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So Everybody talking about Altcoins bleeding and btc dominance....can the top altcoins can just disapere?  In my opinion its a best time to but altcoins coz Panic sellers are selling?

But can Some coins just disapere?  Or Go to Zero?
I Think If market is Red its a Good time to buy!


I Don't undestood that Panic about altcoins!

Altcoins who are on top ranking cant just disappear that easily.They might plummet their prices to the floor but its hard to believe that they would end up into that scenario.
Unless if the masses leave out that coin due to some hack or exploit on the entire platform or serious reasons/issues towards it but if we do talk about that casual market
movement then its hard to make a conclusion. Market do bleeds and this isnt only applicable on altcoins only but also on BTC as well.For now its not really a bad idea to buy up some top altcoins in the market which they are indeed cheaper by now and accumulating while its cheap does matter with your risk management.Just dont go with all in and always mind up on your money management.

Good answer!


But Yes i Think its a Good time to buy Alts
And Even those alts wich might be Not top altcoins but falling a most coz anything whats falling Will atracting investors coz investors Think that they buy with Low Price!


But there is rumours like a altcoins wounth survive...

It's interesting though. The market has experienced various rise anf falls ever since 2017 and the massacre cleared many coins outta the space. Interestingly, it hasn't stopped anyways. I don't think the massacre is over, however I don't believe the top alts are gonna get out of the game. They'll hang around for a while.

I somehow agree that there are some low volume coins or on low ranking does have a low price but searching on which one is just like searching a needle on a haystack.
Only a few is worth for your money and thats why i didnt bother to seek it out but rather i do stick up into those high ranking coins instead.
Dont buy those rumors because no matter how bearish the market will be,its really hard to believe on that Altcoin market would be over.
We do see the bear trend but come to think that there would always be having a market reversal.

There goes a saying, "buy when there's blood in the streets". It means you should be on a buying frenzy when the price of altcoin is very cheap. Why? because once the market recovers you can really make a big profit out of it.


Majority of the altcoins today are down 90% or more. So in a sense they've almost made in to the grave. But then again, this market is very unstable and you can't really say that they are going to disappear unless the price went literally to zero.


There is no panic, 2018 was the panic year, today there is no demand no there are no buyers. But smart investors knows that this is the best chance to stash more altcoins, and we are still in the period of accumulation (even with Bitcoin).

If you're looking for short-term profits, yes, it could be a good time to buy. Otherwise, any price is a good entry-point for those expecting alts to follow the BTC bullish trend that's about to arrive given how we're getting closer to the halvening. Although alts are a huge gamble for a long-term strategy.

A smart investor doesn't fall for the pump and dump schemes, that's for your average joe and wanna-be investors. A smart investor (i'm talking about smart money) would spend days, weeks, even months and so on, looking at what his next investment is going to be with the help of charts, TA, and their own research, they just don't blindly invest in X or Y just because it's gone down in value (unless they have experience in the market, in this case, the cryptocurrency market).

Not sure what you mean by this but alts won't dissapear, at least not the major ones (the vaporware projects and shitcoins will dissapear in due time), they're part of the crypto ecosystem and if one of them goes down (LTC, ETH, etc), it's gonna be a major blow to the entire market, and that's not something you want to see right in the middle of a bull market.

Sure can, if the project was fraud & scammer at that time.

Example like Bitconect a Ponzi project, He on top 20 rank by coinmarketcap with a price around 400$/1B went they announcement close the lending site the prize drop to around 1$ with only 1 day then you can see right now bitconect already disappear.

Some coins can go to the zero value and im feeling no doubt about that because it has proven so many times. Top altcoin will be so difficult to disappear caused by it has big community support and daily user. That becomes a big platform and that means it has been getting adopted by so many people, dude.
But it's quite impossible to see top altcoin disappear. What they are feeling worried to see the price is getting down.

Have it looks impossible cause they would like to sustain the market demand and much improve their services to retain users and investors. Taking care of their project is very important and they look at that scenario since we are in the market competition, and they would like to win against others.
It has to say that those useless/non-sense coins will surely die and can't take away that more coins will be dead soon.

Not all altcoins are bleeding to be honest...
Altcoins like ZrCoin, MicroBitcoin, Maximine Coin, and Karatgold Coin are great examples of altcoins that have shown significant growth over the past 7 days. Given you would have to look past all the smear campaigns that Karatgold coin is involved in.

Have you seen the growth Alpha token has seen? 3000%+ pump in the last few days.

They won't disappear as what you are thinking, they will stay and remain but their trading volume will go lower until they got out of the top 10-100 coins. I've seen popular altcoins before and now they can't be seen on top rank anymore.

As long as the market bleeding, buy. Altcoin and much suitable and better if you're buying bitcoin.

They won't disappear, they'll stay as they've been running on blockchain technology but they can go to zero once no demand and most of the market cap has pulled out.

Yes.

I think you need to calm down for a while and see what will happen in the next hours. And if the altcoin still getting down, then you can prepare yourself to place your buy order at any price, but you need to analyze if the price will be getting down or not. The investors like to buy low price coins, especially if they can see the price is getting dump so hard because they can buy a huge amount.

