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Title: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: philipma1957 on September 01, 2019, 09:13:43 PM
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https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-scammer-stealing-63-million-brutally-tortured-and-murdered-by-business-partners



Bitcoin Scammer Stealing $63 Million Brutally Tortured and Murdered by Business Partners...




I read a story like this and simply don't know what to say or think.

How about you guys?


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: stfN2128 on September 01, 2019, 09:22:59 PM
damn, wtf. when it comes to money, most peoples haven't their emotions under control. sure, the fraudster deserved it in any way, but on the other hand they have could do it in another way to bring him the punishment he deserves (not in this way, by law) ::)


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: rodel caling on September 01, 2019, 09:32:27 PM
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https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-scammer-stealing-63-million-brutally-tortured-and-murdered-by-business-partners



Bitcoin Scammer Stealing $63 Million Brutally Tortured and Murdered by Business Partners...




I read a story like this and simply don't know what to say or think.

How about you guys?




I'm not in favor of killing bad guys like scammers, but sometimes it happens because people get so angry and  of their  lost. Maybe it is a lesson to the scammers so that they will not do any harm to them stop the bad doing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: rdluffy on September 01, 2019, 09:36:42 PM
I'm not happy with this news because I don't think it's good to kill people in any circunstance, but this scammer guy was not right to steal money from another people
And he was killed by his accomplices , so there's a lot of wrong things, it's a tragedy, the crime doesn't worth in any situation


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: bitart on September 01, 2019, 09:50:29 PM
I think you would be less interested in this news if we just remove 'Bitcoin' from the title, like:
Scammer caught tortured and killed.
Every day, a lot of people, who scammed others are caught, and punished somehow...
If the scammer is not scamming with bitcoin, but any other kind of money, valuable things, etc... it's possible that he/she would get the same punishment from those who were scammed...
That's life, if someone starts to scam he/she should think about the possible consequences... maybe he was expecting some years in jail and after to spend the money happily somewhere on an exotic place...


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Philipma1957cellphone on September 01, 2019, 10:16:10 PM
I think you would be less interested in this news if we just remove 'Bitcoin' from the title, like:
Scammer caught tortured and killed.
Every day, a lot of people, who scammed others are caught, and punished somehow...
If the scammer is not scamming with bitcoin, but any other kind of money, valuable things, etc... it's possible that he/she would get the same punishment from those who were scammed...
That's life, if someone starts to scam he/she should think about the possible consequences... maybe he was expecting some years in jail and after to spend the money happily somewhere on an exotic place...
well they tortured him for a key reveal.  Kind of only can be a btc story.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: marlboroza on September 01, 2019, 10:17:04 PM
Criminal tried to scam criminals, outcome is usually well known.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: figmentofmyass on September 01, 2019, 10:38:33 PM
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https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-scammer-stealing-63-million-brutally-tortured-and-murdered-by-business-partners

Bitcoin Scammer Stealing $63 Million Brutally Tortured and Murdered by Business Partners...
I read a story like this and simply don't know what to say or think.

How about you guys?

i guess when you steal $60 million from your criminal associates, it can backfire. ::)

it sounds like the guy was pretty dumb. he refused to give up the wallet password, which means he probably never even moved the funds when he said he was hacked.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Philipma1957cellphone on September 01, 2019, 11:05:19 PM
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https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-scammer-stealing-63-million-brutally-tortured-and-murdered-by-business-partners

Bitcoin Scammer Stealing $63 Million Brutally Tortured and Murdered by Business Partners...
I read a story like this and simply don't know what to say or think.

How about you guys?

i guess when you steal $60 million from your criminal associates, it can backfire. ::)

it sounds like the guy was pretty dumb. he refused to give up the wallet password, which means he probably never even moved the funds when he said he was hacked.
yeah I wondered if they could see the funds in his wallet. I also wonder if the coins were really taken via a hack.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: CryptoBry on September 02, 2019, 03:03:18 AM


Violence has no place in a humane society that we should be building at all times but at the same time the society should not be welcoming scammers of different types and sizes. Scamming $63 Million is not an easy feat as I am sure this can be involving a lot of victims and when people can be feeling that justice is not that easy to accomplish then there is a big possibility that murder is a big option to some who think that they have been severely aggrieved.

Well, this should have been a big warning to anyone planning to defraud people to think many times over as nobody can actually stop anyone from finding opportunities for murder. Sadly, this happened in India and scams are one of the many reasons why the government is adamant in recognizing the use and trade of cryptocurrency in the country.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: pooya87 on September 02, 2019, 03:07:55 AM
I think you would be less interested in this news if we just remove 'Bitcoin' from the title, like:
Scammer caught tortured and killed.
Every day, a lot of people, who scammed others are caught, and punished somehow...
If the scammer is not scamming with bitcoin, but any other kind of money, valuable things, etc... it's possible that he/she would get the same punishment from those who were scammed...
That's life, if someone starts to scam he/she should think about the possible consequences... maybe he was expecting some years in jail and after to spend the money happily somewhere on an exotic place...
well they tortured him for a key reveal.  Kind of only can be a btc story.

not really.
for example if he was scamming fiat then he would be hiding the cash somewhere and they would beat the location out of him. it goes for anything else too, the security levels and methods of storing the valuables might be different but the principle is the same.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: philipma1957 on September 02, 2019, 03:45:21 AM
I think you would be less interested in this news if we just remove 'Bitcoin' from the title, like:
Scammer caught tortured and killed.
Every day, a lot of people, who scammed others are caught, and punished somehow...
If the scammer is not scamming with bitcoin, but any other kind of money, valuable things, etc... it's possible that he/she would get the same punishment from those who were scammed...
That's life, if someone starts to scam he/she should think about the possible consequences... maybe he was expecting some years in jail and after to spend the money happily somewhere on an exotic place...
well they tortured him for a key reveal.  Kind of only can be a btc story.

not really.
for example if he was scamming fiat then he would be hiding the cash somewhere and they would beat the location out of him. it goes for anything else too, the security levels and methods of storing the valuables might be different but the principle is the same.

Well not to argue but I have never heard of a torture to death a thief that attempted to steal 63 million in cash .   Although I am sure it has happened.

This is a btc forum.  So I started the thread.

I get that big drug lords have wracked and tortured to death many of their associates over big money. But it does not belong here as this is a btc forum.

I figure the dead guy may have a loved one that can access that coin.
I figure he knew he was dead so why give up the wallet.

Next case I figure he knew they would kill him .
I figure he knew if he kept his mouth shut his buddies would never see the coin.
So fuck them and he stuck it out.

Next case I figure it was stolen and he was fucked up for no reason at all.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: BitcoinGirl.Club on September 02, 2019, 04:04:47 AM
$63million is big money and if this was not in bitcoins but in fiats - we would see the same in this case. So, I think bitcoin has nothing to do here.

