Signature campaign managers have the most Alt accounts.

[YOSHIE]

I see every campaign rule sig, it is written: (register many alt accounts will be kicked and negative trust, not paid).

campaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185018.0

Question:
1. What if the manager has his own account at most, can not be trusted.
2. How he accepts participants is himself, not others.

I'm not accusing, just asking.

Example:
1. Dontme: active account
2. Gandame: active account
3. Macai: active account
4. BabyBoss: active account
5. Lecam: active account
6.burong1: active account

7. L00n3y: (Archived/bpip)
8. s0beit: (Archived/bpip)
9. bakkang: (Archived/bpip)
10. Wowcoin: (Archived/bpip)

6 accounts are still active, 4 have been banned.

Proof:

Accounts Connected:
burong1, Lecam, l00n3y, s0beit, bakkang, Babyboss, Wowcoin, Macai, DOntme, Gandame

Proof:
This address has received many EASYMINE token deposits.... https://etherscan.io/address/0xe6484504cdf9e4e5af4548ed1ad61f3e75ad16f0#tokentxns


When we search on forum, we got all these names....

Bitcointalk username: Dontme
Twitter username: @iammgerl
Twitter link: https://mobile.twitter.com/IamMgerl
Eth address: 0x4cF150ADBD95ed35BdE9cf5dc5d51C9549f9EFa3

I joined twitter campaign, I didn't yet receive my bounty rewards.

dontme 0x4cf150adbd95ed35bde9cf5dc5d51c9549f9efa3 http://archive.is/VgUrP

Join Form:  Signature campaign
Bitcointalk username: Macai
Account URL: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=958892
Rank: Full Member
Starting post Count: 126
Date of Join:  December 05 2017
Bitcoin address: 17tB34g8Y1pzA7X3XWzcuXdqmDuKHFKVp3
Ether add: 0xE6484504cdf9e4E5AF4548ed1Ad61F3e75ad16f0

macai 0xE6484504cdf9e4E5AF4548ed1Ad61F3e75ad16f0 http://archive.is/rsVZH

#JOIN

Bitcointalk username: Wowcoin
Forum rank: Hero member
Posts count:  1168
ETH address: 0x5740241812f338B0650D59fF2c40C2F82792cba0

wowcoin 0x5740241812f338B0650D59fF2c40C2F82792cba0 http://archive.is/ZKhyX

#JOIN
Bitcointalk Username: BabyBoss
Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1109829;sa=showPosts
Current post count: 377
Rank: Full Member
Wear our avatar or personal text?: YES (both)
Ethereum Address: 0xdC874541CB6d8F37338575E8d105A054007eA2A2

babyboss 0xdC874541CB6d8F37338575E8d105A054007eA2A2 http://archive.is/vWi6P

Hi dev, I'm joined Signature Campaign

#JOIN

Bitcointalk username:  Bakkang
Forum rank: Member
Posts count: 128
ETH address: 0x81c701Fb2103dcbde6ffD7755397da9561ebFa8e

bakang 0x81c701Fb2103dcbde6ffD7755397da9561ebFa8e http://archive.is/H02na

#JOIN

Bitcointalk username: s0beit
Forum rank: Sr. Member
Posts count:  297+1= 298
ETH address: 0x0cCFe8017FE1F3007f0fCffc7F429dEDF0669aae

Thank you!

s0beit 0x0cCFe8017FE1F3007f0fCffc7F429dEDF0669aae http://archive.is/ginWq

Bitcointalk username:  L00n3y
Bitcointalk profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=44066
Post count: 354
Rank: Sr. Member
Date of Join: December 2 from the old one thread until now
Bitcoin address: 1ND5z9XjmtwnoKqSxKNuq3TjWsAn9Uh3y
ether address: 0xF01aBC8C9Eb47b59c0Cca4A98a4C922A3e1b608e

l00n3y 0xF01aBC8C9Eb47b59c0Cca4A98a4C922A3e1b608e http://archive.is/Mupui

#JOIN

Bitcointalk username: Lecam
Forum rank: Sr. Member
Posts count:  697 + 1 = 698
ETH address: 0x33d5b9575b68AFf6E93D1Aab85F8B853bD22A23C

