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Title: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: UmerIdrees on September 09, 2019, 10:13:30 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: livingfree on September 09, 2019, 10:35:26 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
Good question but are you this guy that will promote a casino on your social media account? My opinion on this case is that if it isn't allowed too to advertise then you better just stop and don't do it.

But it's much better to hear the perspective from someone who's also part of Islam.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: robelneo on September 09, 2019, 10:44:00 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I'm not a Muslim but I will be speaking as a Christian, we are not very strict when it comes to gambling as long as there is moderation, you treat it as a form of entertainment and you promote gambling site as a form of entertainment, not something, where you will invite people to get rich or deceive them that you can double your money.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Bttzed03 on September 09, 2019, 10:54:33 AM
Income from betting/gambling is illegal or forbidden. How then is income gained from promoting something that is forbidden becomes legal? I don't really know a lot about Islam but I think it should also be considered as illegal.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: JohnBitCo on September 09, 2019, 11:28:30 AM
Income from betting/gambling is illegal or forbidden. How then is income gained from promoting something that is forbidden becomes legal? I don't really know a lot about Islam but I think it should also be considered as illegal.
I think he is not asking about Islam religion but he is asking in general for all the religions which forbids the gambling. If something is illegal in certain area, then promotion about it must be illegal too. You cannot promote something which is illegal or banned.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: YuginKadoya on September 09, 2019, 11:28:50 AM
In my opinion, gambling is not prohibited as long as gambling is not controlling you but you are the one in control over your bets and decisions, It will surely depend on one's perspective and interpretation, So when the law prohibited gambling then that will be by the law or in the government's rules against gambling, Well the bible doesn't directly addressing gambling and a means of negative discussion but if you are making gambling as your main and are only targeting the money you can get from it then that would be a sin in GOD's perspective.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: acroman08 on September 09, 2019, 11:47:28 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?


it will be different for every person. there would be people that will still consider receiving the money sinful because it came from a sinful way
and there people who will see it acceptable and not sinful. as an atheist I don't care if the money came from gambling but if the money came
from illegal activities I would decline it.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: virasog on September 09, 2019, 12:00:06 PM
Income from betting/gambling is illegal or forbidden. How then is income gained from promoting something that is forbidden becomes legal? I don't really know a lot about Islam but I think it should also be considered as illegal.
I think he is not asking about Islam religion but he is asking in general for all the religions which forbids the gambling. If something is illegal in certain area, then promotion about it must be illegal too. You cannot promote something which is illegal or banned.


Can you tell me all the religions in which gambling is prohibited ?


As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?


it will be different for every person. there would be people that will still consider receiving the money sinful because it came from a sinful way
and there people who will see it acceptable and not sinful. as an atheist I don't care if the money came from gambling but if the money came
from illegal activities I would decline it.

Most people will accept the money from which ever source they receive it. They do not care if the money is legal or illegal. All they care is about the money and the ways to get it.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: coin-investor on September 09, 2019, 12:21:36 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I can speak of my religion which is Christianity, I am not a hardcore Christian but as long as I am taking care of my family and not promoting gambling as something that will make you rich, which is deception.
As long as you promote gambling in a good and positive way like spending spare money and not indulging so much, there is no issue at all if you play gambling or promote it.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: btc_angela on September 09, 2019, 12:26:44 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

This is a dilemma for majority of us gamblers and questions based on ethics. And no one can really can give you a direct answer for this. It really depends on the individual itself on how he or she see gambling as a perceived sin based on his religion or beliefs.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: btc78 on September 09, 2019, 12:39:01 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.
You have already the answer here  and it clearly says
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But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
In any form but it connected in gambling I believe is also considered as gamblingmoney,because the one you advertise will surely take the your payments from gambling so it’s a sinful money if you are a Muslim


This base on my opinion as I a man not a Muslim but from what my understanding is..so what I’m surely knew here is OP is affected on his spiritual laws


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Ararbermas on September 09, 2019, 01:18:10 PM
If it's eligal then its prohibited averywhere even in social media there's no one is exempted on it.  Wherein automatic if someone caught you cheating you will be imprison because it's a sin even you advert it only you have no skip. . Actually that's the reason why there are some ppl using vpn but unfortunately they fail because of some reason.  So i suggest don't cheat if you want to avoid problems.. Lol


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: bering on September 09, 2019, 01:43:56 PM
If we see from religions side then direct or indirectly gambling will considering as sin because you were support gambling site by promoting them through an social media but it's will be different and not fully illegal to get money from them especially if you were life on the countries which legalize gambling


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: fortunecrypto on September 09, 2019, 02:00:18 PM
It depends on the individual I'm not talking about our Muslim Brothers but Christian since I belong here if a guy is to religious he might feel guilty promoting gambling, but if his views are liberal, he will think that it has nothing to do with religion, as long as you do not harm other people and promote gambling for fun.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: XCANA on September 09, 2019, 02:04:13 PM
From my religion view, that money is illegal and shouldn't be use in the religion way. As a Christian I am, I have not taken from what I earned from gambling to pay my offerings nor for tithes because doing those before God Almighty who sees the heart will not yield positively results. Tithing and offering will be waste of time from what you earn from gambling, Better still keep it to your self.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: muslol67 on September 09, 2019, 02:10:24 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I don't think all gambling restrictions are about religion. The Arab countries have more bans on Islam.

People's beliefs shouldn't have anything to do with prohibitions. Each religion has its own limitations. But to whom these are not discussed so much.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: suzanne5223 on September 09, 2019, 02:19:28 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
The money earned from it may and may not be legal because it depends on how you do the advert but if you do it through posting on this forum it is legal because you didn't force anyone to gamble and only people who's into gambling will be forced to gamble on the site you wear there signature.
It biblical
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Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Baby Dragon on September 09, 2019, 03:21:45 PM
Income from betting/gambling is illegal or forbidden. How then is income gained from promoting something that is forbidden becomes legal? I don't really know a lot about Islam but I think it should also be considered as illegal.
I think he is not asking about Islam religion but he is asking in general for all the religions which forbids the gambling. If something is illegal in certain area, then promotion about it must be illegal too. You cannot promote something which is illegal or banned.


Can you tell me all the religions in which gambling is prohibited ?


As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?


it will be different for every person. there would be people that will still consider receiving the money sinful because it came from a sinful way
and there people who will see it acceptable and not sinful. as an atheist I don't care if the money came from gambling but if the money came
from illegal activities I would decline it.

Most people will accept the money from which ever source they receive it. They do not care if the money is legal or illegal. All they care is about the money and the ways to get it.
Its because its hard to earn money nowadays and that is why some people choose to do illegal things or activities just to earn money, we can't blame them though since we know that life is difficult and people are struggling everyday to get food, water and etc. but they have to suffer the consequences of their actions. If its prohibited then they should stop it because they can probably regret for doing it.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Avirunes on September 09, 2019, 03:39:09 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I am not Muslim but I have seen someone who I know refusing to promote sites related with lending and gambling site. Legal and things you don't do just because your religion prohibits are different.

I've seen some friends on mine who are not allowed to as said in religion but still they do. Its all about your views actually and how much you believe in it.



Still I want to know why gambling and lending is considered as sin? I mean reasoning behind it. Hope I am asking it correctly.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: aioc on September 09, 2019, 04:38:09 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I'm not a very religious person but I do not attach my gambling habit to my religion, as long I'm not doing any hard to my fellow-creature, I'm ok with gambling and promoting it, just don't promote scam gambling site, or you are stealing from the poor guy, and promote it like a site to have some fun not to get rich.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: jake zyrus on September 09, 2019, 04:43:44 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
Let's put it in a situation like this... In my country, drugs are illegal. But in your case, you only sell drugs but don't actually use it. Still the same. It's still illegal.

I'm not a muslim and I don't know much about it but what I have said is only based on what I can see and my perception. For me, if it's a sin, although you don't directly did that sin but as long as you engaged yourself with it. It's still a sin. You know it's prohibited in your religion but you would still promote it?? It's like going against on what you believe.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: joshy23 on September 09, 2019, 04:50:35 PM
From my religion view, that money is illegal and shouldn't be use in the religion way. As a Christian I am, I have not taken from what I earned from gambling to pay my offerings nor for tithes because doing those before God Almighty who sees the heart will not yield positively results. Tithing and offering will be waste of time from what you earn from gambling, Better still keep it to your self.
Same thing since the money itself came from the gambling site so even you are not physically gambling your money but the sources of your income still coming from the gambling site itself, in religious mind it's still consider as part of the system, it will be tagged as part of gambling related activities it's been labeled to it.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Lanatsa on September 09, 2019, 05:04:34 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
Don't care too much between those questions being asked.It doesn't matter if you do play nor earn from gambling yet each individual do have its own decisions in life if they would try to follow strictly on what their religion does said.If they don't like to commit sin then they should avoid it as part of their own belief but I do see some muslims that do even gamble on my place without minding about that sin thing been telling off.Talking back about earning money from gambling advertisement,i don't see of it to be a big deal after all.Hence, only a few of the entire population as Muslims.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: target on September 09, 2019, 05:13:33 PM
From my religion view, that money is illegal and shouldn't be use in the religion way. As a Christian I am, I have not taken from what I earned from gambling to pay my offerings nor for tithes because doing those before God Almighty who sees the heart will not yield positively results. Tithing and offering will be waste of time from what you earn from gambling, Better still keep it to your self.
Same thing since the money itself came from the gambling site so even you are not physically gambling your money but the sources of your income still coming from the gambling site itself, in religious mind it's still consider as part of the system, it will be tagged as part of gambling related activities it's been labeled to it.

That would be a horrible situation for a Muslim, its like having the opportunity to earn yet not allowed. It may just be a question for the morality but I wonder if the situation may chance if its a matter of life and death situation. Everything you do today needs money, you wouldn't question whether its legal or morally right if you have to put food on the table. Didn't all religion disallow gambling?


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: BitcoinHunt3r on September 09, 2019, 06:11:16 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
Correct me if i am wrong. But i think it still a sin although we not play gambling but we promote gambling place. But for me, actually i know it is a sin but i play gamble too. Maybe in future i hope can change to be better person and avoid all of gambling things. If not a sin, maybe we are not prohobited to any kind of that game.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: XCANA on September 09, 2019, 06:32:51 PM
From my religion view, that money is illegal and shouldn't be use in the religion way. As a Christian I am, I have not taken from what I earned from gambling to pay my offerings nor for tithes because doing those before God Almighty who sees the heart will not yield positively results. Tithing and offering will be waste of time from what you earn from gambling, Better still keep it to your self.
Same thing since the money itself came from the gambling site so even you are not physically gambling your money but the sources of your income still coming from the gambling site itself, in religious mind it's still consider as part of the system, it will be tagged as part of gambling related activities it's been labeled to it.

That would be a horrible situation for a Muslim, its like having the opportunity to earn yet not allowed. It may just be a question for the morality but I wonder if the situation may chance if its a matter of life and death situation. Everything you do today needs money, you wouldn't question whether its legal or morally right if you have to put food on the table. Didn't all religion disallow gambling?
Christianity to be precise disallowed gambling and also, my country disallowed it too, so, getting involve into the system just to survive or to put food on the table is illegal. There are some individuals here who will not promote anything against their religion or belief, those types will not defile self to put food on their table.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Chrystora123 on September 09, 2019, 08:46:30 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
in this diverse world, I think we have to look at it from a different angle.. promoting it is indirectly like provoking, but I don't think that's a Sin, I see the promotion a gambling site on social media is a job.

You only Sin if you cheat.. promote fake gambling sites and then run off with the money.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: XCANA on September 09, 2019, 09:17:47 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
in this diverse world, I think we have to look at it from a different angle.. promoting it is indirectly like provoking, but I don't think that's a Sin, I see the promotion a gambling site on social media is a job.

You only Sin if you cheat.. promote fake gambling sites and then run off with the money.
The implications of this is that, what you hate to do personally or what you won't do, you are now asking friends to do it just because you will earn from them doing it. In conclusion, its a sin to give someone food to eat which you won't eat, according to the Christian doctrines even in slam I assume.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Sharon121212 on September 09, 2019, 10:08:50 PM
If your religion does condemn gambling it should relate to everything gambling, but is gambling truly a sin?  We can ask this question and at the same time ask for logical answers gambling is you win or you don't win, someone gains from another loss so is some investment choices but they are not considered crime. Investing is about predicting the opportunity of what is invested on in future so is gambling you playing to gain in future


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: milewilda on September 09, 2019, 10:23:25 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I am not Muslim but I have seen someone who I know refusing to promote sites related with lending and gambling site. Legal and things you don't do just because your religion prohibits are different.

I've seen some friends on mine who are not allowed to as said in religion but still they do. Its all about your views actually and how much you believe in it.



Still I want to know why gambling and lending is considered as sin? I mean reasoning behind it. Hope I am asking it correctly.
Same question on my mind why gambling and lending is prohibited but i did some small search https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maisir
Its way too exagerrated to have this kind of religion imho but well, everyone needs respect with their own beliefs and culture
but its quite odd to see it up though.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Finestream on September 09, 2019, 10:30:14 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
It looks like it's against their belief as well, the money coming from gambling whether you win it or earn it, it's still coming from gambling.
However, I don't like to judge because it's up to everyone on how to they will see themselves doing that kind of things.

