the American dollar.

By the time bit coin stabilizes on I usd dollars to 1 satoshi for life, many country’s would prefer to hold it than holding the United states dollar, and also rely on using it for more of their operations oversees than changing their money to the united states dollar. Anyway, I am eagerly waiting for that period also that I can boast of having so many satoshis.

So you are saying 1 BTC will be equivalent to 100 million USD? I think even John McAfee might consider that a bit too optimistic. I guess if the dollar completely collapses and the inflation rate goes through the roof maybe.

I'm thinking that the best symbol presented was number 1. I mean, it's not that the symbol says a lot but behind it, the explanation gives a good background to where does the symbol came from. Probably not the 'superman'-like symbol :P.

Instead of a symbol we can just use units that are already approved by the IUPAC , we have some like micro denoted by (neu, weird u) , but unfortunately we don't already have these symbols in out Google keyboard but at the same time they are internationally recognized and we can actually make a good use out of them
This way we can without any problems get it to be recognized in the market preety fast.

My country is SI based, i use millimeters all the time. Its not about figuring what it means, its the inconvenience of it. 1€ or 1$ might sound convenient to YOU, but you forget those 2 coins also have TWO decimals. This is where all this discussion came about in the first place: 1¢ as in cent, which happens to be the unit before the mili, as in centimeter.

If you wanted to be SI compliant, you would have to use the word 10 nano bitcoin, which is much longer than saying 1 satoshi. OR you could say a 0.001 micro bitcoins which is the same garbage as mBTC.

There is ZERO inconvenience in sticking to satoshis. But there IS is you use mBTC, you force people to ask one or two questions: How many Satoshis is that, how many decimals that was. AND, you are using reasoning that will become moot over time "that it looks like €", because bitcoin price will remain forever locked to the €... So what are you going to do if bitcoin price goes 100k or 500k?

The mBTC was proposed as a BIP and i totally reject it. Only bitcoin or satoshis is enough, for now. If they ever expand to 16 decimals, another one will be needed. Even the one being used by LN which is 12 decimals might need a name...

But not mBTC, that has no place anywhere, it only creates confusion, i recommend anyone to avoid this.

At this time, you need about 150 million of my country's fiat to buy 1 bitcoin. We are no longer on par with satoshi, that was last week. This week you need one and a half bolivars to buy 1 satoshi. Everything in the street is expressed in those prices, things normally cost 10 thousand or 100 thousand, it is perfectly normal and easy. 1 bitcoin is 100 million satoshis, or 150 million bolivars.

Hyperinflation is always used as text book example of economies that would switch to bitcoin. But in reality we would be working with the satoshi, as 1 bitcoin looks incredibly impossible, when a monthly wage here is perhaps 25000 satoshis. Some of you euro people probably earn a quarter or half bitcoin in a month...

That joke coin is even better than our fiat. Game money, such as that from games like WoW is far more valuable, and that has no blockchain or protection of any kind, its pure printing worse than fiat. Anyone living here that doesn't manage to get any income in any foreign currency, is in trouble as the "socialist" State isn't going to save you by giving you some left overs once a month you are supposed to eat from.

The best symbol for the Satoshi is only BTC,because that is the original and already popular that's why I think no need to have another symbol for satoshi. BTC is enough even bitcoin become more and more valuable in the future. But if you really need my opinion,I will choose the first logo stands for satoshi.

No. 1: Many crafts are offered, from all variations of the symbol that contain the name that created the bitcoin the term "Satoshi" comes from the first "name" of the Bitcoin figure, Satoshi Nakomoto. I hope this symbol will facilitate the introduction of bitcoin to the public.

No. 4 satoshi symbol is great in style and meaning so therefore it should be suited to the coin. I bet there would be a day that the bitcoin developer team would pick a logo, a time that when 1 satoshi is worth a dollar, so they should be ready in all times.

I agree on it is really cool.  Kinda unique and somehow refreshing, soft to the eyes and it makes you stare at it. 

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I do agree, I think we need a symbol for satoshi just like USD and cents, they have their own unique symbol.  Using mBTC or other stuff seems too long  as a symbol for me.

The main logo character is easy to reproduce so i like logo consist with $+@.
Looks great)