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So here is my story which is not ended yet.
I open the trade for 1000€ (SEPA EU)
Everything was ok until few days after the trade, when the seller was saying that he didnt recieve money.
I send money from Slovenia via postal office which are using services from bank called NOVA KBM. That way i sended money for almost any trade that i made on LBT and never any problem with it. It arrives ussualy in 2 hours or next bussines day.
The seller tried to blame me that i didnt follow rules of his trade (he had only reference writen) bla, bla, bla
He also blame my bank "post office" and tried to get me there that i didnt send money over bank, but the situtation is like that that post office hasnt bank options in Slovenia and they send money over Nova KBM.
Now its almost week since i open dispute and somehow he is playing me around. I dont know if he is good scammer or money really didnt arrivied. I asked post office and bank and they said that money has 100% arrived and they also give me confirmation of my transaction.
I really dont know what to do, becuase 1000€ is not small money and i alredy lost 100€, becuase BTC price has dropped.
Any advice?

This says it all. Obviously, the seller scammed you.

Asking, if where and what platform did you use to make a trade between the seller, is it a p2p or some p2p exchange.

Also, this thread doesn't belong here. Scam accusation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0) is the right board for this.

When i send the money i get original ticket where all details are showed and that is confirmation that i sended money, but i went to the bank and they gave me even detailed transaction confirmation.
I made this on Localbitcoins.com website and its under dispute, but seller is giving to the support (i think) fake screenshots of his transactions and chats with the banks, becuase i contact "bank support" on the same email that he recieved email and no response for few days, but they reply to him almost instantly!

Im sorry for posting on wrong board.

Thank you for any help and if someone else have other advice please give me, becuase i dont want to lose hard working money....

EDIT: I just wanted to trade full time with BTC and this happens to me :/ I hope that admins of website will research and see that im legit buyer....

I wish I nor we can help, but only localbitcoins can help with this issue, make sure you explain all and give the necessary details to localbitcoins support so they can handle this issue properly and so you can get your refund or the BTC you're going to buy.

Thank you for you words!
I hope that will result right.

Can i just leave the topic open if anyone have any idea how i can beat agains that kind of scams?

Thank you

Yeah, leave it open.

Have you sent these information as evidence of your transaction in the dispute? If you have not then you should give all these details and ask localbitcoins.com to contact to your bank to verify the information.

Check if the seller gave you wrong details, even if he does then it's his fault, not yours.

I think localbitcoins will take some times before they settle it. If you are clean then I do not see anything for you to be worried.


Good luck bud, I am following your post.

Yes i sent all this to localbitcoins admins in duspite chat.
Great idea. I will ask seller if he can give me his details again so i can compare with my transaction.

Im not worried so much as im angry, becuase im loosing money becuase of stupid dispute. BTC is dropping.

Thank you. I will post every new information here also.
Also im leaving localbitcoins if they give him dispute and going to take seller in cort, not for the money but becuase of principe.

Thank you all!

Do everything in their platform. Do not do anything in telegram or any other platform.

I am not sure about your situation but if you have bought those BTC to keep for long term then do not worry. There is a better future is awaiting for BTC holders.


This literally means you are making their job easier for them and taking care of it for yourself. Nothing will stop them to make a wrong decision (if you are the legit owner of course) in this case. Do not tell them anything that they never asked. If you want to do something then you do it when is the right time.

Thank you for advice.
I was angry and write this about cort (i want to keep it for myself) on dispute (but i ment serious)
So i dont provide them with any other information that they didnt ask for it? I try just to help them and make them easier. Do you recommed that i communicate with seller over dispute?

Yes BTC is dropping but im planning to keep them, and i could buy them now for 9400€ instead of 10k+

Do not take anything from me as granted but if I was you then I would keep conversations in between me and dispute team at this stage.

I understand but if you are planning to keep them for long term then you are good.

Thank you for your moral support.
I really need that, becuase i hate that type of people who want to get easy money without hardwork.
I just saw that he is banned. So i guess im not the only who is target of scam. Im just waiting for the dispute to be resolved. I will keep you updated

https://i.ibb.co/m0sPh54/banned.png


Guys, please be careful when trading online with anything.

Good thing LBC staff did notice and make their move, now rest assured your funds will be refunded (hope so).

You are welcome.


This ^
I would say, it's a positive sign for you. Let's hope that you will get the coins.

good Luck.

UPDATE: Todays we got this email (https://ibb.co/vPnrYHF) and had to ask my boss if he can leave me 2 hours before end of my shift  >:( so i can get confirmation from the bank.

I will update you.

Thank you again

I hope you are moving towards the right direction.

Can you please help me by looking those bank statements?
Its weird, becuase dates and balances are not matching.
I draw the lines what i found suspicios.

https://ibb.co/XbN23Vw

Whats your opinion?
Thank you so much for your help!

I do not have much idea bud plus the language is not what I speak too. Since it's about date, I would say keep the time zone in mind.

Thank you
I will keep this thread updated.

My friend, why are you doing this kind of trading
when you live in one of most crypto friendly countries in the world?

Im using Localbitcoins for long time and never had any problems.
Yes you are right. Slovenia is one of the most friendly country for crypto.
Im also mining at home and it doesnt cost me alot for electricity and internet connection.

Is it? I may lend a hand of friendship to you and move there in future :-P
(joking)

By the way, you have luck bud being in such country. There are a lot of people who struggles because they do not have legal permission to use crypto. I hope someday all those country lift their restrictions.

