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We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin  free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

Coin and tokens has no real value as it can't be use to purchase thing in local stores, though the demand from the people dictates the price in the market.
THe more demands they get the better the value.
Airdrops are not that big, people only get this free token in reasonable numbers, some might not even good to trade due to the gas fee.

For me the main reason is the luck of demands, the token is listed in not good exchange with low volume.
Pre-sale tokens are not locked and big investors who got huge discounts starts to sell at the very beginning.

The first reason was true but it much better to replace your second reason with the developer was offering too many bonuses for the early investors that might create a dump to the market when the token traded above the price of early stage.
But the downtrend will have caused by that coin has no liquidity and demand.
This is a usual thing in the crypto when a crap coin will have no demand.

what you mean by Pre-sale tokens are not locked and big investors who got huge discounts starts to sell at the very beginning.

Do you mean owner sell the token after listing in exchanges at low price ?

I think this can’t happen with a good project, since I reckon that the team has smart people and they have re-calculated everything.  The only reason I think the price is falling very much is because the team itself starts selling its tokens if they are not blocked.

Or the third option, the team doesn't care about the the project and the price at all. If a project is true to their words and they have the capabilities to finish what they started, they would find ways to prevent the market from going down. Even if the second option is present, a project wouldn't die from it, but most of them die or just exit scam after the first wave.

All of your opinion and observation are all true, but the hardest thing to accept is the developers run away with the loot or investor's money after doing crowdfunding, they list the coins and after that, we never hear from them again hundreds of projects are like that two examples are Resto Token and Konios

nah bounty and airdrop isn't really have much coin/token , usually just like 2-10 % from total supply. I think the coin/token have no demand there. No one wanna buy it. It team and developer problem that fail to attract peoples to buy their coin/token

About the second reason i belief if the project is good enough with high demanding rate it will always recover even if all bounty hunters and airdroppers dump the coin or token, go for coins with real use cases, you might witness very high demand and there will be enougj volume for such coin

the main reason in my opinion the project itself, the project not good enough to push the price up.

and maybe there is another reason my friend
third, early investors with huge bonus, they will dump their bonus when the project listed on exchange
fourth, when the team dump their token early, because there is no locked up period mate
sometimes people blame the bounty hunters and airdrop hunters, but the fact not all hunters will dump their rewards earlier, because the delay on distributions

Yes i think so. Firstly if project is not good enough then people don't want to show their interest about it. So that time investor who bye huge amount coin they sold it and price drop dramatically day by day.

And the second one also a cause for that. I saw some bounty campaign that one single person can earn lot of coin if the person join signature bounty. Because maximum project based by stakes and they just take that opportunity like that. And when coin come to the market hungry bounty hunter sell his/her reward no matter what price is that. Because they don't care about project they just need money for their couple of months hard work. Which have a point though.

And i can blame for that admin team undoubtedly. Because if they are take some responsible step then nobody has to seen this picture. It's really hard to see in front of my own eyes when a coin dead like that.  :'( :'(

One of the reason why lots of coin dumped during exchange Is due to the quality of some shitty exchanges they got listed on,  exchange with fake volume no real trades just bot trades

Bounties and airdrop participants also contribute to token fall in price,  as huge as harmony project is,  it got dumped hard time when bounties participants where being shared their tokens

Sometimes team might be dumping secretly when listed on exchange, These are some of the factors that cause dumping when listed on exchange

First reason is valid because price will vary on actual coins usage or support from the community but if we do talk about initial phase dumps
then most probably the reason is on the early investors itself specially to those who got some decent bonus or discounts on early sale.
Airdropped coins are only minimal and even into their bounty programs allocation.It do only get some negative impressions most of the
time when we do talk initial exchange listing dumps.

I disagree in regards to airdrop as those are just small percentage of its supply. It may cause a short term dump but if that project is really one of a kind it will find a way to soar  high and other than that for me the main reason is because of those investors who got a lot because of bonus

Dont' forget cheap price that investor get in presale. It means they don't need to wait ICO price to sell their coins. And about airdrop, it is right if people who get rewards from airdrop and bounty wouldn't think about price because they not lose anything, but bounty and airdrop usually only use very small amount in percentage from total supply of the coin / token.

Don't blame too hard the bountyhunters and airdroppers to drop the price after the listing (unlike if they are farmers).
It could be the early investors to take profit or even the members of the project's team.

That's right, the average allocation for bounties and airdrop is only 2% -3% of total supply. This is very different from the many bonuses that are obtained by investors, in private and public sale. Therefore the fall in prices at the time of listing is not only due to the bounty hunter, but because of the investors themselves.

At present in some bounties, developers have changed the rules to delay bounty payments and are given a time lag from their first listing.

Here we go again .
Would you explain how does the airdrop or bounty participants destroy the price by 90%.
When the bounty + airdrop would only be about around 5-10% of the supply.
And not to mention that we have some bounty or airdrop holders.
Truth to be told it is not just the bounty hunters who are crashig it,
It is also the investors and the small amount of demand .

The first reason is almost 100% true for all tokens ever listed. Value is artificial, derived not from actual use but from speculation and guessed use case not real utility.

IEO coins aren't also usually given away as airdrops, not in the beginning anyway. They airdrop or give free ones to those after the sale.

That's how I see it anyway.

As many members say, not all projects start to distribute airdrop token before listing. But, token/coin still down. It's meant airdrop or bounty hunter can't be blamed. Condition happen because too many people trying to sell token or coin very early to get profit and move to other coins. When many people sell their tokens, low demand, prices will start dropping slowly. Another reason is price of bitcoins not stable.

You smart

The third is because they are weak hand and want to get a quick buck ASAP
But trust me, become a weak hand is not bad at all. Sometimes there is a token/coin that will never come back into the price when first time listing in exchange. Selling ASAP is the best decision than late sell and your token become no value (totally dumped)...

well, maybe both reason above is a reasonable reason
but, basicly why the price down after tradeable in exchange is because the token has no demands mate
because only demands can push the price up

Those two reasons are makes sense for me and could be the caused why the tokens price cannot surpassing pre sale price after got listed to an exchange and indeed every projects will be tested when they listed on the exchange whether they will be lack interest or their market support will be increase and people trade those tokens but besides all of it we have to concern about global market conditions that if all of crypto price dropped and sometimes this can makes the price of tokens fall too

High discounts in the presale

NO development after the token sale

Are the two main reasons why the prices getting dumped once its listed on exchanges.

Ya, almost all and a lot bounty campaigns pay or distribute the rewards after price dumped. With this things, it is proven that bounty hunters is not who dump the price of tokens. Because we get paid when price really cheap, and of course i wouldn't do anything else except hold. Who not want to get paid in high amount of money nowadays?

because it got dumped, that is why

You're right, now Bounty Hunters only get very small payments. even become very priceless when the decline occurs. and I myself am still confused because there are still people who blame the bounty hunter because of the decline that occurred after the bounty distribution was done. whereas now we can see that there is not much allocation for bounty hunters.

here is your answar,streight to the point

the main reason is the lack of requests from the new token. it is natural to happen in new projects which of course their market is not too strong, while the tokens that are circulating are also large, when demand is small and many are selling then there will be a price reduction after being listed on the exchange. therefore it is important for developers to think about their token distribution strategy to all token holders. this strategy determines demand, trade and community trust.

I think that is because the tokens or coins have to get dump by bounty hunters, the investors, and people who are buying directly in the exchanges. Many people are trying to make a fast buy in the market while many of them are doing fast selling, and that makes price get a dump. I think the developers and teams should prevent that before it's too late, but that is what happens in the market. It is happening for almost all tokens and coins that already get the list in the exchanges.

It is simple, my friend. All of crypto is still technically speculative meaning no real demand because of usage. So, buyers are enticed by profit. And when a coin is hyped to be added to an exchange, unsuspecting newcomers think this is fomo time and buy at any price while those who are already in profit dump their coins asap causing a cascading effect where all the rest suffer losses.

If the project not good, it can be dumped. Usually developer will think to listed their token into exchange, whatever exchange is it they wouldn't care. At least investor happy because it means update from developer. After that, they will think about pump, buy back, etc. And what investor do is sell their tokens after see good price or at least already profitable to them.

Yeah it is true. The main reason for the price drop is mainly because of the second point you have mentioned. Before the tokens get listed in an exchange, there are different programs hosted by the project to earn their tokens like bounty program, signature campaign, airdrops and giveaways. No once the token gets listed, users who received those tokens without investing anything starts to dump their tokens to cash out their tokens to fiat currency or some other well known crypto currencies. Thus as soon as the token gets listed, the price starts to fall and takes a lot of time to recover (considering that the project is a good one and successful)

Without any real usage and any expected progress early investors will completely dumped the tokens that they've got, it's better for them to sell and enjoy the profits that they will have so expect things like this will happen. You need to be more selective with everything that you will going to decide especially with new projects around, the real usages and teams behind are very important to consider.

Right.

When any user get free token or coin from airdrop

They just want to swap to any currencies

It must be This reason ...

But Legit price of every coins won't down ..it like CCA project and Vite Project..

Prices go down after entering the market due to lack of demand, usually it happens to ICO projects, their tokens are destroyed after entering the market

that happens because early investors (investors who buy during pre-sale) sell all their coins and developers have no goal of continuing to develop their products.

seriousness and a professional team will determine the project will go according to the goal,  but now I see a lot of developers who only have the goal to raise funds, they didn't intend to develop the product from the start.  we must avoid fraudsters like that from the start.

That is a market trick, pretty sure they just want the money coming in but have no guts to sustain their project after. That was a sad reality of some project launch today. Though some of them could manage to hold for a while after listing and it turns difficult and weird things goes out. Probably they called it a scam but not actually their intention, it only the reason that investors never see its potentiality in the long run.

It is not necessarily when airdropers dump the price because of the sell-off. Because the airdrop program only has a few tens of thousands of dollars, it cannot dump too strongly. If it is a good project, they are willing to set buy wall for bounty hunters to sell without reducing prices, such as Beaxy exchanges, they protect investors by placing huge buy orders to ensure the price. of the token. That is a good project and is trusted by many investors.