It's a criminal case. Law is there to bring justice.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: RapTarX on September 02, 2019, 04:16:01 AM
Why did his partners not use multisig wallet? I think it's a story for concealing something else. A group of frauds, who have stolen $63 million, don't know about multisig or the probability of being scammed was also known to them. Why didn't they adopt secure way? I guess this a story bullshit.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: jak3 on September 02, 2019, 04:44:07 AM
Now that's not very nice thing to do. People are affected by the money a lot. The more money comes into the matter the more serious people become , sometimes they even forget the money they are fighting for doesn't exist at all. Banks had ruled over us for a long time so it will take some years to change the mindset.killing someone becuase of something is never an appropriate punishment, you can't just kill everyone for making mistakes can you?


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: maydna on September 02, 2019, 04:56:31 AM
That is what he will get if he scams other people who have the power to tortured or killed that person. That person should be killed and will not have a chance to run away with the money because he will get hunted by other people and will try to find where he is. If the reason is because of money, I think people will killing each other without having humanity and sense of life because they don't want to see other people will trick them into getting the money.

That is a sad lesson for us, and that is a lesson for us too. I hope we don't scam other people, so we don't have to be like that person. We need to use cryptocurrency for a good thing so people out there will not think that the cryptocurrency is only for illegal thing but also can be a good thing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: DenMoor on September 02, 2019, 05:33:17 AM
Well, when it comes to money, this should be expected. Instead of channeling all the energy to killing the scammer, and getting no money back. Why not report at (www DOT primefinancerecovery DOT com) and get your lost money back without payment of any upfronts. It's what I did when I was in a similar situation. It's what you should do then maybe probably kill scammer later.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Kakmakr on September 02, 2019, 06:36:18 AM
In 3rd world countries like India, it is not uncommon to see people taking things into their own hands to deal with criminals. In this case it was not vigilante mobs dealing with the criminal, but his own criminal partners. How nice of them to take him to hospital, I reckon they want him to heal nicely, so that they can torture him again.  ::)

They say there is no honor amongst thieves, so I think this is very applicable in this scenario. If it is true that he got hacked and subsequently lost the coins, then it is justice for his crimes.  :P


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: zviadits on September 02, 2019, 07:43:47 AM
What can I say? It's a shock. In the world of big money, anything happens. I am not surprised that in this case there was such a cruel reprisal. This could happen to everyone, not just people associated with crypto.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: jake zyrus on September 02, 2019, 07:54:03 AM
This kind of article and real life events will only do no good to cryptocurrency. It'll just give crypto a bad image how bad and brutally it could be.

Scammers are everywhere especially when talking about valuable things. But this kind of action like torturing them is still not a good thing even though the victim also did a crime. I don't side on anyone since both of them did something wrong but I just hope this won't affect crypto and bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: boris2470 on September 02, 2019, 08:15:38 AM
It was made out due to $63 million in bitcoin, are you surprised? This is a lot of money, that is why we see such violence


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Jet Cash on September 02, 2019, 08:33:22 AM
If he scammed $63million, why was he looking for a house to rent, instead of just buying one?

I seem to remember that a Russian email spammer was shot by a guy who was fed up with having to delete hundreds of emails every day. If you are going to do these things, then you have to accept the risks. ( unless you are a banker of course ).


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: hardcores on September 02, 2019, 08:50:12 AM
if the data mentioned by CCN is correct then it is definitely a huge amount of money, businesses using cryptocurrency are indeed terrible, threats and losses can occur at any time without you guessing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: jakoylantern on September 02, 2019, 09:00:35 AM
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https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-scammer-stealing-63-million-brutally-tortured-and-murdered-by-business-partners



Bitcoin Scammer Stealing $63 Million Brutally Tortured and Murdered by Business Partners...




I read a story like this and simply don't know what to say or think.

How about you guys?

For me, this kind of article making bitcoin's image so bad, and some people might think that bitcoin is still a fraud and scam. Scamming your business partners worth of 63 million is huge money. Imagine that you are one of his business partners and he scams you taking your hard work money and vanish, I'm sure that you will be outraged. But I agree that killing is not the answer for every scam, because once he/she is still alive, you can assure that theirs a chance that they can bring back your money.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Lapatai on September 02, 2019, 09:22:09 AM
These events happened in India. Right now they are heavily arguing about crypto and Bitcoin. DOn't you think that this article is made on purpose just to stop the crypto spreading in that country?


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: freedomgo on September 02, 2019, 09:23:53 AM
That's a brutal punishment to a scammer, but this bitcoins in the news could be part of the lost coins in the circulation now since it was not access by the gang. Scammer punish by his co scammers, this is not new to me as in the beginning, he already know the risk and  he is playing games within the circle of ruthless people.

The sad thing is his greediness of money did not make him enjoy what he got in the end, and this tells that if money is not use properly, it could be the root cause of an evil act.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Tonteus on September 02, 2019, 09:43:47 AM
Lynching is not the best solution. There's a court and a prison for that


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: cheezcarls on September 02, 2019, 10:47:55 AM
Sometimes we have to think about the worst things to come if we do something bad. Even tiny mistakes would lead us to bigger consequences later on.

There are people who can’t control their emotions once someone has stolen their valuable assets like Bitcoin. As for this Bitcoin scammer, the damage has been done and ended up in a tragic way.

I’m also scammed by many opportunities before. However, I choose to take those experiences as lesson learned, focus on the solution and not the problem, because the past cannot be changed.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: yoseph on September 02, 2019, 10:54:08 AM
This is one greedy guy, How can you scam people out of all this money and then proceed to scam the very people that you planned the scam with and give a lousy excuse that you lost your access to your bitcoins wallet, I hope for his sake that he can get access to wallet becauseI hear Charon is now accepting Bitcoins in the underworld now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Slow death on September 02, 2019, 11:56:35 AM
Does this mean that over 6000 bitcoin is lost, or does the scammer give your password or private key to some of his relatives? This is a case that shows that greed is a big problem, if Shakoor had shared the bitcoins with his criminal group, he would be alive and continue his life hiding from the police and the people he cheated and stole. But as Shakoor was greedy, so he found death very early. The question still remains, who has control of the bitcoins?


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on September 02, 2019, 12:05:59 PM
At first, I though that Calvin Ayre got mad on CSW for not being Satoshi and the scammer got what he deserved* , but then I saw India and things changed.
I still get calls from "Microsoft Support" from time to time so, I can't say I really sorry for the guy. Stealing/scamming that kind of amount of money should be seriously punishable. Of course in this case big part of the politicians should be electrocuted which will never happen..


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: coin-investor on September 02, 2019, 01:23:57 PM
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https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-scammer-stealing-63-million-brutally-tortured-and-murdered-by-business-partners



Bitcoin Scammer Stealing $63 Million Brutally Tortured and Murdered by Business Partners...




I read a story like this and simply don't know what to say or think.

How about you guys?

This is alarming, people who are holding a large amount of Bitcoin should secure themselves, and people should not divulge how many Bitcoin they are holding and even top altcoins, they are holding. Cryptocurrency is now a digital gold, and one of the best investment now in our era.