But I don't think that the altcoin won't survive because we know that in the altcoin, many potential altcoins can survive and it will increase again at the right time. So if you want to buy any altcoin, you need to analyze first, make sure you have money to buy, make your buy order in many prices so you can get a lower rate of the altcoin.

The top altcoin will be fallen if bitcoin price is down, but we don't know how much it will down. But if you cannot be patient, then you can buy the altcoin at any price because it will go up soon.

Bad altcoins will goes to zero, they will become worthless if they can't keep up with the competition.
When BTC dominance is increasing, this is the best time to test if the project can still fight for its value, but some of the projects are already worthless now and given the fact that majority of the altcoins are scam, it's already expected.

Let's consider the current market scenario as a blessing in disguise because without some correction that early, it might become a big bubble and it will be hard for bitcoin and other legit altcoins to recover again.

Altcoins is not Bitcoin, so when we see that it's falling there's no assurance if it will have a comeback.
Bitcoin, on the other hand, has unique traits when it falls it has a higher percentage of rising again.
We can't really compare the two because each one of them came from different pages
the only thing that they have a similarity is they are both cryptocurrency on which bitcoin have
a different level on all of that Altcoin.

when the red market as it is today, maybe the best way is to buy. because right now there are lots of good altcoins that have low prices but with their position have good potential they can give confidence to benefit if altcoin coins get back to their best position

it depends on the coin you want to invest. Because not all coin has the same performance and potential in the market so you better pick an investment wisely. wherein must have a good team behind and etc to assure your not wasting efforts and money on it.   Make some research instead before making a final decision to avoid scam projects.. Because that's the only key to determine how good the project on this current situation of the market. 

The weakness of alts is a consequence of the long bear market from 2018 and into early this year. There is not a lot of confidence in the market, and upward moves are tentative. People are going with BTC because it's safer and less prone to big price drops. If you look at the relationship between BTC strength and alt strength as a proxy for market sentiment, then I think it makes sense.

But sometimes not all reds are good, we need to pick a time and learn about the coin we're planning to buy.
If you notice, you will see Egretia seems to be a scam business. their whole team used some money to pump coins and now they are suffering the consequences, the value of it has been divided by more than 10 and is still continuing with the downtrend.

That Altcoin has a good trading volume, I think it will be hard to return zero. The market is now bleeding, but we also see that Bitcoin does not suffer a sharp decline. The average altcoin already on the Exchange list will slowly grow. I would argue that the Altcoin season will arrive and I will not be selling altcoins.

Perhaps this is a new prediction that by the end of the year and enters the year 2020 the season of Altcoin will return.

That's why they are in top of the food chain, reason being that they have a strong fundamentals from behind. Those coins that die or nearly dying are coins that is being used for P&D schemes.

If devs are not that active for a long time and they got delisted then they can consider be as dead coins already.

Altcoin investors panic because the altcoin market is not recovering. And they just move to bitcoin today because there is where the money right now.

Of course altcoins disappear. They go to zero. And many that are not zero and have not disappeared are only there because some holder makes a fake order, and then takes it himself,,, do not buy altcoins indiscriminately, you will surely regret it when you see the value go to zero. This is not a joke!

They maybe bleeding but they aren't dead yet, there are still a lot of altcoisn that has a potential to rise again, I believe on that as I am still holding an altcoins in my MEW wallet. I don't want to negatively judge the current market situation because based on my experience here, I'm confident that this drought of altcoins will soon be over.

Altcoins bleeding is not something to fear for me, but it's something to celebrate because this could provide a buying opportunity for us.
Believe me, this will be over soon as new surprises are about to come, #HODL.

only those new to the market are talking about "bitcoin dominance" otherwise the rest of us don't care about the market cap. we know that bitcoin has always been dominant even if the total market cap of 3000 shitcoins grew big last year!

any altcoin that is useless can "disappear" easily.
it has happened many times in the past. you can check the snapshots of the market over the past ~8-9 years to see which coins were considered "top" and are not even around anymore.

you would be wrong just like all the ones over the past 2 years saying the same thing were wrong.
the best time to buy altcoins is when they are pumping not when they are dumping (these days).

I do not expect the altseason earlier than in a year. As we can see, interest in altcoins is declining. After BTC shows a long uptrend, investors will begin to return to altcoins. But it will not be soon. Bitcoin is just getting ready for growth, after about halving.

I agree with you on this.  Whenever an altcoin crash, it is always a good idea to buy them but we must consider some things. If ever we are planning to buy an altcoin we must do a thorough research about them, check their development, community,  project team member, the volume, and the demand.


There are lots of altcoin that have gone to zero or worthless.  They maybe once active but eventually several altcoins are delisted from exchanges and since there is no way to trade it, this altcoin die naturally.

Take a breath mate...I know you are in trouble by now, take time to relax sometimes in order to refresh your mind.

Bitcoin still dominating the market and we can't certainly deny it ever since and ain't no wonder that altcoins remain the underdog.
Countless numbers of altcoins are dead by now or we could say no market value. I don't say this is an unusual thing but it becomes usual this time. This is the common result from the greediness of some developers, they only look for their own benefits but not looking for the benefits of the entire crypto space.

In the future a lot of altcoins will going to zero
But, In my opinion the top altcoin will be survive for sure mate,,
Because the top alts already proven  : ;)

Yeah that is true altcoins are bleeding this current days but is doesn't mean the top altcoins possible to become zero value, but noting doubt there have altcoins possible to become zero value for that coins came from the lower list in the coin market cap.

