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Economy => Reputation => Topic started by: YOSHIE on September 25, 2019, 03:25:03 AM



Title: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: YOSHIE on September 25, 2019, 03:25:03 AM
I see every campaign rule sig, it is written: (register many alt accounts will be kicked and negative trust, not paid).

campaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185018.0

Question:
1. What if the manager has his own account at most, can not be trusted.
2. How he accepts participants is himself, not others.

I'm not accusing, just asking.

Example:
1. Dontme: active account
2. Gandame: active account
3. Macai: active account
4. BabyBoss: active account
5. Lecam: active account
6.burong1: active account

7. L00n3y: (Archived/bpip) (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=L00n3y)
8. s0beit: (Archived/bpip) (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=s0beit)
9. bakkang: (Archived/bpip) (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=bakkang)
10. Wowcoin: (Archived/bpip) (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Wowcoin)

6 accounts are still active, 4 have been banned.

Proof:

Accounts Connected:
burong1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1156390), Lecam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=882117), l00n3y (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=44066), s0beit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=11718), bakkang (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=984987), Babyboss (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1109829), Wowcoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=809963), Macai (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=958892), DOntme (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=999018), Gandame (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=816788)

Proof:
This address has received many EASYMINE token deposits.... https://etherscan.io/address/0xe6484504cdf9e4e5af4548ed1ad61f3e75ad16f0#tokentxns
https://i.imgur.com/M4qcApp.jpg

When we search on forum, we got all these names....

Bitcointalk username: Dontme
Twitter username: @iammgerl
Twitter link: https://mobile.twitter.com/IamMgerl
Eth address: 0x4cF150ADBD95ed35BdE9cf5dc5d51C9549f9EFa3

I joined twitter campaign, I didn't yet receive my bounty rewards.
dontme 0x4cf150adbd95ed35bde9cf5dc5d51c9549f9efa3 http://archive.is/VgUrP

Quote from: Macai
Join Form:  Signature campaign
Bitcointalk username: Macai
Account URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=958892
Rank: Full Member
Starting post Count: 126
Date of Join:  December 05 2017
Bitcoin address: 17tB34g8Y1pzA7X3XWzcuXdqmDuKHFKVp3
Ether add: 0xE6484504cdf9e4E5AF4548ed1Ad61F3e75ad16f0
macai 0xE6484504cdf9e4E5AF4548ed1Ad61F3e75ad16f0 http://archive.is/rsVZH

#JOIN

Bitcointalk username: Wowcoin
Forum rank: Hero member
Posts count:  1168
ETH address: 0x5740241812f338B0650D59fF2c40C2F82792cba0
wowcoin 0x5740241812f338B0650D59fF2c40C2F82792cba0 http://archive.is/ZKhyX

#JOIN
Bitcointalk Username: BabyBoss
Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1109829;sa=showPosts
Current post count: 377
Rank: Full Member
Wear our avatar or personal text?: YES (both)
Ethereum Address: 0xdC874541CB6d8F37338575E8d105A054007eA2A2
babyboss 0xdC874541CB6d8F37338575E8d105A054007eA2A2 http://archive.is/vWi6P

Hi dev, I'm joined Signature Campaign

#JOIN

Bitcointalk username:  Bakkang
Forum rank: Member
Posts count: 128
ETH address: 0x81c701Fb2103dcbde6ffD7755397da9561ebFa8e
bakang 0x81c701Fb2103dcbde6ffD7755397da9561ebFa8e http://archive.is/H02na

#JOIN

Bitcointalk username: s0beit
Forum rank: Sr. Member
Posts count:  297+1= 298
ETH address: 0x0cCFe8017FE1F3007f0fCffc7F429dEDF0669aae

Thank you!

s0beit 0x0cCFe8017FE1F3007f0fCffc7F429dEDF0669aae http://archive.is/ginWq

Quote from: L00n3y
Bitcointalk username:  L00n3y
Bitcointalk profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=44066
Post count: 354
Rank: Sr. Member
Date of Join: December 2 from the old one thread until now
Bitcoin address: 1ND5z9XjmtwnoKqSxKNuq3TjWsAn9Uh3y
ether address: 0xF01aBC8C9Eb47b59c0Cca4A98a4C922A3e1b608e
l00n3y 0xF01aBC8C9Eb47b59c0Cca4A98a4C922A3e1b608e http://archive.is/Mupui