Even if you are holding a small amount, now if it is on a top coin you should not divulge or boast about it, you never know what people will think now they know the true value of Cryptocurrency now and it's future potential.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Juggy777 on September 02, 2019, 02:51:46 PM
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https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-scammer-stealing-63-million-brutally-tortured-and-murdered-by-business-partners



Bitcoin Scammer Stealing $63 Million Brutally Tortured and Murdered by Business Partners...




I read a story like this and simply don't know what to say or think.

How about you guys?

This is sad and horrible news why do people need to kill, they could have settled the matter in a peaceful way but I guess there’s no honour in criminals. It’s also bad for the community because so many coins are now lost forever, do you’ll think police will be able to recover those coins?.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: erikalui on September 02, 2019, 02:59:37 PM
They were all criminals and a gang and he knew all of them personally. Scamming them of 4.5 billion and then expecting them to believe his wallet got hacked was pretty foolish. After being tortured also, the scammer did not want to give back the money which was a call for death. Still don't support criminals but they all were equally bad. Sad that it happened in India.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Golftech on September 02, 2019, 03:21:47 PM
They were all criminals and a gang and he knew all of them personally. Scamming them of 4.5 billion and then expecting them to believe his wallet got hacked was pretty foolish. After being tortured also, the scammer did not want to give back the money which was a call for death. Still don't support criminals but they all were equally bad. Sad that it happened in India.
Which is expected to happen as his gangmates have its own interest with that scam money. They have all the same flow of bad bloods running around so this scammer knew about this torturing thing. And instead of surrendering his key after the incident, he chooses to keep it and stay with the money even it will take his own life. This act of criminality is not new to those who's greedy with money. They can do everything for the sake of living a luxurious life.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: figmentofmyass on September 02, 2019, 07:50:13 PM
If he scammed $63million, why was he looking for a house to rent, instead of just buying one?

because the money was held in bitcoin, not fiat, and then he claimed the wallet was hacked. for all we know, the wallet really was hacked.

however, this is my take on it. it seems like shakoor didn't really understand how bitcoin works. he refused to give up the password to the known scam wallet, which suggests the coins were still there and not really "hacked". his associates probably just looked up some of the wallet addresses and realized the coins were never moved.

now that he's dead and the rest of the gang can't access the wallet, 6000+ BTC are probably now lost and removed from circulation.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Hamphser on September 02, 2019, 10:06:10 PM
Some people will change when being exposed to a large amount of money but someone must be very angry after knowing that one of their guys was the scammer. I wonder what was the motive of the guy who killed the scammer, it could be someone that he knows got scammed by this scammer.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: leftgirly on September 02, 2019, 10:32:24 PM
The punishment given to the scammer is too harsh although it may go a long way to deter others who want to scam others in the near future. This is murder, no matter the crime a person commits, he/she needs to be given a fair hearing at a competent court of law.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Ferris419 on September 02, 2019, 11:17:32 PM
This is really heartbreaking news. We hate scammers, but killing people is the worst thing in this world. But whenever I got scammed before, my feeling was to kill them badly, that's a common feeling I think. Though I can't appreciate this punishment way but they had no right to steal other people's hard earnings and now every other scammer should learn from this incident.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: sodiik on September 02, 2019, 11:21:00 PM
When viewed from the legal goggles, you can catch the fraudsters, and you do to judge them by torturing and killing. I think you will be in criminal for killing and torture. According to Crypto law has not been regulated by the Government, even we are difficult to prove how someone is doing a scam.

By judging like this, I think it will just hurt you.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: seoincorporation on September 03, 2019, 02:48:27 AM
Well, we can't expect ethical acts from a scammers band. There was a lot of money involved and hope all the scammed people get their money back.

He got killed for $63M, in my country people get killed for $250, so, he plays with fire and gets burned.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: mitchr4 on September 03, 2019, 04:21:49 AM
The punishment given to the scammer is too harsh although it may go a long way to deter others who want to scam others in the near future. This is murder, no matter the crime a person commits, he/she needs to be given a fair hearing at a competent court of law.
people cheat and do scamming to many people not because they are fad, they do it with the intention and that is their job. I will not forgive anyone who stole money from someone else's pain, it is a heinous crime. and must be paid in proportion to the crime they have committed, strict punishment for scammers will make other criminals afraid to do the same act, that must be applied.
The problem with this case is that the scammer was cruelly killed by his own business partner who I think is an unlawful act. They should be punished by the authorities. Unfortunately, those who tortured him and killed him must also be dealt with by law with additional punishment for murder. I'm also curious about what happened to the Bitcoin that they stole because only his dead friend knows the login details of the wallet.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on September 03, 2019, 05:00:32 AM
Since I know bitcoin is an investment place which can be done by all people as long as they want to read and there is many source to be learn by them on the internet easily. Which is mean we don't need someone else or third party when we intend to invest. Just choose the best/reputable exchange and make deposit to our account and also choose the strategy such as long term investment or short term investment, yeah that's all are easy way and even need a few times. But some people only heard the profitable that will get and they easily complacent with what others say. It is just an affected when we don't find more about the investment place character and I will not blame anyone on this case.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Reatim on September 03, 2019, 05:02:31 AM
While I don’t agree on this one to torture someone till death is really not a good action to pay for what he did.but humans has limited controls to their emotions special these kind of people that involving to criminality’s who’s i think killing is their  basic doings.
$63 millions is not a small amount and I think this amount came from many victims and must return back to the right owner..hope this May turns threat to the scammers out there to stop bad habits and just do right things to earn


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: samputin on September 03, 2019, 05:47:40 AM
This is one of the many scenarios which prove that money is really the root of all evil.

Yes, the scammer did something wrong but it is even more wrong to take away the life of another human being. I know that not everyone believes in religion which says that killing is wrong but one doesn't need any religion to know that depriving the life of an individual is not just and humane. I just can't stop thinking, "Where's your humanity?" There is some other way to deal with such situation without using extreme violence.

On the other hand, this wouldn't happen if the scammer didn't do what he did. Fooling people and taking away what's theirs is also unjust. This must serve as a lesson to all and to always find their humanity.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: antisocial77 on September 03, 2019, 05:58:26 AM
He deserved a punishment but its not death.most of us including me invest more money than we own by bank credit etc.this is a risk we decided to take.when someone tries to steal it, its normal to react even its too much.about the scammer, if he did this, he took this risk by fooling people.that risk includes death also unfortunetly.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Sabrin on September 03, 2019, 06:22:22 AM
Unexpected shocking news. Only for money his partner murdered him. Yes, he deserve a punishment but not death.
By the way, this is a perfect lesson for scammers.

Now one question, his partner get back his money or not?