All depends on the quality of the coin. And if the coin is already in the top rankings, I think it will be safe and not return to zero.

Which I have experienced so far that many coins to zero because it has poor quality. These coins are hard to find buyers. If the Altcoin season comes back, all the coins have the potential to grow bigger. So with the dominance of Bitcoin is now better focused on Bitcoin, and hold your Altcoin.

Most of the coins are completely empty, without use, without a sound economic model. In my opinion, many projects are still overestimated. Do you remember who and how much promised during the ICO, and where are their promises, what have they achieved? I think the alt market will explode, but this is pure speculation.
Too few worthwhile projects.
And about the bottom. Often I hear that now it’s exactly the bottom. I heard this in the summer and the spring and the winter and now. The funny thing is that often these are the same people.
Maybe now is a good time to buy, maybe not. I do not know. A lot depends on bitcoin. I am waiting for the alt hype after bitcoin beats ATH.

Top alt coins who have solid foundation and a good finish product to offer will not turned into zero but possible to bounced back and bring a good value for your investment, we often seen up and down movements if you have spare money to invest this timing would be a good time to buy your supported coins.

The idea of buying a coin especially those who are in top is a good thing to do, as you are anticipating that it will rise back eventually after this bear season switch to bull.

No, it won't disappear as long as development is still ongoing
I mean if we were to look at a coin without looking at it's $$(Fiat Value), it doesn't change anything
For example for Ethereum, regardless if Ethereum is $1 or $1,000
As long as you were to run a smart contract function or transfer from wallet to wallet, you would need Ethereum as Gas to perform transaction

Hence, it won't disappear imo
Price might go down lower and lower but it won't disappear

Altcoin is bleeding heavily now because most BTC related instruments like ETFs, Futures are the first to be implemented
Thus, more trust and more confident for people to start investing into BTC than Alts

Altcoin will be staying at the market no matter bitcoin moves because of the altcoin are helping bitcoin to increase and attract more people to come into cryptocurrency. If the altcoin disappears from the market, then I don't think bitcoin will be staying for a long time. Perhaps, some of the weak altcoins will disappear because they can not survive, and they lose their support from the community and the people.

The red candle in the market will be a good time to buy, and I agree that. But you don't have to panic to see the altcoin down because the altcoin will survive from the red candle and it will change to the green candle.

If the majority is following bitcoin, I would be willing to go against that. Because the volatility of Bitcoin is increasingly unpredictable, signal data is no longer available in the past few days.
Therefore, the risk of bitcoin transactions is increasing. I would choose to buy altcoins when its price drops instead of trying to follow the trend.

This is the right time to buy and hodl some meaningful altcoin. The bull run of altcoin is at the corner. Try and invest in good altcoin now to avoid regrets

Just best way is keep  50% your Capital in stable coins and 50% Bitcoins.

This way u Don't lose when btc Go Up or Down.

What makes those coins you see at the top is not because of the position they occupy but because of the solid team that are behind them and it is because they are very active in promoting their products and making sure that it is useful to the public, that is why you could see them there, but there is possibility of them really dropping down if the team become less active.

Aside those ones that are faking volume and probably tipping those who are listing them for the position, other projects can drop, but some of them are also being sustained right now because their investors has already lost parts of their investment to bear market, so they would wait till the market probably recovers, that is why they might not drop to zero now.

What is your basis? It seems like altcoins is still not moving or showing signs of bull run and I hope I'm wrong and it will surprise us.
I agree with buying currently since the value is really cheap but I am not seeing what you are seeing that the bull run is already around the corner.

My basis for my analysis is when BTC will have its ATH, that way, the market will be lively and possibly there might be another FOMO again.
We like that to happen so majority of our altcoins will again live and prosper, for now, it still not moving well, some even worth very cheap already, like my holdings which I hold only 10% to 20% from the original value I bought them.

I agree with your point that the Altcoins market are really crowded now that this altcoin market bleeding will identify those shitcoins that need to disappear in the market so that the remaining will be the stable coins for the few Altcoins investors who are really divided because of so many Altcoins to choose in the market.

I agree if the shitcoin needs to disappear because we cannot make any profit from the coins. Besides that, I think with the disappearing of the shitcoin will make the market looks good and that will attract more people to come, and some of them can recover their losses before. But it will need longer to delist the shitcoin from the market because the developer of the coins don't want to see their coins disappear. I think that will be a refresh from the market and the weak coins will delist.

Kind a agree with the statement. Only the fittest would survive. Most shitcoins should vanish soon. But some with strong team and sound management and development might be still able to weather the bearish trend.
It looks more certain things only can pick up in 2020. Don't really can see much market improvement in 2019.

It is undeniable to panic about altcoin which is indeed no progress making many sell immediately without seeing the price again, resulting in a big influence on that altcoin. many altcoins are lost in the market and are no longer valuable.
for now certain altcoins are still worth investing in, don't try new or unstable ones. You will regret and accept the loss.

Why stable coin mate? And of what benefit is stable coin when it cannot really increase or give profit. If you keep money in stable coin, is more like keeping money in your fiat bank or keeping it In an exchange usd account without changing it, I would rather just put the money in bitcoin than keep in exchange.