#JOIN

Bitcointalk username: Lecam
Forum rank: Sr. Member
Posts count:  697 + 1 = 698
ETH address: 0x33d5b9575b68AFf6E93D1Aab85F8B853bD22A23C
lecam 0x33d5b9575b68AFf6E93D1Aab85F8B853bD22A23C http://archive.is/R0rB7

Bitcointalk username: burong1
Rank: junior Member
Current post count: 49
Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1156390
Eth address : 0xd9D912E8a14EACA8914cbA41FD40Cf5e4a4dC9d3
burong1 0xd9D912E8a14EACA8914cbA41FD40Cf5e4a4dC9d3 http://archive.is/1ZQQ4



It's not over, there is another alt behind those accounts. When we see on here https://etherscan.io/address/0x9279a86ca5be8be767aac1c0bb12f1cad2947d82#tokentxns
https://i.imgur.com/9fI7s43.jpg

that address has received many UTRUST token deposits...

When we search on UTRUST signature sheet, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z7vmnANbyyECG9dQG11m8lnlBvGvfLd5rVJcl_1OW6c/edit#gid=581688320  

Macai 0xe6484504cdf9e4e5af4548ed1ad61f3e75ad16f0 #signature sheet #9
Gandame 0x62a27c6e093e23ee9a6623bf5577f7f75f93f3cb #signature sheet #313 http://archive.is/zTaWG
Wowcoin 0x5740241812f338B0650D59fF2c40C2F82792cba0

Related Addresses:
Code:
0x4cf150adbd95ed35bde9cf5dc5d51c9549f9efa3 
0xE6484504cdf9e4E5AF4548ed1Ad61F3e75ad16f0
0x5740241812f338B0650D59fF2c40C2F82792cba0
0xdC874541CB6d8F37338575E8d105A054007eA2A2
0x81c701Fb2103dcbde6ffD7755397da9561ebFa8e
0x0cCFe8017FE1F3007f0fCffc7F429dEDF0669aae
0xF01aBC8C9Eb47b59c0Cca4A98a4C922A3e1b608e
0x33d5b9575b68AFf6E93D1Aab85F8B853bD22A23C
0xd9D912E8a14EACA8914cbA41FD40Cf5e4a4dC9d3
0x62a27c6e093e23ee9a6623bf5577f7f75f93f3cb

Miscellaneous:
Abusing on various bounties with alts.

P.S this cheater also abusing merit by giving merit to their own alt.
Proofs :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=816788 <- received 5 Merits from Wowcoin

Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg37046279#msg37046279


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: Avirunes on September 25, 2019, 03:47:50 AM
I don't see him accepting these alts into his own campaigns.

Question:
1. What if the manager has his own account at most, can not be trusted.
2. How he accepts participants is himself, not others.

Campaign owners usually don't check this and end up hiring incompetent managers. If you find someone like this then just PM campaign owners about it. I am sure they will think about it and change if they find the evidence solid.


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: Murat on September 25, 2019, 03:49:25 AM
This should be count here too! it looks like pretty_me & Wonder_woman alts too. They didn't receive the payment & said nothing about this on signature thread. At least I would not mark it paid if it's not paid yet.

After reading your post, I checked the Cryptomania campaign and to my surprise, the campaign payments are quite confusing.