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: michellee on September 03, 2019, 07:10:46 AM
I think if one person tortured someone until death, it is not a good thing but we cannot say anything since we don't know who they are. It's related to humanity, but I think that was really happening in real life is out there. I hope that we don't scam other people and we can be a good person in our lives, and we can give a good thing for them. But torturing other people will not end the problem.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: samcrypto on September 03, 2019, 07:14:16 AM
Killing is not a good solution, now they will face jail and can’t get back the money they’ve lost. I know scammer deserve a punishment but its better if they suffer for the rest of their life and positively get your money back. Bitcoin is not the main reason of this crime, well its greed and more greed.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: RapTarX on September 03, 2019, 08:35:42 AM
Now one question, his partner get back his money or not?
They tortured him to give the private key to them so that they can get back their part of scammed amount. The guy refused to give details, hence the torture. He didn't give any credentials, otherwise, he would not get tortured.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Ruso21 on September 03, 2019, 09:22:09 AM
i have another point of view, not sure about you guys....

1) 63 million is not a small amount, you can't say what you would do because you are not in their position with their thoughts. it's like... you never been in a situation and you don't know how to react, it's not the same on how to think.   
2) it was not killing attempt, it was torture to get the money. They surpassed the torture because the scammer was not giving up.
3) killing will not bring the money back, but they can kill or torture to his love ones.
4) justice sucks balls in most of the countries, by law the bad guys are more protected than good guys. 
5) they can't bring to justice because they are all scammers, so what kind of justice you are all talking?

my thoughts...
1) feel sorry for those who got scammed (victims of those scammers). life sucks sometimes, we have lot of shit in this world and i got scammed too.
2) happy to see those scammers on the news, i don't care the results. each country has their own method to bring the solutions (cut the hand, torture, killing, etc.)

this is my point of view, everyone has different thoughts and I respect. just sharing what i had to say.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: lixer on September 03, 2019, 09:51:21 AM
Wow, it shows that Indians really participating in bitcoin activities for their citizens to have gotten up to $63 million dollars, it is unfortunate for the dead person, and these are some of the reasons why Indian government never want to support bitcoin because of all these bad people, and I hope this would not be another setback anyway from the court case that they have been on.

It is good that they were apprehended anyway, but the one that is dead is already dead and I hope that the family knows the details to the bitcoin wallet otherwise, that 63 million dollars is gone forever. There is need for government to regulate the cryptocurrency, if there is regulation, all these scam activities will be minimized a little bit, at least it will scare them having in mind that the government eye is on anyone that will use it for crime.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: eternalgloom on September 03, 2019, 09:57:43 AM
Well, you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.

Not condoning killing anyone for whatever reason, but you have to be pretty stupid to let yourself get into a situation like that.
Like, if you pull off a heist like that, why even stick around and keep having contact with the people you've scammed?

Take the first plane out of India and start a new life somewhere else... Seems like a no-brainer to me.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: vintages on September 03, 2019, 11:58:56 AM
I am glad they were all arrested but he was very greedy!
You can't steal from those you steal with and go free, à criminal will know when another criminal wants to scam him. Glad karma caught up with all of them.
Money can be intoxicating at times. $63 million is quite a huge money.
My question is, now that he is dead without disclosing the logins details, how will the funds be recovered? Guess its lost forever. 


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Indamuck on September 03, 2019, 12:02:19 PM
damn, wtf. when it comes to money, most peoples haven't their emotions under control. sure, the fraudster deserved it in any way, but on the other hand they have could do it in another way to bring him the punishment he deserves (not in this way, by law) ::)

No amount of money is ever worth killing someone over.



I think you would be less interested in this news if we just remove 'Bitcoin' from the title, like:
Scammer caught tortured and killed.
Every day, a lot of people, who scammed others are caught, and punished somehow...
If the scammer is not scamming with bitcoin, but any other kind of money, valuable things, etc... it's possible that he/she would get the same punishment from those who were scammed...
That's life, if someone starts to scam he/she should think about the possible consequences... maybe he was expecting some years in jail and after to spend the money happily somewhere on an exotic place...
well they tortured him for a key reveal.  Kind of only can be a btc story.

People can get tortured for anything worth money, doesn't matter if it is bitcoin.



The guy probably didn't even have the money.  Don't think anyone in their right mind would refuse to give up money if it meant the difference between life and death.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: meanwords on September 03, 2019, 12:42:17 PM
That's messed up. Millions of money are involved and it's a gang, so I think they are used to it when it comes to harming other people. So I think when it comes to killing another human being they will have no sympathy. Greed can control just about anyone as long as large sum of money is involve.

Although I won't get involve in this kind of situation ever because this is criminals' affair, it's still scary to think that this type of thing is happening. This is the reason why it's important to hide that you are involve in cryptocurrency because who knows who you might meet.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: jeraldskie11 on September 03, 2019, 12:57:22 PM
So sad to know that there are many people get blinded by money if they are already have enough money to sustain their daily needs but they still want to enrich. And for me, that bitcoin scammer is not meditating what will happen in the future if he do that kind of crime.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Genamant on September 03, 2019, 02:06:21 PM
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I read a story like this and simply don't know what to say or think.

How about you guys?

its bad karma at work, i guess we have to accept the reality bitcoin related or not
most people will seek and do justice on their own since i guess they are running illegal business transactions.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: audaciousbeing on September 03, 2019, 02:55:41 PM
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I read a story like this and simply don't know what to say or think.

How about you guys?

No matter what anyone might have done, no one deserves to be given a brutal treatment whatsoever and there are rules else one would be charged with extra judicial murder. In other to avoid a state of anarchy, that is why there are rules and regulations to guide the activities of human beings

I don't even have any word against the culprit because he has paid the ultimate price and it's left for the perpetrators to either live the conscience of their actions or face the music according to the laws of the land.



Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Mulann2 on September 03, 2019, 03:01:26 PM
That is  sending a message to all other scammers out there who have the intention to scam people  of their money to take note, there won't be mercy for them, scamming activities have gone way too far and there is nothing that is done to the  culprit, I bet the people wants to make an example out of him, too bad.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: romero121 on September 03, 2019, 03:18:50 PM
The gang leader is too greedy, because with such a big amount he isn't gonna make anything out of it. Now through the same money scammed he has ended his life. India is a big country where people can easily scammed as they're in need of money. However these too were the reason for governments of India to stand against cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: YueVinzel on September 03, 2019, 03:20:29 PM
I heard of this story and those who beated him was his crime partners. We can see clearly in their case how they were blinded by money. Money was created only by men but right now money is the one who controlls the world. We cannot deny the fact that money is already one of the needs of people. To scam people just for you to benefit is absolutley wrong and so as to kill someone. There are some people who are really hard to be contented with what they have that's why they try to fool others and that kind of action will surely make enemies. Isn't it better to just help others rather than making them suffer for your own sake. Karma hitted that man badly and surely those who tortured and kill him will someday get their karmas too. Your action will define the possible reactions you'll get from others sad for him what he did was a very big crime.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: nicecrypto on September 03, 2019, 03:38:03 PM
This will have another bad impression on btc now, the media will try to turn it around and make it look like btc is the reason why this happen, but the greed of men will always lead to doom if care is not taken, I bet with this news the India government will put a more strictier law on crypto, said.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: dunfida on September 03, 2019, 03:59:35 PM
The gang leader is too greedy, because with such a big amount he isn't gonna make anything out of it. Now through the same money scammed he has ended his life. India is a big country where people can easily scammed as they're in need of money. However these too were the reason for governments of India to stand against cryptocurrency.
Another bad publicity to Bitcoin or crypto once again.