The decline is due to the fact that the number of token purchases is no longer available, that's when the sharks let their prices plummet and wait to pump again. Like Binance IEO's BAND, last night it dropped more than 27% and now it has risen more than 26%, which is why the price has been pushed low.

I add one reason:
because the circulation of tokens at the beginning of trading is very large, the tokens that I mean here are in addition to investor tokens, sometimes there are teams that do not lock advisory tokens, partners, or other allocations, so many free tokens are circulating. and the demand is small

Guys, I want to express my opinion on those free tokens that you are talking about, because you can take as an example those companies that block tokens after distributing rewards for air drops or Bounty companies.  Therefore, these tokens do not affect pricing after listing.  And as a result, prices still fall several times.  I believe that in some cases, developers unreasonably inflate the prices of their tokens, the value of which is completely different.  That is why both traders and investors are not active in trading such coins, despite the more or less visible potential of the project.

i like the first point of the op - "the coin or token has no real value". this is the major reason why a certain coin cant stop the continuous decline of its price once listed. if those sellers believe that this coin will be valuable in the future, they will not sell their share for pennies!
 we have witnessed countless times that when a coin plunges, very rare that it can recover even half of its initial price. for those that who dont want to wait for nothing, they will just sell their holdings even at cheap prices. you cant blame them. they dont want to lose all their investments.
those free tokens that the team distributed, should have no significant impact as the percentage is very small as compared to their total supply. should not even think that they will dictate the fate of the project!

and besides that coins or tokens are listed in bad exchange and I often see that happening on a project. I also agree with some of the reasons you say because that makes the price of coins in the market fall after listing. some people get coins from airdrop directly sell them because they get them for free without hard work so price drop after listing on exchange.

yes, the point is very simple, but it contains many reasons, every coin that has no real value has its own reasons and if discussed one by one, it will take a lot of time.

Its because of being have low demand that's why the prices going down after listing.  But you know its just normal scenario and it doesn't mean it last afterwards and will not go further . Because it's still have a potential to gain value wherein depends on the performance of the team behind also.  So you better pick wisely and make sure the team behind are very professional to assure everything will be fine no matter what happen.

If from my point of view it might be a little different, but I agree with what you say. The main thing in doing this is to not be in a hurry and also not to be too tempted by the offers or promises of each of their teams.
Keep in mind that not all coins are down after listing exchange, there are also those that exceed the price at ICO.

the low demand is indeed one important point why a new coin is easy enough to go down. sometimes almost everyone who is interested in the project has invested in the ICO / IEO. so, there will be no new requests when they enter the market so that it makes no walls volume in the market.

The small volume is also one of the reasons for the price of new coins to fall. in this case, the team's strategy is needed to create a wall on sell orders so that when many people sell their tokens, prices don't dump so far.

The biggest reason is that the token has no value. I see there are projects that only pay for bounty or airdrop about 0.5% - 1% of the total token sale. Although their token sale is more than 50% of the total supply, until the price plummets, do they blame bounty hunters? ???
In fact, the problem lies with the team, they do not want to support the acquisition of tokens, so the price falls free.

This is partly true. Crypto projects give away huge amounts of tokens for free through bounty campaigns and airdrops just to advertise their product. But the story does end here. The big picture is different. Crypto projects give high amount of bonus during pre sale or ICO or IEO. So investors sell off tokens just to get quick bucks right after hitting exchanges.

In fact, this is the main reason for the price reduction. Participants in the bounty and airdrop have almost no effect on the price, since they are paid very small amounts. The whole problem is the huge bonuses that are given to investors.
But this is not the main problem. The main problem is the lack of good projects. Naturally, unpromising projects will immediately depreciate.

I do not agree if you said that bounty hunter destroys prices. Allocation for bounties for each project is only a few percent of the total number of coins. There has never been a project that allocated for bounties greater than the number of coins. The price of coins falls when they enter the market is not caused by bounty hunters who sell their coins. But more than the project itself. Unfavorable development and lack of demand for the coins in the market.

Many factor can make token price fall after listing, token has no value is the main factor and big bonuses in tokensale is another factor can make token price fall.

If commonly we think also we can find that users are contributing their money to get the returns as a profit. You cannot surely say that most of the project will sustain for long time. So in the time of the listing itself at least 75 percentage of the people sell their tokens or coins.

We need think about the best altcoins and invest on that to make the profit.

Actually in certain factors it affects the price since bounties are been released to the participant in bulk and almost all of the hunters are dumping their coins immediately that's why we can see the price dump, But actually all of this still depends on developers since if they don't support there token/coin then it will dump.

The only reason why I think this happened to some tokens/coins is their lack of liquidity, most of the bounty that I joined doesn't have a Plan B when things are not happening according to what they planned. the late distribution of bounty rewards will help a lot, because base on my research, we can see that delaying the rewards of the bounty participants will stop the tokens/coins from falling to the bottom.

mostly, when those new tokens/coins are listed on exchanges a swarm of bounty participants will immediately dump their tokens/coins we cannot blame them because those tokens/coins now belong to them.

If they can just list their coins to more exchanges before distributing it, they can prolong their tokens/coins life before they can release new updates with their tokens/coins. in that way, the price will not fall down. instead, it will ride the waves and stay alive in the future.

During this time I experienced the influence of sales price changes from Bounty Hunter token sales. However, if they have good marketing and a good development a sharp decline will not happen. The selling value of definite coins after the decline will rise.

Many projects even now restrict bounty hunters from selling tokens by giving tokens after the project is completed gradually. This kind of way is often done even after tokens are listed on the exchange, cannot be sold directly and they lock them so the price can continue to stabilize.

I'm little bit off with that suggestion since hunters should pay what they deserve and if devs don't want there token price to get dump then they should support it and do some buybacks or whatever strategy just to maintain there token price, I really saw those great project up way back on year 2017 where new alts came pretty strong but now almost all new comers are totally bullshit where there is no clear indicator if they will stay since mostly all are scams.

Buyback model bounty campaigns don't solve the problem, it creates more problems from my expertise on so campaigns. Token price is not issue on the scam projects, the team of the scam projects always delay the bounty reward distribution and they never announce the exchange listing as they promised at the first stages of the ICO. The bounty hunters are deceived by both bounty managers and teams, I don't blame the bounty hunters for the before-mentioned reasons. Great projects never do make such problems and they pay as they develop their project. The problems start after the end of the bounty campaigns and the dump follows in the exchange listing time. Altcoins are more than 2500 according to the Coinmarketcap, just a small portion of these altcoins are useful for the crypto society.

There are many reasons for prices to fall right after linking on the first exchange. Most of the reasons come from investors who participated in ICOs at low prices, and after being listed on the first exchanges, they started selling them all to make a profit. Or the project development team cannot keep investors and investors from selling all tokens they hold and leave.

The most important in order to have sustainable growth of a coin is that investors could see of its potentiality which is somehow couldn't see in many projects today. Developers never have any action to place for a long-term plan, they'll just be confident and they think that it is enough to be listed in a certain exchange that has even no market volume. And what it happens after listing? Nothing it happens, nobody set their buying price cause they know that they couldn't get something from them. A lot of sellers (even the price is low) but nobody is buying still, be dead.

No project owner would able to stop their investors not to sell out their tokens after listing yet the primary reason why people do invest is to make profits when they do see a minimal or possible profits on the money they do invested.

We do see some gimmicks or strategies of some project like holding or locking up funds before releasing it to prevent being dumped which is quite good and not bad.
Usually with these dump talks all bounty hunters would took the blame without even thinking that its investors are the primary dumpers.

that team thing is a very big factor in exchange listing, those guys are too tricky and have caused a massive price dump in a lot of projects this year. If we have to look keenly on price of project listed this year, a large percentage didnt do well at all, irrespective use of case, that brings me project's work on token economics.

That is important to see that its devs will be much responsible for all their actions. If they want their project to succeed and not being devalued after listing, then they should have to control the buying and selling of their coins just what it did by some developers. But somehow and we can't deny also that some investors are so skeptical and they only look for a project that seems to be trusted and they feel that they could make money with them.

Unfortunately that is definitely correct mate, selling the bounty coins or tokens rewards is possible the causes of the price drops of the project in the market cap, but this harder to explain why is factor have big effect from every project specially if the coins or token have an decent price value until they goes again into a shit coins. This happen needs to resolve of every devs.

You're right, there are few reasons why the coins are dumping after getting listed in exchanges.

Usually hunters are selling their coins to take advantage while it has still value and some investors are dumping as well if they didnt see any progress in the project.

I think its a human nature to sell especially if you only got your tokens for free.

That airdrop is meant to be sold in the first place because they have the right to do it but I do believe that airdrop are not responsible for the plummeting of coins. The total value of airdrops are very low that it does not have a significant change in the value of the token if they all sell. And the IEO, their pump machine does not work anymore and people got burned so hard in their last participation even in the top and reputable exchanges that launch it so they now go down instantly or your first reason just perfectly describe the coin.

Your two observations are all correct but there are still a lot of factors like some bounty hunters dumping their shares, we cannot blame them it's not easy promoting a project daily for several months, they reward themselves for their hard work, so they dump a small portion.
Early birds investors those who bought in the presales with bonus, who want to take a portion of their investment this early in case the project did not live up to it's potential.

But the worst scenario is the team dumping their unsold tokens, after the crowdfunding the team has nothing to do with the market, it should be investors who will play the market, and they have to go to work and set up the project.

Most of the participants and investors are don't think of the beauty of the token commodities anymore but they are  more on sure earnings by dumping their huge bonuses during the sales and also i have heard that some of the token owners are dumping first to cover their operation expenses and to keep their sure earnings.

Bounty hunters work to earn coins and make sense if they will sell the coins they earn. And I think this is inevitable. But not completely blame the bounty hunter, you should also look at the actual condition of the project. Maybe because they don't have a good strategy in developing the project.

All projects if it has an excellent development, if the price decreases, surely the price will be back up. It may be noteworthy also for those holders with a large number of coins, such as investors.

I think that is a reasonable action. investors will secure their money quickly, what more is there a big possibility that dump will happen again when there is a bounty token distributed. and for smart investors they will wait for that moment to go back to buying coins that have gone through the dump. of course at prices lower than the purchase price of their ICO.