I see this proof of payment they have - https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/c35cc5c35fdfd01a43ea3b475d9fa1e1f586b9f777bffcc0173bb2cd0f450886

And there are only 8 output transactions 2 of which only corresponds to two profiles ChrisPop (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=399267) and numanoid (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=333524)

So I checked the other participants, like.

passwordnow (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=803429) - https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/d900b6b0cbf0b7511d993c174fc0edb159cea7701521e3d15cbb2af55c189835

It is his wallet that only in that transaction. I'm guessing why would it have other wallets to be paid to. And I continued checking other profiles like this

Wonder_woman  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1178731)- https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3B9CWGGWHsbFKRbdQ51mgkSoTNe1K8Zgfx

Prettyme  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094364)- https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3HiPAWGHKnqb7GQ3MXchtzypvRVfVCPCrq

It says Paid on the spreadsheet  (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTSSIcC_HPpUiyKkIpWMz6xRR6LUk8pFWJXdlXST2dXKVR2bI0Wvxa-SWiv_mKU2W8GFL7i8U3XmF8r/pubhtml)but isn't really paid on the address sheet.


This is quite sketchy in my opinion or maybe they could explain or something. Will try to investigate further when I have time, maybe others can check.


Here is a screenshot of the spreadsheet  (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTSSIcC_HPpUiyKkIpWMz6xRR6LUk8pFWJXdlXST2dXKVR2bI0Wvxa-SWiv_mKU2W8GFL7i8U3XmF8r/pubhtml). They might change it or something
https://i.imgur.com/9fKJkSs.png


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: YOSHIE on September 25, 2019, 04:24:17 AM
my question and guess are correct, accepting his Alt, Alt account.
Cheat:


2 Accounts Connected:

1. bakkang (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=984987)
2. Prettyme (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094364)

Proof:

Username: Prettyme
Bitcointalk Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094364
Rank: full member
Post count: 351
Bitcoin address: 3HiPAWGHKnqb7GQ3MXchtzypvRVfVCPCrq

http://archive.is/r3lWy

Post by bakkang: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2195541.msg22107797#msg22107797
Quote
Twitter campaign

Link to twitter handle: https://mobile.twitter.com/gerald_cabalse
Link to twitter audit: https://www.twitteraudit.com/gerald_cabalse
Link to tweet : https://twitter.com/Narbonne_io/status/910880128909156352
Bitcoin address : 3HiPAWGHKnqb7GQ3MXchtzypvRVfVCPCrq

http://archive.is/04Dr9

Related Addresses:

Code:
Bitcoin address: 3HiPAWGHKnqb7GQ3MXchtzypvRVfVCPCrq

Miscellaneous:

Cheating on and accepting his own Alt account participant.
spreadsheets (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTSSIcC_HPpUiyKkIpWMz6xRR6LUk8pFWJXdlXST2dXKVR2bI0Wvxa-SWiv_mKU2W8GFL7i8U3XmF8r/pubhtml#)

http://archive.is/nnCxK

Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185018.msg52468786#msg52468786
Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2195541.msg22107797#msg22107797

https://zizihub.com/97cd.jpg

https://zizihub.com/328a.jpg

Prettyme was my cousin. From the time we started bitcointalk we didn’t know at first that if you send gas to the other account bitcointalk address it will be link us here and was not allowed we didn’t know it will link to accounts.

Grandmother, uncle, aunt, sister, mother. etc.

http://archive.is/8IPrQ

Open a re-campaign with an Alt account.

Topic: 🌈🎰💰CryptoMania Slots Signature Campaign[OPEN]🍋🍉🍇🍒🥭👑 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5187424.0)

http://archive.is/1ZbWT


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: Dontme on September 25, 2019, 04:50:25 AM
This should be count here too! it looks like pretty_me & Wonder_woman alts too. They didn't receive the payment & said nothing about this on signature thread. At least I would not mark it paid if it's not paid yet.

After reading your post, I checked the Cryptomania campaign and to my surprise, the campaign payments are quite confusing.

I see this proof of payment they have - https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/c35cc5c35fdfd01a43ea3b475d9fa1e1f586b9f777bffcc0173bb2cd0f450886

And there are only 8 output transactions 2 of which only corresponds to two profiles ChrisPop (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=399267) and numanoid (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=333524)

So I checked the other participants, like.

passwordnow (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=803429) - https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/d900b6b0cbf0b7511d993c174fc0edb159cea7701521e3d15cbb2af55c189835

It is his wallet that only in that transaction. I'm guessing why would it have other wallets to be paid to. And I continued checking other profiles like this

Wonder_woman  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1178731)- https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3B9CWGGWHsbFKRbdQ51mgkSoTNe1K8Zgfx

Prettyme  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094364)- https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3HiPAWGHKnqb7GQ3MXchtzypvRVfVCPCrq

It says Paid on the spreadsheet  (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTSSIcC_HPpUiyKkIpWMz6xRR6LUk8pFWJXdlXST2dXKVR2bI0Wvxa-SWiv_mKU2W8GFL7i8U3XmF8r/pubhtml)but isn't really paid on the address sheet.