Scammers should really be killed,it might sounds too harsh but their greediness do makes them evil.He wasnt able to tell the private keys of such wallet until he died out of torture.
Those associates are too fool on why they do brought him into the hospital without even realizing that they are making themselves be put up on the prison later on.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Kez1817 on September 03, 2019, 04:06:34 PM
Killing someone because of money....not good! Don't let money control you insteads let you control the money. Money is the root of all bad works if it is not use for good and because people has no contintment. This gang bought a bad impression for bitcoin and because of this ,i think government of different countries will make an action to ban or regulate cryptocurrency. But it was a reminder for everyone specially those who have intension to scam other people Not to do it. Be a good person .


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on September 03, 2019, 06:05:39 PM
This incident happened in my country (India). This guy apparently cheated more than 50,000 individuals with his Bitcoin ponzi scheme. Not satisfied with the profits, he then tried to con his associates as well and this proved to be his undoing. Now the entire team have their lives ruined. The leader is dead, and the others will spend at least a few decades in the overcrowded and disease-infected prisons of India.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: suzanne5223 on September 03, 2019, 06:34:03 PM
This kind of article and real life events will only do no good to cryptocurrency. It'll just give crypto a bad image how bad and brutally it could be.

Scammers are everywhere especially when talking about valuable things. But this kind of action like torturing them is still not a good thing even though the victim also did a crime. I don't side on anyone since both of them did something wrong but I just hope this won't affect crypto and bitcoin.
You're right with what you said because some crypto haters will seize the advantage of the news and ignore the real truth of the story because those were scam are scammed physically since it local scam. But, it will never stop crypto from reaching a new ATH next year.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: manok jepang on September 03, 2019, 06:36:15 PM
I do not like this information because it is very unnatural, all the wrong actions there is a law for the perpetrators of crime, not to be tortured and killed, it is very outrageous to the torturer.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Dixbless on September 03, 2019, 06:41:58 PM
OMG this market has even more common with criminal one than I expected


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: posi on September 03, 2019, 07:22:07 PM
This incident happened in my country (India). This guy apparently cheated more than 50,000 individuals with his Bitcoin ponzi scheme. Not satisfied with the profits, he then tried to con his associates as well and this proved to be his undoing. Now the entire team have their lives ruined. The leader is dead, and the others will spend at least a few decades in the overcrowded and disease-infected prisons of India.
It is good to see someone who's totally aware of the incident and would like to know if the authority has got the bitcoin which was possessed by the scammers. However, this would be a lesson to people who choose to abuse the anonymity and potentials of bitcoin technology.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: pixie85 on September 03, 2019, 09:49:30 PM
OMG this market has even more common with criminal one than I expected

Market? It's not the market that killed him but his stupidity. He was trying to steal from his partners in crime and when caught took his time and played innocent until they tortured him to death.

He was greedy and stupid and people like that don't live long. It doesn't matter if this is in a financial market, cryptocurrency or any other job.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: rezakurnia66 on September 03, 2019, 10:42:17 PM
This kind of thing is not justified and if this happens, you will lose your future. It can also negatively impact the development of Blockchain technology. People will experience fear when hearing this news and may not want to invest in crypto.

To punish these scammers should be reported by the police. But this crypto world has not been regulated by the legal entity. So we will have difficulty proving that we are experiencing fraud.

We are in this case or do this work to stay alert and not to do stupid acts.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Ucy on September 04, 2019, 08:07:21 AM
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I read a story like this and simply don't know what to say or think.

How about you guys?

Are you worried about the torture or the stolen Bitcoin?
Jungle justice is usually frequent because the mobs are not punished and due to slow justice system.
I have observed that "leaders" of the countries where this is frequent don't speak against it. I think if they speak against it and act people would be more careful next time.  But there is a culture of silence while the lawlessness persist. Could be due to fear of the people or they are tactically encouraging it





Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Fundamentals Of on September 04, 2019, 08:13:02 AM
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I read a story like this and simply don't know what to say or think.

How about you guys?

While I agree to impose death to people who commit very serious crimes, this one is too much. Torturing one person is not reasonable in spite of his crimes. It is more than enough to recover the stolen funds, have him incarcerated for the rest of his life, or even have him killed, but not tortured. This is way to uncivilized. They now appear more criminal than the thief himself.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Onuohakk on September 04, 2019, 08:57:49 AM
It's wrong and uncivilized for individuals to take laws into their hands, no matter the incident. Killing is not the best option that will bring back the money. If that they involve the police, it would have been quite better cos they would have gotten their money back. Jungle justice is never right, that's why we have the police


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Anonylz on September 04, 2019, 11:58:58 AM
Even scammers can betray each other to have it all, greed usually comes with a price and that is what happens here, and how can they get the authority involved when the money was stolen? The only choice is to take matters into their own hands, this is really a sad story, losing your life this way is horrible, I hopes other scammers can learn from this.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: barbara44 on September 05, 2019, 05:45:17 AM
Even scammers can betray each other to have it all, greed usually comes with a price and that is what happens here, and how can they get the authority involved when the money was stolen? The only choice is to take matters into their own hands, this is really a sad story, losing your life this way is horrible, I hopes other scammers can learn from this.
Maybe he is the kingpin, and in my country, we believe in voodoo, probably the scammer must have scammed a voodoo man that has already done some voodoo over him. You know that we have some people that you don’t cost pain to. Do you know how many people such scammer would have caused pain for their hard-earned money, and I am happy that he met nemesis, him and his friends, in their next life, they will learn to be good and to work hard.

There are things or ways you will really work hard and get that money legally, but because of laziness, majority of people result to using all those crook means to obtain money from innocent hardworking people, so what do you expect of those type of people? They will surely end up being useless.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: ttcsalam on September 05, 2019, 06:40:56 AM
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I read a story like this and simply don't know what to say or think.

How about you guys?
A society or a nation is destroyed because of a crime.Criminals destroy society. Who do we have to accept education for? Criminals cannot be tolerated.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: TravelMug on September 05, 2019, 08:53:38 AM
What do you expect from a country like India who still have take justice into their own hand?

There is no honor among thieves here, they will do everything and they can turn against you in a blink of an eye. This news is just swell out of proportion because it involves crypto. If this is just another murder then no one will put this into print media.

Anyways, criminals already throw their one foot in the grave when they entered that world so at the end they really know what's coming for them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: xvids on September 05, 2019, 09:06:26 AM
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I read a story like this and simply don't know what to say or think.

How about you guys?
I think he already knows that he would somehow end up like that.
He entered that dangerous world knowing what could happen to him and what would they expect?
We are talking about 63 Million here not just a small amount of money.
Even if his partners wouldn't do it surely someone who got scammed with a big amount would look for him and do it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: stoat on September 05, 2019, 09:17:05 AM
Even scammers can betray each other to have it all, greed usually comes with a price and that is what happens here, and how can they get the authority involved when the money was stolen? The only choice is to take matters into their own hands, this is really a sad story, losing your life this way is horrible, I hopes other scammers can learn from this.
Maybe he is the kingpin, and in my country, we believe in voodoo, probably the scammer must have scammed a voodoo man that has already done some voodoo over him. You know that we have some people that you don’t cost pain to. Do you know how many people such scammer would have caused pain for their hard-earned money, and I am happy that he met nemesis, him and his friends, in their next life, they will learn to be good and to work hard.