lecam 0x33d5b9575b68AFf6E93D1Aab85F8B853bD22A23C http://archive.is/R0rB7

Bitcointalk username: burong1
Rank: junior Member
Current post count: 49
Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1156390
Eth address : 0xd9D912E8a14EACA8914cbA41FD40Cf5e4a4dC9d3

burong1 0xd9D912E8a14EACA8914cbA41FD40Cf5e4a4dC9d3 http://archive.is/1ZQQ4


It's not over, there is another alt behind those accounts. When we see on here https://etherscan.io/address/0x9279a86ca5be8be767aac1c0bb12f1cad2947d82#tokentxns


that address has received many UTRUST token deposits...

When we search on UTRUST signature sheet, https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Z7vmnANbyyECG9dQG11m8lnlBvGvfLd5rVJcl_1OW6c/edit#gid=581688320  

Macai 0xe6484504cdf9e4e5af4548ed1ad61f3e75ad16f0 #signature sheet #9
Gandame 0x62a27c6e093e23ee9a6623bf5577f7f75f93f3cb #signature sheet #313 http://archive.is/zTaWG
Wowcoin 0x5740241812f338B0650D59fF2c40C2F82792cba0

Related Addresses:

Code:

0x4cf150adbd95ed35bde9cf5dc5d51c9549f9efa3 
0xE6484504cdf9e4E5AF4548ed1Ad61F3e75ad16f0 
0x5740241812f338B0650D59fF2c40C2F82792cba0 
0xdC874541CB6d8F37338575E8d105A054007eA2A2 
0x81c701Fb2103dcbde6ffD7755397da9561ebFa8e 
0x0cCFe8017FE1F3007f0fCffc7F429dEDF0669aae
0xF01aBC8C9Eb47b59c0Cca4A98a4C922A3e1b608e 
0x33d5b9575b68AFf6E93D1Aab85F8B853bD22A23C 
0xd9D912E8a14EACA8914cbA41FD40Cf5e4a4dC9d3
0x62a27c6e093e23ee9a6623bf5577f7f75f93f3cb

Miscellaneous:
Abusing on various bounties with alts.

P.S this cheater also abusing merit by giving merit to their own alt.
Proofs :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=816788 <- received 5 Merits from Wowcoin

Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg37046279#msg37046279

[Avirunes]

I don't see him accepting these alts into his own campaigns.

Question:
1. What if the manager has his own account at most, can not be trusted.
2. How he accepts participants is himself, not others.

Campaign owners usually don't check this and end up hiring incompetent managers. If you find someone like this then just PM campaign owners about it. I am sure they will think about it and change if they find the evidence solid.

[Murat]

This should be count here too! it looks like pretty_me & Wonder_woman alts too. They didn't receive the payment & said nothing about this on signature thread. At least I would not mark it paid if it's not paid yet.

After reading your post, I checked the Cryptomania campaign and to my surprise, the campaign payments are quite confusing.

I see this proof of payment they have - https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/c35cc5c35fdfd01a43ea3b475d9fa1e1f586b9f777bffcc0173bb2cd0f450886

And there are only 8 output transactions 2 of which only corresponds to two profiles ChrisPop and numanoid

So I checked the other participants, like.

passwordnow - https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/d900b6b0cbf0b7511d993c174fc0edb159cea7701521e3d15cbb2af55c189835

It is his wallet that only in that transaction. I'm guessing why would it have other wallets to be paid to. And I continued checking other profiles like this

Wonder_woman - https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3B9CWGGWHsbFKRbdQ51mgkSoTNe1K8Zgfx

Prettyme - https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3HiPAWGHKnqb7GQ3MXchtzypvRVfVCPCrq

It says Paid on the spreadsheet but isn't really paid on the address sheet.


This is quite sketchy in my opinion or maybe they could explain or something. Will try to investigate further when I have time, maybe others can check.

