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Title: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: PopoJeff on October 15, 2019, 11:57:35 AM
https://youtu.be/m7XZmugtLv4

Above is the link to the video. CNN employee tapes conversations of the bosses who no longer give a crap about honest reporting with integrity. They only want to bash Trump and republicans.

This is no surprise to anyone. But offers confirmation about their reporting motives.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: Juggy777 on October 15, 2019, 01:03:37 PM
https://youtu.be/m7XZmugtLv4

Above is the link to the video. CNN employee tapes conversations of the bosses who no longer give a crap about honest reporting with integrity. They only want to bash Trump and republicans.

This is no surprise to anyone. But offers confirmation about their reporting motives.

@PopoJeff when I opened this thread I believed this would be another fake news, but then I saw the entire 19 minute video and I realised this was real. It’s hard to believe but Trump was right all along, he kept screaming that media houses were against him and today it has been proved that he was correct. I’m expecting some fiery tweets from Trump, as he won’t let this news die.

Source: https://www.foxnews.com/media/project-veritass-alleged-cnn-whistleblower-says-network-is-pumping-out-propaganda


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: squatz1 on October 15, 2019, 02:44:44 PM
Just know  that project veritas videos are typically plagued with a large amount of cuts and edits to make things look worse then they actually do. Not saying that this is the case in this video, or that it should take away from the effects of what is going on -- because it is pretty wild to think about this.

But remember that everyone has a bias and there is a reason for everyone sharing what they do.

Imagine what Tucker and the rest of the people at fox say about Clinton (and Dems) behind the scenes.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: PopoJeff on October 15, 2019, 02:48:01 PM
https://youtu.be/m7XZmugtLv4

Above is the link to the video. CNN employee tapes conversations of the bosses who no longer give a crap about honest reporting with integrity. They only want to bash Trump and republicans.

This is no surprise to anyone. But offers confirmation about their reporting motives.

@PopoJeff when I opened this thread I believed this would be another fake news, but then I saw the entire 19 minute video and I realised this was real. It’s hard to believe but Trump was right all along, he kept screaming that media houses were against him and today it has been proved that he was correct. I’m expecting some fiery tweets from Trump, as he won’t let this news die.

Source: https://www.foxnews.com/media/project-veritass-alleged-cnn-whistleblower-says-network-is-pumping-out-propaganda

If you've been watching the news as long as I have, it was quite obvious.   I know the leftists defend it and accuse anyone who says otherwise of being a conspiracy theorist, but it was blatantly apparent starting a few years back.  
   They weren't too hard on the Bush's or Reagan. Weren't too over-the-top kissing butt on Bill.  
   I noticed the changes during Obama's terms. He could do no wrong and when he did, they downplayed it. He sent 21mil cash to Iran. Hillary sold uranium to Russia, and in return, received a little extra cash in her personal life. So now Iran can buy Uranium from Russia, and use it against the US.
   If any of that same stuff was done by someone with "R-" before their name, it would've been reported by CNN as treason. Yet they white-washed it.

  It is what it is.... and its really no surprise to those of us that can see the blatant bias.

And one of the reasons I stopped paying for cable TV a few years ago.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: DaveWave on October 15, 2019, 02:55:22 PM
Many lost their money when Hillary Clinton lost that presidential elections against Trump. Trump was a heavy underdog when it comes to media talks and news. The betting odds look the same as the what the media portrait it is. I wish I did a bet on Trump that time because I felt it was a bit closer than in the news but still an underdog.

Media being bias, misleading and their mind conditioning strategies are actually normal as they are serving what benefits them and their sponsors most. Looking at this video just brings us back into reality and some deep realizations.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: PopoJeff on October 15, 2019, 02:56:09 PM
Just know  that project veritas videos are typically plagued with a large amount of cuts and edits to make things look worse then they actually do. Not saying that this is the case in this video, or that it should take away from the effects of what is going on -- because it is pretty wild to think about this.

But remember that everyone has a bias and there is a reason for everyone sharing what they do.

Imagine what Tucker and the rest of the people at fox say about Clinton (and Dems) behind the scenes.

Yes, Veritas likes to play up the "oh my" drama.  I tune that out and just listen to the evidence and not their commentary.

