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Title: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: Istiaque on October 03, 2019, 06:11:26 AM
Are multiple apps available listed google play store what is a useful app easily safe private key? what is the best bitcoin app for mobile?


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: Bountyhonter on October 03, 2019, 06:27:04 AM
what is a useful app easily safe private key?
The best way to safe your private key is offline, make a hard copy written down on a piece of paper or in a private book
what is the best bitcoin app for mobile?
I would recommend a well known offline wallet like Atomic wallet, electrum or myCelium


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: Heisenberg_Hunter on October 03, 2019, 06:29:04 AM
You need to know that there is no such thing known as bitcoin account. There are only wallets which hold the private keys to spend the bitcoin by signing the transaction. The private keys can be used in various platforms and in various wallets just by importing the keys.

If you are concerned with the control over your coins, you should go with Mycelium present in Google Play. They are one among the most trusted wallets present in the market and they have been considered safe in holding your keys. Another thing is that, if you have higher amount of coins, you should be going with setting up a cold wallet which shouldn't be connected to internet.

I don't or would never trust any other mobile wallets apart from Mycelium. Once you have created the wallet, write down the 12 word passphrase provided by the wallet software and they would be helpful to restore the keys in other platforms.

Other than that, some of the trusted wallets can be found here :Choose your Bitcoin Android Wallet (https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet?step=5&platform=android)

The best way to safe your private key is offline, make a hard copy written down on a piece of paper or in a private book
I would recommend a well known offline wallet like Atomic wallet, electrum or myCelium
We need to have a little amount of btc in an online wallet or a mobile wallet to spend as and when we like to spend for transactions.
AFAIK electrum would be good and can be trusted only for Desktop based wallets. Eclair wallet can be used for Lightning Network based transactions.


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: squatter on October 03, 2019, 06:48:10 AM
I don't or would never trust any other mobile wallets apart from Mycelium.

As far as Android mobile wallets go, I agree that Mycelium is the best option available. With iOS, I'm partial to Airbitz (rebranded as Edge). I wish I could endorse Electrum since I love it on desktop, but as a mobile app it has a really long way to go.


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: Saint-loup on October 03, 2019, 07:22:51 AM
Are multiple apps available listed google play store what is a useful app easily safe private key? what is the best bitcoin app for mobile?
Currently the safest app on mobile is definitely Samsung Blockchain Keystore. But it's only available on the latest Samsung Galaxy smartphones.
Electrum wallet is a famous and reputed one used by many people.

AFAIK electrum would be good and can be trusted only for Desktop based wallets.
  ??? Where did you see that please?


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: Istiaque on October 03, 2019, 07:26:13 AM
Just now Installed Mycelium from Google play store.

Account 1
3QkCxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
SegWit compatible (P2SH)

Updates
Mycelium Wallet
version 3.0.0.23

How can I understand it is original or false?


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: jseverson on October 03, 2019, 07:48:53 AM
Just now Installed Mycelium from Google play store.

Account 1
3QkCGmyPcQbBHPLtpzNevkYHAyYixn6WcU
SegWit compatible (P2SH)

Updates
Mycelium Wallet
version 3.0.0.23

How can I understand it is original or false?


Do you mean you want to know if the one you downloaded is legit or not? If this is the same one you downloaded, it's legit:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mycelium.wallet

We can't really tell by the info you provided, so you have to check by yourself by opening that link on your phone.


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: Istiaque on October 03, 2019, 08:06:58 AM
jseverson,
download the same app last updated 23 Sep 2019.
Can't upload my screenshot.


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: mk4 on October 03, 2019, 08:43:05 AM
jseverson,
download the same app last updated 23 Sep 2019.
Can't upload my screenshot.

As long as you've downloaded the Mycelium app from the PlayStore link he linked, you should be fine. Also, please edit out and remove the bitcoin address from your previous reply, for your privacy's sake. You wouldn't want people snoopin around on how much BTC you have.
Just now Installed Mycelium from Google play store.

Account 1
3xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
SegWit compatible (P2SH)


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: Taskford on October 03, 2019, 08:56:10 AM
The best app for your needs is electrum  and  mycelium you can safely store your bits there but I love to use the exodus wallet since it's more convenient to use since I can exchange my BTC to any alts I like to deal with, But I suggest you should research first and find the wallet which can give you a convenience and if you want to know more about Exodus wallet then feel to research the information about them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: Saint-loup on October 03, 2019, 09:01:03 AM
Just now Installed Mycelium from Google play store.

Account 1
3QkCGmyPcQbBHPLtpzNevkYHAyYixn6WcU
SegWit compatible (P2SH)

Updates
Mycelium Wallet
version 3.0.0.23

How can I understand it is original or false?