This is the reality when you invested on a startup project, which also makes it difficult for the investor as they have no assurance of what the price will be after it hits exchanges because of the volatility of the market. There are token offerings though that lets you buy unlocked quality coins (https://stp.network/?utm_source=lx) on a discounted price, that way, you'll immediately know what the existing price is but at the same time, get it super cheap.

But in terms of getting profits, the dev team should also do their part in terms of delivering certain parts of their roadmap in order to get the value up and make their investors happy atleast.

There is little chance that the second section could cause it. The loss of value due to the airdrop makes project one of the weakest in the market.
But the first part is closer to reality. When the project is launched, they have goals to keep it up and if that goal is too far away, why would someone need it? lack of demand also cause the price to fall many times.

The second reason is the main thing why pice are dropping after listing in exchange because huge dumping is happening right after the very moment it was listed

The first reason for me is the main reason why the coin/token is slowly dying time after time because of the truth that it has no value and needed to be eliminated from the list so it won’t victimized others as this can be used by pump and dump team

You are very right on point bro, these are the two major things that is responsible for the death of some of these coins, the product they release into the market does not have real value, and so, it does not become attractive to users other than investors and the time it only become attractive to investors is when they offer them that huge reward they normally get on their purchase.

I think that that reward is exactly what crashes the price more especially the reward of those that participate in the pre ICO, that amount they give is more than enough  for the profit alone to crash the whole market talk less of the main capital that they have invested heavily in the market, and until this reward of a thing stop before dumping can reduce and market become stable.

Some are really buying new tokens because they want to earn easy money and when he exchange listing begin they will sell right away. If the price falls and become a shitcoin then its not the problem of the bounty anymore, its the failure of the team. I also sell tokens after the exchange listing because that’s the best way to enjoy your hard work.

The factor of a large bonus when they make sales offers is one of the reasons why prices have dropped quite large, even up to more than 70%. As a result, the team that is too big in offering the actual bonus offer is also not very good for the system

Yes, this is true. Also those rewards from bounties such as signature or even social media campaigns give lot of coins to those users whom completed those bounties. They literally can get 1% of the reserved pool just from bounties and when those coins listed on exchange, it would make a slightly impact to the market.

The market conditions are generally poor and cryptocurrency traders are not happy buying at the moment. So this causes a general poor volume flowing towards newly listed altcoins also, the high bonuses given to investors makes them dump easily at exchange listing. To add salt to the injury would be if the developers distribute airdrop or bounty rewards too at listing ;)

   It`s like that when we have so many new projects around, and to many traders. Where are the people who invest
and hold?
   New projects can do much in short period of time, how to develop so fast? Early investors, bounty hunters, and all
others who have coins create a massive dump, supply goes to sky and without demand price must go down.
   I have many coins/tokens that worth less then before, but I have faith in those projects in long-term, they will recover
their prices and rise more, when they become fully developed.

It is not in the 2 reasons that you set out. I have my own opinion and want to share with you.
Since tokens are heavily depreciated after being listed on exchange, the only major factor is that the CEO no longer cares about the value of the tokens.
There have long been many types of projects that only need to get money from investors, they will focus on product development and business, then use profits to feed the business.
This situation happens to happen in a project that I have invested, which is Current. Currently a pretty big music app in the US and some neighboring countries. but for nearly 2 years, they have been constantly delaying the token distribution and seem to want to evade us for this. they're selfish and just thinking for themselves, and we can't sue them because we're not in America. Those CEOs only see investors as a stepping stone for them and they just need to use our money and not give us any value. because there is no binding financial statement or quarterly profit distribution when investing. That is also the biggest flaw of IEO or ICO.

It's true that the coin or token don't have a real value. And some people acquired this in airdrop or bounty. But the main reason is the project has no future. Or the team only wants to gain money from it.

I think the most important reason for these decreases is that people who buy the token at the price of ico sell it at the stock market price. I disagree with the idea theese token has no real value. For example, You bought a coin for $1 with the price of ico and when this money is listed on the stock exchange, it's $2. Do not you sell it?

Guys, if the project really has prospects in the future and will be in demand in society, then its price will still be worthy, even after a certain time.  If we talk about the moments that cryptocurrency users get for free, how much percent of the total volume of coins is distributed free of charge?  I do not think that it is more than 3% or 5% and therefore I believe that this volume of coins cannot radically change the situation in the foreign exchange market in relation to a specific project.  In addition, there are projects where coins are blocked for a certain time to me, so that I can get out of this difficult situation.  But first of all, the team should work on the popularity of their project and on the implementation of their product.

Anyway, based on past experiences, you shouldn't invest in an ICO/IEO in a run-of-the-mill project in a bear market because it will truly dump once it gets listed on a popular exchange. There are more skeptical people in a bear market than rather a bull market. Only noobs buy a coin on exchange listing shilled by popular crypto influencers.

so are a pro trader and ico analyzer??
that's not just a factor why coin/token after listed on exchange always going down because developer don't want to buyback the token from market after listed and just want investor money and don't care about the future of that coin.

they are always make statement we don't have any control. it's market decision

You are absolutely right.  I always said that the developers themselves are primarily responsible for the problems of token pricing, because the team is only worried about collecting as many funds from investors as possible, but in no way does it avoid possible problems after listing.  There are such projects that find no way out of a difficult situation in order to preserve the value of the coin.  In this situation, for a team that lacks professionalism, it is very convenient to blame someone else, including the Bounty Hunters, for the drop in token prices after listing.

This is stupid, the developers and the team can not control the market price because it is illegal. There is a law preventing this from happening and there is no reason why would they need to do such a thing. Rome was not built in a single day and their product can not be done in a single day too. There are expenses that need to be paid, and it is their responsibility to handle it.
the reason why would we can see the dump after it got listed due to manipulation from the traders, this is not a secret. It happened so many times before, pressuring the price and then pump the price after they have a sufficient bag.

Many factors and no single one is the biggest,,, except the fact that 90% of investors in any token offering wants to make instant money because they know the invested in a quick rich project.

Projects like these also know that none of their users (or very few) are really interested in long term.

So everyone knows everyone is waiting for the dump, and want to dump before others.

I do not agree with you. There are many long-term investors who believe in the success of the project. There are those who buy coins and want to sell them by earning on the bonuses they received when buying, but they are not the ones who lower the price the most - they will not sell cheaper than they bought. But, it can be a mistake of the developers if they gave too large discounts.

I hope you can see what was happening in the market. This time a lot of long term investors have become the short term investors and that means if they are interesting to buy a coin with a lot of discount.
The discount will always there but with the existence of IEO and it looks like any IEO is not even offering a big discount again.
But the problem is the ICO and IEO traders will always there and you can call this party as the party who has brought the price of token to the bottom.
The majority of the IEO traders will be dumping their token if they are getting a decent return instantly from their money that already invested in the ICO or IEO

Early investors who had invested during the early stage of ICOs get more tokens due to ICO promotion. Most likely they cash out early to get their money back and to gain income. If you had been long in crypto and ICO the scenario in every project even if it's a sold out ICO once it gets listed it goes lower than it's ICO price.

That's true, that is the reason why some investors prefer to buy when the coin they are following hit the market, they know that it will not go up overnight, the platform would need to be created first before investors get their attention.
Legit project should not do airdrop it just lower the credibility of the coin, because these claimants will just dump it, there's a big difference between an investor and airdrop claimants.

This is quite natural behavior for tokens or coins. Each project needs time to develop. Usually it is several months, sometimes even a year or two. During this time, many investors - even those who previously planned a long-term investment, sell tokens for various reasons. The price increases only when the effects of the developers' work are visible. That is why it is a business for patient investors ...

But we have to think also that 1-2 years is long enough of a certain project to develop cause if it has already a working product, I'd never think that it will turn like this. That is why can't blame the investors to raise their complaints as in a certain thing that we would like to see returns from their hard work money. But what is the worst thing it happens is that they've got nothing but just losing at their ends.

This is why there are still big investors are afraid to put up some money here on crypto due for that reason.We've seen ICO and now we are
seeing currently the IEO's and when we do talk about profitability then less chances on what we do anticipated.Even legit projects doesnt end up
well even if they do already that working product.Why? they dont able to sustain nor develop even more because everything will vary on the demand,
if it isnt enough then expect for the project to be dead on a short span of time.

Crypto market fluctuations cannot be separated.  Therefore, it is very natural that exchanges and people remind traders and investors to always be careful in making decisions.
If this project can be developed it will increase the interest of traders, but a lot happens in a short time. The team needs more time and opportunities to achieve development targets.

The reason for the initial pump is usually the excitement that the coin has been added to a good exchange. It gives the coin more authenticity and the community trusts it more than before.

Like all other excitements there's an end to it, and when the hype decreases the price start dumping too. Although in many occasions price doesn't retrace 100%, and the exchange increases the value for a long time.

of course developer don;t have any control in market but in other position they can buyback the token if don't want to see the token price crash in market.

few developer do it to make planning to buyback token from market and burn them, like some project in Binance Launchpad the developer buyback the token and burn them, or we can follow Binance action to buyback Binance token when the token still based on ethereum and burn them, so the price still not crash in market

Price behavior of new Listings or IEOs are depended with the market conditions. All Exchanges try to find best projects for their users. Mostly for IEOS as the prices behavior of IEOs are directly effect the reputation of the exchanges.

By the way no exchanges can give you guaranteed for profit. As crypto includes high risk, you can make huge profit or lose everything.
For example till 2 months ago market was green and IEOs really made good profits. But last 2 months as the market is smelling bear, profit ratio decreased. Same situation is valid for Listings also.

The price is going down because the majority of holding the coin are dumping.
Once a coin got listed on major exchanges the majority will dump for profits.

I'm not sure we always see an initial price rise. The coins I've followed, they always drop straight away as soon as they are tradeable. Part of it is ICO buyers who received a big bonus cashing out, and part is bounty hunters selling as well. Fundamentally however I think its a question of supply and demand. If the coin doesn't hit hardcap at ICO, then supply is more than demand, and this creates downwards price pressure - there are simply more sellers than buyers.

Thats true,never hold after token release but sell immediattely after 2 weeks or 1 month when token has reached highest point.