Here is a screenshot of the spreadsheet . They might change it or something

[YOSHIE]

my question and guess are correct, accepting his Alt, Alt account.
Cheat:

2 Accounts Connected:

1. bakkang
2. Prettyme

Proof:

Username: Prettyme
Bitcointalk Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1094364
Rank: full member
Post count: 351
Bitcoin address: 3HiPAWGHKnqb7GQ3MXchtzypvRVfVCPCrq

http://archive.is/r3lWy

Post by bakkang: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2195541.msg22107797#msg22107797

Twitter campaign

Link to twitter handle: https://mobile.twitter.com/gerald_cabalse
Link to twitter audit: https://www.twitteraudit.com/gerald_cabalse
Link to tweet : https://twitter.com/Narbonne_io/status/910880128909156352
Bitcoin address : 3HiPAWGHKnqb7GQ3MXchtzypvRVfVCPCrq

http://archive.is/04Dr9

Related Addresses:

Code:

Bitcoin address: 3HiPAWGHKnqb7GQ3MXchtzypvRVfVCPCrq

Miscellaneous:

Cheating on and accepting his own Alt account participant.
spreadsheets

http://archive.is/nnCxK

Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185018.msg52468786#msg52468786
Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2195541.msg22107797#msg22107797

Prettyme was my cousin. From the time we started bitcointalk we didn’t know at first that if you send gas to the other account bitcointalk address it will be link us here and was not allowed we didn’t know it will link to accounts.

Grandmother, uncle, aunt, sister, mother. etc.

http://archive.is/8IPrQ
Open a re-campaign with an Alt account.

Topic: 🌈🎰💰CryptoMania Slots Signature Campaign[OPEN]🍋🍉🍇🍒🥭👑

http://archive.is/1ZbWT

[Dontme]

This should be count here too! it looks like pretty_me & Wonder_woman alts too. They didn't receive the payment & said nothing about this on signature thread. At least I would not mark it paid if it's not paid yet.

After reading your post, I checked the Cryptomania campaign and to my surprise, the campaign payments are quite confusing.

I see this proof of payment they have - https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/c35cc5c35fdfd01a43ea3b475d9fa1e1f586b9f777bffcc0173bb2cd0f450886

And there are only 8 output transactions 2 of which only corresponds to two profiles ChrisPop and numanoid

So I checked the other participants, like.

passwordnow - https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/d900b6b0cbf0b7511d993c174fc0edb159cea7701521e3d15cbb2af55c189835

It is his wallet that only in that transaction. I'm guessing why would it have other wallets to be paid to. And I continued checking other profiles like this

Wonder_woman - https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3B9CWGGWHsbFKRbdQ51mgkSoTNe1K8Zgfx

Prettyme - https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/3HiPAWGHKnqb7GQ3MXchtzypvRVfVCPCrq

It says Paid on the spreadsheet but isn't really paid on the address sheet.


This is quite sketchy in my opinion or maybe they could explain or something. Will try to investigate further when I have time, maybe others can check.

Here is a screenshot of the spreadsheet . They might change it or something

You can’t accuse me that I didn’t pay them. I paid them through Coins.ph app wallet. Don’t make accusations that it’s like your always right.

[Murat]

You can’t accuse me that I didn’t pay them. I paid them through Coins.ph app wallet. Don’t make accusations that it’s like your always right.

No one accused that you're not paying the participants.

You cheated bounty campaigns & the campaign you managing right now.

[rosezionjohn]

This should be count here too! it looks like pretty_me & Wonder_woman alts too. They didn't receive the payment & said nothing about this on signature thread. At least I would not mark it paid if it's not paid yet.

-snip

You forgot to read the succeeding comments.

^ I read payment is done thru coinsph. Maybe that'll explain some of the "irregularities".

Thanks for the info. Upon checking, the manager said this

Hello there mate. I’m using an app wallet. Coins.ph. Kindly wait and I will send it right away on this wallet. Thankyou

I did check it, that's probably why there are a lot of unknown transactions. So of all the people that are included in the campaign, the majority are Filipinos? That's quite a coincidence. Hmm. Anyways, just pointing it out.