Hehe you are more than welcome :)
I hope so too. Becuase im planning to move in on the such country.

Update:
Yesterday he was asking why support is asking again for the bank statement and he said that he will send it today in the morning.
No response from him until now and its almost half of the day past.

I will keep you updated and i would like to thank you for every positive word.

You mean the guy who was selling the BTC? Let him handle his things. I assume you have sent whatever they asked for. As long as you did you part, you should be okay. Let's wait for the response for support.

Yes the seller didint provide the bank statement that he promised he will send it today in the morning.
I got message from localbitcoin support:

Your account has been suspended from trading because we have reason to believe that you have acted in violation of our Terms of Service. We will lift the suspension as soon as possible once the reasons for the suspension no longer exist.

They asked to:
1. verify my ID (i alredy did that when register)
2. Photo of selfie with ID and note with username and todays tade
3. Photo of utillity bill
4. Photo if my ID held up in from of my computer screen.

I send them everything.
Its little bit akward that they required that, but it must be becuase of this situation with the seller, becuase i had never any problems with trading with other sellers.

I will keep you updated :)

Now the seller provided me bank statement that is not that admins have asked and i think he is just wanna get time for the weekend
and also i would to ask you if you can check this screenshot, becuase he sended 2 documents susposed issued by the same bank:
https://ibb.co/CJNLzf4 (and they have same spot on the same place, and there is not this number on second statement.) Please tell me what you think.

Seller said: I could not send for the bank's work schedule is from 9 am to 2 pm and they requested them at 5:30 pm, however I send here on Thursday that seems not to have reached the mail. And if you need the bank statment again I can send you the Monday that opens the bank from 9 am to 2 pm
Becuase of that i think he is just wanna get time for the weekend

I do not understand why the seller is making contact with you? He is suppose to response to the LBC dispute team since the dispute team is handling the case now. He needs to convince them. Same way, you need to talk to the dispute team as well. If dispute team is okay with his time buying then you can not do anything. I know it sucks waiting for something. Anxiety is a bitch :-P

About the authenticity of the docs, I really do not have much idea bud since I do not speak the language. Also, I am no expert in identifying docs. Sorry :-(

Well he post everything in the chat in which are Admins included.
He doesnt use form to send documents.
He was blaming me that i put documents which he sends and share them here on this forum and i explain to him that i hide all his informations...(Another way that he is trying to blame me for doing something wrong)
Im not expert either, but to have a spot in the same place on 2 diferent documents its crazy.

Thank you

That is why I said do not do anything from your side unless LBC team asks for it. He will try to create misdirection etc. Let him deal with the LBC team and you response when LBC ask. I hope LBC does not make issue about it too.

I see no reason for you to be worried if you are clean from your side. Wait for the team to resolve it. If they ask anything from you then response or just keep watching the progress.

Cheers,

Thank you for your support!
Im just mad, becuase i was planning to do some trading and starting a new journey on my affiliate product marketing, becuase i have week off and just relax from my job  :-\

I will keep you updated

UPDATE:
I was asked to provide the name of bank employe who signed me bank documantion (confirmation).
Do you think that they will finally contact Nova KBM bank and solve this problem?

Thank you

Weird request.

No idea but it should not be a matter for you. Your job is to response them and provide the things they asks for. If you already given the information then wait for the next instructions from them. It really sucks to wait so long but you are doing well I think.

UPDATE:
I got request to record video with "loom" and show ID and receipt.
The same request i was asked few day ago and i send it to them.
Do you think that i should record it again? Becuase i alredy said to them that i have done this and send it to them.

Thank you

UPDATE: Seller was asked the same things.
Now i think i just need to wait.

Thank you

UPDATE:
The seller came here on forum to offer 5€ for fake trusting feedback.
How i can report him? I alredy contact admins under dispute form.
Topic is here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182472.0

Lol.
Im always at this time on forums, news...
I found the topic after few minutes yea. And after i reported it to LBT then i also report his topic to forum moderators.

STP might indeed be suspicious for some reasons...

You claimed the cheater's account was banned:


The account you claim is the cheater has received reviews since then, so how can he be banned?
If he is banned, why would he be coming exactly to bitcointalk to receive positive reviews?

Now, about the quick reaction


So he comes here, posts a message, making sure that everyone knows for what account the trust is...common ::)....and he is gone the next moment and not coming back for hours ...and you catch wind of it in minutes...

2 minutes, sign-up, finding the service area, posting and gone.
Seriously, doesn't this look suspicious to you?


LE:
I still feel like believing your story on what happened on localbitcoins, but this one with the rating buy...nope, sorry.

Yesterday, I reported the "thecomplot" account to LocalBitcoins for buying fake trust, with a reference to this thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182472.0
They replied, being thankful, to my report.

I guess they must have dwelved themselves a little bit more into this account trade/trust history, and they took their decision.

Hopefully this will also help OP to get the scammed amount back.
Best of luck in retrieving this amount !

So let me explain somethings.
I was really shocked with that judges against me.
Im not the owner of any other account here. Moderators please check it if you like.
Im browsing this forum requently and learn alot of things about the cryptos.
I really dont know what i could achieve with making new accounts under other usernames as mentioned before, admins of localbitcoins judge by themself.
I was just asking for help from you on forum.

Thank you, have a nice day

This user dav3m is a proven scammer and was reported to the authorities. Her LBC account was closed for falsification of documents and attempted fraud, please admins close post and make public