To check if it's the original app you can use Checkey from the Guardian Project.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=info.guardianproject.checkey

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Checkey is a utility for getting information about the APKs that are installed on your device. Starting with a list of all of the apps that you have installed on your device, it will show you the APK signature with a single touch, and provides links to virustotal.com and androidobservatory.org to easily access the profiles of that APK...


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: evgenia_volkova on October 03, 2019, 11:20:00 AM
Copay, Enjin and many more but, Hardware wallets is best. May be little costly but, they are worth it. Store your private key offline do not trust any app helping you store it online.

There is this famous saying:
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One who has the private key is the owner of the funds


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: vlasrodz on October 03, 2019, 12:29:53 PM
what is a useful app easily safe private key?
The best way to safe your private key is offline, make a hard copy written down on a piece of paper or in a private book
what is the best bitcoin app for mobile?
I would recommend a well known offline wallet like Atomic wallet, electrum or myCelium

Hi man
Are u sure about Electrum? Im trying this one and was not 100 percent satisfied with him.


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: notblox1 on October 03, 2019, 01:12:22 PM
There is no 'Bitcoin account'.
You can use wallets that support Bitcoin, for mobile or dekstop.

Comparison and more information you can find on bitcoin.org website:

for android
https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet?step=5&platform=android
for iOS
https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet?step=5&platform=ios

Electrum or BRD are best options you have at the moment


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: TryNinja on October 03, 2019, 01:12:30 PM
No one suggested Samourai, so here I go. It's honestly the best BTC android wallet (sadly, it has no iOS support). It's all privacy focus based, open source, pro-BTC and has some cool features.

https://samouraiwallet.com/

Are u sure about Electrum? Im trying this one and was not 100 percent satisfied with him.
Electrum mobile isn't that good as their desktop version, but it works fine. What did you miss on it/what problems did you have with it?


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: fakefrombot on October 03, 2019, 02:17:07 PM
Not all mobile wallets gives you private key. Some of them don't store your bitcoin on your wallet but on theirs. So you are not 100% controlling your assets. Personally I recommend you to generate your own wallet on bitaddress.org (http://bitaddress.org) and then install blockchain.com (http://blockchain.com) mobile app and import your generated wallet to it. Also do not forget to save your private key on removable disk (SD card for example). Blockchain.com wallet is good because they don't store your private key at all. So even if its got hacked your assets will not accessible for hackers.


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: Malvika_sitlani on October 03, 2019, 02:19:31 PM
Bitcoin is the most popular coin in the crypto industry. So it is important to keep your coins securely so that you don't lose it. Moreover, you have to be extra careful if you are keeping your wallet on your android device.

Still, you can refer to some wallets for your android device.

  • Ledger nano x- (It is not a mobile wallet but someone can access through mobile app and it is the most secure wallet but the only drawback is you have to carry the required device and it is a malware proof device so there is no risk that the private keys to get exposed to the internet)
  • Coinomi- (It is a popular wallet that supports multiple cryptocurrencies which allows simple backup and private keys the only drawback is it is not open source).
  • Mycelium:(It is the most popular wallet for android and it supports offline hardware wallet also)

So choose the BTC wallet which has an easy user interface and feasible for your device.


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: Sancho18 on October 03, 2019, 02:52:20 PM
Are multiple apps available listed google play store what is a useful app easily safe private key? what is the best bitcoin app for mobile?
It is not a good idea to trust your smartphone too much. It may be convenient, but convenience often comes at the expense of security. If you are tolerance to the risk of losing your bitcoins, you can use any of the wallets proposed above that allow you to control the private key. Perhaps a better solution for android is a ledger nano s + otg-cable (or ledger nano x).


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: legendster on October 03, 2019, 07:58:23 PM
Like you've already heard that there is no such thing as a Bitcoin account.

Now I can pretty much assume you said that by mistake since you are new, you just don't know the terminology for everything yet.

Anyways,

Many people will suggest you to get Mycellium, which is good, but I do not like them one bit.

For me, the best wallet to use on mobile is Green (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greenaddress.greenbits_android_wallet&hl=en_IN) (previously known as Greenwallet)

And when it comes to multi-wallet, I'd suggest you to go with Atomic wallet (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.atomicwallet&hl=en_IN)

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Mind you Atomic Wallet's desktop version is bugged, as I stated here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5189783.0), although I am not sure if this bug is recreatable for everyone.


