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September 17, 2019, 04:04:40 PM
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In any form but it connected in gambling I believe is also considered as gamblingmoney,because the one you advertise will surely take the your payments from gambling so it’s a sinful money if you are a Muslim


This base on my opinion as I a man not a Muslim but from what my understanding is..so what I’m surely knew here is OP is affected on his spiritual laws

Your statement is interesting enough. It seems you have a deep understanding both from gambling and religion point of view.

Actually, it is still debatable about where the payments are taken for the rewards of advertises.
For new gambling sites, I am not sure they pay us from the gambling activities on those sites because they are still new and just launched.
Anyway, for me, we don't advertise gambling but just promote the platform.  Grin
If the company is just starting then for sure the payments would be from their own pocket or from some investors who believes in their project but as time passed and they are starting to gain profit then it will be change of setting and the payments will continue from the Gambling
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But if you are still not sure about promoting a gambling site, then you are better to leave it. Islam learns us to leave doubtful things.
That’s it mate if you feel somethings wrong then it’s your conscience and love of religion is telling you to stop and find other ways of profiteering

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September 17, 2019, 04:09:18 PM
Last edit: September 18, 2019, 09:37:17 AM by lixer
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In my opinion, gambling is not prohibited as long as gambling is not controlling you but you are the one in control over your bets and decisions, It will surely depend on one's perspective and interpretation, So when the law prohibited gambling then that will be by the law or in the government's rules against gambling, Well the bible doesn't directly addressing gambling and a means of negative discussion but if you are making gambling as your main and are only targeting the money you can get from it then that would be a sin in GOD's perspective.
I am only hearing about gambling prohibition in some religious sector for the first time and I am indeed short of words. First of all, I do not understand the reason why it is considered a taboo and secondly I am more surprised because I have friends that are core and strong Muslim believers but they are serious gamblers. Is it that they are not aware of this or they choose not to obey such rubbish?

If I was a Muslim, or if I had a religion that is also not in support of gambling, I would definitely not stick by the rules and I will try to dig deep to understand the reason behind the prohibition, will the religious leaders put their jobless members on salary? Now I understand why my Muslim friends do not give a damn about the policy.

 
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September 17, 2019, 06:11:49 PM
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As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I am not Muslim but I have seen someone who I know refusing to promote sites related with lending and gambling site. Legal and things you don't do just because your religion prohibits are different.

I've seen some friends on mine who are not allowed to as said in religion but still they do. Its all about your views actually and how much you believe in it.



Still I want to know why gambling and lending is considered as sin? I mean reasoning behind it. Hope I am asking it correctly.

That's true in cases where there's separation of state and church Smiley however, in religious countries like Saudi, it is illegal to use money earnt from gambling it by promoting gambling I think Smiley

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September 17, 2019, 07:48:13 PM
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But I want to say that that only proves once again the incompatibility of old religions with modern day life.
I think being religious in moderation is what all religious individuals should aim for. Those examples you mentioned are quite extreme and would limit the possibilities and the life of someone trying to implement and respect all that.
Not wanting to gamble because of religious views is acceptable. Not wanting to drive someone in your cab because he has a bottle of wine with him is too much and shouldn't be acceptable. 

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September 18, 2019, 09:39:53 AM
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As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I can speak of my religion which is Christianity, I am not a hardcore Christian but as long as I am taking care of my family and not promoting gambling as something that will make you rich, which is deception.
As long as you promote gambling in a good and positive way like spending spare money and not indulging so much, there is no issue at all if you play gambling or promote it.
I think this is what makes Christianity different from other religion. Most times it’s the intent of the heart that is put into consideration not just the action. Gambling on its own is not a sin but what is important to be looked at is how it is been played.

If I am in any position to influence for a gambling site, as much as I as want the money, I would be honest to tell players to be careful never to get addicted to the game even though I know this is where most gambling sites make more money, it’s always their happiness to get a player addicted to the site because the gambler would have finished all his money before he gets back his senses.