The main reason i guest is from bounty hunters and other for early investors who has  bought token for much lower price than the current price and they think that was enough to leave and move to anther project.

Why do we always blame the crash of coins on bounty participants and we don’t learn to face reality? We have to be able to analyze things first before actually saying it. I don't know if you are a Christian, I am a Christian and we believe in something called tithe, tithe is something you pay to church as commanded by God which is 10 percent of your income, which is to be used in the church for different purposes.

If you take 10 percent out of your income, is that enough to crash your income or your future? No, 10% will not kill and this is exactly the case of hunters, hunters are being giving very low amount, and look at now that most projects don’t even pay again, how come they are still crashing if it was indeed a bounty participant? The big reward these projects give to their investor is the killer of their project that they don’t know.

Bounty hunters has nothing to do with the price fall of a project. The token allocated for bounty hunters is to small to affect the price. The major cause is when all the investors are dumping their tokens without anyone demanding for the token at the end

You are right. Upto the point of listing, value of coin is what project devs choose for ICO. But not every project sell all coins at that price. There are discounts, there are airdrops, there are bounties and what not. These free distributions dilute the price of coin. So when coin is listed on exchange for the first time, first line of sellers i.e. real investors start selling. But soon second line of sellers who got coins for no value start dumping their coins and price starts to fall.

simple because more people want to sell the token than to buy it, in the sense that people do not want to keep the token for a long time, meaning that the token only lasts a while.
different from tokens / coins that do have the interest of investors they will tend to buy again after release on the market because they know the potential of the coin.

Due to bonuses or discount the early investors get, sometime they tend to just left the bonus in the exchange and get their capital. Some only uses new projects in short trading to earn in a short span of time since they know it will be dumped if the project have no systematic way of improving it every now and then. Some alts tend to gain value due to hype or announcement of updates they will be doing and some investors since it just listed thinks it will be another long wait before they can gain on it, but its depends still on the project why it drops in price after being list.

Exactly, investors are the first group of people to push the trend of tokens into a downward trend because perhaps until now, potential projects have become too few, right now projects just like instant noodles, and of course, when we talk about instant noodles, we can understand that profits will quickly come and disappear soon, not taking advantage of opportunities that will cause damage. And certainly, groups of people receiving free tokens also understand this problem, if they don't sell early, they can only hold tokens that cannot be liquidated.

Yes, I totally agree with you, all of this has no effect on the bounty hunters, because they only get a small portion of the ration they have set, so the point is I think that there is a chance that their team gets a greater share of their own token distribution than with bounty hunters.

People couldn't be controlled on their desires to earn quicker profit after the project that they've invested, that's why each and every projects tend to fail eventually on their platform. There's no daily trading activities happening after listing of an ICO tokens or coins, because all investors we're all seeking to earn for an easy money. So the funds allocated for trading will be declining eventually, that's why the price became so cheap. No long term plans has been initiated, most people were hungry and greed for money.

I think the second opinion is more real and we often encounter it after an ico project is completed and the coins are listed on the exchange, and in fact humans are always thinking of getting big profits without regard to the consequences that will occur,
So when someone sees an opportunity they just think to immediately exchange it for money.

It seems to me that the price drop after the listing is due to the fact that no one believes in the value of coins in the future, since every investor, as well as the Bounty Hunter, only plans to make money on a certain project, and few people worry about the future of this company.  Recently, a lot of companies have announced that their tokens that they issued do not have a practical purpose.  Therefore, everyone is trying to get rid of these coins as soon as possible.

It’s not that investors don’t have confidence in any coin. If the price drops when adding a coin to the exchange, this may be due to a general crisis in the cryptocurrency market or trading speculations. Someone from a major player is trying to artificially reduce the price of a cryptocurrency asset.

After listing on the exchange the price of a coin should increase, but we are seeing in the reverse form after listing the coin price will decrease because most of the investors will look for short term profits, they won't bother about their future returns. So there are very few people who have strong faith will hold the coins.

Any investor or bounty hunter can check that the project is good or not because if the project is not working well, they will tend to sell more. Most people in this market are interested in profits because any project will have its own risks and we should not trust their promises. I think if you can ensure profits in that project, you will not have to worry too much and can completely leave that project if you want.

Some projects are intended to be scam from the beginning and if you are lucky to sell at a good price, it will be very beneficial to you. Of course the lucky rate is only 2% in this market and should not be expected too much for bad projects.

Because people are always willing to sell their ico coins less than what's on the market, the selling power will always be greater than the buying power unless in rear circumstances.

because those people that you have mentioned are investing without trust on the project instead what they trust is the profit after the ICO and nothing more
this is the problem if the projects are generics and no potential,the investors are only riding to profit and not to be with the team in future
so the main affected are the Hunters and those who want to stay  holding
what also happen this days are the supposedly holders are selling right away when the coins are listed in exchange and this also made the new coins now dying and others are almost no value at all

The reason for the same is free distribution of coins by the projects. When distributing coins as free air-drops what do they expect, coin will become like Bitcoin? Projects must treat their coin with some respect and try adding premium to it so that the value of coin boom once it listed on exchange.

Yess...
also that coin don't have value at all, maybe they get from airdrop. So they will sell it, they don't care the coin is good or not in the future.
The developer in the next must try make it like exclusive edition not like oxygen, everyone can get it for free.

It was supposed to be like that but somehow, some of the developers are too greedy to think about more, more money to come rather than of creating a project that could help the entire crypto community. More project becomes devalued because there totally nothing but just garbage. We have flooded already with those projects and with the existence of IEO project will lessen the scamming ICO projects in the future.

Because all people that got the ieo tokens directly sell all their tokens in higer price.
People who buy it will regret in a week or more because the tokens is unwanted, people are aiming for the next IEO.
So for me, IEO is not good for a new project, people are just want quick profits

Although you may feel that IEO is not good for new projects when people are only interested in the returns they get when the project is listed but even if you are not happy about it, you should still accept this as a way for the market to grow, shift and balance, if IEO does not happen to new projects, projects will be very retarded, investors will lose interest, a dead market will quietly appear. The price reduction can only be said that the project lacks potential and manpower, it is only recognized as potential when it maintains its market position.

It's true. Most people who got coins from an IEO sell their parts right away in exchange of coins with higher potential like Bitcoin and Ethereum. I guess they have learned from their experiences because new coins drop their price easily so holding it would only result in losses. Most people who join IEOs and ICOs or even investors are now afraid to hold new coins and that's the reality. So new projects must attract and provide an assurance of having a good gain to their investors.

I think not only those two factor is main reasons to price down in the behind. Pre-sell bonus will offers all of the projects but over bonus is something affected for the price. Bounty pool is another big reason for price dropp because hunters always try to sell first because most of them panic seller. If coin will be added in the low quality exchanges definitely this is one of the other big reason.     

In fact, a drop in prices occurs because there are more sellers than buyers. Who sells in such cases? As a rule, these are bountists, airdroppers, as well as large holders. Usually usually bought by other traders and the exchange.

Actually at the time of listing you will find more number of buying than selling. Investors are huge in numbers at the time of sale but when it is getting listed you will find buyers in very less numbers.

So if you are wise, please sell the tokens as soon as possible to make returns in a proper way.

It’s too late to sell anything. I became a holder. Now my altcoins are worth a penny, most likely they will all die and I will never get rid of them. It is unfortunate that at the time of 2018 I did not understand this.

Less? you know nothing about that and you need more education. Less liquidity in the market create a big spread between the buy and sell order. When someone wanna sell his coin but there is not a lot of order in the market and that guy will create a big dump caused by the big gap on the buy order site doesn't enough to cover the amounts that will be dumped by the guy.

Some participants are no longer appreciated the beauty of the commodity of the project but they are all for sure earnings that is why they will join the project in which not because of the platform or the beauty of the product but they are on the huge bonuses offered during sales and dump then quickly after the unlock in the exchanges.

Because everyone wants quick profits, so when coin listings are exchanged, people will compete to sell coins he holds. Automatically
the price will go down because the price is dumped, and coins that do not have strong fundamentals will become shit coin. But I will
not blame anyone for this, because everyone has the freedom to do what considered correct. The fact is people will not care about
the future of the new coin listing, including the holders. What is in everyone's mind is just profit.

Pretty much. Hype makes the price go high. As soon as the dust settles, those prices fall like rocks. That's why I don't particularly like investing in altcoins, at all. Maybe a handful, but definitely not more than that.

But what about the X? Everyone goes for altcoins to make many X and earn Bitcoin or ETH. You need to buy only when the price has settled already and the bottom will be visible.

The main thing is certainly due to the huge bonus when the sale resulted in a decrease in the price of the new Altcoin listing and should be during the initial listing period when having a bounty dev campaign must hold the bounty to be shared gradually or other solutions so that this also does not trigger the decline deeper prices

Seems the effects of these bonuses to seed investors, private sale, pre-sale and ICO/IEO investors largely go unnoticed. Assuming the team didn't dump and no airdop or bounty distribution was done after listing, it's either bonus holders have dumped or the who community are dumping due to FUD

I dint think any investor would want to sell lesser than what he bought because that is foolishness to have even invested in the first pace and I think that it is profit that usually driver majority of them to quickly dump their coin, and you know that it is first come first serve, and virtually most people that participate in ICO now wants to just do so for a short term purpose, so you see virtually all the investors that has bought at ICO price immediately go on sell the moment it enters an exchange.

It was in the past that investors used to be encouraged to stay with a project for a very long time, but they also started dumping their coin after we realized that there are some projects too that the developer will purposely dump unsold token on the market just to get rid of the projects, thereby crashing the price.

this is usually the influence of bounty campaigns who sell their coins at low prices and eventually make prices fall as you say, but usually not everything is like that and usually influenced by platforms that are developed not so good so it makes the price of newly registered coins fall quickly.

yes, most people sell their tokens after the coins are distributed so that it can affect the decline in the market price of the coin itself. in addition, there are other reasons that cause a decrease in the value of a coin because someone intentionally made a purchase in a large enough amount at the lowest price and usually it is done by the project team itself to be able to play the price

People use to sell the tokens and cryptocurrency when the time listing starts everyone believing that price will be dropped due to high selling point, so all the people doing the same.
Only exchanges alone can give the control over the selling point at the early stage. Due to paid listing they gives the leverage to them.