When it comes to religion or salvation, it's an individual effort because we are in charge of our own as we face the consequences of our own.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: goinmerry on September 09, 2019, 10:33:44 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

You mean a Muslim promoting a gambling site?

In the first place, they will not do that. Since it involves Gambling, no way they will promote it. Islam is so strict that you will not think of doing what's not written in their Koran. But like in other religions, there are persons who like to work against what written in the book but it doesn't mean they aren't following it. Maybe in needs of money etc. like the usual scene in our community.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: harizen on September 09, 2019, 10:42:56 PM
Still I want to know why gambling and lending is considered as sin? I mean reasoning behind it. Hope I am asking it correctly.

In Islam, it's written on their Book (Quran). Everything written here should be followed by all Muslims just like in other religions, there is no need for a further explanation nor valid and technical reasoning on that especially for us, not Muslim. In other words, we must not question it and just respect their beliefs.



As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

Since the money has involvement in gambling, yes it's prohibited to Islam. But in some cases, as mentioned also above, there is no religion that has perfect followers so there is a case that someone is involved to that even that is prohibited on their religion.

No need for this thread to have much further discussion. OP you now have the idea on your question. Religion should not be involved in any discussion here because of the obvious reason that people here aren't living on the same tree.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Japinat on September 09, 2019, 11:02:02 PM
My religion is not Islam, but the way I understand your statement, seems like anything that is coming from gambling is against the religion of Islam.
Whether it's coming from bounty, signature campaign, or whatever kind of promotions, if a person is a true believer of Islam, he should not participate in any.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: stigmacryptonight on September 09, 2019, 11:38:29 PM
LOL, I hate statements like this. Is doing this sinful? Promoting gambling projects but we don't play, come on. Why should think like this, everyone has his thoughts on sin, it is more precisely personal.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: crwth on September 10, 2019, 12:58:48 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.
I think, first of all, we should all be clear that the act of gambling for Islam is the Sin, not the money. Earning money from a prohibited act on that religion is considered illegal, not a Sin directly. I think that's good to be pointed out first.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
Coming back to the point where earning money is going to be the issue, the source would be questioned. From what I understand from some of my friends who are Islam, let me show you this:

They said that if they eat pork, they would be committing sin. If you were to eat something other than pork and the knife that was used was used to cut pork, it is still going to be a sin.

Using that analogy to gambling, if it came from Gambling, knowing that it is forbidden for them, and you didn't gamble but the source of money is from a forbidden act (still gambling) it could still be considered a sin. I'm not an Islam and don't know the correct one, correct me if I'm wrong.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: mitchr4 on September 10, 2019, 02:18:12 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I am not Muslim but I have seen someone who I know refusing to promote sites related with lending and gambling site. Legal and things you don't do just because your religion prohibits are different.

I've seen some friends on mine who are not allowed to as said in religion but still they do. Its all about your views actually and how much you believe in it.



Still I want to know why gambling and lending is considered as sin? I mean reasoning behind it. Hope I am asking it correctly.
Totally agree, if you know Muhammed Zakir on this forum then you know how he avoids gambling including playing or promoting it. He is a Muslim from India, I know that he is very religious, even he offers loans with zero interest. This goes back to the Muslims view of gambling and lending (with interest) ready to accept sin if you deal with it.

AFAIK gambling in Islam is haram and it is forbidden by religion. Also, Muslims can give loans to others as long as they do not ask for interest and collateral.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: coin-investor on September 10, 2019, 02:32:56 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
Correct me if i am wrong. But i think it still a sin although we not play gambling but we promote gambling place. But for me, actually i know it is a sin but i play gamble too. Maybe in future i hope can change to be better person and avoid all of gambling things. If not a sin, maybe we are not prohobited to any kind of that game.

This issue is very sensitive especially to those countries who have a very deep religious practice, of course, you have your needs and you want to make an income and promoting gambling sites is a good source of revenue, but you also have an obligation to your religion, but like what I post in my opinion, I'm ok with it as long as I do not deceive people that gambling is a get rich scheme I'm ok with my stand.

I always encourage when I'm promoting be it a gambling site or investment site, just to spend  and spare what they can afford to lose and just have some fun.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: target on September 10, 2019, 02:40:01 AM
From my religion view, that money is illegal and shouldn't be use in the religion way. As a Christian I am, I have not taken from what I earned from gambling to pay my offerings nor for tithes because doing those before God Almighty who sees the heart will not yield positively results. Tithing and offering will be waste of time from what you earn from gambling, Better still keep it to your self.
Same thing since the money itself came from the gambling site so even you are not physically gambling your money but the sources of your income still coming from the gambling site itself, in religious mind it's still consider as part of the system, it will be tagged as part of gambling related activities it's been labeled to it.

That would be a horrible situation for a Muslim, its like having the opportunity to earn yet not allowed. It may just be a question for the morality but I wonder if the situation may chance if its a matter of life and death situation. Everything you do today needs money, you wouldn't question whether its legal or morally right if you have to put food on the table. Didn't all religion disallow gambling?
Christianity to be precise disallowed gambling and also, my country disallowed it too, so, getting involve into the system just to survive or to put food on the table is illegal. There are some individuals here who will not promote anything against their religion or belief, those types will not defile self to put food on their table.

They'd sure earn the respect of the fellow Christians and Muslims for not bending the forbidden laws of their religion. Gambling I think though is just a simple disobedience against religion unlike murders so I hope Gods will forgive this low level sin. And I mean lottery is being played in most country regardless of religion. Isn't lottery also a gambling act?




Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: romero121 on September 10, 2019, 03:14:32 AM
From my religion view, that money is illegal and shouldn't be use in the religion way. As a Christian I am, I have not taken from what I earned from gambling to pay my offerings nor for tithes because doing those before God Almighty who sees the heart will not yield positively results. Tithing and offering will be waste of time from what you earn from gambling, Better still keep it to your self.
Same thing since the money itself came from the gambling site so even you are not physically gambling your money but the sources of your income still coming from the gambling site itself, in religious mind it's still consider as part of the system, it will be tagged as part of gambling related activities it's been labeled to it.

That would be a horrible situation for a Muslim, its like having the opportunity to earn yet not allowed. It may just be a question for the morality but I wonder if the situation may chance if its a matter of life and death situation. Everything you do today needs money, you wouldn't question whether its legal or morally right if you have to put food on the table. Didn't all religion disallow gambling?
Christianity to be precise disallowed gambling and also, my country disallowed it too, so, getting involve into the system just to survive or to put food on the table is illegal. There are some individuals here who will not promote anything against their religion or belief, those types will not defile self to put food on their table.

They'd sure earn the respect of the fellow Christians and Muslims for not bending the forbidden laws of their religion. Gambling I think though is just a simple disobedience against religion unlike murders so I hope Gods will forgive this low level sin. And I mean lottery is being played in most country regardless of religion. Isn't lottery also a gambling act?



There is nothing to relate gambling with religion. There are people who do gamble and support charities and people in need. There are sayings in the Bible as well on other religious books that gambling is sin. This is mentioned when one is completely lazy and vanishes his properties for gambling. These days such kind of gamblers were very low to be seen in reality. From my view, at least by following the religious beliefs it is good to keep ourselves within the limits.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Saisher on September 10, 2019, 03:35:50 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I'm a Christian and I'm promoting gambling sites to all my peers, as an entertainment venue, because I do entertain while playing various games in gambling sites and I'm not a very religious person as long as I'm not harming any creature or using lying and deceiving just to entice people to join I don't believe I am making a sin.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: shoreno on September 10, 2019, 04:42:31 AM
you mean if the promoter is from restricted religion ? it should be fine because you were only promoting it and you are not playing an actual gambling  but if your still doubting or feeling nervous then much better if you dont continue promoting so that you are sure that you wont hurt your religion  . for us christians , i think gambling is also restricted but not totally as what islam do  . christians still do silly things but at the end of the day , we are still praying asking for forgiveness of our sins  .


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: maydna on September 10, 2019, 05:44:30 AM
You need to ask your heart first before you want to promote any material even for gambling, drugs, or else. If your heart is okay if you do that, then you can continue, but if it's not, then, you need to stop for a while. Religion is something privately, that is between you and GOD, and no one will know how close you and GOD.

If someone says that is illegal and that is a SIN, then he might wrong because he will not know if GOD will permit his way to do that thing because he does that thing is not for himself. All of the judgment will from GOD itself, and we don't know which is wrong or right. The matter is if you want to do something, out of the illegal or legal thing, you should ask your heart, and you will see the difference.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: samputin on September 10, 2019, 06:13:29 AM
I am not a Muslim and I do not know much of their religion. But if gambling is prohibited in their religion for it is considered a sin, then anything in relation with gambling may also be considered a sin.

However, on another point of view, if he is only promoting a gambling site for it is his occupation, and he is not really gambling, then I don't think there is anything wrong with that. After all, he is just doing his job as an employee but not disobeying the beliefs of his religion by gambling.

Anyway, I think it would still be up to the person if he will choose not to bend the rules or go against it. Whichever he decides, we must respect his say.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: swogerino on September 10, 2019, 07:53:06 AM
I am not a Muslim but I have worked in some Muslim countries in Balkan like Bosnia.It is the same based on what I know from there,the money is still considered illegal because you get it from people who you are becoming a reason they join a gambling site or casino.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: muslol67 on September 10, 2019, 08:05:47 AM
I think the point we don't agree is different. I live in a Muslim country, and I think it's not about Islam because it's forbidden here. As you know, many Islamic countries are economically underdeveloped or developing economies. If gambling is released in these countries, it will be very difficult to follow the movement of money. This is one of the most important reasons why gambling is forbidden in my country.

However, in some countries ruled under strict Islamic conditions, prohibitions are made only because it is a sin. I mean, it has nothing to do with religion. It's more about what governments do.



Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: emberbekas on September 10, 2019, 08:33:57 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

If you care too much about the money you earn, whether it's halal or haram, it would be better not to promote gambling sites. I personally do not really care about the money I get as long as I don't steal, cheat, rob or commit other crimes.



Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: slaman29 on September 10, 2019, 08:53:42 AM
One of the dumbest questions to ask, to be honest. I'm not a religious person myself and I respect the beliefs of anyone, so they can practice and do whatever they want if it makes them feel good about themselves and it doesn't disturb me.

You know for some religions, like the one OP I know is for sure talking about, any form of risk and gambling is wrong. Which could even make crypto wrong if you're buying it for pure speculation. This also makes fiat buying for speculation wrong btw.

Remember, it is the intent, not the action.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Betwrong on September 10, 2019, 10:25:21 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I can be wrong, but I think that gambling is prohibited by many religions because this activity can potentially:

1. Make you greedy;

2. Harm you financially.

Greed is a sin because once you are possessed by it, you can't think of anything but your profit, while it is supposed that you should think about God in the first place.

When something harms you financially, you can end up losing your health or even your very life, and suicide is considered a sin in the Bible and the Quran, and, I'm sure, in other religious books too.

If you are earning your daily bread by promoting a gambling site, this activity can not be considered a sin because you need to eat to survive, and you have to somehow earn money for that. Similarly, it's not a sin to work in a supermarket where they sell pork or to work in a gun shop, although eating pork and killing is a sin.

Surely, there can be other interpretations of the holy books, but I don't give a damn about what religious fanatics say. In other words, that's just my opinion, I'm no preacher myself.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: XCANA on September 10, 2019, 10:51:23 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I can be wrong, but I think that gambling is prohibited by many religions because this activity can potentially:

1. Make you greedy;

2. Harm you financially.

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Surely, there can be other interpretations of the holy books, but I don't give a damn about what religious fanatics say. In other words, that's just my opinion, I'm no preacher myself.
You are a preacher base on these analysis of yours. Most of us here are somehow religious but still went ahead to promote gambling sites to earn for a living, these earned money are from those who lost to the system, most of them closed up savings and some get into debts of different kinds but we are still here doing promotion because we are not religious.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Barracuda on September 10, 2019, 10:53:50 AM
I am not a Muslim and I do not know much of their religion. But if gambling is prohibited in their religion for it is considered a sin, then anything in relation with gambling may also be considered a sin.

However, on another point of view, if he is only promoting a gambling site for it is his occupation, and he is not really gambling, then I don't think there is anything wrong with that. After all, he is just doing his job as an employee but not disobeying the beliefs of his religion by gambling.

Anyway, I think it would still be up to the person if he will choose not to bend the rules or go against it. Whichever he decides, we must respect his say.

Things like this are still confusing. Whether it's sin or not, if we promote a gambling site but we don't play on it. Some people say that they remain sinful, but for me that is a valid thing. Because we do not play, but only promote the gambling site so that many people play in it for people who like to gamble.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: lolxxxx on September 10, 2019, 10:59:26 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I am not Muslim but I have seen someone who I know refusing to promote sites related with lending and gambling site. Legal and things you don't do just because your religion prohibits are different.