-snip

It's quite convenient for the users to use a service like coins.ph to distribute the payments. It saves them time and the transaction fees are non-existent so which is good. It's great that they are using that, I wasn't aware the first time I looked into it. Nevertheless, at least they got paid.

[Murat]

You forgot to read the succeeding comments.

Are you an alt of Dontme? You quickly posted the same line ''I paid everyone''.

Coins.ph has a target interval of sending batch transactions at a maximum interval of 2 minutes, if not sooner. - Source

It looks like he didn't send the btc to his alts maybe he was trying to be smart. I think dontme & his alts need to read this whole thread carefully.   

[rosezionjohn]

You forgot to read the succeeding comments.

Are you an alt of Dontme? You quickly posted the same line ''I paid everyone''.

Coins.ph has a target interval of sending batch transactions at a maximum interval of 2 minutes, if not sooner. - Source

It looks like he didn't send the btc to his alts maybe he was trying to be smart. I think dontme & his alts need to read this whole thread carefully.    

Alt? Nope. My application was rejected in my first attempt (week 1). I went to the thread you quoted and read the previous replies which you did not include. The person you quoted also acknowledged payments were made. I am not that familiar with the technicalities of coinsph but from what I understand, if both the sender and the receiver uses coinsph generated addresses, you don't see the transaction on the blockchain. Only a reference ID on the app will be shown.  

[Murat]

I am not that familiar with the technicalities of coinsph but from what I understand, if both the sender and the receiver uses coinsph generated addresses, you don't see the transaction on the blockchain. Only a reference ID on the app will be shown.  

All Coins transactions are settled in Bitcoin using Blockchain technology.

https://support.coins.ph/hc/en-us/articles/206113102?input_string=transactions

I emailed them to know more info about this.

[Dontme]

I am not that familiar with the technicalities of coinsph but from what I understand, if both the sender and the receiver uses coinsph generated addresses, you don't see the transaction on the blockchain. Only a reference ID on the app will be shown.  

All Coins transactions are settled in Bitcoin using Blockchain technology.

https://support.coins.ph/hc/en-us/articles/206113102?input_string=transactions

I emailed them to know more info about this.

Pilipinos are using coins.ph and some of the participants are also Pilipino. Do I need to send my coins.ph history in order for you to believe it. You are free to ask conis.ph services and I can surely tell this. I paid the participants right and the payment was sent on their wallet successfully.

[rosezionjohn]

I am not that familiar with the technicalities of coinsph but from what I understand, if both the sender and the receiver uses coinsph generated addresses, you don't see the transaction on the blockchain. Only a reference ID on the app will be shown.  

All Coins transactions are settled in Bitcoin using Blockchain technology.

https://support.coins.ph/hc/en-us/articles/206113102?input_string=transactions

I emailed them to know more info about this.

It looks like it. Here is one of the comments in our local board where majority are coinsph users.

...hindi coins.ph to coins.ph ang transfer para maipost na din ang transaction ID for reference ng loan just incase meron hindi magbayad madali mapulahan

Actually kahit coins.ph to coins.ph makikita yun sa blockchain and maipopost din ang transaction ID... Once na posted na sya click mo lang yung transaction details then lalabas na dun ng TXID



And just in case na PESO to PESO... may reference ID din si coins.ph.
Just a Reminder: Makipagtransact lang po tayo dun sa Verified User ni Coins.ph...

Actually, the transaction can still be seen on the blockchain even if its coinsph to coinsph and you can still post the transaction ID....Once posted, just click transaction details then the TXID will appear. (tried my best with the translation)



@Dontme how about following the guide from cabalism13 (see above) to show the payment transactions from coins.ph and update the spreadsheet? This may settle the non-payment issue.

[Murat]

Pilipinos are using coins.ph and some of the participants are also Pilipino. Do I need to send my coins.ph history in order for you to believe it.

So you want to prove that you send payment to your alts?