 
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September 18, 2019, 03:01:12 PM
 #146

As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

I think that it is also illegal to promote online gambling casinos when your religion do not allow you gamble.
It is like you don't do drugs but you sell them... Right?

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September 20, 2019, 07:58:19 PM
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I am not Muslim but I have seen someone who I know refusing to promote sites related with lending and gambling site. Legal and things you don't do just because your religion prohibits are different.

I've seen some friends on mine who are not allowed to as said in religion but still they do. Its all about your views actually and how much you believe in it.
In my opinion, those who reject campaigns that is related to gambling because of religious beliefs are not in the need of money or maybe if you check very well they are just extremists. Like you said, which I also agree, there are some gamblers that regarding the religious beliefs will still go ahead to gamble, I have a lot of them and honestly, it depends on their view.

But for me, I do not see any reason that will be explained that will make me follow religion to stop gambling or even promoting gambling activities, when it’s not like I am being paid by the same religion. The sad thing is that the religious leaders are balling in money and making cool cash while setting rules for hungry followers to obey.

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September 20, 2019, 08:09:25 PM
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I am not Muslim but I have seen someone who I know refusing to promote sites related with lending and gambling site. Legal and things you don't do just because your religion prohibits are different.

I've seen some friends on mine who are not allowed to as said in religion but still they do. Its all about your views actually and how much you believe in it.
In my opinion, those who reject campaigns that is related to gambling because of religious beliefs are not in the need of money or maybe if you check very well they are just extremists. Like you said, which I also agree, there are some gamblers that regarding the religious beliefs will still go ahead to gamble, I have a lot of them and honestly, it depends on their view.

But for me, I do not see any reason that will be explained that will make me follow religion to stop gambling or even promoting gambling activities, when it’s not like I am being paid by the same religion. The sad thing is that the religious leaders are balling in money and making cool cash while setting rules for hungry followers to obey.
I do somewhat able to get on what kind of religion you are talking into Grin when talking about balling money and making some cool cash.

I don't even see the reason why we do treat up gambling this way on religious aspect yet even on Bible it never been prohibited.Well,nothing is similar when it comes to
beliefs but on this kind of way in terms of gambling then its way too exaggerated.

 
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September 21, 2019, 07:26:00 PM
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In my opinion, those who reject campaigns that is related to gambling because of religious beliefs are not in the need of money or maybe if you check very well they are just extremists. Like you said, which I also agree, there are some gamblers that regarding the religious beliefs will still go ahead to gamble, I have a lot of them and honestly, it depends on their view.

But for me, I do not see any reason that will be explained that will make me follow religion to stop gambling or even promoting gambling activities, when it’s not like I am being paid by the same religion. The sad thing is that the religious leaders are balling in money and making cool cash while setting rules for hungry followers to obey.
It might sound funny but you are saying the truth and I align with your point of view. It is of no importance to hold on to the belief of someone who’s already made, I am sure even God doesn't take this things serious as much as the religious leaders do. This is just gambling for crying out loud.  It's not stealing or killing so definitely not a great offence.

I am so happy with myself that I am not one of those people that follow religion, I do what makes me happy and that is it. I don't really know what my faith says about gambling but I know a lot of us don't participate in gambling, one thing I am yet to understand is if they it is because of cultural belief or religion but whatever it is none of my concern.

 
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September 22, 2019, 04:42:36 PM
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Then it looks like indeed promoting a gambling site is forbidden by Sharia.

But I want to say that that only proves once again the incompatibility of old religions with modern day life. If you work as a taxi driver, a pilot, a train driver or a captain of a passenger ship, and you say to someone "Sorry, I can't transport you because you have alcohol with you.", you will be fired immediately. Or, if you are an electrician and you are called to a restaurant to fix something for them, you can't accept the payment, if they sell alcohol and/or pork because "He also forbids its price". WTF?



Why do want to make things complicated here. If we think so deep then there will always be something which will not be allowed and we might end up stuck.
In the above example. the electrician and taxi driver will not be doing the sin because they themselves are not alcoholic and they are not responsible if anyone is selling or drinking alcohol.