I've seen some friends on mine who are not allowed to as said in religion but still they do. Its all about your views actually and how much you believe in it.



Still I want to know why gambling and lending is considered as sin? I mean reasoning behind it. Hope I am asking it correctly.

Lending is not considered as sin, Lending is considered sin only if you take interest on it as interest you get is just money that you are getting without making any effort and in Islam the money earned without any work and effort is haram.

Gambling is sin also because you are getting money on your money without effort and gambling make a person go mad and they do very bad things when they are gambling even they lose their house and all the things and even in gambling in old days people used to bet their women so that is why it is sin... To keep the community safe and secure.

Ask someone from Islamic forum or google it you will get a much better answer as I lack knowledge here.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Kasabus on September 10, 2019, 11:16:36 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

Legal refers to the law of the state while sin is on the law of the religion.
We have to specify it properly as in our country, religion are state are separate and the law of the state is applicable to all citizen while the law of the religion is within the religion only.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
It's a sin if his religion is Islam, but he won't be jailed for that one, honestly, I believe it's hard to discuss religion here because this is some kind of debate that will have no definite answer, unlike when we are debating a law of the state where there's a complete basis.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: mitchr4 on September 10, 2019, 11:37:13 AM
I am not a Muslim and I do not know much of their religion. But if gambling is prohibited in their religion for it is considered a sin, then anything in relation with gambling may also be considered a sin.

However, on another point of view, if he is only promoting a gambling site for it is his occupation, and he is not really gambling, then I don't think there is anything wrong with that. After all, he is just doing his job as an employee but not disobeying the beliefs of his religion by gambling.

Anyway, I think it would still be up to the person if he will choose not to bend the rules or go against it. Whichever he decides, we must respect his say.

Things like this are still confusing. Whether it's sin or not, if we promote a gambling site but we don't play on it. Some people say that they remain sinful, but for me that is a valid thing. Because we do not play, but only promote the gambling site so that many people play in it for people who like to gamble.
In Islam, gambling is bad so anything related is considered a sin. Also, include promoting a gambling site because they help the owner and attract the attention of other people (no matter his religion) to make sins (play gambling). It doesn't matter if a Muslim doesn't play but if they promote it is still prohibited in his religion.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: DoublerHunter on September 10, 2019, 11:47:28 AM
~snip~
It's a sin if his religion is Islam, but he won't be jailed for that one, honestly, I believe it's hard to discuss religion here because this is some kind of debate that will have no definite answer, unlike when we are debating a law of the state where there's a complete basis.
^ The reason is every one of here was have a  different religion and I respect everyone belief when it comes religious topics. So, if gambling is strictly prohibited in your place then respect the law that implemented. Obey it or you probably put in jail once you have been caught. You can promote gambling in social media using the unknown name if you really wanted to promote. Nevertheless, I am very lucky that I am a Christian and we are not strict on promoting gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: XCANA on September 10, 2019, 11:48:06 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I'm a Christian and I'm promoting gambling sites to all my peers, as an entertainment venue, because I do entertain while playing various games in gambling sites and I'm not a very religious person as long as I'm not harming any creature or using lying and deceiving just to entice people to join I don't believe I am making a sin.
For clarification purpose, what you earned from gambling or from be promoting gambling platforms are from those peers of yours who lost to the system, many of those who put their families and love ones into starvation and you call it not a sin?. Your  promoting the gambling platforms made them starved their families and loved ones. Although am not too religious and I like gambling, gambling is  also part of me but not addicted either.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on September 10, 2019, 11:58:36 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
The decision of the religion is final, you can't offer it and ask to change the decision. Which is mean if your regilion has prohibited to gambling then all the part of it will be harmful as well. Either you playing it or even you just promoted the gambling site and the answer will be prohibited.



Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Finestream on September 10, 2019, 12:26:59 PM
~snip~
It's a sin if his religion is Islam, but he won't be jailed for that one, honestly, I believe it's hard to discuss religion here because this is some kind of debate that will have no definite answer, unlike when we are debating a law of the state where there's a complete basis.
^ The reason is every one of here was have a  different religion and I respect everyone belief when it comes religious topics. So, if gambling is strictly prohibited in your place then respect the law that implemented. Obey it or you probably put in jail once you have been caught. You can promote gambling in social media using the unknown name if you really wanted to promote. Nevertheless, I am very lucky that I am a Christian and we are not strict on promoting gambling.
Gambling is illegal in China but their citizen are still finding a way to gamble, so I think people aren't afraid to break the rules and regulation as long as they will not be caught. Your enemy when you violate the law in your religion is yourself or your conscience and it will hunt you forever if you have high belief in your religion and you keep violating the law. If I have to choose, I will choose to violate the law of the land than the law of God because the law of the land is just created by people which is created by God.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: tsaroz on September 10, 2019, 01:01:14 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I'm no specialist about the Islam religion but Islam can be easily manipulated to mean a different thing according to the people who lead it.
The ancient text of Islam has greatly described about the alcohol but many believe alcohol is haram by Islam.
Some hardcore Islamist believe music to be a haram.
In real Islam, anything you do with good intent is always a halal. Don't let any other impose over your thoughts.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: peter0425 on September 10, 2019, 01:21:57 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
You should known that from your conscience mate because the true Believer and follower of religions knew the good and bad from inside and not from what is told from outside

You are asking this because you felt like doing wrong ,and for me yeah this is the same from getting money in gambling

These people involved in the project isn’t literally hiring you to promote their gambling project so even if they don’t even started the motive is clear and that’s from gambling .


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: dothebeats on September 10, 2019, 02:05:43 PM
I know something about Islam in general and this is what we call maisiror taking some money/gain by chance and without effort. Gambling falls under that, and it is considered a sin when it comes to the Islamic law. The one you are pertaining to falls under the a type of maisir known as qimar, which is described to as "receiving money/profit at the expense of others; obtaining money by means of resorting to chance." Be it direct or not, taking money off of advertising gambling sites always falls under qimar, knowing that the services pay you whatever it rakes on upon its users. In a way, faithful Muslims may deem it illegal, but others, I'm not quite sure.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: thisappointed on September 10, 2019, 02:08:54 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?


Of course it is not legal, gambling is still gambling no matter what form of gambling we are talking about here. The only thing that is good about cryptocurrency gambling sites is that you are anonymous, so no one will know if you are an Islam or whatever religion you are in, that is why you don't care if the money you are earning are illegal in the real life, but the question here is, could be beat your guilt?

Guilt will prevent you from having a good sleep at night if you really did a bad thing that you don't want to do in the first place. So if you are not into gambling, don't even think about earning money from it.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Ryker1 on September 10, 2019, 04:15:57 PM
Well yes, gambling is prohibited in Islam because they believe that it is easy money. What is written in the Qur'an is that in order for you to eat you must work hard for it? But debating on this and arguing is not having sense because we had a different religion and we all respect on what we believe. The luckiest part we can now gamble on the website and hide from who prohibit gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Tungsten-1 on September 10, 2019, 07:20:43 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
The decision of the religion is final, you can't offer it and ask to change the decision. Which is mean if your regilion has prohibited to gambling then all the part of it will be harmful as well. Either you playing it or even you just promoted the gambling site and the answer will be prohibited.


Yes if your religion don’t allow you to gamble then don’t gamble but it’s ok to gamble in fairly way in my religion as well it’s not allow to gamble but only in case if you were not having chances to lose as there is hard work and risk to invest your money in gambling then it’s ok to gamble but try not to use and wrong way for it.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Yamifoud on September 11, 2019, 02:35:29 AM
A pure Islam knows better the do's and dont's in their religion. If gambling is prohibited, then any kind related to gambling like promoting it like you've said as a source of income is not a legal to them. It is like promoting a certain thing that against the religion. An Islam will definitely look for another source of income aside from being a promoter of a gambling site for him/her not to be able to have a sin.
It is something they have to protect what they believe and what they see from the illegalities inside gambling. It have to respect them but it is to sad that some of our Muslim  brothers never follow of what their leaders says, instead the started to create some illegalities. Though not particularly in gambling but in the other area  in order to make money which it is all be the same...

Well,  for me...either it is came from gambling I felt not guilty cause I've doing it legally and fair to everyone.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: TopT3ns on September 11, 2019, 03:20:48 AM
A pure Islam knows better the do's and dont's in their religion. If gambling is prohibited, then any kind related to gambling like promoting it like you've said as a source of income is not a legal to them. It is like promoting a certain thing that against the religion. An Islam will definitely look for another source of income aside from being a promoter of a gambling site for him/her not to be able to have a sin.
Agree with you,for someone who really strict in his religion, there are a lot of ways beside gambling and other "illegal" things that he still can do. Although i am muslim, i still not resist if sometime i play gambling too even i know it is a sin. But i have big respect for people who still keep their mind to avoid gambling and another sin. Maybe soon i hope i can change and not gamble anymore.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: michellee on September 11, 2019, 03:31:50 AM
A pure Islam knows better the do's and dont's in their religion. If gambling is prohibited, then any kind related to gambling like promoting it like you've said as a source of income is not a legal to them. It is like promoting a certain thing that against the religion. An Islam will definitely look for another source of income aside from being a promoter of a gambling site for him/her not to be able to have a sin.
Agree with you,for someone who really strict in his religion, there are a lot of ways beside gambling and other "illegal" things that he still can do. Although i am muslim, i still not resist if sometime i play gambling too even i know it is a sin. But i have big respect for people who still keep their mind to avoid gambling and another sin. Maybe soon i hope i can change and not gamble anymore.

The fanatic people will avoid playing gambling because it is not right with their heart. I am sure someday you will change your habit, and you will leave gambling forever. As long as you can manage your money and not become addicted, you are good to go, but please remember that you need to know that playing gambling is not a way to make money. I hope that you can give good things in someday especially for your life ;)


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Ucy on September 11, 2019, 06:59:49 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

They should be all illegal for Muslims I guess. If gambling is banned where you live, I assume promoting it is also illegal.
 You probably should start looking for another kind of signature to promote especially if promoting gambling makes you uncomfortable.
My religion does not forbid it. I searched the Holybook for prohibition before joining this campaign but found nothing. So I don't worry too much.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Rufsilf on September 11, 2019, 08:07:03 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
Any benefits from the prohibited this is a sin I guess but I don't think there is nothing wrong with gambling as long as you are in control of yourself while doing it.
Gambling + money = sin
I never think that gambling is a sin,  it maybe we could only say that if it is run illegally but not all gambling sites like that. Some of us they look it in general having them to think that all just the same.  

Anyway,  we all have different in appreciations towards gambling and yet to push our Muslim brothers to believe what we think about gambling. They'll have it and it is totally prohibited base of what their oldies told then.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Finestream on September 11, 2019, 08:41:04 AM
So people doing all the good things said in QUARAN?

First, you misspelled it, it should be Quran.
Second, those muslims only, if they are a real believer, they will do the good teachings in the book of Quran.

not right then why they take gambling related things to this much.Even harming someone with harsh words is sin in Quaran I guess!

It's up to individual person because like other religion, there are people who does not follow the teaching of their religion and they do the opposite, some with muslims, their are people who follow the teaching while there are some who didn't and gambling means not following the teaching.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: TheUltraElite on September 11, 2019, 08:54:27 AM
So people doing all the good things said in QUARAN? not right then why they take gambling related things to this much.Even harming someone with harsh words is sin in Quaran I guess!
People should stop putting religion in front of everything. If you think it is not something that the holy books say then dont gamble. Simple and no complication thing. If you are addicted you have work it out or seek professional help. Someone who believes in the holy books - written by nothing else than other humans and considers those as words of Almighty, can decide how to redeem themselves.

The fact is that some religious extremists become stubborn and think too much. Its all a personal choice about what people should do and what they can do. Religions try to put our goals in front and makes our lives better in a way. But it is totally your choice whether to follow it gamble your money or not. Those who want to promote let them promote. If something bad will happen to them - who are you to judge that? Causation is not proven by making connections like this without scientific proof.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: javadsalehi on September 11, 2019, 09:11:01 AM
I don't think here is a good place to find the answer of your question. Personally I don't pay much attention to these things and act however I think it is right. As I read some replies to your post I see people's opinion are very different. Because usually even the people who are of a same religion have different opinions.
If you are a religious person and such things matter to you, should ask from an expert person who is qualified. People here give you different opinions and none of them is 100% right.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: MonsterV on September 11, 2019, 09:26:18 AM
Indeed, there are some religions that clearly prohibit all things related to gambling. So not only people who play gambling but they also promote it, just take an example in Islam, if you are a Muslim you surely know about sins of usury and prohibition of anyone involved in usury. So it's same as gambling, it will be a sin for anyone involved in gambling, whether it's promoting, supporting, partners, etc. Maybe that's all I know, I hope you don't ask my religion and why I use this signature.

A pure Islam knows better the do's and dont's in their religion. If gambling is prohibited, then any kind related to gambling like promoting it like you've said as a source of income is not a legal to them. It is like promoting a certain thing that against the religion. An Islam will definitely look for another source of income aside from being a promoter of a gambling site for him/her not to be able to have a sin.