There are things or ways you will really work hard and get that money legally, but because of laziness, majority of people result to using all those crook means to obtain money from innocent hardworking people, so what do you expect of those type of people? They will surely end up being useless.

keep voodoo and black magic of any kind out of the crypto space


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Korkorjkk on September 05, 2019, 11:58:48 AM
Scammers are thieves and when caught they should be dealt with according to the law. I don't think they should be tortured nor killed, they should be sent to trail and if found guilty should be sentenced to some years of imprisonment and not killed.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: erickkyut on September 05, 2019, 12:07:46 PM
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I read a story like this and simply don't know what to say or think.

How about you guys?

I know what it feels if someone you trusted betrayed you and took away everything from you but we shouldn't put the law in our hands. They should have not killed them because sometime in their life they became friends or if not, atleast partners. It is a sin in the eyes of God to kill people. They should have let the police to took care of the matter. Because of the killing, they just made their life more miserable. I'm praying for them to reflect on what they did and I hope that they will reciver from it very soon.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: dantee1 on September 05, 2019, 04:59:34 PM
Now, the bitcoin will remain unspent and useless forever, as no one will ever have access to it. Sad!


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Keeminakar on September 05, 2019, 08:52:13 PM
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I read a story like this and simply don't know what to say or think.

How about you guys?

I believe that such cases should be dealt with by the relevant authorities - the police and the court. Everyone must be punished according to the law.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Dondisimo on September 05, 2019, 09:13:13 PM
Damn, this story is terrible. Just imagine if for every crime people will kill each other. We're not animals, we're in the 21st century. I hope this solution will not serve as an example for someone.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Elerntta on September 05, 2019, 09:16:39 PM
Disgusting news. Undoubtedly, everyone should be held accountable for their crimes, especially for such large thefts. But agree, this is absolutely not a humane way of punishment. It is not for nothing that we have a judicial system.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: boyptc on September 05, 2019, 09:28:01 PM
The title emphasizes 'Bitcoin' but reading in the midst of it, it pointed out 'vast cryptocurrencies'.

This incident happened in my country (India). This guy apparently cheated more than 50,000 individuals with his Bitcoin ponzi scheme. Not satisfied with the profits, he then tried to con his associates as well and this proved to be his undoing. Now the entire team have their lives ruined. The leader is dead, and the others will spend at least a few decades in the overcrowded and disease-infected prisons of India.
So this was the other details that other readers should know.

Scammer tried to scam his associates.

I now understood the feeling of Philip about this news because I'm feeling the same..  :-\


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: TIDOVEE on September 05, 2019, 09:28:37 PM
i am okay with the brutal beating and torture but not with the killing. i wish to know where that happened and what the government made as judgement for the killer. that is a lesson for scammers too, they should know they are playing on some people's temperament and intelligence. the dupe is quite huge.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: qwertyup23 on September 05, 2019, 09:46:05 PM
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Regardless of the crime committed, I think no one deserves their lives to be taken as it can never be justified no matter how heinous the crime they did. Unfortunately, stealing money is as dangerous as people think it should be and this news is no different from what we see and hear everyday.

i am okay with the brutal beating and torture but not with the killing. i wish to know where that happened and what the government made as judgement for the killer. that is a lesson for scammers too, they should know they are playing on some people's temperament and intelligence. the dupe is quite huge.

Brutally torturing an individual can never be justified due to stealing or any crime committed, so I may have to disagree with your opinion. Unfortunately, it may be easy to say that it may be justified but doing harm to an individual can never be right, regardless of the circumstance.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Twinkledoe on September 05, 2019, 09:56:42 PM
The title emphasizes 'Bitcoin' but reading in the midst of it, it pointed out 'vast cryptocurrencies'.

This incident happened in my country (India). This guy apparently cheated more than 50,000 individuals with his Bitcoin ponzi scheme. Not satisfied with the profits, he then tried to con his associates as well and this proved to be his undoing. Now the entire team have their lives ruined. The leader is dead, and the others will spend at least a few decades in the overcrowded and disease-infected prisons of India.
So this was the other details that other readers should know.

Scammer tried to scam his associates.

I now understood the feeling of Philip about this news because I'm feeling the same..  :-\

I am curious if that person had the chance to give his private keys to an individual close to him. Because his effort of ditching his associates was not really worth as it cost his life. Greed overpowered his life. And now, he's gone.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: lolxxxx on September 05, 2019, 10:01:21 PM
We have seen people killing for few bucks and here we are seeing 63$ million dollars what do you expect next?

Anger is something that takes control over everything and we get blind by it anything can happen..


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 06, 2019, 01:49:19 AM
i am okay with the brutal beating and torture but not with the killing. i wish to know where that happened and what the government made as judgement for the killer. that is a lesson for scammers too, they should know they are playing on some people's temperament and intelligence. the dupe is quite huge.

They never intended to murder him. They asked him to reveal the password to his Bitcoin wallet and the torture started when he refused to comply. As per their version, he lost consciousness during the torture sessions and could not be revived despite medical assistance. Obviously, I wouldn't trust their version of the events that much. A lot of unanswered questions are there.

And to put it honestly, these guys didn't had much of a choice. Filing a civil lawsuit in India is quite useless (as I found out many times during my business dealings in India). The legal proceedings can go on for many decades, and during this time the accused will be completely free, enjoying his life in luxury. In most cases, the only viable solution is to reach a mutually agreeable deal outside the court.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: pakhitheboss on September 06, 2019, 03:11:07 AM
I do not think such an action was needed at all. If they had caught the scammer they should have handed him over to the police and the law would have taken action.

The level of tolerance in our society has been going down gravely. Every day we read and see such inhuman crimes being committed in the name of justice. People tend to forget that they are not animals and as human beings, we have to obey and follow laws that have been created by us.

What did they accomplish? they themselves are now criminals.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: boyptc on September 06, 2019, 05:20:00 AM
The title emphasizes 'Bitcoin' but reading in the midst of it, it pointed out 'vast cryptocurrencies'.

This incident happened in my country (India). This guy apparently cheated more than 50,000 individuals with his Bitcoin ponzi scheme. Not satisfied with the profits, he then tried to con his associates as well and this proved to be his undoing. Now the entire team have their lives ruined. The leader is dead, and the others will spend at least a few decades in the overcrowded and disease-infected prisons of India.
So this was the other details that other readers should know.

Scammer tried to scam his associates.

I now understood the feeling of Philip about this news because I'm feeling the same..  :-\

I am curious if that person had the chance to give his private keys to an individual close to him. Because his effort of ditching his associates was not really worth as it cost his life. Greed overpowered his life. And now, he's gone.
I don't think he did as per the storyteller it wasn't mentioned and vishnu.reang said that he fooled his associates.