This is quite sketchy in my opinion or maybe they could explain or something. Will try to investigate further when I have time, maybe others can check.


Here is a screenshot of the spreadsheet  (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTSSIcC_HPpUiyKkIpWMz6xRR6LUk8pFWJXdlXST2dXKVR2bI0Wvxa-SWiv_mKU2W8GFL7i8U3XmF8r/pubhtml). They might change it or something
https://i.imgur.com/9fKJkSs.png
You can’t accuse me that I didn’t pay them. I paid them through Coins.ph app wallet. Don’t make accusations that it’s like your always right.


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: Murat on September 25, 2019, 04:54:59 AM

You can’t accuse me that I didn’t pay them. I paid them through Coins.ph app wallet. Don’t make accusations that it’s like your always right.

No one accused that you're not paying the participants.

You cheated bounty campaigns & the campaign you managing right now.


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: rosezionjohn on September 25, 2019, 04:56:30 AM
This should be count here too! it looks like pretty_me & Wonder_woman alts too. They didn't receive the payment & said nothing about this on signature thread. At least I would not mark it paid if it's not paid yet.

-snip

You forgot to read the succeeding comments.

^ I read payment is done thru coinsph. Maybe that'll explain some of the "irregularities".
Thanks for the info. Upon checking, the manager said this

Hello there mate. I’m using an app wallet. Coins.ph. Kindly wait and I will send it right away on this wallet. Thankyou :)

I did check it, that's probably why there are a lot of unknown transactions. So of all the people that are included in the campaign, the majority are Filipinos? That's quite a coincidence. Hmm. Anyways, just pointing it out.

-snip
It's quite convenient for the users to use a service like coins.ph to distribute the payments. It saves them time and the transaction fees are non-existent so which is good. It's great that they are using that, I wasn't aware the first time I looked into it. Nevertheless, at least they got paid.


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: Murat on September 25, 2019, 05:06:24 AM

You forgot to read the succeeding comments.


Are you an alt of Dontme? You quickly posted the same line ''I paid everyone''.

Coins.ph has a target interval of sending batch transactions at a maximum interval of 2 minutes, if not sooner. - Source (https://support.coins.ph/hc/en-us/articles/360000067742-When-will-my-BTC-or-BCH-transaction-be-posted-)

It looks like he didn't send the btc to his alts maybe he was trying to be smart. I think dontme & his alts need to read this whole thread carefully.  ;) 


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: rosezionjohn on September 25, 2019, 05:15:15 AM

You forgot to read the succeeding comments.


Are you an alt of Dontme? You quickly posted the same line ''I paid everyone''.

Coins.ph has a target interval of sending batch transactions at a maximum interval of 2 minutes, if not sooner. - Source (https://support.coins.ph/hc/en-us/articles/360000067742-When-will-my-BTC-or-BCH-transaction-be-posted-)

It looks like he didn't send the btc to his alts maybe he was trying to be smart. I think dontme & his alts need to read this whole thread carefully.  ;)  

Alt? Nope. My application was rejected in my first attempt (week 1). I went to the thread you quoted and read the previous replies which you did not include. The person you quoted also acknowledged payments were made. I am not that familiar with the technicalities of coinsph but from what I understand, if both the sender and the receiver uses coinsph generated addresses, you don't see the transaction on the blockchain. Only a reference ID on the app will be shown.  


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: Murat on September 25, 2019, 05:23:05 AM
I am not that familiar with the technicalities of coinsph but from what I understand, if both the sender and the receiver uses coinsph generated addresses, you don't see the transaction on the blockchain. Only a reference ID on the app will be shown.  