Well, but most people now prefer to think realistically, regardless of religion. We just see a lot of rampant crime, certainly perpetrators have religion, but they think more realistically than religious. Including a gambler now, they only think about how to get money and will never remember sin.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Betwrong on September 11, 2019, 09:41:29 AM
~]In Islam, gambling is bad so anything related is considered a sin. Also, include promoting a gambling site because they help the owner and attract the attention of other people (no matter his religion) to make sins (play gambling). It doesn't matter if a Muslim doesn't play but if they promote it is still prohibited in his religion.

Are you sure about this? Because, by googling, I can't find anything even close to what you said.

It's not that I personally care much about it, but I'm sure there are people who do, and I think you should provide quotes and links when making such statements. Some people earn their bread by promoting gambling sites, and some of them are religious. Who are you to call them sinners?


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: sheenshane on September 11, 2019, 10:01:41 AM
~]In Islam, gambling is bad so anything related is considered a sin. Also, include promoting a gambling site because they help the owner and attract the attention of other people (no matter his religion) to make sins (play gambling). It doesn't matter if a Muslim doesn't play but if they promote it is still prohibited in his religion.

It's not that I personally care much about it, but I'm sure there are people who do, and I think you should provide quotes and links when making such statements. Some people earn their bread by promoting gambling sites, and some of them are religious. Who are you to call them sinners?
I'm not a part of Islam people but I have found an article saying that gamblers and those who drink wine are sinners.

“They ask you [Muhammad] concerning wine and gambling. Say: ‘In them is a great sin, and some profit, for men; but the sin is greater than the profit.’… Thus does Allah Make clear to you His Signs, in order that you may consider” (Quran 2:219).
Quote
“O you who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, dedication of stones, and divination by arrows, are an abomination of Satan's handwork. Eschew such abomination, that you may prosper” (Quran 5:90).

This is not a big deal and no need to argue regarding that matter, we just respect of what Islamic people religious belief and fortunately I'm a Christian and I'm free to gamble either offline or online gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: iMark on September 11, 2019, 10:37:37 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I'm no specialist about the Islam religion but Islam can be easily manipulated to mean a different thing according to the people who lead it.
The ancient text of Islam has greatly described about the alcohol but many believe alcohol is haram by Islam.
Some hardcore Islamist believe music to be a haram.
In real Islam, anything you do with good intent is always a halal. Don't let any other impose over your thoughts.
in Islam there are indeed some religious leader thought that have differences of opinion about it, sometimes haram or halal depending on the intentions of the person, for example when you have good intentions to seek sustenance from marketing gambling to support your family  by your salary there, then the law will turn into halal, that said some leaders. But for gambling is prohibited in Islam because it has a bad influence on the players. but it all goes back to each player who wants to obey it or not


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: xSkylarx on September 11, 2019, 12:06:35 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

Promoting a gambling business and doing it directly is different. You don't spend money on promoting a gambling site, you just help it to promote their business to have customers and the money you've earned from it came from the owner's budget not in a gambling game. Meanwhile if you gamble directly, you rely on luck to earn money which has a bad effect if you get addicted. I don't know the religion about Islam but maybe it is stated clearly on your bible there.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: jakoylantern on September 11, 2019, 03:47:30 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

For me, it depends if the Islam religions still consider promoting gambling sites on any social media is a sin. But like other Christians in our religion dirty money on gambling is also consider as a sin, illegal is illegal in any forms of the law there will be illegal to you or your religion and state, but it is not unlawful to other religion and nation. Also, take note that if you consider that the things that you do are illegal, it's dependently a sin because different people have different belief and laws. :)


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: imstillthebest on September 11, 2019, 04:28:42 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

For me, it depends if the Islam religions still consider promoting gambling sites on any social media is a sin. But like other Christians in our religion dirty money on gambling is also consider as a sin, illegal is illegal in any forms of the law there will be illegal to you or your religion and state, but it is not unlawful to other religion and nation. Also, take note that if you consider that the things that you do are illegal, it's dependently a sin because different people have different belief and laws. :)

but i think christian will still risk his religion to do unwanted things just because he want it or he badly need it  while other religion such as islam are more modest and are too devoted that they wont do crimes or illegality even for thier own sake  .  

gambling marketing is still related to gambling however its more of a sin if you are decieving people by using false promises just because you wanted to attract more playerss to play on what you are promoting  


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: madnessteat on September 11, 2019, 04:34:02 PM
~snip~

That's a good question. I live in Russia. Russia is a multinational country and we have adherents of Islam. As far as I know in the Koran it is written that gambling is a fiction of the devil. Alcoholic beverages are also prohibited under the Koran, but many Islamists whom I know can afford to drink under the roof of the house. They say that this is how Allah does not see them. Others, on the other hand, clearly adhere to the rules and do not break them.

So your question is more about a person's personal beliefs.



Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on September 11, 2019, 08:00:23 PM
Don't advertise what you won't used personally that's the advice I always use. If you won't gamble don't advertise a gambling platform. It's called been a hypocrite when you do that. So your culture doesn't approve of gambling, meaning you don't gamble personally because it's considered a sin, why then who you be encouraging others to gamble just for the bitcoin cash reward? It make no sense both morally and ethically as you're simply encouraging others to sin while been a saint (base on your culture) which is another sin all together.

Now if you're advertising a non gamble platform but get paid with gambling money without you having any knowledge the source of the money you're recieving is gambling related then such case is different. You won't be judged I believe so but in situations which you're aware but due to greediness or ignorance you still accept the fund then you're no different from the gamblers since you're encouraging the act.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: DireWolfM14 on September 11, 2019, 08:58:33 PM
I'm not religious, and I have no objection to gambling as a form of entertainment.  I do object when it becomes an addiction, and people are hurt by it.  I don't gamble myself, so I would not advertise a gambling service.

Here in the United states a lot of Muslim Arab immigrants (including some members of my extended family,) run liquor stores even though they don't drink.  It seems hypocritical to me, but who am I to judge?  Promoting gambling seems like the same thing to me.  If those selling alcohol can reconcile their religious beliefs with their business, I don't see why one promoting gambling can't do the same.

But since you brought up the concern, it seems like you already have some reservations about doing so.  I'd say talk to other member of your religion whom you respect, your family, friends, and your Imam, and proceed in the way that fits best with your beliefs.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: btc78 on September 11, 2019, 09:22:17 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I'm not a very religious person but I do not attach my gambling habit to my religion, as long I'm not doing any hard to my fellow-creature, I'm ok with gambling and promoting it, just don't promote scam gambling site, or you are stealing from the poor guy, and promote it like a site to have some fun not to get rich.
Well ours are different from what’s OP.because for him or he’s religion is too far from what we are standing..we can just play,promote and even live with gambling while for OP it wasn’t applicable so I respect the position


I don't think here is a good place to find the answer of your question. Personally I don't pay much attention to these things and act however I think it is right. As I read some replies to your post I see people's opinion are very different. Because usually even the people who are of a same religion have different opinions.
If you are a religious person and such things matter to you, should ask from an expert person who is qualified. People here give you different opinions and none of them is 100% right.
That’s why he is looking for some rightful answers here ,Maybe OP thinks there are some of his kind that seeking same answer so he put the question here

But the better person to ask is their Teacher/Pastor/Priest or whatever they called on their religion because nothing than anyone Him is the best to give answer


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Oyarebu on September 11, 2019, 09:31:55 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
Any benefits from the prohibited this is a sin I guess but I don't think there is nothing wrong with gambling as long as you are in control of yourself while doing it.
Absolutely nothing is wrong in as much a gambler can know his or her limit while gambling. There are many who don't know his to set limit while playing online casinos. Be in control of the games make one a good and a responsible gambler.

In my opinion, whatsoever I cannot eat I will not give to another. Promoting a gambling platform while you are not a gambler shouldn't be because you promote what you do and not what you don't do. What you do is what you can convince somebody to do and not the other way round. I have come across someone who don't promote gambling platform's on this exalted Bitcoin forum.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: rodel caling on September 11, 2019, 10:37:24 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?



Promoting gambling is also a sin why not follow to your religion command is also as in, so is better to leave if you gambling is sin from your religion. Why it because how you can promote gambling if the promoter not playing gamble.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Japinat on September 11, 2019, 11:05:52 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
Promoting gambling is also a sin why not follow to your religion command is also as in, so is better to leave if you gambling is sin from your religion. Why it because how you can promote gambling if the promoter not playing gamble.

Sometimes people are just justifying their wrong doing when actually it's easy to understand the law or the teaching of the religion.
When it says gambling is against the teaching, anything that can be earned related to gambling, directly or indirectly is always against the teaching.

In the end, this depends on how a follower would absorb the teaching, if they widen their mind and accept it fully, they will never associate themselves in any gambling activity.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: samputin on September 11, 2019, 11:56:19 PM
-snip-

Things like this are still confusing. Whether it's sin or not, if we promote a gambling site but we don't play on it. Some people say that they remain sinful, but for me that is a valid thing. Because we do not play, but only promote the gambling site so that many people play in it for people who like to gamble.
It is indeed confusing especially that these opinions are mostly from us who do not belong to the said religion. Different perspectives will be given. Some will agree and some will don't.

I guess the only one who can really justify that question is someone who is a Muslim or knows a lot about the religion and its beliefs.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: maydna on September 12, 2019, 02:23:44 AM
~snip~

That's a good question. I live in Russia. Russia is a multinational country and we have adherents of Islam. As far as I know in the Koran it is written that gambling is a fiction of the devil. Alcoholic beverages are also prohibited under the Koran, but many Islamists whom I know can afford to drink under the roof of the house. They say that this is how Allah does not see them. Others, on the other hand, clearly adhere to the rules and do not break them.

So your question is more about a person's personal beliefs.



There's nothing to do with personal beliefs if a person wanted and desires to get into gambling marketing. Most importantly we're not humiliating other people and we're just doing gambling to entertain everyone whose in need to unwind.

When one topic related to religion, there will be differences opinion from us, and I don't think that there will be an ending way to get an agreement. Because we have a different point of view, whether we are a person who is religious or not, so if you want to do gambling marketing, you can go with that way but before you do that, ask yourself and see what the answer is.

When you can feel that doing gambling marketing is no problem for you, then it is okay to continue. But if your heart says no, then you should try with the other ways. It is how we can make a deal with our heart in going with our life.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: TopT3ns on September 12, 2019, 02:37:21 AM
A pure Islam knows better the do's and dont's in their religion. If gambling is prohibited, then any kind related to gambling like promoting it like you've said as a source of income is not a legal to them. It is like promoting a certain thing that against the religion. An Islam will definitely look for another source of income aside from being a promoter of a gambling site for him/her not to be able to have a sin.
Agree with you,for someone who really strict in his religion, there are a lot of ways beside gambling and other "illegal" things that he still can do. Although i am muslim, i still not resist if sometime i play gambling too even i know it is a sin. But i have big respect for people who still keep their mind to avoid gambling and another sin. Maybe soon i hope i can change and not gamble anymore.

The fanatic people will avoid playing gambling because it is not right with their heart. I am sure someday you will change your habit, and you will leave gambling forever. As long as you can manage your money and not become addicted, you are good to go, but please remember that you need to know that playing gambling is not a way to make money. I hope that you can give good things in someday especially for your life ;)
Yes, we can't force them to do something that they not want. And about play gambling, usually i bet on soccer that my favourite team play. That is why maybe i am not addicted yet (i hope not addicted) because at least i can analyze better than if i bet on team that i not really know. But sometime i missed my bet and lose. But that is ok i am not use a lot of money when bet.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: lighpulsar07 on September 12, 2019, 09:13:38 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I think that's legal since you aren't the one who gambling the money instead you are referring potential users to gamble on their casino. you are paid to refer people at the casino so, that you earn from referring isn't "dirty money" since you earned that money in legal means.

This is a little off-topic but i'll share this situation since we talked about islam and gambling anyway by the way this happened last night. While i am going home i saw a couple the man is Muslim and the woman is christian (based on the way she looks) came out from the e-bingo casino arguing and suddenly the man bitch slap the woman the security guard came to stop the fight after the drama ended and the couple was taken to the police station  i asked the security guard what happened the guard told me the man has a religious beliefs and gambling is illegal in Islam.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Barracuda on September 12, 2019, 08:24:44 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I think that's legal since you aren't the one who gambling the money instead you are referring potential users to gamble on their casino. you are paid to refer people at the casino so, that you earn from referring isn't "dirty money" since you earned that money in legal means.


This kind of thinking is the same as what I think. It is true that it is legitimate, because we do not directly gamble, only promote it. Because I personally believe, there are so many people here who like to play gambling and that's why I also want to promote gambling for them.

And the point is our money is not dirty money!


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Renampun on September 12, 2019, 09:49:40 PM
This kind of thinking is the same as what I think. It is true that it is legitimate, because we do not directly gamble, only promote it. Because I personally believe, there are so many people here who like to play gambling and that's why I also want to promote gambling for them.