People that makes use of stable coins more are trader because they often do make trade and rather than taking it to wallet often and payment fees, they keep in on a stable coin, or the remaining 50 percent can still be kept in some altcoins which I think now that most altcoins have really gone down is the best time for us to invest in them, most especially the altcoins that are on exchanges like binance and are ranked as top coins.

It has long been necessary to understand that many altcoins are unnecessary garbage. And if you have it in your portfolio, then you had to get rid of it for a long time. (This I'm talking about frank shitcoins). But there are also very active and working projects. Look for them, and soon you will be happy.

For sure, bearish market gives a lot of opportunities for strong hands, but the problem is that altcoins haven't shown significant price increase for more than one and half years, while BTC is doing awesome and has already made x3 science the beginning of 2019.

Top altcoin will not disappear without any reason buddy
if the developer team still active to develop the project
but, i believe a lot of shitcoins will disappear in the future
in my opinion now is the right time to collect a good and solid altcoin project

All possibilities can with altcoin that will happen, but the top one can disappear can be ascertained but will grow a new one because altcoin is also very well growing.


like the explanation I said above, obviously altcoin can disappear but will grow a new one.



indeed altcoin very very makes very panic for those who hold it, because of the current instability. but don't need to be afraid because there will always be a good altcoin successor.

Only panic people are always hallucinating, in the world of cryptocurrency we must have a strong commitment so as not to get caught up in circumstances.
When altcoin is bleeding, True traders will always look for ways to get huge profits, Because they know the right way to trade.

Altcoins are really passing the bad time. But I think if BTC dominance cross even 90% then still some reputed altcoins will have a good price and volume. So, you may buy the top altcoins, but not other coins which have a low trading volume. Because that coins can be a scam or wash out within one day! So, red time is not the buy time anymore, be aware of it.

The point is to keep stable coins in case there is signifant price drop! 




This is what i do :


I keep 50% stable coins.


The 25%  I keep bitcoins and 50% i use it to buy and sell.


I have Perfect risk assessment and proper bank roll Management.

That's for the Bitcoin

For alt coins i use different method.

And where are those stable coins located ? Are they in your own wallet, with you having full control over them ?
Or are they on some exchange ? At which the number one rule applies : dont leave any tokens / crypto / fiat on exchanges.

Stable coins are in Exchangers off course! 

I Don't Think its a Bad Exchangers earning Good profit They Want to keep your account safe!
They Don't Want to lose reputation!

Why make profit one time If You Can do it Long time? 

Im sure my coins are protected there!



Stable coins are Good in wallet coz Once Some coins price goes Down I Can quickly buy them!

This strategy of yours leaves you vulnerable to exchanges getting hacked or you getting phished through email for exchange login info.
As long as you can not exercise full control over your crypto, that crypto is not really yours. Crypto is about being your own bank, it is not
about making a centralized exchange your substitute bank.

How many investors / traders do you think also thought their coins were protected, only to find out they were not protected after their exchange got hacked
or their account breached ? I would only start using stablecoins if it was supported by a trustwearthy hardware wallet (so you can move your stablecoin
off an exchange) and if that exchange has insurance protected by law. Tether has neither by the way...

You Don't keep all your Money!
Some u transfer out!

Yeah, I am still in favor of BTC 100% if you are a trader, get in get out and keep in BTC on your wallet. I do agree that for most alts, you should keep trading in stablecoins (USDT). You might not have had much profit in BTC unless you keep shorting alts, but selling alts at their highs in USD gets you a lot more bang. The only problem I have with that is keeping the damn stablecoin which I totally don't trust.

in terms of price, I don't think altcoin will have a blank price or disappear if the team is still developing the project, it's just that low prices are inevitable. many people panic when the price of altcoin decreases because most likely there are more people holding altcoin than bitcoin today. this is because the price of altcoin is low, and can be used quite easily. it's just that, the price reduction is very sharp, making many people panic. Even though the price of altcoin has dropped quite low a few days this month, I'm still confident in its recovery price.

people panic about altcoins is beause they hodl the wrong alt, or called shitcoins mate
but people who hodl the right altcoins will keep confidence, because the future of good alt is always bright
i think a good and solid altcoin will not go to zero  ;)

Most of the people that are holding altcoins to bitcoin today are deeply regretting it and I don't doubt what you said, because the time that many of us saw the potential of altcoins and how they can increase to even 1000x has still not cleared from our mind and we believe that alto in can do that again, but we are making a mistake that when altcoin was still booming was when we still have every reliable projects and investors still has so much trust in ICO, but now, the trust is gone which is why you see altcoins bleeding seriously because most investor are selling their altcoins now for bitcoin having realized that it is the only coin that is still lost reliable for now, and maybe in future, something could happen for good in the life of alts.

The bleeding of altcoins will stop very soon. Many of crypto Twitter are already calling for another altcoin season since seeing the Bitcoin dominance chart stopping at 70%. Well, it can't bleed forever. It will reverse soon, maybe next month.