The same hype occurs for all new coins, high demand is not a reference to the actual price and this also happens to all coins that experience a breakout. There is always a saturation period due to overbought and traders selling it simultaneously after reaching the highest price according to their target. those affected are traders who are just learning this trend and think of it as a trap, but they must also understand that ICO prices are not benchmarks of actual starting prices in current trends.

some problems

• The project failled, if the developer can't running his roadmap, im sure the project will be failed
• Just Sell it, its a big issue, after IEO/ICO ended the market usually investor will be seing the progress, if the progress slowly, and investor not tipically long term, they will just sell it even he get lost
• No inovation, i think after listing the developer must have "implementation" of his project, so new investor can buy the coin/token after listing market to use it in platform

The fall in the price of tokens or coins after being listed on the exchange was caused by large sales made by investors. Before tokens are distributed to bounty hunters, investors already get tokens in their wallets. So don't be surprised why a price reduction occurs when a token is already listed on the exchange, Such conditions are unavoidable, large sales will continue to occur as long as the investor still holds the token, with requests in low quantities the token price will automatically go down.

It is true that part is due to the large sales of airdrops and bounties, but also it is done by investors who buy in large quantities. The team should have a strategy to prevent this and use some funds to repurchase it so that the price is not too severe so there is a price force for the project

You're totally mistaken because the last time i checked 11% of total supply token was the highest percentage most project used for airdrop and bounties and i don't see any reason any investors to be interested in doing something that will affect the project he invested in. With that been said, early miners who  usually lead to dump in pricofe  most new project after exchange listing are

There can be different reasons depends from coins to coins some might not have real value, some are hunted by whales and they make the price drop a lot so they can get more and more coins, and some are just dumped by most people.

For each and every move that is happening negative with the cryptocurrency market can't be related with the whales activities. It is the project, the development, the teams active involvement and different other factors decide the market value of the respective token. Sometimes it is termed that bounty hunters as the reason for the price dumping. If everything is perfectly executed with minimum viable product automatically price will increase.

benycoin, you have to see bittrex IEOs history (you can still see some of them on coinmarketcap or other), before they removed their IEO tokens from their platform,,, after the first handful, the later ones all actually listed BELOW their sale price. So this meant that investors lost money immediately other than the ones who got it for free I guess as these were the ones who dumped.

So beware IEOs as people still get super cheap tokens or even free from private deals or bounties before IEO.

True, every token / coin whose price down after listing in exchanges has different reasons, but the more common reason is that investors / communities don't trust the project, so they prefer to leave it. because if investors still have confidence in the project, of course they will continue to hold the token until they get a profit

If investors don't believe in a project, I don't think they will invest in the project
I don't think that makes sense, more reasonable reasons have already been mentioned by the thread creator

It's not a problem that causes tokens to fall down after being listed in exchange. Today investors are very smart and careful in investing, so if they don't trust the project then of course they will skip it at the first step. The real reason for the token to fall is because the market doesn't support altcoin. People who have the psychology of wanting to make a profit very quickly so they will quickly panic all after being listed, holding altcoin in the current period is suicide.

I think your first point is quite strong than second point. What I observed from the markets, most of IEO tokens/coins no have real uses so we can't expect real value as well. Real concept is one of most important part of a projects. How a token or coin going to use that's the main point of real use or real value. But unfortunately before IEO team has been providing good real concept before IEO, but after raised fund they are not bothering to develop their concept. And that's the main reason why price droped after IEO or when listed on exchange.

Regarding your second point, airdrop token can't dump price like that. Most of people try to buy token after IEO because they want get back 2x by trading. When they start exit from that coin/token then price start instant dumping. This dump mostly time happend due whales accumulation. They need profits somehow.

It is true that huge holders are selling which makes the value of the token lower. The significance of it has been seen with the ICOs and with IEOs. Remember how the hype is if the IEO is coming from Binance and you know what's happening next after that?
The price drop comes and everybody is chasing to make money while they can before the remaining they hold will have a decreased value.

the most correct reason is that the project itself has no value, imagine if the project is indeed very valuable, surely the price of the token will be good too.
furthermore, maybe because too many token supplies were made, I mean the supply of tokens from a project. In the past, the total supply alone was no more than 5 million tokens, now up to millions or even hundreds of millions. it's clear that the price will be very cheap and eventually become shitcoin.
that is the reason why prices down after listing on the exchange.

Now I think investors have become smarter and not easy to believe in scam projects like what happened in several ICOs last year. And now there are fewer successful projects and of course, it's better than many projects but scams.

I've seen a number of projects like you said, they are constantly changing the supply and even changing the names of crypto and creating an exchange rate for investors, since the value of the project will probably go down many times and people have already predicted that situation, investors who bought early have continuously dumped as soon as listed to recover the capital they have put in. The reason that can be added is that the projects are too eager to attract capital, increasing the bonus is too big for investors, it creates a basis for investors to control prices, destroy projects

The big sell off that created by investors didn't always mean if the investors are not trusting the project again. You can see some IEOs on binance were getting big sell off in the past and investors are not leaving such market caused by investors are only doing pump and dump to the coin. That's the real motive why there will be a dump after listing.

The main reason is because those people who get the coins free (from airdrops or bounty) and the people who already got the profits will sell it instantly and when the seller is more than the buyers, price must be dropped, and also the other reason is, there are too many coins, people are hard to choose so when they have a chance to have more than one coins, they will move from one to another just to make quick profits

I think there are three main reason that make coin dump when listing on exchange:
1. Listing during bear market
2. Sell too much coins which make a small bump may make the marketcap too high, so there no reason to bump
3. Project did not good on marketing

a) yea, these coins have no value which leads us to:
b) everyone dumps them as soon as possible
as for b) this is not only people who got them by airdrops but mainly founders and also ICO participants/bounty winners which just look to dump it and move on to another project which will give them some pre calculated $ value.

There are only a few projects that has real usage. Some coins get hyped only from the start that causes a sudden rise of value once listed on exchange then value goes down and rarely recovers. To earn in crypto, timing is important. Some tokens recover but some takes time.

Very often, the reason for the immediate drop in price after listing on exchange is bad token policy. A very large number of tokens for airdrop, bounty campaign and distributed to people for free at events means that in a bad market situation it is enough that even a small number of owners change their mind and at the moment of sale sharply lower the price. I think tokens distributed for free or in a bounty campaign should be blocked for a few months to avoid dropping the price right after the listing event.

Unfortunately, but the projects that have been listing on exchanges over the past two years have mainly been losing their value very quickly due to the fact that it was a very long bear market period and investors lost confidence in ICO / IEO / STO projects.
However, it is also important that the project needs time to develop after collecting money. Often it is several months or longer. During this time, investors may want to withdraw money and sell tokens. This causes the price to fall initially and rise after time, when the project succeeds.

You are right, timing is very important in crypto once after listing in exchange sudden the price of a coin will increase and suddenly the value of the coin goes down and it will take a lot of time to recover its price. Based on the developments some coin price will increase and some will go to zero.

I've seen it on a small exchange when the token only takes less than five days to become zero immediately after listing, but I forgot the name of the token, maybe the same coin as you mean. nothing is certain about whether this trend will change, especially when the price recovery process is back to the ico prices, because all are still holding on to the declining altcoin trend.

Sadly this the fact of how things are now. The older projects has already lost its investors due to the price keep loosing its value all because the bear market that too long.

Even for a new project than just got listed, the price was rapidly decreased it was all due to the investors were afraid that they'll lose their chance to sell the coin when it's already too late and they have no other choice other than losing more money or hodl and waiting for miracles that never comes.

the first reason in my opinion is more appropriate because even though they have airdrops but their products are real the market demand will increase. It can also be that early investors have a very large bonus when buying

Unfortunately a lot of project for now only offer ideas, the product they create after end of token sale. And beside it, there are no guarantee if their product will launched especially if they focus on listed their token on exchange. And mostly project's token price down after listed is because there are an exchange which investor sell their coins especially early investor who get a lot of bonus.

As I know, most of the IEO projects at Binance are profitable for investors but after that period of time the coin is continuously decreasing making those investors lose money so before joining IEO, need to consider carefully. In 2019 a lot of IEO projects are successful, but the amount to make a profit from this investment is very small and some IEO scam projects are appearing at a lot of other exchanges.

Personally, I only invest when it is a project that many investors are interested in and will try to participate if possible because there are not many opportunities to make profits in this market.

Unfortunately, but you are right, this is also a common mistake on the part of developers. It's not that early investors shouldn't have bonuses, but being able to buy tokens for 5% of the ICO price is way too much. If they do such a thing, with such a big discount these tokens should be blocked for at least a year or two.

Why people think that just because the coin got listed on an exchange is enough a reason for the price to increase? That's never the case. The actual demand sets the price and usually new coins that is the ICO tokens fail to attract any volume at all. This is one of the reason I don't invest during the ICO and tend to wait till it gets listed on an exchange even if I like the project. Whether the project is good or not but for an investor returns matter more anyday.

I think everyone has noticed it. The question in this thread is why this is happening. In a way, you answered that question because in fact one of the main reasons is that there is no demand. There is no demand because there are no investors and there are no investors because we have two years of bear market.

Yes it is true but not only those two, there are allot of reasons behind this. There will be "angel investors", who had bought early and will sell their tokens, there may be bounties and they used to sell at certain price. People dont believe in hodling for a long time now.

It has also become a big problem that many projects have not exchanged collected cryptocurrencies for fiat money. Unfortunately, but through the long bear market they lost funds and simply had to fall. This made investors scared even more and began to sell their shares for pennies. At the moment, the market must stabilize and slowly regain investor confidence, this is the only way.

Most tokens and coins, on their first instance of getting listed on an exchange, appreciate in value.

If a particular token or coin goes the opposite direction after a listing then it would suggest that investors have very little confidence in the project and does cause concern about the long term potential of the coin.

It could also just be a coin with very limited liquidity that has been overvalued in the OTC market. That could also be a possibility.

So it would be to blame for the fact that the token simply has no value, which is why investors do not trust and withdraw.

I don't know if I understand correctly what you mean by "overvalued"?