And the point is our money is not dirty money!
Dirty money is money obtained from corruption, drug sales/women sales, robbery and fraud.
if we get money from promoting gambling sites that are not dirty, we get paid because our services participate in promoting the sites.
IMO, that does not violate religious norms.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: dunfida on September 12, 2019, 09:53:30 PM
This kind of thinking is the same as what I think. It is true that it is legitimate, because we do not directly gamble, only promote it. Because I personally believe, there are so many people here who like to play gambling and that's why I also want to promote gambling for them.

And the point is our money is not dirty money!
Dirty money is money obtained from corruption, drug sales/women sales, robbery and fraud.
if we get money from promoting gambling sites that are not dirty, we get paid because our services participate in promoting the sites.
IMO, that does not violate religious norms.
It does violate but only on Islam religion and i cant see any religion that do have that kind of prohibition or treatment when it comes to gambling.

They can treat bad as they want but we know on whats the true essence of being illegal and gambling is excluded to that list.
We obtain the money legally and theres nothing wrong about it.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: hahay on September 12, 2019, 09:57:57 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
I think promoting it is still part of the religious prohibition that you mean about this. If religion forbids gambling and part of sin, then promoting it is a form of support about gambling itself, so both are still the same part, IMO.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: pixie85 on September 12, 2019, 10:03:08 PM
Some Muslims drink alcohol other don't. I'm sure some will gamble and say it's all right by their faith and some will say it's forbidden. There's as many interpretations of religions as there are people.

I'm not a religious person and I don't care about their rules but the way I see it gambling is gambling and promoting gambling is promoting gambling. If gambling is forbidden in your religion but you're working for a casino and not gambling yourself you aren't breaking any rules.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Oceat on September 12, 2019, 10:59:06 PM
This kind of thinking is the same as what I think. It is true that it is legitimate, because we do not directly gamble, only promote it. Because I personally believe, there are so many people here who like to play gambling and that's why I also want to promote gambling for them.

And the point is our money is not dirty money!
Dirty money is money obtained from corruption, drug sales/women sales, robbery and fraud.
if we get money from promoting gambling sites that are not dirty, we get paid because our services participate in promoting the sites.
IMO, that does not violate religious norms.
It does violate but only on Islam religion and i cant see any religion that do have that kind of prohibition or treatment when it comes to gambling.

They can treat bad as they want but we know on whats the true essence of being illegal and gambling is excluded to that list.
We obtain the money legally and theres nothing wrong about it.
I don't know about Islam religious beliefs but gambling is everywhere and taking money from someone legally through gambling is still the same as long as there is gambling involved. I think it is on the person's point of view on how he would handle the logic and righteousness in the gambling business.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Hypnosis00 on September 12, 2019, 11:45:18 PM
Some Muslims drink alcohol other don't. I'm sure some will gamble and say it's all right by their faith and some will say it's forbidden. There's as many interpretations of religions as there are people.

This is not to open our Muslim's brothers but that is the reality and I saw it also. It is to think that some of them are not following their rules and that is so-called freedom. I believe there is no wrong with that if we never been involved in illegal activities.

We don't need to generalize it and think that gambling is bad, it is only our own perceptions that make it bad.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: mirakal on September 13, 2019, 06:56:24 AM
Some Muslims drink alcohol other don't. I'm sure some will gamble and say it's all right by their faith and some will say it's forbidden. There's as many interpretations of religions as there are people.

This is not to open our Muslim's brothers but that is the reality and I saw it also. It is to think that some of them are not following their rules and that is so-called freedom. I believe there is no wrong with that if we never been involved in illegal activities.

We don't need to generalize it and think that gambling is bad, it is only our own perceptions that make it bad.


Because if we generalize it, we will be judging people that they are doing the right thing, everyone has their own belief and only God can judge us, when it comes to salvation, we just need to do what is right because we cannot save other people surrounding us.

Further, even in one religion, we might also have different interpretation, just like Christians, they have different religion but they are all believers in God and they don't directly preach that gambling is a sin because this depends on how people will become when they gamble.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: dentolas on September 13, 2019, 07:24:59 AM
seems straight forward that the money comming from promoting something illegal, is in itself illegal...
Same thing would be if you were promoting drugs, but not directly selling them... think about it
We can agree with Islam view or not, nevertheless if anyone wants to follow it, it should not search for backdoors...


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: dentolas on September 13, 2019, 07:28:38 AM
Some Muslims drink alcohol other don't. I'm sure some will gamble and say it's all right by their faith and some will say it's forbidden. There's as many interpretations of religions as there are people.

This is not to open our Muslim's brothers but that is the reality and I saw it also. It is to think that some of them are not following their rules and that is so-called freedom. I believe there is no wrong with that if we never been involved in illegal activities.

We don't need to generalize it and think that gambling is bad, it is only our own perceptions that make it bad.


Because if we generalize it, we will be judging people that they are doing the right thing, everyone has their own belief and only God can judge us, when it comes to salvation, we just need to do what is right because we cannot save other people surrounding us.

Further, even in one religion, we might also have different interpretation, just like Christians, they have different religion but they are all believers in God and they don't directly preach that gambling is a sin because this depends on how people will become when they gamble.

I agree, gambling is a game... like so many others (even on TV there are games in which you make an expensive phonecall to be able to participate in a prize draw)...
The thing is that we need balance to do some healthy gambling, otherwise it can become a problem... but this is true for almost everything... eating, drinking, etc...


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: swogerino on September 13, 2019, 08:35:21 AM
Some Muslims drink alcohol other don't. I'm sure some will gamble and say it's all right by their faith and some will say it's forbidden. There's as many interpretations of religions as there are people.

This is not to open our Muslim's brothers but that is the reality and I saw it also. It is to think that some of them are not following their rules and that is so-called freedom. I believe there is no wrong with that if we never been involved in illegal activities.

We don't need to generalize it and think that gambling is bad, it is only our own perceptions that make it bad.


Because if we generalize it, we will be judging people that they are doing the right thing, everyone has their own belief and only God can judge us, when it comes to salvation, we just need to do what is right because we cannot save other people surrounding us.

Further, even in one religion, we might also have different interpretation, just like Christians, they have different religion but they are all believers in God and they don't directly preach that gambling is a sin because this depends on how people will become when they gamble.

I agree, gambling is a game... like so many others (even on TV there are games in which you make an expensive phonecall to be able to participate in a prize draw)...
The thing is that we need balance to do some healthy gambling, otherwise it can become a problem... but this is true for almost everything... eating, drinking, etc...

Gambling is everywhere,even when you buy a can of Coca Cola many times you are automatically entered in a draw to win something they offer in promotion.This is not harmful and is perfectly fine with many religions too.
When excessive marketing is done in tv like is the case nowadays promoting sites like betfair and bet365 that is not fine with religion and it may have bad impacts on certain people who may start gambling and becoming addicts.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: livingfree on September 13, 2019, 09:23:43 AM
seems straight forward that the money comming from promoting something illegal, is in itself illegal...
It varies and not most of the time. Since the topic is all about religion that can be classified inside to their religion but talking about legally, as long as the gov't is allowing it, you cannot say that it is illegal.

You can ask a consultant or any legal counsel for that specific country but if the religion is already including, it only applies to the people that are member of it.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Icologies on September 13, 2019, 09:36:46 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
gambling is definitely prohibited, let alone spreading gambling sites on social media. people's responses are different about gambling and various forms of gambling. it is difficult for ordinary people to distinguish between gambling and non-gambling. so whatever we do if it's good then do it but if not stay away.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: XCANA on September 13, 2019, 09:40:18 AM
seems straight forward that the money comming from promoting something illegal, is in itself illegal...
It varies and not most of the time. Since the topic is all about religion that can be classified inside to their religion but talking about legally, as long as the gov't is allowing it, you cannot say that it is illegal.

You can ask a consultant or any legal counsel for that specific country but if the religion is already including, it only applies to the people that are member of it.
Very correct, when you belong to an association you are bound with their rules and regulations, also, when you are from a country that give free hand to her citizens to gamble, you are free to do if and only if you are not a member of any other association or groups that ban the same gambling. Christianity and Islam are strongly against gambling and whosoever belong to these groups is also bound by it laws.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: vintages on September 13, 2019, 01:49:37 PM
seems straight forward that the money comming from promoting something illegal, is in itself illegal...
Same thing would be if you were promoting drugs, but not directly selling them... think about it
We can agree with Islam view or not, nevertheless if anyone wants to follow it, it should not search for backdoors...

I think you are missing the word here.
When it comes to religion, what makes it not acceptable is that whether it is considered as a 'sin' or not. And has nothing to do with being 'illegal' which is mostly use for non religious unacceptable activities.

That been said, OP, I feel one should do what is considered right by one's conscience.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: qwertyup23 on September 13, 2019, 02:04:46 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

Gambling and advertising/promoting a certain gambling website are two different things that may seem similar. Although one might argue that promoting something that is illegal is the same as doing the action, they are still different in nature.
To be honest, it also depends on the religion and about their rules and regulations with certain acts (i.e. gambling, etc.). Like what you mentioned, Islam prohibits gambling but other religion prohibits the implication and effect you get from it.

At the end of the day, everything boils down to your character as an individual. Whether or not certain things/acts are prohibited due to a conflict with religion, what matters is the character and the overall attitude of a person.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: dunfida on September 13, 2019, 05:25:08 PM
This kind of thinking is the same as what I think. It is true that it is legitimate, because we do not directly gamble, only promote it. Because I personally believe, there are so many people here who like to play gambling and that's why I also want to promote gambling for them.

And the point is our money is not dirty money!
Dirty money is money obtained from corruption, drug sales/women sales, robbery and fraud.
if we get money from promoting gambling sites that are not dirty, we get paid because our services participate in promoting the sites.
IMO, that does not violate religious norms.
It does violate but only on Islam religion and i cant see any religion that do have that kind of prohibition or treatment when it comes to gambling.

They can treat bad as they want but we know on whats the true essence of being illegal and gambling is excluded to that list.
We obtain the money legally and theres nothing wrong about it.
I don't know about Islam religious beliefs but gambling is everywhere and taking money from someone legally through gambling is still the same as long as there is gambling involved. I think it is on the person's point of view on how he would handle the logic and righteousness in the gambling business.
Im aint islam but you can read up about on whats its being prohibited.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maisir
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/4013/wisdom-behind-the-prohibition-on-gambling

Its their own beliefs, so theres nothing we can do if they do view that way.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: iamsheikhadil on September 13, 2019, 06:26:48 PM
If you follow religion, according to my religion (Islam) it's definitely a forbidden money. Why? Because it's earnt not as a hard work but by exploiting the psychology of the victim by showing him greedy ads to gamble. You may say that "oh, he's an adult, he can make his own choices, I didn't force him to join" but still, you have to take a blame too. So yeah, money earnt in that way is considered haram (forbidden) too :)


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: SquallLeonhart on September 13, 2019, 06:38:01 PM
I'm not religious, and I have no objection to gambling as a form of entertainment.  I do object when it becomes an addiction, and people are hurt by it.  I don't gamble myself, so I would not advertise a gambling service.

Here in the United states a lot of Muslim Arab immigrants (including some members of my extended family,) run liquor stores even though they don't drink.  It seems hypocritical to me, but who am I to judge?  Promoting gambling seems like the same thing to me.  If those selling alcohol can reconcile their religious beliefs with their business, I don't see why one promoting gambling can't do the same.

But since you brought up the concern, it seems like you already have some reservations about doing so.  I'd say talk to other member of your religion whom you respect, your family, friends, and your Imam, and proceed in the way that fits best with your beliefs.
If you don’t gamble and will not advertise a gambling site like you proclaim, then I suggest you shouldn’t even be on a gambling forum in the first place. What about the campaign logo you carry, or isn’t that also an act of hypocrites’? Truth be told, we can’t always do all what we preach, and we don’t always preach all we do, circumstances and hustle makes some people find themselves where they would naturally never want to be.

I use myself for example, I don’t gamble but I am a strong promoter of gambling, reason because I get paid, and also that I do not gamble does not make it wrong, I might have personal reasons why I don’t do that and that shouldn’t stop me from promoting it and after all, in all promotions, we always advise players to play with caution to avoid suffering addiction at the end.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: DarkDays on September 13, 2019, 07:07:19 PM
Then we are all sinners then. Literally everything we do is a gamble of odds, we step out the door knowing we might get struck by lightning. We get on planes knowing they could fall out of the sky etc, most of the things we do are not done out of necessity, but out of want.

Unless the Quoran or any other religion text specifically prohibits gambling with money, I wouldn't look too much into it. Society is changing, if God doesn't understand that, then he has no right being God.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: DireWolfM14 on September 13, 2019, 08:06:35 PM
If you don’t gamble and will not advertise a gambling site like you proclaim, then I suggest you shouldn’t even be on a gambling forum in the first place. What about the campaign logo you carry, or isn’t that also an act of hypocrites’? Truth be told, we can’t always do all what we preach, and we don’t always preach all we do, circumstances and hustle makes some people find themselves where they would naturally never want to be.