Why made you think of this?if you don’t trust altcoins then better focus in bitcoin lol
You’re asking too much negative but reacting positively ?
You will never understand the market if you don’t even trust this,and you think more negatively than the positive of the situation

Okay, boys, I think it's now time for you to see the market and see how the alts are doing.It has stopped right away this moment. Ethereum broke $200 and it's likely to move farther than that and might reach a ceiling price of $250 or more than that, I can't tell. Bitcoin dominance from 71% decreased to 68% and this is a sign for altcoins.

It's too early to celebrate, it's just one day of increase, ETH has to prove that it could be consistent and will rise and hold the price for months.
Though it's a good sign but I think it's a sign of an altcoin season, let's wait for bit before we conclude, anyway, this market would be good if altcoins will continue to perform, especially ETH that will affect a lot of its Tokens when it rises.

Well, you are right but I'm just telling them to look at the market and there's something good of looking at it right now. The days of bleeding has finally stopped for the meanwhile and I think that's something that they have to see.
This is a sign but as you said, we have to wait for more time and see if this is going to be stable movement for ethereum.

The recent rise of the ETH is good if we look from the point of the altcoin investors but we still don't have an idea this is the end of a bear market or plainly a small correction wave which will be a continuation of the current bear market. Before making conclusions, checking the altcoin charts will enlighten the mixed opinions. If the price of ETH can touch the $250 and stay there for a week, I will go to celebrate the alt season by adding more altcoin to my diversified altcoin profile. The different options are not going to detect the right guesses by the different people here, and everyone has different strategies in case of the intimated altcoin season. In my trading strategy, adding more to the profitable trades is the best thing to do if the crypto market has strong uptrend signals.

not everybody.  not all are talikng about the status of btc and alts because some just find it a another normal day both cryptos.  some were also busy on their own career and cant join the discussion about the movements
 of btc and alts .

top alts cant disappear because they are at the top at the first place but its possible that some uncomon coins can die.

also , the prices are still overall low right now, so go ahead and buy

But the scenario changed by now as bitcoin is bleeding and altcoins are pumping so this proves the healthiest of market when the things change place days after.

But your question about if some coins might die?

We have already seen some that dies in past but I never saw something in Top ranks maybe if that happens the the answers will be indeed about that question

Good time to buy? it's hard to perceive whether it's the lowest price or it could go lower. It was a good time for me to buy NPXS it dropped really low I bought plenty and then it went even lower and even now never came back to the price I've bought. I'm hodling!
You must be sure to take risks!

ETH did touched $250 this year already but there's no altseason happened, maybe it needs to rise more, like double your target to $500 then we might see an altcoin season. Honestly, I was surprise seeing ETH is growing today, the market is good because BTC did not move, but altcoins are pumping today. Most of the altcoins in the https://coinmarketcap.com/ (top 100) are green, BTC just don't move at all, it's a good development if this will continue to move like this.

Top coins and good coins will have temporary ups and downs only bad and new coins will be affected most so dividng our capital on all cap coins and least should be in small cap coins 

In fact, recent alts have been falling in price. As you probably know, the value of bitcoin has risen sharply in the past 3 months when many investors suddenly sold alts to buy Bitcoin.
This creates a trend and makes the price of alts underestimated.
Therefore, the value of big businesses like ETH, XRP, BCH, Litecoin is not affected, and this is a good time to buy more coins.

We cant still able to conclude yet that this is already the alt season.We do see significant rise on last 24 hours which is good to look at those greens on the charts.
doubling for ETH price would last out for sometime but it doesnt mean that we wont able to see alt season ever again.There would always be but we wont know on when it would happen.Bitcoin is moving sideways for how many months now and we know that it doesnt correlate anytime on altcoins movement either it would go to the opposite way or would simply go along with it and as trader or investor we should know how to spot out entry points for possible lowest or bottom.

The question is, why you buy NPXS? Cause there are a lot of coins we could buy in cheap price or even choose Bitcoin but you are actually choosing that low-value coin which it definitely will soon to die. You know the market already but you are trying to have some luck(bad) with this coin which it turns you out in big losses than to expect of gaining.

But it is not the end of crypto yet... if we could see altcoins movement by now, we can see that there is still hopes but we only need to extend our patient cause that is what we can do at this time.

I am a supporter of PundiX as well, it's one of the few coins in the market that are undervalued now.
It's currently trading from 3 to 4 sats, but this one could be valued over 100 sats in the future, so I think if we buy this coin now, we can easily enjoy a x10 return in just a short period of time.

This is just my own opinion, I could be wrong because investing is really risky, but this is part of my big portfolio that I'm still holding up to now.

altcoin prices can be destroyed like that because I feel the influence of bad news that attacks cryptocurrency like bitcoin will have a bad effect on the price of all cryptocurrency including altcoin prices, you only need to take advantage of moments like this as much as possible to get a lot of profit, control your patience when trading on altcoin.

It's not only the bad news but the general status of the market, this market is so active, from time to time we can read good or bad news but its performance really depends on its season. Now, the market is still not so profitable to invest since altcoins are still bearish, it's bleeding obviously because we've seen how altcoins are down significantly and its getting worse when bitcoin is just moving sideways.

Of course altcoins will not die, it may suffer but it will eventually recover at the right time, so let us not loss our patience because just like in the past, after the bear season, the bull season will take into command.