All Coins transactions are settled in Bitcoin using Blockchain technology.

https://support.coins.ph/hc/en-us/articles/206113102?input_string=transactions

I emailed them to know more info about this.


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: Dontme on September 25, 2019, 05:30:57 AM
I am not that familiar with the technicalities of coinsph but from what I understand, if both the sender and the receiver uses coinsph generated addresses, you don't see the transaction on the blockchain. Only a reference ID on the app will be shown.  

All Coins transactions are settled in Bitcoin using Blockchain technology.

https://support.coins.ph/hc/en-us/articles/206113102?input_string=transactions

I emailed them to know more info about this.
Pilipinos are using coins.ph and some of the participants are also Pilipino. Do I need to send my coins.ph history in order for you to believe it. You are free to ask conis.ph services and I can surely tell this. I paid the participants right and the payment was sent on their wallet successfully.


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: rosezionjohn on September 25, 2019, 05:35:08 AM
I am not that familiar with the technicalities of coinsph but from what I understand, if both the sender and the receiver uses coinsph generated addresses, you don't see the transaction on the blockchain. Only a reference ID on the app will be shown.  

All Coins transactions are settled in Bitcoin using Blockchain technology.

https://support.coins.ph/hc/en-us/articles/206113102?input_string=transactions

I emailed them to know more info about this.

It looks like it. Here is one of the comments in our local board where majority are coinsph users.

...hindi coins.ph to coins.ph ang transfer para maipost na din ang transaction ID for reference ng loan just incase meron hindi magbayad madali mapulahan
Actually kahit coins.ph to coins.ph makikita yun sa blockchain and maipopost din ang transaction ID... Once na posted na sya click mo lang yung transaction details then lalabas na dun ng TXID

https://i.imgur.com/Grdx9FV.jpg

And just in case na PESO to PESO... may reference ID din si coins.ph.
Just a Reminder: Makipagtransact lang po tayo dun sa Verified User ni Coins.ph...


Actually, the transaction can still be seen on the blockchain even if its coinsph to coinsph and you can still post the transaction ID....Once posted, just click transaction details then the TXID will appear. (tried my best with the translation)




@Dontme how about following the guide from cabalism13 (see above) to show the payment transactions from coins.ph and update the spreadsheet? This may settle the non-payment issue.


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: Murat on September 25, 2019, 05:38:41 AM

Pilipinos are using coins.ph and some of the participants are also Pilipino. Do I need to send my coins.ph history in order for you to believe it.

So you want to prove that you send payment to your alts?

Prove us -

1. The accounts listed are not connected with you.

2. Prettyme is not your alt account.




Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: Dontme on September 25, 2019, 05:46:47 AM

Pilipinos are using coins.ph and some of the participants are also Pilipino. Do I need to send my coins.ph history in order for you to believe it.

So you want to prove that you send payment to your alts?

Prove us -

1. The accounts listed are not connected with you.

2. Prettyme is not your alt account.



I know it is not right but even how many times I try to tell this no one believe me. Prettyme was my cousin. From the time we started bitcointalk we didn’t know at first that if you send gas to the other account bitcointalk address it will be link us here and was not allowed we didn’t know it will link to accounts. We are still too young in crypto that time.


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on September 25, 2019, 06:02:03 AM
Dontme is clearly not accepting the most qualified candidates into his signature campaign. I applied for his CryptoMania (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185018.msg52549953#msg52549953) campaign, was not accepted, and looking at who was accepted, I was passed over for multiple people with no merit received. 


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: logfiles on September 25, 2019, 06:06:17 AM
I know it is not right but even how many times I try to tell this no one believe me. Prettyme was my cousin. From the time we started bitcointalk we didn’t know at first that if you send gas to the other account bitcointalk address it will be link us here and was not allowed we didn’t know it will link to accounts. We are still too young in crypto that time.
Nobody is gonna believe the "cousin" excuse even if it were true. Multiple times users who have ever been caught cheating with alts have always used the same excuse of cousin, spouse, siblings to save their skins.
You have to look for another way of proving your accounts are not alts


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: Avirunes on September 25, 2019, 06:11:06 AM
My accusation is correct, accepting his Alt, Alt account.
Cheat:


2 Accounts Connected:

1. bakkang (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=984987)
2. Prettyme (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094364)

Nice work Yoshie!!. I will start tagging all the accounts listed.