Prove us -

1. The accounts listed are not connected with you.

2. Prettyme is not your alt account.

[Dontme]

Pilipinos are using coins.ph and some of the participants are also Pilipino. Do I need to send my coins.ph history in order for you to believe it.

So you want to prove that you send payment to your alts?

Prove us -

1. The accounts listed are not connected with you.

2. Prettyme is not your alt account.

I know it is not right but even how many times I try to tell this no one believe me. Prettyme was my cousin. From the time we started bitcointalk we didn’t know at first that if you send gas to the other account bitcointalk address it will be link us here and was not allowed we didn’t know it will link to accounts. We are still too young in crypto that time.

[PrimeNumber7]

Dontme is clearly not accepting the most qualified candidates into his signature campaign. I applied for his CryptoMania campaign, was not accepted, and looking at who was accepted, I was passed over for multiple people with no merit received. 

[logfiles]

I know it is not right but even how many times I try to tell this no one believe me. Prettyme was my cousin. From the time we started bitcointalk we didn’t know at first that if you send gas to the other account bitcointalk address it will be link us here and was not allowed we didn’t know it will link to accounts. We are still too young in crypto that time.

Nobody is gonna believe the "cousin" excuse even if it were true. Multiple times users who have ever been caught cheating with alts have always used the same excuse of cousin, spouse, siblings to save their skins.
You have to look for another way of proving your accounts are not alts

[Avirunes]

My accusation is correct, accepting his Alt, Alt account.
Cheat:

2 Accounts Connected:

1. bakkang
2. Prettyme

Nice work Yoshie!!. I will start tagging all the accounts listed.

I know it is not right but even how many times I try to tell this no one believe me. Prettyme was my cousin. From the time we started bitcointalk we didn’t know at first that if you send gas to the other account bitcointalk address it will be link us here and was not allowed we didn’t know it will link to accounts. We are still too young in crypto that time.

What would you do if someone in your campaign has multiple accounts and after getting caught gives excuse : "Oh he was my cousin brother/sister.. or whatever"? Would you believe him?

Guess we need to modify rule: "One account each household" maybe just like casinos.  

[crwth]

The person you quoted also acknowledged payments were made.

Is it me you are talking about? I did say that they got paid assuming that the participants didn't complain, as simple as that, but having actual proof that the transaction happened, I don't have that. I don't know if there's a way unless the manager deliberately shares the transactions. All of it. Making sure that it's on the correct timestamps as well.

Dontme is clearly not accepting the most qualified candidates into his signature campaign. I applied for his CryptoMania campaign, was not accepted, and looking at who was accepted, I was passed over for multiple people with no merit received.  

I did notice this while I was scrolling in the page of the CryptoMania thread. There are a lot of usernames that I was familiar but skipped on it. It's like they purposefully accepted the ones that they like or have a connection to.

[legendster]

I know it is not right but even how many times I try to tell this no one believe me. Prettyme was my cousin. From the time we started bitcointalk we didn’t know at first that if you send gas to the other account bitcointalk address it will be link us here and was not allowed we didn’t know it will link to accounts. We are still too young in crypto that time.

Overused rhetoric of alt account being a relative.

At the least, you are guilty of enrolling a family relative to smooch off the project that already employed you. Shame on you.

Don't you know it is unethical for projects to employ their own employees and their related family in a bounty / reward program (which is what every signature campaign is essentially?)

It is even forbidden by law in some places.


I know my tag is not worth it, because I am not on DT and not many people have me in their trust list. But it is better than nothing. Please do not message me to remove this tag.

[crwth]

A new account is created, SlotsCryptoMania, today.

Old thread was locked and content was deleted https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185018.msg52468510#msg52468510

And a new Signature campaign thread was created https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5187424.0

ANNOUNCEMENT!!!
The 1st Signature Campaign Thread was deleted. This will be the new one. We are now again Open for all ranks and we will only accept good quality posters.

What's the verdict? Is it to prevent possible connections on the campaign manager accounts? I don't know. But this is still sketchy.