I would say that the worst mistake for ICO projects is bad tokeneconomics. If developers allocate too many tokens for marketing and do not secure it in any way (for example, by temporary lock), partners and other people not associated with the project will want cash out right after listing on exchange. This is where the immediate price drop usually comes from.

If you mean early bird investors who bought a bag before the launch of token sale, these investors have the interest to dump the tokens on the listed exchanges. They also favour price in their interest, pre-sale prices are much lower than ICO price. Holders don't have this opportunity to take the same gain as the pre-sale investors.

Yes, it is true.
But in my opinion there are also several other factors. Example :
1. The project was indeed made for hit and run
2. Marketing projects that are not good
3. List on shit exchange
4. The project is a project shit

because as soon as the hype ends, there is nothing stays and most of the holders and investors are aimed to sell out as soon as possible after the hype ends. it is always like this both in icos and ieos

The market situation certainly had a great impact on investors reactions, but I think that a much bigger problem was the lack of education. People who had no idea of ​​fundamental analysis or even investing bought tokens without thinking. When the situation began to be worse, they sold without thinking and this collapsed ICO prices.

so it's better not to follow the hype because it is dangerous, it's better to look for projects that really have a future because if you invest in it, your funds are at stake and you need to be careful when you put your funds in.

Investors who bought just to sell quickly are irresponsible and inexperienced people. Every good investor knows that the money invested in strtup pays for itself within a few months at the earliest. If someone only looked at market behavior, not project development, he definitely lost. It is because of such irresponsible investors that the price drops right after listing on the exchange.

The second reason is quite ridiculous, because they are always allocated the latest and they only follow what the investors have done. if it was a good token then the investors would not have sold it so, the bounty hunters only followed them. Therefore, the first reason is the main reason, speculators here understand that alts that are strongly fomo just want to manipulate the price of their tokens. This is very familiar in the crypto market and we should accept it, it's different from the stock market here. ;)

not the right reason is that large investors who buy on ICO or pre ICO programs who sell coins at the beginning of listing on the market, a gift from aidrop will not make the price of coins go down too deep because the amount is slightly different from the results of investors' purchases

I understand that you are talking about big bonuses for early investors? This is also a very big problem, but it is not the investors fault, because they only want to make money. It is the fault of the developers who planned the sale of tokens wrongly and gave too big bonuses at the beginning of the sale.

But that is one of the strategies of the developer to attract investors by giving a large bonus at the beginning of the sale, I think there is nothing wrong. I know everyone has a different opinion in terms of investment or the price drops when listing on the market.

Of course, developers have the right to give bonuses they want. Of course, encouraging investors is also very important. However, the good of the project should be the most important. If they decide to give huge bonuses, tokens should be blocked for at least a few months, so that they are not sold immediately after entering the exchange and do not lower the real price.

I don't understand, what do you mean, that bounty hunter competition is an investor? In my opinion, when the price of a token drops after it goes public, the investor loses much more than the person who give his free time to promoting the project. Of course, we all lose the same amount, but I don't know why the bounty hunter and investor would compete in whoever sells first?

Long-term investing is really risky and it's best not to hold it for the time being as any coin can drop unexpectedly if not careful. In addition, long-term investment will make you psychologically affected if the market falls and this is a problem that everyone has to face. However, you can hold Bitcoin or Ethereum because these are two safe choice at this stage.

After the asset is listed, the price is determined by market participants. At the initial stage, the price falls as early investors try to take a little profit quickly. If there is great investor demand for a coin, the project has a prospect, then in theory the price will rise.

It is simple, no demand, when we have more sellers than buyers then the price dumped. Most of these tokens enters market with crazy valuation and no one wants to buy them at that price, just look at Blockstack and Hashgraph recently their price has been on downward slope because of valuation

This is exactly the case, but for there to be demand the project must have a great idea, a professional dev team and market conditions must be favorable. Unfortunately, but topics like these are created because the ICO / IEO market has simply collapsed. Investors are no longer interested in this type of project. This is the main reason why prices are falling and why projects are closing.

Any project will have a down and this is predictable because investors often seek newness when joining this market. I think altcoin should only be considered as a short-term investment and should be considered for sale when it is profitable because the longer you hold it, you will definitely face a lot of big risks.

In addition, it is also necessary to be careful with new projects because the initial price increase mostly depends on whales, so investors are easy to become victims.

Dump after being get listed is already a normal thing to happen yet we know that profit taking would happen mainly by its investors.Only good projects would able to survive after such dump and yes it will vary on the demand of the coins because no matter or how hard being dumped it will surely have the chance to revive and bounce back but its still a questionable thing because even coins that are good doesnt even guarantee on increasing its price.
Therefore all things are still not guarantee here on crypto space.

i think let us not generalized the altcoins because there are already existing altcoins that is profitable and been trusted for long time like ethereum,litecoin.ripple and Binance so there are still plenty of them that can be considered for long term investments or Holding is what they called.
and in this i agree because new projects are shits and cannot be trusted(maybe there is few in a million) but yet not worth investing for.because all the services and products that altcoin can offer had already existing so the uniqueness is not there .

This has been one of the oldest problems ALL coins have faced in many many years. Back in the day there was no IEO no ICO and no nothing on previously funding a coin before they come out. You think someone paid litecoin funding to create it? There was no funding for LTC, nor ETH nor any other old coin honestly, it just released one day and start existing without any previous money required for it.

All of those coins were mined via their own wallets for weeks on out by people who got in early until real miners took over, and all that money we mined were standing in our hands waiting to be sold for weeks, as soon as that coin get listed anywhere, we rushed to create an account and sell it there right away dropping the price insanely. Now, it is 7-8 years later and we still do the same thing, just faster instead of waiting months for it.

Demand and supply will always be the main things to determine the price of the coin. This is the rule in the economic when you are playing in the market. Crypto is a little bit different consider it has no regulation and the manipulation can happen anytime. The downfall of the coin after listing can be created by the whales too. It's a bit difficult to know is that caused by the manipulation or determined by the market.

One reason in my opinion is because investors and Bounty Hunter are directly selling their tokens after listing in Exchange. I agree with some projects that hold the distribution of tokens to investors or bounty Hunter, or distribute them in stages so that prices can be maintained on the Exchange.

I think not all cases will fit mainly into those two reasons because primarily, there are a lot of contributing factors to consider why a coin dumps its price after getting listed into an exchange. You have got the point that maybe that coin has no real value that is why the price dumps right after getting into an exchange but some coins experience dump because of the case with regards to the popularity when it is being promoted or advertised. Maybe, it has not reach into a big group of people to know about the coin due to the fact that there are already lots of existing coins within the market so it is hard to see and define which are the new ones that deserve to be purchased to raise the volume when it comes to demand to rise up the price value of a certain coin listed on an exchange. The problem on publicizing the coin will be a great challenge for the creators to let other people know about the coin to gain demands to be able to make the price rise because even if a coin is really that good, if the crowd doesn't know about it, and there is no demand for it, the price will really go down once it has already done the listing process for an exchange. So the strategy on promoting the coin will be a great key to gain attention which will brought up demands that will make the price value rise.

It doesnt happen to all the coins. There are many coins whose price gets doubled or tripled when it lists on a reputed exchange.
If there was a bounty and if that was distributed early then most of the bounty hunters are bound to sell these days, also there may be investors who are planning to cash out their profit.

Most projects (and they should have all) have a roadmap, and everyone should be familiar with it before investing money. If developers don't do what is in whitepaper, then it's either a scam or someone didn't check the project good enough and given money to irresponsible people.
If someone sells tokens before achieving at least the basic assumptions of the project, it means that he did not know in what and why he was investing.

the both reasons is true. but the greatest reason who really make price down so fast that number two is many bounty hunters sell their coins after launched on the market, bounty hunters sell their coins as quickly as possible because ussually after coins launched the price of coins very high and make seller get big profit if they are selling coins as quickly as possible than hold for longer

I have seen many times the coin was listed on exchange and its price dropped, and the bounty hunters have not yet received their rewards. Often, developers give tokens to partners, for example, ICOrating websites without being blocked for a certain period of time. Not only bounty hunters are the reason for the drop in price, but all who get tokens for free like in airdrop, or for services like partners.

Many projects do not have any airdrop or bounty before being listed. But after the exchange, the price quickly dropped many times compared to the IEO price, so I guess the price is not affected by airdrops and bounty. The price depends on the needs of the investor and if the investor does not need to buy those tokens,  surely the price will collapse.

As long as the coin has enough liquidity and it can be prevented and this has already proven so many times. The problem is we can't even trust all of the developers to hold or give more delay to open the contract or unlock the tokens. We have faced so many times the developers have dumped their tokens to the market while investors or even the hunters didn't get even a single coin.

For the price to fall, it's not enough that nobody wants to buy, but someone has to want to sell. The question is, who sells it at such a low price?

In my opinion, developers sell tokens at too low price for early investors - sometimes up to 95% cheaper than the ICO price. It is obvious that if the ICO price is, for example $1, and the early investor bought for $0.05, even if he sells for $0.10, he has a 100% profit. But in fact, the price drops by 90%

Developers are doing everything to encourage investors. Unfortunately, but they often make very bad decisions. Therefore, when choosing a project in which we want to invest, we must check the dev team and its achievements very well. Unfortunately, but to avoid falling prices after entering the exchange, the economy of tokens should be prepared by experts, not people with a good idea but without experience.

I agree with for first reason
but for second reason I disagree because tokens for airdrop is only zero point percent or one percent so it can't be a trigger for dump
Another possible reason for dump is that bonus given to the initial investor is too large

And I do not agree with both of you, because the token at the beginning almost always has no value. Its value increases with the development of the project, and it always lasts at least a few months. It is rare for a project to collect money when it has a finished product that adds value to the project and his token.

even i dont agree ,sometimes its not always what you think,  in my own opinion why price down after listing in exchanges its because investors wants immediate profit and then buy back at lower price, hold the coin for atleast  month till the price recover.

Even without an airdrop our bounty system, most coins will be dumped at the initial exchange listing. This is because there have been people accumulating the coins for however long with no where else to sell them off. Plus, since there hasn't even been an exchange for the coin, it probably isn't all that popular so accumulating it is probably fairly easy. I've seen a few people that mine new coins when they first come out and hold them until an exchange listing and do pretty well on it.