I use myself for example, I don’t gamble but I am a strong promoter of gambling, reason because I get paid, and also that I do not gamble does not make it wrong, I might have personal reasons why I don’t do that and that shouldn’t stop me from promoting it and after all, in all promotions, we always advise players to play with caution to avoid suffering addiction at the end.

1) This isn't a gambling forum.  It's a bitcoin forum with a board titled "gambling discussion," where I'm entitled to discuss gambling as much as I want.

2) Explain how promoting my own lending thread is hypocritical (while you're promoting a scam exchange, lol!)

3) I see, you're ethics are less important than your income, but I'm the hypocrite?  Do you even know what the word hypocrite means?



Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: jhongzjhong on September 13, 2019, 08:31:50 PM
3) I see, you're ethics are less important than your income, but I'm the hypocrite?  Do you even know what the word hypocrite means?
Lol, who is that? This is a person who always pretending regarding his/her belief or attitude when they are not really them. Correct, don't just pretending on what you have belief. Besides, just do what you want and don't listen to those who prohibited you to gamble just because of your belief. Just what to be true.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: SquallLeonhart on September 14, 2019, 07:31:02 AM
I'm not religious, and I have no objection to gambling as a form of entertainment.  I do object when it becomes an addiction, and people are hurt by it.  I don't gamble myself, so I would not advertise a gambling service.

Here in the United states a lot of Muslim Arab immigrants (including some members of my extended family,) run liquor stores even though they don't drink.  It seems hypocritical to me, but who am I to judge?  Promoting gambling seems like the same thing to me.  If those selling alcohol can reconcile their religious beliefs with their business, I don't see why one promoting gambling can't do the same.

But since you brought up the concern, it seems like you already have some reservations about doing so.  I'd say talk to other member of your religion whom you respect, your family, friends, and your Imam, and proceed in the way that fits best with your beliefs.
I disagree. A lot of us are promoting gambling sites but we don’t gamble and this does not in any way make us hypocrites in anyway and like you said, we are after the pay, which isn’t a bad thing at all.

You could be working in a Brewery company where they major in alcoholic drink and yet not drink, or are you saying all those who work in banks and persuade people to go into investments actually do have it themselves? They are only doing their job and we cannot question them for not practicing what they preach. Even imams and pastors most times do not do all they preach, maybe everyone in the world is a hypocrite then.

Well. In my opinion, it is left for every individual to do whatever pleases them because at the end of the day, only you knows what is best for you and what hurts most is realizing that even those who set the rules didn’t obey it completely.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: NavI_027 on September 14, 2019, 08:01:08 AM
Then we are all sinners then. Literally everything we do is a gamble of odds, we step out the door knowing we might get struck by lightning. We get on planes knowing they could fall out of the sky etc, most of the things we do are not done out of necessity, but out of want.
Yeah, I agree that we're all sinners. No one is as pure as snow ;D but saying that all we do is a gamble then that was very unreasonable. Of course it's not! The examples you listed is not a form of gamble for me, I prefer calling it fortune. So if you got strucked by lightning from out of nowhere then don't be ashamed of yourself like you lose in a casino because it's not your fault, that is just how your destiny works.
Unless the Quoran or any other religion text specifically prohibits gambling with money, I wouldn't look too much into it.
Indeed. I'm not disregarding the word of God but for me if you really want to rey something then you're free to do it as long as it doesn't violate the laws of human. The constitutional law is the acceptable basis of telling whether our act is good or evil and not those religious manuscripts. Don't worry if you're eager to gamble, just make sure to play with those not having legal problems :).


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Pmalek on September 14, 2019, 08:02:54 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
If you are not allowed to gamble according to Islam I am pretty sure you are not allowed to earn money indirectly by referring people and suggesting that other people should gamble and you earn the commissions.
It is very similar to stealing and buying stolen goods dilemma. That sort of thing doesn't go hand in hand with religion.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Maslate on September 14, 2019, 09:00:03 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
If you are not allowed to gamble according to Islam I am pretty sure you are not allowed to earn money indirectly by referring people and suggesting that other people should gamble and you earn the commissions.
It is very similar to stealing and buying stolen goods dilemma. That sort of thing doesn't go hand in hand with religion.
When it comes to religion, the law should be black and white, otherwise, it will result to division of believers and people might get confused.
This is different from the law sometimes where there is some provision, the law within the religion is different, there's no "ifs', just like going to heaven or going to hell.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: DaveF on September 14, 2019, 03:16:50 PM
Back in the early days of Las Vegas, even running to today Mormons were working everywhere in the casinos.
Dealers, servers, etc.
They really did not gamble or drink. Their religion did not strictly say "No" but it was severely frowned upon.
Since they are a very community based religion, it was kind of a thing, that you didn't because it was frowned upon and you didn't want to look bad.

A quick read here:

https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/question/mormons-gambling/ (https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/question/mormons-gambling/)

-Dave


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on September 14, 2019, 04:45:23 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
It is a sensitive issue, because there are many points of view and it will never be a fully consolidated idea, for believers and atheists, believers rely heavily on what the sacred scriptures say and yes, gambling as it is something which is contemplated in the bible, and I believe that Jesus Christ in his time had a discrepancy because it took people away from true belief, but that was at that time, now I am sure that many believers and followers of the bible are also players and their faith it remains intact, and if you go to the 10 commandments the prohibition of gambling is not contemplated, so that in God's eyes it is not bad.

Atheists ignore almost everything and respect themselves, although there are many who are against gambling, but in the world there are all kinds of people with different tastes, and gambling is just one of the funs that being human can have to: Enjoy, de-stress, make money, all this influences from the point of view that is seen, if you do gambling and see that you do not do evil to anyone, it means that everything is fine.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Mahanton on September 14, 2019, 08:10:45 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
It is a sensitive issue, because there are many points of view and it will never be a fully consolidated idea, for believers and atheists, believers rely heavily on what the sacred scriptures say and yes, gambling as it is something which is contemplated in the bible, and I believe that Jesus Christ in his time had a discrepancy because it took people away from true belief, but that was at that time, now I am sure that many believers and followers of the bible are also players and their faith it remains intact, and if you go to the 10 commandments the prohibition of gambling is not contemplated, so that in God's eyes it is not bad.

Atheists ignore almost everything and respect themselves, although there are many who are against gambling, but in the world there are all kinds of people with different tastes, and gambling is just one of the funs that being human can have to: Enjoy, de-stress, make money, all this influences from the point of view that is seen, if you do gambling and see that you do not do evil to anyone, it means that everything is fine.
You are definitely right into this one which as long we dont do something illegal then i dont see a reason for gambling to be frowned upon but there are people who do heavily
follow up on what they do believe into their religion and theres nothing we can do about it but to respect on what they do believe as long they arent bothering us just like a normal relative will do or our neighbors is trying to stop us on playing then we should respect them though.They had their own beliefs and also ours towards gambling.I cant even think up on how people will enjoy life without some sort of gambling activities in life.It isnt that suggested but coming too serious with our daily routines in life sounds pretty boring.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: virasog on September 15, 2019, 05:28:11 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
If you are not allowed to gamble according to Islam I am pretty sure you are not allowed to earn money indirectly by referring people and suggesting that other people should gamble and you earn the commissions.
It is very similar to stealing and buying stolen goods dilemma. That sort of thing doesn't go hand in hand with religion.
When it comes to religion, the law should be black and white, otherwise, it will result to division of believers and people might get confused.
This is different from the law sometimes where there is some provision, the law within the religion is different, there's no "ifs', just like going to heaven or going to hell.


Many people will suggest that since gambling is not illegal then anythning related to it will also be illegal. I am not fully confident on it and it may very from person to person belief. Also everything cannt be written in black n white in the religion because with the passge of time the the new things do come up. Like there were no social media marketing, at the time the gambling was declared illegal in different religions.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: UmerIdrees on September 15, 2019, 06:05:58 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?
If you are not allowed to gamble according to Islam I am pretty sure you are not allowed to earn money indirectly by referring people and suggesting that other people should gamble and you earn the commissions.
It is very similar to stealing and buying stolen goods dilemma. That sort of thing doesn't go hand in hand with religion.


Considering your example I will like to give you another query.
Interest is also illegal or ban in many religions but the bank still operate in those countries.
So does that mean that people working in the banks their income is also illegal since the banks systems are based on the interest ?



Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Pmalek on September 15, 2019, 07:10:57 AM
Considering your example I will like to give you another query.
Interest is also illegal or ban in many religions but the bank still operate in those countries.
So does that mean that people working in the banks their income is also illegal since the banks systems are based on the interest ?
I really don't know how that is looked upon. In Muslim countries there is something called Islamic Banking. That is a non-interest banking that is based on Sharia Law. Muslims are allowed to work in those types of banks as they can operate freely in Muslim countries.

You can read more about that way of banking here:
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/islamicbanking.asp


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: target on September 15, 2019, 01:48:30 PM
Considering your example I will like to give you another query.
Interest is also illegal or ban in many religions but the bank still operate in those countries.
So does that mean that people working in the banks their income is also illegal since the banks systems are based on the interest ?
I really don't know how that is looked upon. In Muslim countries there is something called Islamic Banking. That is a non-interest banking that is based on Sharia Law. Muslims are allowed to work in those types of banks as they can operate freely in Muslim countries.

You can read more about that way of banking here:
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/islamicbanking.asp

Not familiar about this but looks almost the same actually.  It says they are not allowed to make money out of money but it only look like they are hiding interest to the assets they are buying for the loaner.  They make money our of the assets but still assets value is money, fine line in there but its all there is.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: jrrsparkles on September 15, 2019, 02:19:22 PM
Considering your example I will like to give you another query.
Interest is also illegal or ban in many religions but the bank still operate in those countries.
So does that mean that people working in the banks their income is also illegal since the banks systems are based on the interest ?
I really don't know how that is looked upon. In Muslim countries there is something called Islamic Banking. That is a non-interest banking that is based on Sharia Law. Muslims are allowed to work in those types of banks as they can operate freely in Muslim countries.

You can read more about that way of banking here:
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/islamicbanking.asp

Not familiar about this but looks almost the same actually.  It says they are not allowed to make money out of money but it only look like they are hiding interest to the assets they are buying for the loaner.  They make money our of the assets but still assets value is money, fine line in there but its all there is.
Actually there are banks with no interest schemes but also many countries have traditional banking system where mostly muslim people were working on it so they still enjoying and their government allowed it.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: LogitechMouse on September 15, 2019, 02:53:16 PM
I'm not an Islam and I don't know much about their religion and culture and how they treat gambling.
As a Christian, I can say that it is not prohibited for us to gamble as long as you can control yourself.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: jostorres on September 15, 2019, 05:38:36 PM
A lot of us are promoting gambling sites but we don’t gamble and this does not in any way make us hypocrites in anyway and like you said, we are after the pay, which isn’t a bad thing at all.

You could be working in a Brewery company where they major in alcoholic drink and yet not drink, or are you saying all those who work in banks and persuade people to go into investments actually do have it themselves? They are only doing their job and we cannot question them for not practicing what they preach. Even imams and pastors most times do not do all they preach, maybe everyone in the world is a hypocrite then.

Well. In my opinion, it is left for every individual to do whatever pleases them because at the end of the day, only you knows what is best for you and what hurts most is realizing that even those who set the rules didn’t obey it completely.
I think you should listen to yourself again bro, participating for the money being paid and yet not involved and you are still convinced that you aren’t a hypocrite, well, i know right inside of you, you know what is right but maybe you just don’t want to agree because you are a partaker.

I am not in any way against marketing or promoting gambling by anyone, but in my opinion, I would say that if you are a promoter, then you should also be a gambler and failure to do this makes the person in question and hypocrite. I am a gambler and this is the reason I confidently agree to market any gambling or involve myself with their promotions and moreover, I don’t even something evil about gambling.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: FIFA worldcup on September 15, 2019, 06:10:12 PM
I'm not an Islam and I don't know much about their religion and culture and how they treat gambling.
As a Christian, I can say that it is not prohibited for us to gamble as long as you can control yourself.

I do not understand this as you are saying that in christian gambling is prohibited if you cannot control yourself ?
Is this written somewhere in bible ? I don't think so.  ???


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Ailmand on September 15, 2019, 09:01:36 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

Promoting that is illegal in your religion would also be illegal I think. If you put it in a simple way, in a religious side, if you are promoting something that is taboo in you religion it means you are also entertaining it, so it is clear that your income from promoting gambling is also against your religion.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: michellee on September 16, 2019, 07:41:59 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

Promoting that is illegal in your religion would also be illegal I think. If you put it in a simple way, in a religious side, if you are promoting something that is taboo in you religion it means you are also entertaining it, so it is clear that your income from promoting gambling is also against your religion.

Yeah, you should stay away from promoting gambling because it prohibited in your religion. You can search the other affiliate which is not prohibited. Maybe you can search for the dating affiliate because I heard that is a good way to earn some money from the services. I don't think that you will feel comfortable if it's prohibited because you will feel something wrong with what you did. But that is up to you because we could only advise to you.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Betwrong on September 16, 2019, 08:32:14 AM
~]In Islam, gambling is bad so anything related is considered a sin. Also, include promoting a gambling site because they help the owner and attract the attention of other people (no matter his religion) to make sins (play gambling). It doesn't matter if a Muslim doesn't play but if they promote it is still prohibited in his religion.