Obviously FOX was swinging right, but not so much anymore. Seems like they tried to balance it out with Donna Brazil's and Sam Sheppard. And there always that black guy (forget his name) who did a decent job of debating the right-swingers with his opposing left view.

But the point of this is not to point fingers...... "CNN does this, but look what FOX does".   Thats a child's fight akin to "I know I was wrong, but look what they did."  I'm not talking about them, I talking about you.

My point in posting this video is because anyone who said CNN was unfairly slanted was immediately lambasted with its leftist defenders rolling their eyes and calling them conspiracy theorists.  

They're wrong. CNN is biased.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: TECSHARE on October 15, 2019, 03:12:01 PM
Just know  that project veritas videos are typically plagued with a large amount of cuts and edits to make things look worse then they actually do. Not saying that this is the case in this video, or that it should take away from the effects of what is going on -- because it is pretty wild to think about this.

But remember that everyone has a bias and there is a reason for everyone sharing what they do.

Imagine what Tucker and the rest of the people at fox say about Clinton (and Dems) behind the scenes.

Project Veritas does great work. The concept of bias is fair. What is not fair is this idea that they deceptively edit videos. This is something dreamed up as damage control after abortion clinics got caught laughing about how profitable selling baby meat is, and they needed something, ANYTHING  to distract from the revelations. This concept that they deceptively edit videos is just regurgitation of establishment media talking points.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: KingScorpio on October 15, 2019, 06:49:26 PM
https://youtu.be/m7XZmugtLv4

Above is the link to the video. CNN employee tapes conversations of the bosses who no longer give a crap about honest reporting with integrity. They only want to bash Trump and republicans.

This is no surprise to anyone. But offers confirmation about their reporting motives.

american elite is so damn screwed thanks to trump.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: PopoJeff on October 15, 2019, 06:58:32 PM
Oh and here's ABC news "accidentally" airing the wrong footage of Turkey attacking Syria. But it was actually footage from a private 'shoot-guns/blow-up-stuff" event in the US

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2019/10/15/abc-news-airs-knob-creek-kentucky-gun-range-video-as-syria-bombing/3976328002/


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: clickerz on October 15, 2019, 07:31:42 PM
Many lost their money when Hillary Clinton lost that presidential elections against Trump. Trump was a heavy underdog when it comes to media talks and news. The betting odds look the same as the what the media portrait it is. I wish I did a bet on Trump that time because I felt it was a bit closer than in the news but still an underdog.

Media being bias, misleading and their mind conditioning strategies are actually normal as they are serving what benefits them and their sponsors most. Looking at this video just brings us back into reality and some deep realizations.

Correct, many bet on Hillary  since  she is very popular during the campaign. So sad to them that Hillary lost.  :D Media is always biased to Trump, and this 19 minute video expose them. Unlucky for  Pres. Trump that he is not popular president, and media also play an important role here.Most of his decisions/policies  are meet with criticisms and many controversies.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: TECSHARE on October 15, 2019, 08:12:52 PM
Oh and here's ABC news "accidentally" airing the wrong footage of Turkey attacking Syria. But it was actually footage from a private 'shoot-guns/blow-up-stuff" event in the US

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2019/10/15/abc-news-airs-knob-creek-kentucky-gun-range-video-as-syria-bombing/3976328002/

I like how they picked Knob Creek, the biggest most recognizable shooting event in the US.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: KingScorpio on October 15, 2019, 09:21:37 PM
https://youtu.be/m7XZmugtLv4

Above is the link to the video. CNN employee tapes conversations of the bosses who no longer give a crap about honest reporting with integrity. They only want to bash Trump and republicans.

This is no surprise to anyone. But offers confirmation about their reporting motives.

CNN is a far right media, not leftist.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: PopoJeff on October 15, 2019, 10:30:46 PM
https://youtu.be/m7XZmugtLv4

Above is the link to the video. CNN employee tapes conversations of the bosses who no longer give a crap about honest reporting with integrity. They only want to bash Trump and republicans.

This is no surprise to anyone. But offers confirmation about their reporting motives.

CNN is a far right media, not leftist.

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Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: acroman08 on October 15, 2019, 10:50:46 PM
https://youtu.be/m7XZmugtLv4

Above is the link to the video. CNN employee tapes conversations of the bosses who no longer give a crap about honest reporting with integrity. They only want to bash Trump and republicans.