I think that the leader don't trust anybody so why he would give it to someone even as close as his associates.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: lixer on September 08, 2019, 06:02:59 PM
i am okay with the brutal beating and torture but not with the killing. i wish to know where that happened and what the government made as judgement for the killer. that is a lesson for scammers too, they should know they are playing on some people's temperament and intelligence. the dupe is quite huge.

They never intended to murder him. They asked him to reveal the password to his Bitcoin wallet and the torture started when he refused to comply. As per their version, he lost consciousness during the torture sessions and could not be revived despite medical assistance. Obviously, I wouldn't trust their version of the events that much. A lot of unanswered questions are there.

And to put it honestly, these guys didn't had much of a choice. Filing a civil lawsuit in India is quite useless (as I found out many times during my business dealings in India). The legal proceedings can go on for many decades, and during this time the accused will be completely free, enjoying his life in luxury. In most cases, the only viable solution is to reach a mutually agreeable deal outside the court.
What are you saying man, are you justifying their action, they all engaged in a wrong action and what they would have done is take it easy and with wisdom look for how to get the money, or if they have to do him anything wrong, the highest they would do is to report him secretly to the authority and let authority take control of the whole situation, at least they will not lose alone, they will both loose together, but even now, they have lost out eventually because they are now a murderer, and the murdered one has already died with the wallet password which they will not be able to revive again.

So, is that not penny wise palm foolish? I guess it was actually their right time for nemesis to catch up with them because of their worn doing, all of them together.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: aryadiningrat123 on September 08, 2019, 10:30:11 PM
everyone might do the same thing we have their money taken or deceived they will be very emotional towards that person and maybe if they meet a person who is tricked will hit the person who cheats him


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: finaleshot2016 on September 08, 2019, 10:36:20 PM
It's normal especially when money is the main cause of the murder.

It's already happening in our world, not just only in bitcoin but in the mafia or gang. If someone gets scammed, gang will literally murder that specific person.

I wonder how they knew the location and personality of that person, If it's huge money then it will cost their lives. People get emotionally because it's money that will solve your financial problems, a money that will take you on the top, no one likes being deceived so they ended up killing or worst.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: amyshek1979 on September 08, 2019, 10:42:18 PM
It's too cruel even for him..


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Oceat on September 08, 2019, 10:44:21 PM
This is similar to reprisal as it was during the racket and the mafia for long years ago. However, this man himself chose his fate by stealing Bitcoins.
How long are we talking about it here? What actual year since Bitcoin was created and started in 2009, that's 10 years ago. I would like to know more about this story if you don't mind. 8)

Stealing is not really a good idea if it is not for the cause just like how Robin Hood does. Money can change everyone into something as if money is very important to them, although it is another story if the money they stole was from the hard-earned money of a hard-working person/company. It's like an ant stealing food from the cat.  :-X


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: shoreno on September 12, 2019, 05:37:56 AM
I am against the killing. Bad guys, scammers, fraudsters, they have the right to live and can still have a chance to change. It is bettet if they just put them into jails and suffered there lifetime.
your against on the killing but your happy to see criminals spend the rest of thier lives on jail ? i think that are still the same   .they are still going to suffer or have thier lives miserable inside the cell . yes they all of us have the chance to change no matter how bad or evil we are but in order to see that change  , we must only warn them and not do any torture  .  if they repeat the same mistakes again or next time  , thats the time we will punish those bad guys .


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: GreatArkansas on September 12, 2019, 05:55:38 AM
Expect more cases about this, even if non-crypto. We should not be afraid to this as long as we don't have wrong doings such involvement of money.

There are already some cases before about this, especially one of the biggest ponzi scheme happened in cryptocurrency, the Bitconnect: Bitconnect: Police Suspecting Murder of CEO’s wife (https://medium.com/@VidrihMarko/bitconnect-police-suspecting-murder-of-ceos-wife-195cb76ea9aa).
This is just sad because there are some innocent people get affected too, just like some people close to the suspect or even their family or love ones.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: yazher on September 12, 2019, 06:10:42 AM
damn, wtf. when it comes to money, most peoples haven't their emotions under control. sure, the fraudster deserved it in any way, but on the other hand they have could do it in another way to bring him the punishment he deserves (not in this way, by law) ::)

Killing will be the last result to do with that guy and maybe if they talk about it they may still retrieve the lost money maybe not all of it, I believe they can still get back less than half of the bitcoin stole by the scammer. now they don't have a lead to get that money back.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Natalim on September 12, 2019, 06:20:32 AM
Expect more cases about this, even if non-crypto. We should not be afraid to this as long as we don't have wrong doings such involvement of money.

There are already some cases before about this, especially one of the biggest ponzi scheme happened in cryptocurrency, the Bitconnect: Bitconnect: Police Suspecting Murder of CEO’s wife (https://medium.com/@VidrihMarko/bitconnect-police-suspecting-murder-of-ceos-wife-195cb76ea9aa).
This is just sad because there are some innocent people get affected too, just like some people close to the suspect or even their family or love ones.

The husband already know the risk, Bitconnect is a big scam, one of the biggest if not the biggest, and now they are paying for scamming, and during that time when the scam are still existing, the family also benefit on the proceeds and this is just expected that the family is also in big risk.

That's why, if we want to leave a peaceful life, we should not be greedy and steal other people's money, let's work in a clean way and be contented of what we can make, besides, as long as we have our family with us, they will make us happy as they are the real treasure.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: GreatArkansas on September 12, 2019, 08:31:17 AM
The husband already know the risk, Bitconnect is a big scam, one of the biggest if not the biggest, and now they are paying for scamming, and during that time when the scam are still existing, the family also benefit on the proceeds and this is just expected that the family is also in big risk.
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Yep, it's just sad how innocent people got involve with their wrong doings, they didn't think about it before commiting those crimes.

It is also like here in our province, the father is only involve in some ponzi schemes (not crypto) but their daughter killed by unidentified suspect. See that? How cruel is that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: betty11 on September 12, 2019, 09:31:06 AM
Although I am always against jungle justice. I can still vividly remember how much I loss in USI-TECH, lending ICO, worthless ICO, Hashflare and some other decentralized HYIPs. Scammers should never be shown mercy as they leave victims with emotional trauma, however, justice must be applied through a competent court of jurisdiction. He scammed his victim and decided to scam his gangs too, they are all in for it. Either keep your bitcoin or trade it, never give it to any paying program, most are 99.99% scam.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: nienzer on September 12, 2019, 09:35:33 AM
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https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-scammer-stealing-63-million-brutally-tortured-and-murdered-by-business-partners



Bitcoin Scammer Stealing $63 Million Brutally Tortured and Murdered by Business Partners...




I read a story like this and simply don't know what to say or think.

How about you guys?