Most of the coins I know have a very good development plan, but when listed at big exchange, the value of that coin has only decreased and that makes me very nervous when choosing to invest. I think if this situation is not solved, investors will be very afraid to participate and will certainly affect their profits. In fact, I would love to invest in new projects but maybe I should consider carefully before making a decision.

Of course, this is a time for new projects but I will only choose to invest when the value of that coin is higher than the original price.

This has certainly been the case in recent months, maybe even from around mid-2018. Earlier, in 2017, the situation was different, it was worth buying tokens at the ICO, because if the project was good, then often immediately after entering the exchange its price increased. At a time when a large number of scams appeared, investors began to leave the market and prices began to fall.


Like I wrote in the answer above, the situation now is different, but we always should to consider our investment on the basis of a good analysis of the project .. Although this sometimes does not help also.

it happen in some coins of ico not all ico project. in above i said that the both reasons is true but the greatest reason is number two. in this case maybe because reason number one the coins or token has no real value and make token price dropped before the coins distributed to bounty hunters or the bounty hunters not sell their coins yet

I think that both points do not have a direct relationship with each other. The investment in ICO is a long-term investment, and in my opinion people who received payment in tokens wanted to do cash out as soon as possible, regardless of whether the project will be successful or not. If tokens given away for free or with very large dyscount were blocked for several months, in many cases it would be possible to avoid a price dump.

I agree to this. This is the reality of what is happening to a coin or a token. Although not all coins are affected, we know that this is really happening in real life. I guess we need to think of a way that will not affect the token's value or price. I think we need a work-around pr contingency plan when the bounty hunters and investors sell their token or coin immediately after the campaign.

The most important thing to have a coin's sustainable growth is that investors could see its value that is somehow not seen in many of today's ventures. Developers never have anything to do as a long-term plan, they're always pretending to be optimistic, so they believe it's enough to be included in an exchange that doesn't even have legit volume. That's why most of the new coins dump straight away after the listing.

Not necessarily those who distribute gradually will keep prices because there are many projects that do that, but prices in the market still experience a big dump

Any project is risky and the development of those projects will determine the price of that coin when listed. In fact, the bear market is the main reason why those coins are down and investor sentiment is only concerned about profits, so it will be difficult to make a profit. In my opinion, there are not many solutions to avoid this and should limit investment in new projects because the risk will be very high.

Personally, I only buy when that coin is listed at the big exchange and will wait a few days to know exactly what will happen next.

If investors do as like you said, "sell immediately and buy back at a lower price" this indicates that investors high optimism about the future of the project. this is a good sign ....

So why do we have to hold the coins till the prices recover?
wouldn't it be more profitable if we implemented the same strategy?

I know  :) long-term investment is totally different from short-term trading
But the purpose of everything is profit, right ...
long term, short term or medium term is just a strategy to maximize profits
In the crypto world we must quickly adapt to all possibilities so that our money is not lost
There are times when we have to think as "smart investors" and there are times when we have to think as traders. IMHO

BTT, I don't really care who caused the dump but I just focus finding loopholes profit from every condition

Actually, I don't know what this has to do with the fact that after listing on exchange, the prices of tokens fall ...?

Anyway, in my opinion, it's very stupid if an investor sells something with the idea that he buys back cheaper. Thinking in this way, even after buying cheaper, the price should go down more, so it's quite a strange investment strategy.

some new tokens that hold bounty campaigns will indeed experience a situation like this. price reduction after being registered was very reasonable. but investors' thoughts are always different. they have strong planning and analysis to invest in new projects. to sell immediately will not be done to investors who support the project. the decline is mostly due to bounty hunters who sell their gifts at low prices. and that gets worse when the situation makes investors who panic then follow it.

no airdrop reward , does not make the price go down, what makes the price of the token go down is the bonus of investors' purchases at pre ICO and ICO because the token purchase bonus is usually large above 30% for every investor who buys

A lot of people think the price collapse after being listed in exchanges is due to bounty and airdrop. But that is not an exact reason, in 2019 there are many projects without airdrops and bounty but the price still decreases after being listed. The reason is that the bear market affects all altcoins, and traders are not interested in new altcoins and do not want to keep it in the long term. So once listed at the exchange, all will be dumped

Dumping will definitely happen, but if the strongly supported coins and developers are persistent in continuing to increase the tokens they issue, the demand and supply will at least be well linked. So if the relation doesn't go well then it'll just keep the price dropping without high demand, the token won't be able to have a worthy value and that's become a concern so far.

Dumping will definitely happen, but if the strongly supported coins and developers are persistent in continuing to increase the tokens they issue, the demand and supply will at least be well linked. So if the relation doesn't go well then it'll just keep the price dropping without high demand, the token won't be able to have a worthy value and that's become a concern so far.

The problem is that the tokens are not blocked at least until they reach the first planned point from the roadmap. In the current market situation, investors do not buy tokens until they make sure that developers will fulfill their promises, so even a small amount of tokens is enough to significantly reduce the price, because there is deficit of buyers. I think the most important thing is to plan the allocation of tokens for marketing at the time of ICO and block them for a certain period of time.

There was a time in this market in which people invested in a project because they believed in the project and that is why they held their coins, they mined some of it and those that could found bugs and improved the wallet and the coin itself, those days are over, people want to obtain profits, it is that simple, and they are not going to hold their coins waiting for the price to recover, they will sell and get their profits and if they can buy at a cheaper price in the future they will do it only if they believe there is a possibility to make some money.

yeah true.  a lot of EIO projects really has no real value. it make dump after launched even before people sell their coins so this conditions make people who participate in the projects lose their money especially investor. based that make investor not interest to invest in EIO again because not profitable anymore

my opinion it is normal because now we are in a very bad situation, even falling prices occur on all coins. but the most influential to the fall of the token after listing is investors who sell all the bonuses they get when buying on a private sale or pre sale

I don't accept it was normal on all the platform, because most of the projects are failing, because of spam and scam projects. But potential projects are stay positive response on after listing the exchanges. All the top projects are hold the private sale so huge volume investors are stay backward on top projects. They only decide the further pump and dump at the same time potential projects are never selling immediately because they know the future pump on crypto projects.

demand always comes bigger at first intentionally or unintentionally, especially for coins that have high initial bidding prices, this has become a trend in the world of crypto trading because there is nothing that can pressure prices to at least be stable beforehand, everything is still determined by random supply and demand, it is better to be involved only after the original price is formed after the short speculation ends.

I don't think coins that have high trades today change so much. and we can see the coin chart on the market. it will not be difficult to see the chart of the top coins, just analyze the coin chart movement that requires skill.

I think the main reason why some of the coins is going its price down after listing in exchange is that the investors tend to sell it straight away. The supply of that coin in the exchange will rise up that will cause for its price to go down. Simple supply and demand. When the consumer has a lower demand into it but the exchange has a higher supply, its price will for surely low.

If I'm not wrong, with most cases the price drop once after the listing on exchanges were mostly due to the decisions from the investors. If the projects weren't provided with proper funding and not listed to the right exchanges there will be continued drop in the value. In some cases it will be manipulated by the investors holding large volume. So there isn't any perfect reason for the price drop once after listing on exchanges.

Airdrop event will not be removed because this is the best way to promote in social media, And we know that airdrop hunters participating just to get penny. Investors bonus is too much influenced end of the day. Bounty token locked for several months, so here hunters cannot influenced in the coin dumping. Now all of project will dead for listing in shit exchanges.                

That's a joke. So many spam in airdrop and that's the worst way to promote a platform or project. Too much spam on airdrop. The investors bonus becomes another problem too but as long as the developer can list the coin to the a good exchange site and that's enough to prevent the bonus that has already given to the investors but that is not about to prevent the airdrop hunters by dumping their tokens.

Bounty Hunter seems to only work to make people aware of a project. and for the next step, it is indeed the task of marketing projects that will have an important work of an investor investing or not.

If investors sell tokens bought during ICO immediately after listing on exchanges, it means that they bought tokens only for speculation and not because of the real value of the project. The project gains value only when it starts to realize the planned goals. This usually happens after a few to several months. Unfortunately, but often because of the wrong decisions of developers who give high bonuses to attract investors, the price at the beginning drops very rapidly.

Look at projects that have working mainnets, deliver their milestones all before launch, then continue too after launch

TemTum launched on coinall nearly a year ago - gone 3x and just added liquid exchange and still stable and increasing !

Pick projects on results and technology than hype

Not in my experience however,,, most bounty hunters are just spamming and broadcasting on social media to the same group of followers. So there are actually no new people being aware. In fact, because of the style the hunters spam, new people might even see the project being promoted as a scam.

Investors should be blame on why price of a coin down after listing it on exchange because they want immediate profit and then buy back when they knew the price hits its bottom.  Or another thing is the coin is a shitcoin ,it is also one reason why a coin price dump when hits exchange

Usually, if the project is weak, it fails to enter the exchange, because it is not able to collect even a softacap. If the project is good enough to raise the necessary funds for its development, then investors should not sell tokens immediately after entering the exchange, because they should know that startups need time to increase their value. I think there is no one reason why this happens. Most likely, this situation occurs through a combination of developer errors in giving away free tokens and incorrect assessment of investors.

Getting listed in various exchanges are not a matter. Is the project plan to list the the shit exchanges which doesn't have any volume for BTC or top cryptocurrency then definitely it will sink for sure in price aspects.
For those reasons project should list the the tokens in Big exchanges and they should be ready to spare their money to get it listed.

You are exactly correct the first thing is that the number of users that received the payment for their bounty or advertisement program will sell all their tokens at any prices since they want an assurance that their works will be paid at any cost of amount, second thing is that probably the project is a disaster (But some of them have a working platform) a third reason I think is that many investors sets a buying price at low price to have a discounted price of the coin and the bounty hunters will probably accept that price since they want payment assurance.

Unfortunately, but if the project does not have huge funds, to be listed on big exchanges (because these are very high costs), it should not happen that its price only decreases. I am not saying that this is not the reason, however investors should not react negatively. It is often the case that the team prefers to spend money on project development rather than on exchange. And this should be seen as positive and responsible behavior.