It's not that I personally care much about it, but I'm sure there are people who do, and I think you should provide quotes and links when making such statements. Some people earn their bread by promoting gambling sites, and some of them are religious. Who are you to call them sinners?
I'm not a part of Islam people but I have found an article saying that gamblers and those who drink wine are sinners.

“They ask you [Muhammad] concerning wine and gambling. Say: ‘In them is a great sin, and some profit, for men; but the sin is greater than the profit.’… Thus does Allah Make clear to you His Signs, in order that you may consider” (Quran 2:219).
Quote
“O you who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, dedication of stones, and divination by arrows, are an abomination of Satan's handwork. Eschew such abomination, that you may prosper” (Quran 5:90).
~

Okay, but what about promoting a gambling site or making wine, or working in a wine store to earn your daily bread? This is what this topic all about. Can someone provide quotes from  Quran, Bible or any other religious book which at least can be interpreted to mean that promoting gambling site is a sin?


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Pmalek on September 16, 2019, 12:47:48 PM
Okay, but what about promoting a gambling site or making wine, or working in a wine store to earn your daily bread? This is what this topic all about. Can someone provide quotes from  Quran, Bible or any other religious book which at least can be interpreted to mean that promoting gambling site is a sin?
Muslims, just like Jewish people, are not allowed to eat pork but it is also considered a sin to sell pork to both Muslims and non-Muslims.

Quote
...whatever we are forbidden to eat or make use of, we are also forbidden to sell, and it is not permissible to consume its price
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/40651/is-it-permissible-to-sell-haraam-things-like-pork-to-non-muslims

This would mean that if you are not allowed to eat or use something you are also not allowed to sell it or use the profits of that trade for anything else.

The above source also mentions:
Quote
“When Allah forbids a thing, He (also) forbids its price.”
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/40651/is-it-permissible-to-sell-haraam-things-like-pork-to-non-muslims

It would be safe to conclude that the same rules apply for gambling, drug use or anything else that is forbidden by that religion.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: target on September 16, 2019, 12:54:16 PM
~]In Islam, gambling is bad so anything related is considered a sin. Also, include promoting a gambling site because they help the owner and attract the attention of other people (no matter his religion) to make sins (play gambling). It doesn't matter if a Muslim doesn't play but if they promote it is still prohibited in his religion.

It's not that I personally care much about it, but I'm sure there are people who do, and I think you should provide quotes and links when making such statements. Some people earn their bread by promoting gambling sites, and some of them are religious. Who are you to call them sinners?
I'm not a part of Islam people but I have found an article saying that gamblers and those who drink wine are sinners.

“They ask you [Muhammad] concerning wine and gambling. Say: ‘In them is a great sin, and some profit, for men; but the sin is greater than the profit.’… Thus does Allah Make clear to you His Signs, in order that you may consider” (Quran 2:219).
Quote
“O you who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, dedication of stones, and divination by arrows, are an abomination of Satan's handwork. Eschew such abomination, that you may prosper” (Quran 5:90).
~

Okay, but what about promoting a gambling site or making wine, or working in a wine store to earn your daily bread? This is what this topic all about. Can someone provide quotes from  Quran, Bible or any other religious book which at least can be interpreted to mean that promoting gambling site is a sin?

You can consider it a vague law when it says you can not make money out of money. And so if you make money out of your assets which were bought by your money, its assumed its allowed. It may also be look at this way when it comes to promoting gambling sites since you are not gambling at all. You are only promoting.



Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: SquallLeonhart on September 16, 2019, 02:52:36 PM
It is a sensitive issue, because there are many points of view and it will never be a fully consolidated idea, for believers and atheists, believers rely heavily on what the sacred scriptures say and yes, gambling as it is something which is contemplated in the bible, and I believe that Jesus Christ in his time had a discrepancy because it took people away from true belief, but that was at that time, now I am sure that many believers and followers of the bible are also players and their faith it remains intact, and if you go to the 10 commandments the prohibition of gambling is not contemplated, so that in God's eyes it is not bad.

Atheists ignore almost everything and respect themselves, although there are many who are against gambling, but in the world there are all kinds of people with different tastes, and gambling is just one of the funs that being human can have to: Enjoy, de-stress, make money, all this influences from the point of view that is seen, if you do gambling and see that you do not do evil to anyone, it means that everything is fine.
You are definitely right into this one which as long we dont do something illegal then i dont see a reason for gambling to be frowned upon but there are people who do heavily
follow up on what they do believe into their religion and theres nothing we can do about it but to respect on what they do believe as long they arent bothering us just like a normal relative will do or our neighbors is trying to stop us on playing then we should respect them though.They had their own beliefs and also ours towards gambling.I cant even think up on how people will enjoy life without some sort of gambling activities in life.It isnt that suggested but coming too serious with our daily routines in life sounds pretty boring.
I don’t get it bro, how do you mean that life would be boring without gambling, I believe before gambling began, a lot of people have been having fun, so what is spectacular about gambling I must ask. I have not gambled in the past 4 years and I don’t even miss it a bit because I am only trying to heal from all the losses I made from gambling.

If any religion or culture is against gambling, I think it is better to find out what they discovered about it that made them see it so, I do not have any religion that tell me not to do it, if I had, I would probably consider the reasons and I may not have been in the mess I found myself from gambling. In a nut shell, don’t participate in any kind of gambling, ether promotions or marketing if it is against your belief.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: DarkDays on September 16, 2019, 08:07:23 PM

I don’t get it bro, how do you mean that life would be boring without gambling, I believe before gambling began, a lot of people have been having fun, so what is spectacular about gambling I must ask. I have not gambled in the past 4 years and I don’t even miss it a bit because I am only trying to heal from all the losses I made from gambling.

If any religion or culture is against gambling, I think it is better to find out what they discovered about it that made them see it so, I do not have any religion that tell me not to do it, if I had, I would probably consider the reasons and I may not have been in the mess I found myself from gambling. In a nut shell, don’t participate in any kind of gambling, ether promotions or marketing if it is against your belief.

True, you can certainly lead a fulfilling life without gambling. Gambling shouldn't be used as a means to improve your life, but rather a way to spend time enjoyably. A lot of people make the fatal flaw of continuing to gamble even when they really cannot afford to be taking the risks.

That being said, I really doubt the omnipotent creator of the universe, the being that literally wove time and space together as one, gives the SLIGHTEST damn about what you do with your money.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: kawetsriyanto on September 16, 2019, 11:07:17 PM
In any form but it connected in gambling I believe is also considered as gamblingmoney,because the one you advertise will surely take the your payments from gambling so it’s a sinful money if you are a Muslim


This base on my opinion as I a man not a Muslim but from what my understanding is..so what I’m surely knew here is OP is affected on his spiritual laws

Your statement is interesting enough. It seems you have a deep understanding both from gambling and religion point of view.

Actually, it is still debatable about where the payments are taken for the rewards of advertises.
For new gambling sites, I am not sure they pay us from the gambling activities on those sites because they are still new and just launched.
Anyway, for me, we don't advertise gambling but just promote the platform.  ;D


Note :
But if you are still not sure about promoting a gambling site, then you are better to leave it. Islam learns us to leave doubtful things.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Betwrong on September 17, 2019, 01:34:19 PM
Okay, but what about promoting a gambling site or making wine, or working in a wine store to earn your daily bread? This is what this topic all about. Can someone provide quotes from  Quran, Bible or any other religious book which at least can be interpreted to mean that promoting gambling site is a sin?
Muslims, just like Jewish people, are not allowed to eat pork but it is also considered a sin to sell pork to both Muslims and non-Muslims.

Quote
...whatever we are forbidden to eat or make use of, we are also forbidden to sell, and it is not permissible to consume its price
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/40651/is-it-permissible-to-sell-haraam-things-like-pork-to-non-muslims

This would mean that if you are not allowed to eat or use something you are also not allowed to sell it or use the profits of that trade for anything else.

The above source also mentions:
Quote
“When Allah forbids a thing, He (also) forbids its price.”
https://islamqa.info/en/answers/40651/is-it-permissible-to-sell-haraam-things-like-pork-to-non-muslims

It would be safe to conclude that the same rules apply for gambling, drug use or anything else that is forbidden by that religion.

Great research! Thank you!

When Allah forbids a thing, He also forbids its price”, huh?

Then it looks like indeed promoting a gambling site is forbidden by Sharia.

But I want to say that that only proves once again the incompatibility of old religions with modern day life. If you work as a taxi driver, a pilot, a train driver or a captain of a passenger ship, and you say to someone "Sorry, I can't transport you because you have alcohol with you.", you will be fired immediately. Or, if you are an electrician and you are called to a restaurant to fix something for them, you can't accept the payment, if they sell alcohol and/or pork because "He also forbids its price". WTF?



Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: narcopop on September 17, 2019, 01:49:26 PM
https://i.imgur.com/KW7FCEx.png

The really interesting thing from Uncle Google.

Even if you're looking for typical sins of gambling, then the search engine thinks that you're looking for an answer to the eternal question. So, I think that not only you guys have a similar problem. But from my perspective, it's all up to the person itself. It's not like with killing, stealing or lying, it's much more complex and it depends on how specific man handles that thing. It's easy to generalize but it's not so easy to think about other perspectives.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: peter0425 on September 17, 2019, 01:52:03 PM
If it's eligal then its prohibited averywhere even in social media there's no one is exempted on it.  Wherein automatic if someone caught you cheating you will be imprison because it's a sin even you advert it only you have no skip. . Actually that's the reason why there are some ppl using vpn but unfortunately they fail because of some reason.  So i suggest don't cheat if you want to avoid problems.. Lol
Maybe you’re right on this mate ,like whenever the company you are representing paying you from the earning of the business it’s also sinful money
So when you accept that then you become sinful as well
Better stay away from those businesses because there are lots of company that will pay you from no gambling money


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: peter0425 on September 17, 2019, 02:18:20 PM


The really interesting thing from Uncle Google.

Even if you're looking for typical sins of gambling, then the search engine thinks that you're looking for an answer to the eternal question. So, I think that not only you guys have a similar problem. But from my perspective, it's all up to the person itself. It's not like with killing, stealing or lying, it's much more complex and it depends on how specific man handles that thing. It's easy to generalize but it's not so easy to think about other perspectives.
It depends on what kind of person we are and from what our beliefs came from

If we stands only for our self then nothing’s going to be a sin because we will justify our deeds

But if we are in a religion and a believer then things like this will surely be sinful to us.so basically right it’s about perspective as well


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: btc78 on September 17, 2019, 04:04:40 PM
In any form but it connected in gambling I believe is also considered as gamblingmoney,because the one you advertise will surely take the your payments from gambling so it’s a sinful money if you are a Muslim


This base on my opinion as I a man not a Muslim but from what my understanding is..so what I’m surely knew here is OP is affected on his spiritual laws

Your statement is interesting enough. It seems you have a deep understanding both from gambling and religion point of view.

Actually, it is still debatable about where the payments are taken for the rewards of advertises.
For new gambling sites, I am not sure they pay us from the gambling activities on those sites because they are still new and just launched.
Anyway, for me, we don't advertise gambling but just promote the platform.  ;D
If the company is just starting then for sure the payments would be from their own pocket or from some investors who believes in their project but as time passed and they are starting to gain profit then it will be change of setting and the payments will continue from the Gambling
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Note :
But if you are still not sure about promoting a gambling site, then you are better to leave it. Islam learns us to leave doubtful things.
That’s it mate if you feel somethings wrong then it’s your conscience and love of religion is telling you to stop and find other ways of profiteering


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: lixer on September 17, 2019, 04:09:18 PM
In my opinion, gambling is not prohibited as long as gambling is not controlling you but you are the one in control over your bets and decisions, It will surely depend on one's perspective and interpretation, So when the law prohibited gambling then that will be by the law or in the government's rules against gambling, Well the bible doesn't directly addressing gambling and a means of negative discussion but if you are making gambling as your main and are only targeting the money you can get from it then that would be a sin in GOD's perspective.
I am only hearing about gambling prohibition in some religious sector for the first time and I am indeed short of words. First of all, I do not understand the reason why it is considered a taboo and secondly I am more surprised because I have friends that are core and strong Muslim believers but they are serious gamblers. Is it that they are not aware of this or they choose not to obey such rubbish?

If I was a Muslim, or if I had a religion that is also not in support of gambling, I would definitely not stick by the rules and I will try to dig deep to understand the reason behind the prohibition, will the religious leaders put their jobless members on salary? Now I understand why my Muslim friends do not give a damn about the policy.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: iamsheikhadil on September 17, 2019, 06:11:49 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I am not Muslim but I have seen someone who I know refusing to promote sites related with lending and gambling site. Legal and things you don't do just because your religion prohibits are different.

I've seen some friends on mine who are not allowed to as said in religion but still they do. Its all about your views actually and how much you believe in it.



Still I want to know why gambling and lending is considered as sin? I mean reasoning behind it. Hope I am asking it correctly.