Some business partners turn out to be former members of the mafia with great connections. Unfortunately, this bitcoin scammer was unlucky and he was brutally punished for his crime.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Lauren Smith on September 14, 2019, 05:06:30 PM
Its quite simiple. If you do not want to be beaten to death then don't steal 67 million $$$ worth of crypto. WTF did this person think would happen? A slap on the wrist? That is a selfishly large amount to steal. Noone needs that amount of money. He could have just played it legit and been rich but greed got to this persons head and they stopped thinking. They got exactly what they were asking for. I feel nothing.
I don't agree with violence but when someone attacks your livelihood and what you took years to build you have every right to defend yourself.

Some scammers steal peoples life savings. Stealing someones life savings is making all things go after that. Its open hunting season after you go as far as steal someones entire life. No sorry but if you steal someones ebtire life you deserve waht happens next. You decided to play the game and you were caught now bare the consequence.


SCAMMERS KNOW THE RISK!! THEY KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY CAUGHT!!

i am okay with the brutal beating and torture but not with the killing. i wish to know where that happened and what the government made as judgement for the killer. that is a lesson for scammers too, they should know they are playing on some people's temperament and intelligence. the dupe is quite huge.

They never intended to murder him. They asked him to reveal the password to his Bitcoin wallet and the torture started when he refused to comply. As per their version, he lost consciousness during the torture sessions and could not be revived despite medical assistance. Obviously, I wouldn't trust their version of the events that much. A lot of unanswered questions are there.

And to put it honestly, these guys didn't had much of a choice. Filing a civil lawsuit in India is quite useless (as I found out many times during my business dealings in India). The legal proceedings can go on for many decades, and during this time the accused will be completely free, enjoying his life in luxury. In most cases, the only viable solution is to reach a mutually agreeable deal outside the court.
What are you saying man, are you justifying their action, they all engaged in a wrong action and what they would have done is take it easy and with wisdom look for how to get the money, or if they have to do him anything wrong, the highest they would do is to report him secretly to the authority and let authority take control of the whole situation, at least they will not lose alone, they will both loose together, but even now, they have lost out eventually because they are now a murderer, and the murdered one has already died with the wallet password which they will not be able to revive again.

So, is that not penny wise palm foolish? I guess it was actually their right time for nemesis to catch up with them because of their worn doing, all of them together.

NO WAYS SORRY!!! They deserve what they get. Scammers play the game they know the rules and they know the risks. You face your consiquences when you fuck with someones livlihood. YOu messing with someones entire family when you scam them. The game is cat and mouse and the sacmmers that get caught pay the ultimate price. If you havea problem with that then do not play the game.

Scamming is a game. Get caught and its all over. Get scammed and its also all over. Scammers live looking over their shoulder every day.

If you worked your finger to the bone for 30 years building a company and some little shit tkes all of it from you and now you have nothing and your faimly too. THat person raped 30 years of your life, not just your life but hard work too. Sorry but if you come at me with that shit I will come back at you. Don't like it then don't scam me. They know what will happen upfront but still they scam.


If you stick your head in the lion's mouth and it tears your head off. WTF you expect?


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: 7788bitcoin on September 15, 2019, 12:11:46 PM
It's normal especially when money is the main cause of the murder.
These are not a normal circumstance is any society, not sure which part of the world you are coming from to normalize murder  ::).

It's already happening in our world, not just only in bitcoin but in the mafia or gang. If someone gets scammed, gang will literally murder that specific person.
I wonder how they knew the location and personality of that person
If you have read the article it says the person who scammed was killed by his business partners and not by the people who got scammed. There is a major difference from what you understand. Scammers should be locked up and all the loot returned rather than taking the law in their hands in any scenario. This is a dispute between the scam group and the person got killed because they thought he is fooling them too when he said his wallet was stolen.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Genamant on September 15, 2019, 12:47:30 PM
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https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-scammer-stealing-63-million-brutally-tortured-and-murdered-by-business-partners



Bitcoin Scammer Stealing $63 Million Brutally Tortured and Murdered by Business Partners...




I read a story like this and simply don't know what to say or think.

How about you guys?

Five scammers tortured and killed their leader on the night of Wednesday to Thursday to gain access to a $ 63 million Bitcoin wallet.
I cannot imagine the pain and how cruel people could be.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: thisappointed on September 15, 2019, 01:25:35 PM
We can't really blame people who wanted this kind of people to be dead, they deserve it because they betrayed someone who trust them. It's just a lesson that not all of the people are kind, sometimes they give back what you gave to them, if you betrayed then they would betrayed you too, simple as that. Though yes, it is not right to kill people because we have this justice system.

But other people don't trust this process that is why they do it in their own hands to achieve justice in haste.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: virasisog on September 15, 2019, 01:39:29 PM
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https://www.ccn.com/bitcoin-scammer-stealing-63-million-brutally-tortured-and-murdered-by-business-partners



Bitcoin Scammer Stealing $63 Million Brutally Tortured and Murdered by Business Partners...




I read a story like this and simply don't know what to say or think.

How about you guys?

What a very unfortunate reality to both sides , one being tortured and killed and others committed a crime not getting what they want.
Such a waste of life and integrity.
Like the old saying says Money is the root of all evil then brought together Greediness will really bring out the worst in everyone
so aside from being financially motivated.Let us motivate ourselves spiritually.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: Distraction on September 15, 2019, 02:00:07 PM
Firstly, of course swindling people out of 63 million dollars is a very big guilt. But it doesn't mean that the scammer could be brutally killed for a guilt like this. It is just horrible to think that his partners tortured him.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: bitbunnny on September 15, 2019, 06:56:34 PM
Firstly, of course swindling people out of 63 million dollars is a very big guilt. But it doesn't mean that the scammer could be brutally killed for a guilt like this. It is just horrible to think that his partners tortured him.

Theft, fraud, whatever is a crime, no doubt about it but people can't put justice into their own hands. If we allow that what kind of world would that be. So.I can't justify something like that, no matter what and people who did that to him should be punished.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: pixie85 on September 15, 2019, 07:53:46 PM
I do not think such an action was needed at all. If they had caught the scammer they should have handed him over to the police and the law would have taken action.

The level of tolerance in our society has been going down gravely. Every day we read and see such inhuman crimes being committed in the name of justice. People tend to forget that they are not animals and as human beings, we have to obey and follow laws that have been created by us.

What did they accomplish? they themselves are now criminals.

They wanted money. He died because he did not want to hand over what he had owed them.

If they handed him over to the Police they would have confiscated the money and probably charged the rest of the perpetrators along with the scammer who died. They did not want that so they tortured him to get the money. He asked for it if you ask me.


Title: Re: Bitcoin scammer caught tortured and killed.
Post by: lighpulsar07 on September 16, 2019, 10:26:56 AM
Oh well that's what you get when you tried to scam a criminals like you and failed to do it and catches you definitely you are dead and when it comes to money criminals are just like animals than a person since there is no law above them. the law is in their hands if you're befriended then you are fine but if you betray them which is very not good move for a criminal well it will cost you a life even the small mistake that you have on that affects their organization you could lose your life so, don't try to betray or going to fail them you will die from their hands