Do not forget about such a simple reason as pumping a coin, this is a “feature” of the cryptocurrency market, it uses exchange mechanisms and trading bots.

In any case, there are such projects that try to control the price of their coins and they succeed.  Although I don’t know where this path of manual regulation of the market price will lead, since this applies primarily to new cryptocurrency exchanges.  As an example, I can cite the BCNEX project, where for quite a long time their coin has been at the price level of $ 0.12.

It's usually a case of the ponzi structure for most.  There generally is no point for all these coins so yes they go up a little bit based on people initially seeing if they can make profit but once the sell off comes it's a true bank run everytime and nobody wants to be left holding a pointless bag. 

when a coin goes to exchange, it suddenly loses the value because of the so called dumpers  ;D ;D.. but we cannot blame them as they invest their money on that project.

Where the dumpers get a lot of coins and they were getting it from the big bonus that already offered by the team. this will never happen if the team was not offering a huge bonus and provide the liquidity, The fact when the majority of developers can't provide good liquidity for their coins and they have started to abandon their own coin.

The word abandon is really bad to hear for investors, I mean we trust them with our money, we finance their idea but in the end they'll just abandon it.
It's tantamount to scamming investors and there should be a strict regulation watching this kind of people taking advantage the poor investors who are hoping to get good return by risking money.

As everyone mentioned, it is people who invested early for cheaper prices and they want to sell higher or at least basically sell at any cost to get out, that is the gist of it.

However, one more thing that gets attention is the lack of buyers because of the cheaper investments earlier. Think about it, there is a coin that you can buy with 30% "discount" for literally a whole month if you want to, doesn't guarantee that price will stay like that but it will start selling at those levels first then it will go down the more people buys, but it is still a cheaper price than you can buy from the market when it first starts.

So that means, people who are willing to buy already buys when it is "cheaper" and when it gets listed there are no more buyers left, all the buyers basically bought when it was cheap, which means there is only sellers on the market as soon as it gets listed up until a point.

Those coins that losses value after listing on exchanges aren't good enough, if a coin offers something irresistible for investors the price will keep growing, take a look at Tokoin and Temtum, these new projects are good enough that they can withstand and incoming storm

Absolutely right in the way of bounty hunters promotion is not good effective and aware to newbies about scam projects promotion. Even most of the hunters social platform accounts are flooded in the fake followers. Price dropped is happened for team fault why they offered huge discount which can threatened for the whole project liquidity. I don’t blame hunters and investors.                      

There's only few of them, majority of the coins suffered when listed in an exchange during the bear market because people fear and when investors dump their coins, the more the value will drop lower. Imagine when you are investing worth $1,000 but when you the coin is listed in an exchange people dump and you'll be in shock with the value of your coin to worth $100 only, it doesn't look good but it's happening.

Because for investors the most important thing if you invest is to gain from it, their less concern is the potential of the coins/tokens.

So if there's a chance to take profit they will sell immediately.

Well its quite common and we cant blame those investors because they are just doing what they think is best for their investment.

If you are an investor for sure the thing first comes on your mind is to make money out of your investment and its just normal for us to take those instant or early steps
to sell out when we do able to see some opportunity.

No surprise for price to be dumped after it gets listed. Only good projects or coins would able to recover on such dump and even top or good ones do experience such price decrease
depending on the market condition.

projects that offer too many discounts and have bounties and airdrops of more than 2% of the allocation offered are key prices for tokens or coins from the project being destroyed, therefore analyzing a project is very important, don't expect too much discounts on ICO or IEO, it will make us cry

Furryball was somehow right but you both dont understand what derermine the success level of a project after exchange listing because new project allocating more than 2% of all total supply coin doesnt mean the coin will loose it value and what most coin/token that was able to scale through after exchange listing did giving investors and bounty hunters reason to hold their coin and also participate/slightly control the coin price on exchange through buying/selling.

The price at which the tokens are listed in the exchanges initially got declined because of the market situation of the whole market. But, most of the time the prices are also listed in over priced as you see in the bull market. So, keep an eye of the market situation and then buy the token from the exchanges.

This is the thing about altcoins people will forget. Even if you can find interested buyers (mainly speculators not investors) then they would have either made it earlier on private sales OR they will join those investment pools that buy in bulk to get extra discounts.

So exactly as you said. They get in super early or buy super big, get 30% discount they can even sell to others for small profit even before listing!

One factor is that particular event, if the coin gives so much discount and a huge allocation for bounty then released everything after the sale expect heavy dumped to happened. It's very important to analyze and observe each projects that being introduced to the market each behavior really affects the outcome success if there's too much promises.

I think if the project doesn't launch allocations for big bonuses and bounties, I think it will be a bit of an interest, so they do it to attract investors. But behind it all of us if as investors must be patient when prices go down when listing on the exchange, usually some projects impose a bonus and bounty freeze to keep prices from dumping.

the team should really have some sort of control regarding their token or coin distribution after their IEO/ICO. the allocation for most bounty programs is relatively small as compared to the team's holdings or investors' possessions. so even if they will be dumped after listing, which is the usual scenario (because they want their payment after the bounty program), it should not have a significant impact on their value. if the project is really worth it, they can easily go back to its original value. unless, the team's coins or the investors will also dump their holdings, wherein, in most cases, they will only do such action if they are just a money-grab project and really not sincere in delivering their objectives.

but do you think if they dont do these things they will become indemand ? no they are not . they do these because its part of the promotion in order for them to be discovered  .  look at some projects ,  they do the same too but they are still succesful  . its not about the allocation or bonuses but its about how the project/coin being created to  . its also normal for the coin to go down after listing  , all good coins also experience that too but later on they recovered  . 

The price of the coin or token is dependent on the demand and supply ratio .
More the demand more will be the price , more the supply less will be the price .

Number two option is absolutely wrong. Airdrop or bounty token can't make dump for a long time. Even many projects with real value dumped highly after listing on exchanges. Maybe it's because people want to take the profit first, or presale investors dumped to get higher profit. For example, recent Wazirx IEO price was 0.002$ and after exchange listing price became 0.15$. Now if you hold then you will see how price goes down. This is not token's real value or airdrop hunters fault. You have to pick the best time to sell, not everyone is a holder rather most of them are profit taker.

not all airdrops need gas, I have participated in several airdrops where I only needed my mail, for example: Blockchain had an airdrop where you could claim stellar, the Coindeal exchange had an airdrop in which it launched its own currency and I could withdraw without problem (I think it still works) and finally Yoda from the Yobit exchange also had an airdrop that combined 2% of what the airdrop paid you, the good thing is that it could be withdrawn daily.



I think that what you are referring to is the hybrid projects between ICOs and airdrops, they basically give investors privileges, but I think they are very dangerous, they can scam us.

The fact is that to a greater extent everything just happens as your opponent said, when investors and other cryptocurrency users receive tokens for free, at a cheap price with big discounts, and after listing they start immediately selling at a starting price, which in any case is significantly  higher than what were when buying.  In addition, I am confident that many projects have unscrupulous developers who themselves seek to sell their tokens in order to earn real money that they were not able to collect during the preliminary sale.

It is not about any hybrid projects, but about the fact that investors who buy first have a huge discount. If the tokens they purchase are not blocked for a certain period, then when the token enters the exchange they can sell them with a very high profit.

Check this example: In 5 days, start selling tokens  www.MyTVchain.com - IEO website: www.mytvchain.io

Official price is $0.067 for 1 token, but first investors can buy this token for just $0.005, which is less than 10% of the official price. Their tokens are not blocked, so the first day after entering exchanege they can sell them with huge profits. Ofcourse it will be big dump! And it is huge mistake of developers!

Many things can cause this. One of the reoccurrences of a price drop is from large scale investors who got this token at a higher discount far above the listing price without locking for a specific period. Secondly, is the team dumping the token on the investors and lastly from bounty hunters who need to convert their time and energy on something spendable

It depends upon the coin because most of the coin prices will increase after listing and after due to sudden pump the price of coin decrease it's a price to a lower value than their ICO price. From there the coin price is based on the developments and improvements from the team, that we should start trading with the coin which has active developments and updates from the team.

I am not sure if you have a basis on what you are saying or just your own opinion.

IMO, it depends on the timing of listing because if you list in a bearish market, you can't expect that the price will rise, and per reality, most of the coins that are listed in the past have drop their value after getting listed in an exchange, but during the bull run in 2017, they do rise and even rise beyond our expectation.

Dumpers will be created by team's, you can ask how. If team will go for sell tokens with a lot of discount for investors. Team's help to make dumpers to dump coin price after goes to list in the exchanges. Who's blame investors & hunters, it’s like a mockery their sides. Team should be stopped to such things than it will never happen.   

there were times when you could quickly expect an increase as everyone was already waiting to be able to finally buy.
every ICO with -40% was guaranteed profit because at least the ICO price was always achieved.
and now? you have to be happy if you get out without much loss. :D

But it was during a bull market when projects sometimes reached hardcap of several million within a few hours. There were simply a lot of investors. When projects have a hard time achieving softcap, giving big discounts kills the price after entering exchange. Unfortunately, developers have come up with the idea that they will attract investors by giving large discounts. This is the main problem that causes the price to fall immediately after entering the exchange. If tokens sold at a large discount were secured with a lock period, then this situation could be saved, but often the price is not protected even in this way.

In any case, Bounty Hunters cannot be blamed for cryptocurrency price drops after listing.  The total Bounty pool is not large enough to influence pricing.  I believe that these problems are primarily flaws in the team, since there are clear examples of the developers of their project resorting to certain tricks in order to preserve the value of their coins on exchanges.  In addition, listing on fairly rated exchanges also gives a very good impetus to preserve and increase the value of the coin.

We always seen like that after we receive our bounty rewards in any bounty we participate that first thing we could experience are the price of coins we have are dropping so much after we receive on it. So we are force to holding it until it back to ICO price or IEO, But it take long days that would increase the prices or else become a shitcoins and no value.

The main reason has to be that if an ICO doesn't hit hard cap, then by definition there is more supply than demand. That's all you need for downwards price pressure. Dumping by bounty participants, or by people who bought early with a percentage bonus are overrated as contributing factors. No need to look beyond the obvious here.