That's true in cases where there's separation of state and church :) however, in religious countries like Saudi, it is illegal to use money earnt from gambling it by promoting gambling I think :)


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Pmalek on September 17, 2019, 07:48:13 PM
But I want to say that that only proves once again the incompatibility of old religions with modern day life.
I think being religious in moderation is what all religious individuals should aim for. Those examples you mentioned are quite extreme and would limit the possibilities and the life of someone trying to implement and respect all that.
Not wanting to gamble because of religious views is acceptable. Not wanting to drive someone in your cab because he has a bottle of wine with him is too much and shouldn't be acceptable. 


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: darewaller on September 18, 2019, 09:39:53 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I can speak of my religion which is Christianity, I am not a hardcore Christian but as long as I am taking care of my family and not promoting gambling as something that will make you rich, which is deception.
As long as you promote gambling in a good and positive way like spending spare money and not indulging so much, there is no issue at all if you play gambling or promote it.
I think this is what makes Christianity different from other religion. Most times it’s the intent of the heart that is put into consideration not just the action. Gambling on its own is not a sin but what is important to be looked at is how it is been played.

If I am in any position to influence for a gambling site, as much as I as want the money, I would be honest to tell players to be careful never to get addicted to the game even though I know this is where most gambling sites make more money, it’s always their happiness to get a player addicted to the site because the gambler would have finished all his money before he gets back his senses.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Naida_BR on September 18, 2019, 03:01:12 PM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I think that it is also illegal to promote online gambling casinos when your religion do not allow you gamble.
It is like you don't do drugs but you sell them... Right?


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: SirLancelot on September 20, 2019, 07:58:19 PM
I am not Muslim but I have seen someone who I know refusing to promote sites related with lending and gambling site. Legal and things you don't do just because your religion prohibits are different.

I've seen some friends on mine who are not allowed to as said in religion but still they do. Its all about your views actually and how much you believe in it.
In my opinion, those who reject campaigns that is related to gambling because of religious beliefs are not in the need of money or maybe if you check very well they are just extremists. Like you said, which I also agree, there are some gamblers that regarding the religious beliefs will still go ahead to gamble, I have a lot of them and honestly, it depends on their view.

But for me, I do not see any reason that will be explained that will make me follow religion to stop gambling or even promoting gambling activities, when it’s not like I am being paid by the same religion. The sad thing is that the religious leaders are balling in money and making cool cash while setting rules for hungry followers to obey.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Oilacris on September 20, 2019, 08:09:25 PM
I am not Muslim but I have seen someone who I know refusing to promote sites related with lending and gambling site. Legal and things you don't do just because your religion prohibits are different.

I've seen some friends on mine who are not allowed to as said in religion but still they do. Its all about your views actually and how much you believe in it.
In my opinion, those who reject campaigns that is related to gambling because of religious beliefs are not in the need of money or maybe if you check very well they are just extremists. Like you said, which I also agree, there are some gamblers that regarding the religious beliefs will still go ahead to gamble, I have a lot of them and honestly, it depends on their view.

But for me, I do not see any reason that will be explained that will make me follow religion to stop gambling or even promoting gambling activities, when it’s not like I am being paid by the same religion. The sad thing is that the religious leaders are balling in money and making cool cash while setting rules for hungry followers to obey.
I do somewhat able to get on what kind of religion you are talking into ;D when talking about balling money and making some cool cash.

I don't even see the reason why we do treat up gambling this way on religious aspect yet even on Bible it never been prohibited.Well,nothing is similar when it comes to
beliefs but on this kind of way in terms of gambling then its way too exaggerated.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: RealMalatesta on September 21, 2019, 07:26:00 PM
In my opinion, those who reject campaigns that is related to gambling because of religious beliefs are not in the need of money or maybe if you check very well they are just extremists. Like you said, which I also agree, there are some gamblers that regarding the religious beliefs will still go ahead to gamble, I have a lot of them and honestly, it depends on their view.

But for me, I do not see any reason that will be explained that will make me follow religion to stop gambling or even promoting gambling activities, when it’s not like I am being paid by the same religion. The sad thing is that the religious leaders are balling in money and making cool cash while setting rules for hungry followers to obey.
It might sound funny but you are saying the truth and I align with your point of view. It is of no importance to hold on to the belief of someone who’s already made, I am sure even God doesn't take this things serious as much as the religious leaders do. This is just gambling for crying out loud.  It's not stealing or killing so definitely not a great offence.

I am so happy with myself that I am not one of those people that follow religion, I do what makes me happy and that is it. I don't really know what my faith says about gambling but I know a lot of us don't participate in gambling, one thing I am yet to understand is if they it is because of cultural belief or religion but whatever it is none of my concern.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: noormcs5 on September 22, 2019, 04:42:36 PM
Then it looks like indeed promoting a gambling site is forbidden by Sharia.

But I want to say that that only proves once again the incompatibility of old religions with modern day life. If you work as a taxi driver, a pilot, a train driver or a captain of a passenger ship, and you say to someone "Sorry, I can't transport you because you have alcohol with you.", you will be fired immediately. Or, if you are an electrician and you are called to a restaurant to fix something for them, you can't accept the payment, if they sell alcohol and/or pork because "He also forbids its price". WTF?



Why do want to make things complicated here. If we think so deep then there will always be something which will not be allowed and we might end up stuck.
In the above example. the electrician and taxi driver will not be doing the sin because they themselves are not alcoholic and they are not responsible if anyone is selling or drinking alcohol.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: carter34 on September 22, 2019, 06:02:39 PM
But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

The meat that you won't eat, you are not expected to use your mouth to cut it because if you do, it almost like you have tasted it and tasting food is also like haven eaten it  ;D
So religiously, it will be expected that what you are asked not to do, you don't encourage others to do it, you rather admonish them against it.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: carlfebz2 on September 22, 2019, 06:58:58 PM
In my opinion, gambling is not prohibited as long as gambling is not controlling you but you are the one in control over your bets and decisions, It will surely depend on one's perspective and interpretation, So when the law prohibited gambling then that will be by the law or in the government's rules against gambling, Well the bible doesn't directly addressing gambling and a means of negative discussion but if you are making gambling as your main and are only targeting the money you can get from it then that would be a sin in GOD's perspective.
I am only hearing about gambling prohibition in some religious sector for the first time and I am indeed short of words. First of all, I do not understand the reason why it is considered a taboo and secondly I am more surprised because I have friends that are core and strong Muslim believers but they are serious gamblers. Is it that they are not aware of this or they choose not to obey such rubbish?

If I was a Muslim, or if I had a religion that is also not in support of gambling, I would definitely not stick by the rules and I will try to dig deep to understand the reason behind the prohibition, will the religious leaders put their jobless members on salary? Now I understand why my Muslim friends do not give a damn about the policy.
We wont know on what are their reasons but as far as i know its totally prohibited and if your friends or the people you do know do play gambling
then they are basically trying to break on what they do believe.We cant really stop people on playing gambling yet we do have our own wills on how
we gonna handle ourselves.Just let them be on what would be their actions and its total rubbish to think on having this kind of restriction yet we arent
doing something bad.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Kasabus on September 23, 2019, 08:46:53 AM
But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

The meat that you won't eat, you are not expected to use your mouth to cut it because if you do, it almost like you have tasted it and tasting food is also like haven eaten it  ;D
So religiously, it will be expected that what you are asked not to do, you don't encourage others to do it, you rather admonish them against it.

You got me thinking a bit, but your explanation is very cool, its like you are throwing some biblical verse that could touch someones heart.
Of course, I agree with you, anything related to gambling is bad, either directly or indirectly, you should stay away from it if you are loyal with your faith in your God.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: audaciousbeing on September 23, 2019, 10:49:32 AM
As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?


Just to add to this, its a conflicting thing though. I have seen people claim they cannot wear the signature of a gambling site whether due to religious or moral beliefs but won't mind any other services which could be an ICO, that could eventually scam people of their resources or maybe a mixing site which several other people have reservations about the kind of services being offered and what they are likely to be exposed to,.

I think the interpretation of whether something is legal, illegal moral or immoral, is a personal thing and people should be allowed to make their decisions and be respected for it so far they are not inflicting any injury on anybody for holding such belief.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: robelneo on September 23, 2019, 11:36:26 AM
In any form but it connected in gambling I believe is also considered as gamblingmoney,because the one you advertise will surely take the your payments from gambling so it’s a sinful money if you are a Muslim


This base on my opinion as I a man not a Muslim but from what my understanding is..so what I’m surely knew here is OP is affected on his spiritual laws

Your statement is interesting enough. It seems you have a deep understanding both from gambling and religion point of view.

Actually, it is still debatable about where the payments are taken for the rewards of advertises.
For new gambling sites, I am not sure they pay us from the gambling activities on those sites because they are still new and just launched.
Anyway, for me, we don't advertise gambling but just promote the platform.  ;D


Note :
But if you are still not sure about promoting a gambling site, then you are better to leave it. Islam learns us to leave doubtful things.

I respect our Muslim brothers for their belief, I admire them for they have such this as halal, but we from other religion like Catholic are taking a liberal stance now, and we are more logical because in the first place if you are donating from a church and they do no know who you are because they allow anonymous donation, they can take that donation.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: swogerino on September 23, 2019, 01:50:36 PM
In any form but it connected in gambling I believe is also considered as gamblingmoney,because the one you advertise will surely take the your payments from gambling so it’s a sinful money if you are a Muslim


This base on my opinion as I a man not a Muslim but from what my understanding is..so what I’m surely knew here is OP is affected on his spiritual laws

Your statement is interesting enough. It seems you have a deep understanding both from gambling and religion point of view.

Actually, it is still debatable about where the payments are taken for the rewards of advertises.
For new gambling sites, I am not sure they pay us from the gambling activities on those sites because they are still new and just launched.
Anyway, for me, we don't advertise gambling but just promote the platform.  ;D


Note :
But if you are still not sure about promoting a gambling site, then you are better to leave it. Islam learns us to leave doubtful things.

I respect our Muslim brothers for their belief, I admire them for they have such this as halal, but we from other religion like Catholic are taking a liberal stance now, and we are more logical because in the first place if you are donating from a church and they do no know who you are because they allow anonymous donation, they can take that donation.

We are in a time where in the West gambling marketing doesn’t care about religion at all and the adverts on Tv and other media are all over in any time of the day.

There is a different stance on East where this is strictly prohibited because the religion governs there more than it does in the West.Also the governments there keep a stricter eye on their citizens.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: Golftech on September 23, 2019, 03:29:42 PM
But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

The meat that you won't eat, you are not expected to use your mouth to cut it because if you do, it almost like you have tasted it and tasting food is also like haven eaten it  ;D
So religiously, it will be expected that what you are asked not to do, you don't encourage others to do it, you rather admonish them against it.

You got me thinking a bit, but your explanation is very cool, its like you are throwing some biblical verse that could touch someones heart.
Of course, I agree with you, anything related to gambling is bad, either directly or indirectly, you should stay away from it if you are loyal with your faith in your God.
Religiously thinking, your point is being recognized as it's part of your beliefs and anything that will be related with such activities will be incorporated
with your act. All people have different views, there are factors and influences that covers everyone's mindset regarding to this matter.

The community you belong has the greater part of your decision-making from any stand that you will be taking about this concern.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: livingfree on September 24, 2019, 08:23:03 AM
I respect our Muslim brothers for their belief, I admire them for they have such this as halal, but we from other religion like Catholic are taking a liberal stance now, and we are more logical because in the first place if you are donating from a church and they do no know who you are because they allow anonymous donation, they can take that donation.
I am also Muslim and yes in my religion some state used to think this way, people do not like those who gamble as it is consider to be haram by them. I think one should not judge other people because everybody has its own business either they gamble or not, and its very good if people donate their in charity we should encourage these people.
I think the religious rules and beliefs of our Muslim brothers are much stricter than any other religion. And as you said gambling is prohibited in you guys. But you have the point about not judging others.

As for the donation, I understand that there are points that sometimes they are questioning the source of it. And this depends on the receiver if they would like to know the origin of it whether it came from gambling or personal pocket.


Title: Re: Gambling Marketing And Religion
Post by: darewaller on September 24, 2019, 07:59:15 PM
Religiously thinking, your point is being recognized as it's part of your beliefs and anything that will be related with such activities will be incorporated
with your act. All people have different views, there are factors and influences that covers everyone's mindset regarding to this matter.

The community you belong has the greater part of your decision-making from any stand that you will be taking about this concern.
I am of the opinion that gambling should be eradicated, and  I never knew it was against my religion before I made up my mind not to be a part of it because of what I had seen it do to people. I knew a man that was very rich and later had nothing because he gambled with everything he had. Such game should be considered destructive because it doesn't mean well for it's partakers.  And if your religion is asking you not to partake in marketing or promoting it, then I think they mean well.

I never knew gambling was against my religion because I saw many people in the same faith with me who gambled and saw nothing wrong with it but I never did because I have seen gambling bring nonentity out of a great personality. That was enough reason for me to declare it forbidden.