I know it is not right but even how many times I try to tell this no one believe me. Prettyme was my cousin. From the time we started bitcointalk we didn’t know at first that if you send gas to the other account bitcointalk address it will be link us here and was not allowed we didn’t know it will link to accounts. We are still too young in crypto that time.

What would you do if someone in your campaign has multiple accounts and after getting caught gives excuse : "Oh he was my cousin brother/sister.. or whatever"? Would you believe him?

Guess we need to modify rule: "One account each household" maybe just like casinos.  :D



Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: crwth on September 25, 2019, 08:01:37 AM
The person you quoted also acknowledged payments were made.
Is it me you are talking about? I did say that they got paid assuming that the participants didn't complain, as simple as that, but having actual proof that the transaction happened, I don't have that. I don't know if there's a way unless the manager deliberately shares the transactions. All of it. Making sure that it's on the correct timestamps as well.



Dontme is clearly not accepting the most qualified candidates into his signature campaign. I applied for his CryptoMania (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185018.msg52549953#msg52549953) campaign, was not accepted, and looking at who was accepted, I was passed over for multiple people with no merit received.  
I did notice this while I was scrolling in the page of the CryptoMania thread. There are a lot of usernames that I was familiar but skipped on it. It's like they purposefully accepted the ones that they like or have a connection to.


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: legendster on September 25, 2019, 08:20:58 AM
I know it is not right but even how many times I try to tell this no one believe me. Prettyme was my cousin. From the time we started bitcointalk we didn’t know at first that if you send gas to the other account bitcointalk address it will be link us here and was not allowed we didn’t know it will link to accounts. We are still too young in crypto that time.

Overused rhetoric of alt account being a relative.

At the least, you are guilty of enrolling a family relative to smooch off the project that already employed you. Shame on you.

Don't you know it is unethical for projects to employ their own employees and their related family in a bounty / reward program (which is what every signature campaign is essentially?)

It is even forbidden by law in some places.



I know my tag is not worth it, because I am not on DT and not many people have me in their trust list. But it is better than nothing. Please do not message me to remove this tag.


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: crwth on September 25, 2019, 09:23:26 AM
A new account is created, SlotsCryptoMania (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2685902), today.

Old thread was locked and content was deleted https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185018.msg52468510#msg52468510

And a new Signature campaign thread was created https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5187424.0

ANNOUNCEMENT!!!
The 1st Signature Campaign Thread was deleted. This will be the new one. We are now again Open for all ranks and we will only accept good quality posters.

What's the verdict? Is it to prevent possible connections on the campaign manager accounts? I don't know. But this is still sketchy.


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: joniboini on September 25, 2019, 09:39:32 AM
What's the verdict? Is it to prevent possible connections on the campaign manager accounts? I don't know. But this is still sketchy.

CryptoMania should be able to answer it (or maybe theymos with the IP log data). But it seems like DontMe has managed their ANN thread, and possibly their communications on this forum. I guess they trusted DontMe.

So, either sent them an e-mail or ask on Telegram.


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: crwth on September 25, 2019, 09:51:08 AM
CryptoMania should be able to answer it (or maybe theymos with the IP log data). But it seems like DontMe has managed their ANN thread, and possibly their communications on this forum. I guess they trusted DontMe.
What bugs me the most is that there's even no warning that they would be changing "managers"/"accounts" in the old thread. This is the last post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185018.msg52550566#msg52550566) in the old thread before it was locked. Definitely not a warning message. Just out of the blue. Contacting the site would be ideal.


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: magneto on September 25, 2019, 11:30:29 AM
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What's the verdict? Is it to prevent possible connections on the campaign manager accounts? I don't know. But this is still sketchy.