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: squatter on October 03, 2019, 08:50:46 PM
No one suggested Samourai, so here I go. It's honestly the best BTC android wallet (sadly, it has no iOS support). It's all privacy focus based, open source, pro-BTC and has some cool features.

Are u sure about Electrum? Im trying this one and was not 100 percent satisfied with him.
Electrum mobile isn't that good as their desktop version, but it works fine. What did you miss on it/what problems did you have with it?

It's been over a year since I tried it, but at the time it repeatedly crashed on me. It also exhibited some annoying bugs -- this one I remember (https://www.reddit.com/r/Electrum/comments/6qak5k/electrum_mobile_bugsissues/dkvscsj/). I imagine some of the kinks have been worked out but I'm not surprised at its mediocre rating in the Google Play store.

Thanks for the suggestion to try Samourai. I've been meaning to check it out.


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: TryNinja on October 03, 2019, 09:35:09 PM
It's been over a year since I tried it, but at the time it repeatedly crashed on me. It also exhibited some annoying bugs -- this one I remember (https://www.reddit.com/r/Electrum/comments/6qak5k/electrum_mobile_bugsissues/dkvscsj/). I imagine some of the kinks have been worked out but I'm not surprised at its mediocre rating in the Google Play store.

Thanks for the suggestion to try Samourai. I've been meaning to check it out.
Well, the wallet was in its early alpha. Also, about what rating are you talking about? The app is in early access and doesn't show any ratings for me (AFAIK only the devs should be able to see it while isn't not fully released for production).

Compared to every other wallet in the Play Store, I can't find any other better (and their devs are nice and pro-BTC).


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: Heisenberg_Hunter on October 04, 2019, 05:54:44 AM
Where did you see that please?
The first and foremost thing is that, if we have a PC we should be going up for a Desktop wallet if we are storing large sums of btc in them. Mobile Wallets are certainly used for immediate payments while we are away from our PC as they don't give us full control over our coins. Regarding the Electrum Mobile Wallet, they have some nasty bugs with them like

  • Next button is greyed out for most of the time and even after entering the seed the next button doesn't get displayed
  • The wallet crashes for most of the time while I try to import the seed.
  • Connecting with a bad server which is offline for almost all the time.
  • Has the worst totally outdated GUI for every releases
  • Mediocre ratings on playstore as suggested by squatter

These options are more than enough for me to not use/trust the Electrum Mobile Wallet and to go with Mycelium. Right since I received my first satoshis I have been using the Electrum Desktop wallet and expecting the same for Mobile is not advaisable IMO. Mobile Wallets are handy but if they don't serve the purpose of being handy there is no use in using the wallet.

We better should not compare Electrum desktop and mobile wallets (which has issues with them and you can't really deny the fact).


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: Saint-loup on October 04, 2019, 07:43:57 AM
Where did you see that please?
The first and foremost thing is that, if we have a PC we should be going up for a Desktop wallet if we are storing large sums of btc in them. Mobile Wallets are certainly used for immediate payments while we are away from our PC as they don't give us full control over our coins. Regarding the Electrum Mobile Wallet, they have some nasty bugs with them like

  • Next button is greyed out for most of the time and even after entering the seed the next button doesn't get displayed
  • The wallet crashes for most of the time while I try to import the seed.
  • Connecting with a bad server which is offline for almost all the time.
  • Has the worst totally outdated GUI for every releases
  • Mediocre ratings on playstore as suggested by squatter

These options are more than enough for me to not use/trust the Electrum Mobile Wallet and to go with Mycelium. Right since I received my first satoshis I have been using the Electrum Desktop wallet and expecting the same for Mobile is not advaisable IMO. Mobile Wallets are handy but if they don't serve the purpose of being handy there is no use in using the wallet.

We better should not compare Electrum desktop and mobile wallets (which has issues with them and you can't really deny the fact).
Thank you for your explanations Heisenberg_hunter. For the Next button it must be because your seed is not in the right format, that is to say either the old format of electrum(before 2.0 version) or the bip39 format(Electrum mobile doesn't support bip39 as of now but it will in the next version as I know). For the other bugs you mentioned, I didn't experience them so they maybe belong to former versions.


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: Alluro on October 04, 2019, 10:05:20 AM
Bitcoin app means you need a Bitcoin wallet right? https://bitcoin.org/en/choose-your-wallet has listed so many options. You can choose your wallet by the operating system, user type, criteria and features. You can get all the wallets from their official sites.


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: squatter on October 04, 2019, 07:36:32 PM
It's been over a year since I tried it, but at the time it repeatedly crashed on me. It also exhibited some annoying bugs -- this one I remember (https://www.reddit.com/r/Electrum/comments/6qak5k/electrum_mobile_bugsissues/dkvscsj/). I imagine some of the kinks have been worked out but I'm not surprised at its mediocre rating in the Google Play store.