Sure life goes on. BTC has not so volatility :)
According to PundiX - it was and remains top 100 CMC by cap, and pretty decent trading volume, and it was the time when airdrops finished. I bought it pretty low and hope it would at least be pumped :)

Indeed bleeding market is a good time to buy popular coins because those coins who dont have real use cases are likely to disappear once the market gets worst.

Bitcoin has an influence in altcoins price so if the price of btc is increasing some alts do follow.

Nevertheless whatever happen in the market lets just keep in mind that its just a temporary scenario because nothing is permanent.

It's a matter of how good you will dwell with patience and how you will take the risk without fearing what fate brings you after investing your money. There's always another side of the road, the ups and downs is really annoying. But for those who are aiming to succeed from this industry, finding the right timing would bring good to your invested money.

The bleeding of this known coins can be taken as an option for your investment. You have to go and do your research then assess which is the best option for you.

Well, market seems abit okay these 3 day

At least Alts stop bleeding, Most progress well with 2 digit gain, XRP, LINK, XLM, ETH
Gratz to all who bought it during the low

However, it might just be a BTC/Alts dominance cool down period
Because the pump period for alts is just too short which is why no-one can really conclude if the alts wave is here
Always follow the trend, Trend is your friend!

Or there could be manipulation for the bitcoin market that's why altcoins have started some magical runs as of today. But we still don't know how long will this last, bitcoin is still dominating, more than 60% of total market caps.

So it's good to see altcoin gaining some momentum but I'm not totally sold, this could be short and sweet so everyone not blink on this one.

actually why do you think there is manipulation of bitcoin on the market? for what happened? if there really are some people or groups who intend to manipulate prices and movements of bitcoin, just believe they will definitely need a very large money.

altcoin conditions have started to improve, although after rising most will also go down again. it's very reasonable because there is no strong market demand. but if we see the movement of altcoin which has improved it means a good sign for the market to come.

There are actually good coins that are in the top list before that are not in the top list now. So yeah, altcoins bleeding is normal and some altcoins are going to come to the point where they are going to die out.

yesterday most of altcoin in green colour and now back to red again
i think a lot of traders already take their profit now, thats why the price become red
but don't worry, i believe Q4 of this year the price of altcoin will growing my friend ;)

The bleeding market will not stop except that we get a factor that will make the market to become a talk of the town again, what is happening to Ethereum? and I am wondering if they are still making moves to trigger the market again because I feel what actually led us to the last bull run was the entrance of ico if moment the market, and this was what made many large investors to put in large amount of money then.

Right now, people are very carefully in investing their money into ico now because they feel like the whales are smarter than them, and the best way to avoid whales winning is abstaining which I think it is what is making us lose value of altcoins every day. I feel that ethereum can adopt the policy of binance also to coordinate things.

for those who can take advantage of the moment and take the opportunity I think we can get benefits every day. for those who miss it might be sorry if it turns out the price of many back down.

Of course, such a possibility always is, that altcoin can go to zero. That's why better to buy something from top 20 coinmarketcap

I really doubt the fact of altcoin getting wiped even dogecoin mate It will be obviously hard for that to happen my friend BTC will still dominate for the time being and there will be more struggle for altcoin to shake that off and from what we are seeing Is as if that is starting to take place More time and maybe BTC drop 20% more

They can just disappear if they are proved to scammed their investors and holders of their coin. I don't want to use a specific altcoin as an example but when the top altcoins are proven to scammed people then they can just disappear in an instant but most of the team of the top altcoins are known by many people, there is a chance that they will caught by authorities.

Yeah it is a good time to buy but if it becomes a scam coin, there is no good to time to buy anymore but good time to sell only.

Except dogecoin, many altcoins from the past will be eliminated and forgotten in the market. Yes, they can be ranked as good as others but the attention that they had before from the traders and investors won't be the same anymore. It's acceptable that bitcoin will dominate the market regardless of how good the altcoins coming in but the coins that comes in right now aren't really good anymore except the corporation made.

Everyone knows that when the market is red, it's time to buy coins. But don't be too dependent on color, because in a market full of manipulation, you won't know where the bottom is and sometimes you'll lose a lot. Stay tuned for more news about the alts and the financial markets to catch the best trends.

Sure I've have some patience left in my bag. But you know, dealing with high-volatile alts makes me nervous. For example, I believe in ETH and other top alts that they will recover but witnessing a pump of some low-cap alt is so frustrating (seems I'm missing the opportunity that wouldn't ever occur)  - unlike top 10 alts.
Why I'm into risk? - The margin can be too high (unlike solid assets ).

There are plenty of good alts out thre, with really solid use cases. Yes Bitcoin dominance is really high, but an increase in BTC dominance is what we would expect after the end of a bear market, when confidence begins slowly to return. I think it's likely that alt prices will pick up once market confidence increases a bit more.

There is no coin here that is less volatile I guess because even BTC which is the most popular coin are still very volatile.
Sometimes it's up 10% or down at the same percent, that tells it's very volatile.

We came here to invest because we trust the future of our coins but if we will just give up easily, that would not be helpful for us to achieve our goal here.
Please remember that before the last bull run, the market is already volatile and there are a lot of coins which dump but still recover, so let's put it in our mind and think that it's also possible that the market will recover in the future.