It's quite likely that they're still using Dontme as campaign manager, just under a new alt now, in my opinion. It's highly unlikely that the handover to any new campaign would be this smooth and unannounced, and happen within such a short period of time.

The owner of the site may well be informed of these series of events and continued to put their trust into Dontme, despite the allegations, since they wouldn't be negatively affected.

CryptoMania should be able to answer it (or maybe theymos with the IP log data). But it seems like DontMe has managed their ANN thread, and possibly their communications on this forum. I guess they trusted DontMe.
What bugs me the most is that there's even no warning that they would be changing "managers"/"accounts" in the old thread. This is the last post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185018.msg52550566#msg52550566) in the old thread before it was locked. Definitely not a warning message. Just out of the blue. Contacting the site would be ideal.

Contacting the site wouldn't yield anything probably since they would probably have vested interest not to tell the truth.

Anyhow, I don't really see a problem with participating in the campaign itself (if you are willing to take on the risk of non-payment), or any wrongdoing on the website's behalf per se. It's solely the reputation of Dontme that is at stake here.


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: YOSHIE on September 25, 2019, 12:36:18 PM
It's quite likely that they're still using Dontme as campaign manager, just under a new alt now, in my opinion. It's highly unlikely that the handover to any new campaign would be this smooth and unannounced, and happen within such a short period of time.

He said this and answered.

My Apologies to all of the old participants that I can’t inform everyone of you. I just told Dontme to delete it right away and I will manage it now. So, I am carefully accepting a new participants now that are good at quality post.

I will see the development of the campaign, if later on I find irregularities, lies, deception.
I will report it.


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: PrimeNumber7 on September 25, 2019, 01:46:33 PM
A new account is created, SlotsCryptoMania (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2685902), today.

Old thread was locked and content was deleted https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185018.msg52468510#msg52468510

And a new Signature campaign thread was created https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5187424.0

ANNOUNCEMENT!!!
The 1st Signature Campaign Thread was deleted. This will be the new one. We are now again Open for all ranks and we will only accept good quality posters.

What's the verdict? Is it to prevent possible connections on the campaign manager accounts? I don't know. But this is still sketchy.

bakkang was banned this past spring. It is possible this was done out of fear of getting banned for ban evasion.

He is accepting people that generally make really bad posts, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he is the same person.


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: logfiles on September 25, 2019, 02:00:30 PM
What's the verdict? Is it to prevent possible connections on the campaign manager accounts? I don't know. But this is still sketchy.
Very suspicious and probable alt if i may say.

If it was the real owner as they claim. They would be so concerned about the reputation, and so they would probably have joined the discussion in this thread and tried to tell people about their way forward even before abruptly creating a new thread.

Also, I am wondering what they are going to do to the people who were already participating. What about they pay for the time they have spent advertising their business?


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: YOSHIE on September 25, 2019, 03:06:24 PM
Apparently, the new manager @ SlotsCryptoMania, also violates its own campaign rules. Trouble again.

Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5187424.msg52553456#msg52553456

http://archive.is/6KheD

Pay close attention to the rules made.

Rules and Requirements:

-Only constructive post will be counted.

-Negative trusts members can’t join the campaign.


Proof:

https://zizihub.com/b04d.jpg

trust: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=808431

@HatakeKakashi

https://zizihub.com/978c.jpg

trust: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=333524

@numanoid

Look what he said.

Yes  and we are very strict to accept participants now.

~~~
I see from BPIP, Black.

~~~
Yes, maybe, you can't, but let it go.
I give what I see.


Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: Murat on September 25, 2019, 03:28:55 PM
Apparently, the new manager @ SlotsCryptoMania, also violates its own campaign rules. Trouble again.

Both of the user's feedback is neutral. They didn't receive any feedback from DT members.

https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=HatakeKakashi

https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=numanoid




Title: Re: Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.
Post by: Little Mouse on September 25, 2019, 03:32:34 PM
@YOSHIE
I can't see negative DT tag on these profile you shared. May be you are using custom trust list and have added these persons in your trust list, or somebody from your trust list has added these persons in their trust list.