I think im being scammed

[david3m]

So here is my story which is not ended yet.
I open the trade for 1000€ (SEPA EU)
Everything was ok until few days after the trade, when the seller was saying that he didnt recieve money.
I send money from Slovenia via postal office which are using services from bank called NOVA KBM. That way i sended money for almost any trade that i made on LBT and never any problem with it. It arrives ussualy in 2 hours or next bussines day.
The seller tried to blame me that i didnt follow rules of his trade (he had only reference writen) bla, bla, bla
He also blame my bank "post office" and tried to get me there that i didnt send money over bank, but the situtation is like that that post office hasnt bank options in Slovenia and they send money over Nova KBM.
Now its almost week since i open dispute and somehow he is playing me around. I dont know if he is good scammer or money really didnt arrivied. I asked post office and bank and they said that money has 100% arrived and they also give me confirmation of my transaction.
I really dont know what to do, becuase 1000€ is not small money and i alredy lost 100€, becuase BTC price has dropped.
Any advice?

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[bL4nkcode]

I asked post office and bank and they said that money has 100% arrived and they also give me confirmation of my transaction.

This says it all. Obviously, the seller scammed you.

Asking, if where and what platform did you use to make a trade between the seller, is it a p2p or some p2p exchange.

Also, this thread doesn't belong here. Scam accusation is the right board for this.

[david3m]

When i send the money i get original ticket where all details are showed and that is confirmation that i sended money, but i went to the bank and they gave me even detailed transaction confirmation.
I made this on Localbitcoins.com website and its under dispute, but seller is giving to the support (i think) fake screenshots of his transactions and chats with the banks, becuase i contact "bank support" on the same email that he recieved email and no response for few days, but they reply to him almost instantly!

Im sorry for posting on wrong board.

Thank you for any help and if someone else have other advice please give me, becuase i dont want to lose hard working money....

EDIT: I just wanted to trade full time with BTC and this happens to me :/ I hope that admins of website will research and see that im legit buyer....

[bL4nkcode]

I made this on Localbitcoins.com website and its under dispute, but seller is giving to the support (i think) fake screenshots of his transactions and chats with the banks, becuase i contact "bank support" on the same email that he recieved email and no response for few days, but they reply to him almost instantly!

I wish I nor we can help, but only localbitcoins can help with this issue, make sure you explain all and give the necessary details to localbitcoins support so they can handle this issue properly and so you can get your refund or the BTC you're going to buy.

[david3m]

Thank you for you words!
I hope that will result right.

Can i just leave the topic open if anyone have any idea how i can beat agains that kind of scams?

Thank you

[AB de Royse777]

Can i just leave the topic open if anyone have any idea how i can beat agains that kind of scams?

Yeah, leave it open.

When i send the money i get original ticket where all details are showed and that is confirmation that i sended money, but i went to the bank and they gave me even detailed transaction confirmation.

Have you sent these information as evidence of your transaction in the dispute? If you have not then you should give all these details and ask localbitcoins.com to contact to your bank to verify the information.

Check if the seller gave you wrong details, even if he does then it's his fault, not yours.

I think localbitcoins will take some times before they settle it. If you are clean then I do not see anything for you to be worried.


Good luck bud, I am following your post.

[david3m]

Yes i sent all this to localbitcoins admins in duspite chat.
Great idea. I will ask seller if he can give me his details again so i can compare with my transaction.

Im not worried so much as im angry, becuase im loosing money becuase of stupid dispute. BTC is dropping.

Thank you. I will post every new information here also.
Also im leaving localbitcoins if they give him dispute and going to take seller in cort, not for the money but becuase of principe.

Thank you all!

[AB de Royse777]

Great idea. I will ask seller if he can give me his details again so i can compare with my transaction.

Do everything in their platform. Do not do anything in telegram or any other platform.

Im not worried so much as im angry, becuase im loosing money becuase of stupid dispute. BTC is dropping.

I am not sure about your situation but if you have bought those BTC to keep for long term then do not worry. There is a better future is awaiting for BTC holders.

Also im leaving localbitcoins if they give him dispute and going to take seller in cort, not for the money but becuase of principe.

This literally means you are making their job easier for them and taking care of it for yourself. Nothing will stop them to make a wrong decision (if you are the legit owner of course) in this case. Do not tell them anything that they never asked. If you want to do something then you do it when is the right time.

[david3m]

Thank you for advice.
I was angry and write this about cort (i want to keep it for myself) on dispute (but i ment serious)
So i dont provide them with any other information that they didnt ask for it? I try just to help them and make them easier. Do you recommed that i communicate with seller over dispute?

Yes BTC is dropping but im planning to keep them, and i could buy them now for 9400€ instead of 10k+

[AB de Royse777]

Do you recommed that i communicate with seller over dispute?

Do not take anything from me as granted but if I was you then I would keep conversations in between me and dispute team at this stage.

Yes BTC is dropping but im planning to keep them, and i could buy them now for 9400€ instead of 10k+

I understand but if you are planning to keep them for long term then you are good.

[david3m]

Thank you for your moral support.
I really need that, becuase i hate that type of people who want to get easy money without hardwork.
I just saw that he is banned. So i guess im not the only who is target of scam. Im just waiting for the dispute to be resolved. I will keep you updated

https://i.ibb.co/m0sPh54/banned.png


Guys, please be careful when trading online with anything.

[bL4nkcode]

Thank you for your moral support.
I really need that, becuase i hate that type of people who want to get easy money without hardwork.
I just saw that he is banned. So i guess im not the only who is target of scam. Im just waiting for the dispute to be resolved. I will keep you updated




Guys, please be careful when trading online with anything.

Good thing LBC staff did notice and make their move, now rest assured your funds will be refunded (hope so).

[AB de Royse777]

Thank you for your moral support.

You are welcome.

I just saw that he is banned. So i guess im not the only who is target of scam. Im just waiting for the dispute to be resolved. I will keep you updated

This ^
I would say, it's a positive sign for you. Let's hope that you will get the coins.

good Luck.

[david3m]

UPDATE: Todays we got this email (https://ibb.co/vPnrYHF) and had to ask my boss if he can leave me 2 hours before end of my shift  so i can get confirmation from the bank.

I will update you.

Thank you again

[AB de Royse777]

UPDATE: Todays we got this email (https://ibb.co/vPnrYHF) and had to ask my boss if he can leave me 2 hours before end of my shift  so i can get confirmation from the bank.

I will update you.

Thank you again

I hope you are moving towards the right direction.

[david3m]

Can you please help me by looking those bank statements?
Its weird, becuase dates and balances are not matching.
I draw the lines what i found suspicios.

https://ibb.co/XbN23Vw

Whats your opinion?
Thank you so much for your help!

[AB de Royse777]

Can you please help me by looking those bank statements?
Its weird, becuase dates and balances are not matching.
I draw the lines what i found suspicios.

https://ibb.co/XbN23Vw

Whats your opinion?
Thank you so much for your help!

I do not have much idea bud plus the language is not what I speak too. Since it's about date, I would say keep the time zone in mind.

[david3m]

Thank you
I will keep this thread updated.

[notblox1]

My friend, why are you doing this kind of trading
when you live in one of most crypto friendly countries in the world?

[david3m]

Im using Localbitcoins for long time and never had any problems.
Yes you are right. Slovenia is one of the most friendly country for crypto.
Im also mining at home and it doesnt cost me alot for electricity and internet connection.