Market cap is obviously not the right parameter to determine the volatility of asset. It is actually the saturation point. Saturation point comes with time. Currently bitcoin is far away from saturation point. So we can say, it will take atleast 15-20 years when total supple will be distributed among at least 400-500M people.

for altcoin, of course, different. You know that there is altcoin that does not have a total supply. they continue to be produced through mining and will continue to increase the number of coins circulating in the market. the influence on the market will be felt. especially if the trading trends of bitcoin also cannot be stable and remain in an upward trend.

I also have a strong belief in that. I think the altcoins are only being undervalued and undervalued, which may be a whale's strategy to discourage speculators and sell it.
Now all you have to do is keep your head cool and wait for the storm to pass. I believe the market will recover soon.

Yes, I agree that top altcoins could possibly disappear but we should know how to deal with the possible changes.
There will be plenty of panic sellers during the dip but as smart crypto traders, we should know how to take it as an opportunity.
As for me, underestimated coins have a higher capability to rise in time. There are bleeding coins which can't survive but a coin with a strong foundation could exceed our expectations when the market situation gets better.

This is only speculation, what if whales dont really want to buy that coins because of risk invlove. There is coin with more supporters but even them will sell there coin if they see that there is no more hope with that coins and move it to btc which is more secured than altcoins.

it's not as easy as that Altcoin which is ranked above the CMC is not a kind of shitcoin that only pumps and dumps like most.
they have advantages both in technology, demand and sales, and if there is a decline and increase in prices are usually based on BTC prices, but sometimes there are different but only briefly and return to the movement of BTC.
so if you want to look for big profits in the short term, play on the ALT pump and dump, you will get used to seeing it when you often see coins listing in a market and experiencing unnatural ups and downs.

Altcoins have already experienced a catastrophic drop in prices and I think that only the price increase for coins will wait for us. Now I'm buying from the current TOP-100 Altcoins. I will continue to buy until prices increase by 100%.

Whales won't do anything about of the other altcoins but the people who are involved in investing the project will eventually make a move once they saw any window of opportunity if the price is reasonable enough. Even if this is just a speculation, top coins would still continue to grow as long as there are people supporting it.

Yes, it sounds like but how these (some) altcoins ruining crypto because of their market incompetence.
Some of them will look good at first but they never survive in the long run which I couldn't think that these coins will be able to rise up again. Most investors today are very skeptical when they saw there is no market improvement with their bought altcoins but rather to choose those who already have a good market value.

You should try buying some altcoins you will understand what PANIC means. dude, the altcoins ship is sinking it's time to abandon ship. unless if you have a better plan of buying now. hold your altcoins and sell later when things get back to normal, I mean when the altcoins market is fully recovered. 

And now it's time to take profit. Like for ethereum, the last low price that we've seen it a few days ago was $178.
So for someone who doesn't look to the market as long term and there's a chance that he will panic once it drops again, take your profits now. This is unpredictable, you get to abandon and get back when it's good again. A strategy that some investors do but I find this riskier than holding and waiting for selling at high.

Eth has been observed to have increased today to 6% I think this is better than yesterday which was red and made panic for some investors even though the ups and downs of eth prices on the market in this time is a natural thing and should not be worried because I believe Eth is the best altcoin that can change the life of someone who dares to hold back and believes in the future of this coin in the future.

From that point, it's your personal experienced that will let you to take advantage of buying low and selling high. ETH is  a good example of taking opportunities, if you able to buy it a week ago then keep it until now you earn if you will sell it by now. Keep in mind that if you do have the money
to spare and you are ready to take the risk, chances of getting decent profits from this market is very possible. Bleeding market is part of the cycle, do your best to accumulate coin that have potential to rise back.

ETH is not the best altcoin right now, it was best back then but now it has lost its charm. Most of the ICOs now are conducted on Exchanges as IEOs, the use of ETH chain is decreasing so is the amount of ICO contribution received in ETH. In short, use of Ethereum is decreasing. So the price being proportional to use, is also hitting floor.

Are you continue buying if the price drops ?
Have you got the limit when you wanna sell the tokens if the price drops too low, i think exit price is needed also in cryptocurrency trading

I think that it is best that we just limit our investment right now to the top 100 coins as they are the ones that will finally survive in future when regulation starts because I believe that once regulation is being introduced now, majority of these fake coins that are deceiving investor would leave the market, leaving the market to most of those coins with real working products.

If you may ask me of the products with real working products, they are projects that are within the top 100 as you listed and I can't even wait for that time to come, so that the level of coin saturation in the market can be reduced for us to focus all our time and money on those coins with the top 100 and I think that is the only time these coins can fully come out of bear market.

The altcoins hype of 2017-2018 was an one time thing. many speculators and scammers saw their chance to ride on the bitcoin and sell crap to unknown investors who thought to get rich quick. now every Newbie is holding bags of altcoins which they hope they can dump on new investors. Only that last reason is already enough to never let it happen in the same way. They much rather create new altcoins then and start over with their altcoins. Lets be honest, 99% was worthless after all. Not much has created and most of the money is just gone without anything to show for. You can read one of my posts about it here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185819.msg52712774#msg52712774

How much money have you invested in the altcoin market and what is the total loss, i can guarantee that you would have lost more than 50% of your capital you invested and you think that they market is undervalued because of some whale strategy  ::). Everyone knows that majority of the projects that started have shut their development process when the market went down and the developers themselves sold all their tokens.