This is no surprise to anyone. But offers confirmation about their reporting motives.

it really is not a surprise but what concerns me is that there are people who will still support it and think it is necessary and okay to do in order to push their agenda but these things work both ways.
that's why I hate politics they think they have the higher moral ground when in reality they are all the same. cunning, user,manipulator, etc... and I laugh at them when they says the other group
is fighting unfairly or using underhanded tactics to ruin their campaign etc..


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: Spendulus on October 15, 2019, 11:17:31 PM
Oh and here's ABC news "accidentally" airing the wrong footage of Turkey attacking Syria. But it was actually footage from a private 'shoot-guns/blow-up-stuff" event in the US

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2019/10/15/abc-news-airs-knob-creek-kentucky-gun-range-video-as-syria-bombing/3976328002/

I like how they picked Knob Creek, the biggest most recognizable shooting event in the US.

We do need more private 'shoot-guns/blow-stuff-up' organized, peaceful a d civil events here in the US.

Now what's proven? CNN is stupider than dogshit and our shoot-ups for fun are more badass than Turkey attacking Syria? I might get confused here...


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: DaveWave on October 16, 2019, 04:27:37 AM
Many lost their money when Hillary Clinton lost that presidential elections against Trump. Trump was a heavy underdog when it comes to media talks and news. The betting odds look the same as the what the media portrait it is. I wish I did a bet on Trump that time because I felt it was a bit closer than in the news but still an underdog.

Media being bias, misleading and their mind conditioning strategies are actually normal as they are serving what benefits them and their sponsors most. Looking at this video just brings us back into reality and some deep realizations.

Correct, many bet on Hillary  since  she is very popular during the campaign. So sad to them that Hillary lost.  :D Media is always biased to Trump, and this 19 minute video expose them. Unlucky for  Pres. Trump that he is not popular president, and media also play an important role here.Most of his decisions/policies  are meet with criticisms and many controversies.

To be fair, Trump does have too many surprising decisions and odd movements as a president. Just like this present and continuing Turkish invasion in northern Syria and massacring the Kurds. This didn't helped him as mainstream media is also making it look worse. But I don't think he will be impeached, not in his first term in office. 


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: Viper1 on October 16, 2019, 08:26:43 AM
https://youtu.be/m7XZmugtLv4

Above is the link to the video. CNN employee tapes conversations of the bosses who no longer give a crap about honest reporting with integrity. They only want to bash Trump and republicans.

This is no surprise to anyone. But offers confirmation about their reporting motives.
While bias is obvious, I don't see any proof of anything in there. Lots of guys having beers saying what they "think", not know as fact. No "smoking gun" type of thing. And as for the calls with Zucker etc, all I saw was cherry picked fragments. Context is everything and unless we hear everything they talked about, we can't get a clear picture. For example. The left went all crazy over that parody video of Trump taking out his foes in the church. I went and looked at a bunch of videos that guy/group have done and came away with the impression that it's nothing more than hero worship type of stuff, not that we need to "kill" the media or "enemies".

So is there a veritas video of the same sort of thing for FOX? Would LOVE to see that one as it would be a hell of a lot of fun. Somehow I doubt they have or would do one.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: clickerz on October 16, 2019, 09:43:51 AM
https://youtu.be/m7XZmugtLv4

Above is the link to the video. CNN employee tapes conversations of the bosses who no longer give a crap about honest reporting with integrity. They only want to bash Trump and republicans.

This is no surprise to anyone. But offers confirmation about their reporting motives.

american elite is so damn screwed thanks to trump.

You got it!  :D Now they are angrier day by day and doing what they can do to oust Trump.They  want power,to control and protect their interest. When Trump won,they launch an attack on him since day 1 until recently they want to impeach. Thats politics, hope they can find a great contender for the next upcoming election.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: Astargath on October 16, 2019, 10:45:28 AM
https://youtu.be/m7XZmugtLv4

Above is the link to the video. CNN employee tapes conversations of the bosses who no longer give a crap about honest reporting with integrity. They only want to bash Trump and republicans.

This is no surprise to anyone. But offers confirmation about their reporting motives.
While bias is obvious, I don't see any proof of anything in there. Lots of guys having beers saying what they "think", not know as fact. No "smoking gun" type of thing. And as for the calls with Zucker etc, all I saw was cherry picked fragments. Context is everything and unless we hear everything they talked about, we can't get a clear picture. For example. The left went all crazy over that parody video of Trump taking out his foes in the church. I went and looked at a bunch of videos that guy/group have done and came away with the impression that it's nothing more than hero worship type of stuff, not that we need to "kill" the media or "enemies".