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But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

The meat that you won't eat, you are not expected to use your mouth to cut it because if you do, it almost like you have tasted it and tasting food is also like haven eaten it  Grin
So religiously, it will be expected that what you are asked not to do, you don't encourage others to do it, you rather admonish them against it.

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September 22, 2019, 06:58:58 PM
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In my opinion, gambling is not prohibited as long as gambling is not controlling you but you are the one in control over your bets and decisions, It will surely depend on one's perspective and interpretation, So when the law prohibited gambling then that will be by the law or in the government's rules against gambling, Well the bible doesn't directly addressing gambling and a means of negative discussion but if you are making gambling as your main and are only targeting the money you can get from it then that would be a sin in GOD's perspective.
I am only hearing about gambling prohibition in some religious sector for the first time and I am indeed short of words. First of all, I do not understand the reason why it is considered a taboo and secondly I am more surprised because I have friends that are core and strong Muslim believers but they are serious gamblers. Is it that they are not aware of this or they choose not to obey such rubbish?

If I was a Muslim, or if I had a religion that is also not in support of gambling, I would definitely not stick by the rules and I will try to dig deep to understand the reason behind the prohibition, will the religious leaders put their jobless members on salary? Now I understand why my Muslim friends do not give a damn about the policy.
We wont know on what are their reasons but as far as i know its totally prohibited and if your friends or the people you do know do play gambling
then they are basically trying to break on what they do believe.We cant really stop people on playing gambling yet we do have our own wills on how
we gonna handle ourselves.Just let them be on what would be their actions and its total rubbish to think on having this kind of restriction yet we arent
doing something bad.

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September 23, 2019, 08:46:53 AM
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But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

The meat that you won't eat, you are not expected to use your mouth to cut it because if you do, it almost like you have tasted it and tasting food is also like haven eaten it  Grin
So religiously, it will be expected that what you are asked not to do, you don't encourage others to do it, you rather admonish them against it.

You got me thinking a bit, but your explanation is very cool, its like you are throwing some biblical verse that could touch someones heart.
Of course, I agree with you, anything related to gambling is bad, either directly or indirectly, you should stay away from it if you are loyal with your faith in your God.




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September 23, 2019, 10:49:32 AM
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As we know that Gambling is prohibited in certain religions including Islam. If anyone does it, the earned money is not legal and is considered Sin.

But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?


Just to add to this, its a conflicting thing though. I have seen people claim they cannot wear the signature of a gambling site whether due to religious or moral beliefs but won't mind any other services which could be an ICO, that could eventually scam people of their resources or maybe a mixing site which several other people have reservations about the kind of services being offered and what they are likely to be exposed to,.

I think the interpretation of whether something is legal, illegal moral or immoral, is a personal thing and people should be allowed to make their decisions and be respected for it so far they are not inflicting any injury on anybody for holding such belief.

 
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September 23, 2019, 11:36:26 AM
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In any form but it connected in gambling I believe is also considered as gamblingmoney,because the one you advertise will surely take the your payments from gambling so it’s a sinful money if you are a Muslim


This base on my opinion as I a man not a Muslim but from what my understanding is..so what I’m surely knew here is OP is affected on his spiritual laws

Your statement is interesting enough. It seems you have a deep understanding both from gambling and religion point of view.

Actually, it is still debatable about where the payments are taken for the rewards of advertises.
For new gambling sites, I am not sure they pay us from the gambling activities on those sites because they are still new and just launched.
Anyway, for me, we don't advertise gambling but just promote the platform.  Grin


Note :
But if you are still not sure about promoting a gambling site, then you are better to leave it. Islam learns us to leave doubtful things.

I respect our Muslim brothers for their belief, I admire them for they have such this as halal, but we from other religion like Catholic are taking a liberal stance now, and we are more logical because in the first place if you are donating from a church and they do no know who you are because they allow anonymous donation, they can take that donation.