If there is a recovery only the top coins in the market will recover and not the entire altcoin market.

Yes, whenever the price of Bitcoin is changing automatically it is effecting on altcoin prices, which most of the altcoins are decreasing their prices more than 10%, to recover those prices it is taking more than 1 week. Sometime it is very unfortunate whether the price will recover or not.

It depends on how good the management of the coins itself, if the coin have a really good management like ETH it will stay on the top currency all the time.

many people said if the market is red is the best time to buy,
but they forgot if markat has a structure, because of that we must know about technical analysis buddy
so, we knew when we must enter or exit the market

we just waiting for awakening of ethereum,maybe much people using for IEO but is not mean ethereum will be "down".
look for 1 years later.

when altcoin prices fall and flush like that it should be a very good point to buy altcoin as much as you can and take advantage of lots of panicked traders to buy altcoin at cheap prices.

Obviously that's what you should do if you see some value on the altcoins that are dropping.
With some manipulation happening in the market, its expected that price will dump anytime after this whales are tired of pumping the price.
it's where the high volatility strikes again and they are good at that as they are making money at the same time.

This discussion thread is the mirror of the market volatility. Reading it from the very beginning to the end (although it is short enough), we will see that altcoins can fall and go up several times a month. In reality, 2019 is a positive and good year for all cryptocurrencies (in comparison with 2018, for sure).

If we look at the movement of bitcoin prices that continue to rise lately, it is only natural altcoins bleeding. I think that's very normal,
because if the price of bitcoin rises then automatically bitcoin is very dominant compared to altcoins. With so many investors whose
funds are in altcoins were moved to bitcoin, this is what caused altcoins bleeding. But after bitcoin prices are stable / side away then
investors this will move the funds to altcoins for trading, now the price of altcoins will gradually rise. It's like crypto market conditions,
so no need to panic to see altcoins bleeding.

Yes, the really bad ones will do one or the other eventually, as people lose interest in them and figure out that there's nobody mining them and isn't a market for them.  It's already happened to a lot of coins that yobit gives away for free.  

That's a good idea but only if you pick the right coins.  Any of them worth 15 sat or less (and that's only my estimation) are doomed.  It's funny because dogecoin has always had a low valuation in terms of satoshis but it still retains a very strong, supportive community.  But dogecoin is an exception to the rule.  Very cheap coins are usually priced that way for a dam good reason, meaning that they hold little value.  Either stick to bitcoin or to the top coins on coinmarketcap.

And it's hard to see that value sometimes, because there are so many coins in existence and nobody knows which ones are even going to survive.  It's a great idea to buy low and sell high, but you have to pick the right coins.  That's the really hard part for any trader/investor.

I think the last 3 days altcoins good movement, bitcoin is currently stable at 9,1 - 9,2 and altcoins looks agile. I've made profits from many alts lately from daytrading but not much. 2-3% each trade is still viable on this current market condition. I'm sure it will still last for this week before the next bitcoin movement and we have to take advantage of this condition

But the altcoin market continues to show some sign of bleeding, most of them are -90% from their previous high, so there's no improvement because we are still in the bear market. Altcoin right now is being carried by Bitcoin, because it was obviously that when Bitcoin price goes up, the price of major altcoins followed just like what we've seen recently. And with that said, this bleeding will stop unless Bitcoin goes to another pump up to the end of the year and then we will see what happen after the block halvening and hope that when Bitcoin goes to another all time high, it will also trickle down to altcoin market.

maybe in general the performance of price developments in investments with such cryptocurrency and the development of crypto or altcoin currencies depends on the investors themselves if indeed bitcoin goes up but investors remain on the belief with altcoin maybe the value of altcoin will not decrease and all that may have become a trait and investment risks with crypto or altcoin

Something like that as the cycle still the same. If you observe all those previous movements coming from this industry, you'll be noticing that everything still lean with how Bitcoin moves. From both ends, Bitcoin influenced still at Large to this industry, investors are anticipating using Bitcoin previous actions. If you will study deeper you will soon be based your decision with how you'll going to anticipate the next trend. Bitcoin first then assess and observe to pick the right position.

We absorbed this type of situation previously, but with the recent bitcoin recovery, it is impossible for the altcoin to rise because Bitcoin fluctuation is kept increasing and it is effecting on the altcoins. Yes, your prediction is right when the price of Bitcoin is becoming stable then the altcoin will start increasing their prices.

If some altcoins will not have trade volume people will not have interest and they will dissappear, i mean will not be used anymore by anyone, even they are holders, traders, but most of us complain because the altcoins price drop and not grow so we recover investments, and bitcoin recover but altcoins still no.

It's based on each investors judgement, and its really tough to choose the right coin since there's a lot of them that is available in the market.
With that, we need to be careful in evaluating the coins as one mistake might make our investment loss forever.

you know, in crypto, its like gambling, you lose big time and you win big time, so you need to be smart (basic requirement) and lucky to get your goal.

Yeah I admit your future thinking prediction for altcoins , same with mate I still believe altcoins specially came from the top laitung into coin market cap will give better profits before end of this year. We saw altcoins today is have a good sign for the bullrun which possible if bitcoin continue to increasing.