So is there a veritas video of the same sort of thing for FOX? Would LOVE to see that one as it would be a hell of a lot of fun. Somehow I doubt they have or would do one.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgMOBWXusYU

Hmm... you don't see proof of anything? The president of CNN, Zucker, literally telling people what to cover is not proof? He literally said, let's just keep covering the impeachment or hey, let's do this stupid story on Trump getting suspended on twitter, it's never going to happen, but let's do it. Are you a liberal? XD


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: Viper1 on October 16, 2019, 11:03:08 AM
https://youtu.be/m7XZmugtLv4

Above is the link to the video. CNN employee tapes conversations of the bosses who no longer give a crap about honest reporting with integrity. They only want to bash Trump and republicans.

This is no surprise to anyone. But offers confirmation about their reporting motives.
While bias is obvious, I don't see any proof of anything in there. Lots of guys having beers saying what they "think", not know as fact. No "smoking gun" type of thing. And as for the calls with Zucker etc, all I saw was cherry picked fragments. Context is everything and unless we hear everything they talked about, we can't get a clear picture. For example. The left went all crazy over that parody video of Trump taking out his foes in the church. I went and looked at a bunch of videos that guy/group have done and came away with the impression that it's nothing more than hero worship type of stuff, not that we need to "kill" the media or "enemies".

So is there a veritas video of the same sort of thing for FOX? Would LOVE to see that one as it would be a hell of a lot of fun. Somehow I doubt they have or would do one.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgMOBWXusYU

Hmm... you don't see proof of anything? The president of CNN, Zucker, literally telling people what to cover is not proof? He literally said, let's just keep covering the impeachment or hey, let's do this stupid story on Trump getting suspended on twitter, it's never going to happen, but let's do it.

ummmm.... yeah, that's his job, to set the direction for them, just as Murdoch does at FOX... and once again, the video cherry picked those specific things. What other stories did he tell them to put out besides the twitter thing? Of course they're not going to show any of that cause all they wanted to show was specific stuff about Trump as that's the message they want to put out.

I already said it's clear that CNN presents a bias just as everyone else does. It makes me sad what's happened with them over the last 4 years or so.

Here's the thing.. the video is labeled with "...  Jeff Zucker’s Personal Vendetta Against POTUS". There was no proof of that, just people's opinion that they think he hates Trump. The only thing I could maybe say is that he views FOX as bad for america and so is positioning things to combat that. That would be a really stupid idea as being biased to fight against bias is a losing strategy. But that's what happens when people get emotional and don't think rationally.

Part two is labeled "...CNN Leadership Picks Winners and Losers on Eve of Debate...". Again, no proof of that.

And also ".... They(CNN) like Warren a lot". No proof, just some guy saying what he thinks.

Maybe you should look at things objectively... for what they are, as opposed to looking for confirmation bias or what they want all the sheep to think.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: Astargath on October 16, 2019, 11:38:28 AM
https://youtu.be/m7XZmugtLv4

Above is the link to the video. CNN employee tapes conversations of the bosses who no longer give a crap about honest reporting with integrity. They only want to bash Trump and republicans.

This is no surprise to anyone. But offers confirmation about their reporting motives.
While bias is obvious, I don't see any proof of anything in there. Lots of guys having beers saying what they "think", not know as fact. No "smoking gun" type of thing. And as for the calls with Zucker etc, all I saw was cherry picked fragments. Context is everything and unless we hear everything they talked about, we can't get a clear picture. For example. The left went all crazy over that parody video of Trump taking out his foes in the church. I went and looked at a bunch of videos that guy/group have done and came away with the impression that it's nothing more than hero worship type of stuff, not that we need to "kill" the media or "enemies".

So is there a veritas video of the same sort of thing for FOX? Would LOVE to see that one as it would be a hell of a lot of fun. Somehow I doubt they have or would do one.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgMOBWXusYU

Hmm... you don't see proof of anything? The president of CNN, Zucker, literally telling people what to cover is not proof? He literally said, let's just keep covering the impeachment or hey, let's do this stupid story on Trump getting suspended on twitter, it's never going to happen, but let's do it.

ummmm.... yeah, that's his job, to set the direction for them, just as Murdoch does at FOX... and once again, the video cherry picked those specific things. What other stories did he tell them to put out besides the twitter thing? Of course they're not going to show any of that cause all they wanted to show was specific stuff about Trump as that's the message they want to put out.