 
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September 23, 2019, 01:50:36 PM
 #156

In any form but it connected in gambling I believe is also considered as gamblingmoney,because the one you advertise will surely take the your payments from gambling so it’s a sinful money if you are a Muslim


This base on my opinion as I a man not a Muslim but from what my understanding is..so what I’m surely knew here is OP is affected on his spiritual laws

Your statement is interesting enough. It seems you have a deep understanding both from gambling and religion point of view.

Actually, it is still debatable about where the payments are taken for the rewards of advertises.
For new gambling sites, I am not sure they pay us from the gambling activities on those sites because they are still new and just launched.
Anyway, for me, we don't advertise gambling but just promote the platform.  Grin


Note :
But if you are still not sure about promoting a gambling site, then you are better to leave it. Islam learns us to leave doubtful things.

I respect our Muslim brothers for their belief, I admire them for they have such this as halal, but we from other religion like Catholic are taking a liberal stance now, and we are more logical because in the first place if you are donating from a church and they do no know who you are because they allow anonymous donation, they can take that donation.

We are in a time where in the West gambling marketing doesn’t care about religion at all and the adverts on Tv and other media are all over in any time of the day.

There is a different stance on East where this is strictly prohibited because the religion governs there more than it does in the West.Also the governments there keep a stricter eye on their citizens.

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September 23, 2019, 03:29:42 PM
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But what if someone is promoting a gambling site on social media etc, will the money earned from it be legal provided he will never directly gamble ?

The meat that you won't eat, you are not expected to use your mouth to cut it because if you do, it almost like you have tasted it and tasting food is also like haven eaten it  Grin
So religiously, it will be expected that what you are asked not to do, you don't encourage others to do it, you rather admonish them against it.

You got me thinking a bit, but your explanation is very cool, its like you are throwing some biblical verse that could touch someones heart.
Of course, I agree with you, anything related to gambling is bad, either directly or indirectly, you should stay away from it if you are loyal with your faith in your God.
Religiously thinking, your point is being recognized as it's part of your beliefs and anything that will be related with such activities will be incorporated
with your act. All people have different views, there are factors and influences that covers everyone's mindset regarding to this matter.

The community you belong has the greater part of your decision-making from any stand that you will be taking about this concern.




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September 24, 2019, 08:23:03 AM
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I respect our Muslim brothers for their belief, I admire them for they have such this as halal, but we from other religion like Catholic are taking a liberal stance now, and we are more logical because in the first place if you are donating from a church and they do no know who you are because they allow anonymous donation, they can take that donation.
I am also Muslim and yes in my religion some state used to think this way, people do not like those who gamble as it is consider to be haram by them. I think one should not judge other people because everybody has its own business either they gamble or not, and its very good if people donate their in charity we should encourage these people.
I think the religious rules and beliefs of our Muslim brothers are much stricter than any other religion. And as you said gambling is prohibited in you guys. But you have the point about not judging others.

As for the donation, I understand that there are points that sometimes they are questioning the source of it. And this depends on the receiver if they would like to know the origin of it whether it came from gambling or personal pocket.

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Religiously thinking, your point is being recognized as it's part of your beliefs and anything that will be related with such activities will be incorporated
with your act. All people have different views, there are factors and influences that covers everyone's mindset regarding to this matter.

The community you belong has the greater part of your decision-making from any stand that you will be taking about this concern.
I am of the opinion that gambling should be eradicated, and  I never knew it was against my religion before I made up my mind not to be a part of it because of what I had seen it do to people. I knew a man that was very rich and later had nothing because he gambled with everything he had. Such game should be considered destructive because it doesn't mean well for it's partakers.  And if your religion is asking you not to partake in marketing or promoting it, then I think they mean well.

I never knew gambling was against my religion because I saw many people in the same faith with me who gambled and saw nothing wrong with it but I never did because I have seen gambling bring nonentity out of a great personality. That was enough reason for me to declare it forbidden.

 
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