Thanks for the suggestion to try Samourai. I've been meaning to check it out.
Well, the wallet was in its early alpha. Also, about what rating are you talking about? The app is in early access and doesn't show any ratings for me (AFAIK only the devs should be able to see it while isn't not fully released for production).

Compared to every other wallet in the Play Store, I can't find any other better (and their devs are nice and pro-BTC).

The rating in the Google Play store -- I see a 3.6:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.electrum.electrum

Like I said, it was a long time ago. I switched to Mycelium on someone's recommendation and just stuck with it because it worked. I hardly ever use my Android anyway.


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: TryNinja on October 04, 2019, 07:38:42 PM
The rating in the Google Play store -- I see a 3.6:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.electrum.electrum

Like I said, it was a long time ago. I switched to Mycelium on someone's recommendation and just stuck with it because it worked. I hardly ever use my Android anyway.
Ah, you're talking about Electrum. I suggested Samourai and you replied with the ratings stuff, that's why I thought you were talking about it. In that case, it really doesn't have any ratings since it's in Google Play's early access.


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: Orange Mango on October 04, 2019, 11:38:24 PM
I don't or would never trust any other mobile wallets apart from Mycelium.

As far as Android mobile wallets go, I agree that Mycelium is the best option available. With iOS, I'm partial to Airbitz (rebranded as Edge). I wish I could endorse Electrum since I love it on desktop, but as a mobile app it has a really long way to go.

I say so too. I don't trust many wallets but electrum and mycelium are good ones. The electrum on mobile gives that new funny address and you can't send easily. Or was that receive? One of the two. Anyway it was annoying. I also like Exodus desktop wallet since it has multiple currencies.


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: Henri Cartier on October 05, 2019, 03:40:24 AM
Are multiple apps available listed google play store what is a useful app easily safe private key? what is the best bitcoin app for mobile?

Not sure which Mobile you are using - Android or iOS, but I found articles which contains best bitcoin wallets for Android (https://coinswitch.co/news/top-8-best-bitcoin-wallets-for-android-in-2019-updated) and bitcoin wallets for iOS (https://coinswitch.co/news/top-6-best-bitcoin-wallets-for-ios-in-2019-updated). You can refer these and install one which you want.

Mobile wallets are easy to store bitcoins but when security is concerned, it is good to use either paper wallet or hardware wallet.


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: The3max on October 05, 2019, 12:23:59 PM
There are a lot of BTC hosting apps on mobile, both androi and ios, I recommend using secure and reputable apps like Trust Wallet, coinbase, and bloclchain. In addition, many applications containing malicious, insecure and fraud appear on the app store, please understand it carefully and be careful.


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: MFahad on October 05, 2019, 02:29:47 PM
Are multiple apps available listed google play store what is a useful app easily safe private key? what is the best bitcoin app for mobile?

I do not trust the play store app because anyone can make a fake app and scam you.  iOS apps are still better as those are published after verification.
Bread wallet is the best iOS wallet but still do not store all of your money in phone wallets. They are subjected to risk and also can be stolen easily.
Although apple iphones are safe even if they are stolen because they have better security but its better we do not take any risk with our bitcoins.


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: smyslov on October 05, 2019, 02:56:54 PM
Are multiple apps available listed google play store what is a useful app easily safe private key? what is the best bitcoin app for mobile?

I never use mobile App to my coins, what if you lose your wallet and the one who find it knows how to open and get access to your wallet, it's really not safe to use any mobile wallet, get a hardware wallet, it's not cheap but it's worth it, or get MyCrypto desktop wallet I've used it as my alternative wallet and I'm ok with it compare to mobile and online wallet.


Title: Re: Bitcoin account my mobile
Post by: Taskford on October 05, 2019, 03:23:02 PM
Are multiple apps available listed google play store what is a useful app easily safe private key? what is the best bitcoin app for mobile?

I do not trust the play store app because anyone can make a fake app and scam you.  iOS apps are still better as those are published after verification.
Bread wallet is the best iOS wallet but still do not store all of your money in phone wallets. They are subjected to risk and also can be stolen easily.
Although apple iphones are safe even if they are stolen because they have better security but its better we do not take any risk with our bitcoins.

If you didn't do a research then you will be compromised by the fake apps scattered on google play but if you do directly with there site and download there respective apps then you will be fine, and also make sure you didn't any malicious thing that might compromise your safety and always secure your device with 2fa so that the hacker cannot easily send your balance since the security of your phone is so tightened.