I already said it's clear that CNN presents a bias just as everyone else does. It makes me sad what's happened with them over the last 4 years or so.

Here's the thing.. the video is labeled with "...  Jeff Zucker’s Personal Vendetta Against POTUS". There was no proof of that, just people's opinion that they think he hates Trump. The only thing I could maybe say is that he views FOX as bad for america and so is positioning things to combat that. That would be a really stupid idea as being biased to fight against bias is a losing strategy. But that's what happens when people get emotional and don't think rationally.

Part two is labeled "...CNN Leadership Picks Winners and Losers on Eve of Debate...". Again, no proof of that.

And also ".... They(CNN) like Warren a lot". No proof, just some guy saying what he thinks.

Maybe you should look at things objectively... for what they are, as opposed to looking for confirmation bias or what they want all the sheep to think.

You seem to be very confused about a lot of things. ''just people's opinion that they think he hates Trump.'' That's called witnesses? You know when you need to prove someone killed someone else you might actually need to use witnesses, the killer himself will probably not say it.

'' No proof, just some guy saying what he thinks.'' That's proof you dummy, lmao, what do you think proof is then, be careful your leftist bias is almost punching me through the screen.


https://www.youtube.com/user/CNN/videos

https://i.gyazo.com/3a0882c3fad59f5c3007db6276226a1a.jpg

'Cherry picking' LUL, when 80% of videos at CNN are about Trump or Impeachment. Even the ones that don't have trump in the name end up mentioning Trump sometimes. The bias is obvious, anyone who disagrees is simply an idiot.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: Viper1 on October 16, 2019, 12:02:54 PM
You seem to be very confused about a lot of things. ''just people's opinion that they think he hates Trump.'' That's called witnesses?
They didn't say they heard him say he hated him etc. That might be considered a witness, or hearsay. But that's not what they said.

you dummy

huh? lol

The bias is obvious, anyone who disagrees is simply an idiot.
You must be a mental midget or have reading comprehension issues. I said twice there is bias. What I said is that the video proves none of the claims as I pointed out.

And here's something to think about. Do we have proof all those people in the videos work at CNN? Do we know if any of it was staged or not? Do we know if that guys was a plant or not? I simply do not believe everything blindly like a good little sheep.

Not like any of it will matter soon. AI is going to make voice recordings useless as proof and then deep fakes will finish it off for videos and we'll all be fucked.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: Spendulus on October 16, 2019, 02:22:34 PM
....AI is going to make voice recordings useless as proof and then deep fakes will finish it off for videos and we'll all be fucked.

No. We'll be back where we were before recordings, when a person's word as to what he saw or heard is proof.

And the word of an AI is never trusted.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: Viper1 on October 16, 2019, 03:14:51 PM
....AI is going to make voice recordings useless as proof and then deep fakes will finish it off for videos and we'll all be fucked.

No. We'll be back where we were before recordings, when a person's word as to what he saw or heard is proof.

And the word of an AI is never trusted.
Maybe I wasn't clear with what I meant. AI/tech will soon be able to perfectly mimic a persons voice so that it's indistinguishable from the real thing. Voice recordings, pictures, video recordings... they'll all be just as useless as a fallible persons "word".


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: squatz1 on October 16, 2019, 03:32:14 PM
Many lost their money when Hillary Clinton lost that presidential elections against Trump. Trump was a heavy underdog when it comes to media talks and news. The betting odds look the same as the what the media portrait it is. I wish I did a bet on Trump that time because I felt it was a bit closer than in the news but still an underdog.

Media being bias, misleading and their mind conditioning strategies are actually normal as they are serving what benefits them and their sponsors most. Looking at this video just brings us back into reality and some deep realizations.

You cant truly tell me that 'betting odds' are the thing that you're using to show that people lost money in that election. Tons of people lost money, but the real money that was lost is the same money that is lost every year when 'your candidate' doesn't win. They lose, and all of the promises that they made to you aren't worth anything now. All the money that you spent propping up your candidate isn't going to make you anything cause they cant return the favor now.

This happens every year. Yes, maybe the Clintons had a LOT MORE money going to their charity and going to them as a whole -- as they did outraise trump like 2:1 -- but this isn't something new.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: Mometaskers on October 16, 2019, 03:49:42 PM
Just confirms what everyone knew for a long time. Fox probably do something similar but at with these we can say it's detestable in that it is trying to destabilize an administration.

Still not as infuriating as the Google leak though. With these media outfits, we kinda expect a certain degree of bias.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: KingScorpio on October 16, 2019, 05:42:58 PM
https://youtu.be/m7XZmugtLv4

Above is the link to the video. CNN employee tapes conversations of the bosses who no longer give a crap about honest reporting with integrity. They only want to bash Trump and republicans.

This is no surprise to anyone. But offers confirmation about their reporting motives.

american elite is so damn screwed thanks to trump.

You got it!  :D Now they are angrier day by day and doing what they can do to oust Trump.They  want power,to control and protect their interest. When Trump won,they launch an attack on him since day 1 until recently they want to impeach. Thats politics, hope they can find a great contender for the next upcoming election.

jes but if they would decapitate trump they might end up with the same situation like the communist party in russia that ousted gorbachev, and then got tank artilery fired out of their parliament by the russian military.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: TECSHARE on October 17, 2019, 06:42:56 PM
https://i.redd.it/xzp5qd3xqps31.jpg (https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/di8llp/the_real_reason_we_get_distorted_news_operation/)


https://www.congress.gov/bill/112th-congress/house-bill/5736


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: KingScorpio on October 17, 2019, 06:46:15 PM
cnn's "leftist" bias is a result of how capitalism works in social media.

besides there is no real left and right anytime soon. just people who want to have (or even have) power over others and those that do have none.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: TECSHARE on October 18, 2019, 01:33:34 AM
"CNN Ratings Hit NEW LOW Amid Leaks Proving They Push Fake News About Trump"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcKBU1kCuyQ


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: Spendulus on October 19, 2019, 04:17:46 PM
....AI is going to make voice recordings useless as proof and then deep fakes will finish it off for videos and we'll all be fucked.

No. We'll be back where we were before recordings, when a person's word as to what he saw or heard is proof.

And the word of an AI is never trusted.
Maybe I wasn't clear with what I meant. AI/tech will soon be able to perfectly mimic a persons voice so that it's indistinguishable from the real thing. Voice recordings, pictures, video recordings... they'll all be just as useless as a fallible persons "word".

I heard exactly what you said and heard a talk and read the speaker's paper in 2017 about exact voice mimicking. So reality's quite a way ahead of you.

Now go back and reread what I said refuting your conclusions about these advances.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: Viper1 on October 19, 2019, 04:39:17 PM
....AI is going to make voice recordings useless as proof and then deep fakes will finish it off for videos and we'll all be fucked.

No. We'll be back where we were before recordings, when a person's word as to what he saw or heard is proof.

And the word of an AI is never trusted.
Maybe I wasn't clear with what I meant. AI/tech will soon be able to perfectly mimic a persons voice so that it's indistinguishable from the real thing. Voice recordings, pictures, video recordings... they'll all be just as useless as a fallible persons "word".

I heard exactly what you said and heard a talk and read the speaker's paper in 2017 about exact voice mimicking. So reality's quite a way ahead of you.

Now go back and reread what I said refuting your conclusions about these advances.
You didn't refute anything but just made statement without any reasoning.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: Spendulus on October 19, 2019, 05:06:25 PM
....AI is going to make voice recordings useless as proof and then deep fakes will finish it off for videos and we'll all be fucked.

No. We'll be back where we were before recordings, when a person's word as to what he saw or heard is proof.

And the word of an AI is never trusted.
Maybe I wasn't clear with what I meant. AI/tech will soon be able to perfectly mimic a persons voice so that it's indistinguishable from the real thing. Voice recordings, pictures, video recordings... they'll all be just as useless as a fallible persons "word".

I heard exactly what you said and heard a talk and read the speaker's paper in 2017 about exact voice mimicking. So reality's quite a way ahead of you.

Now go back and reread what I said refuting your conclusions about these advances.
You didn't refute anything but just made statement without any reasoning.
Wrong. I provided a complete rebuttal to your assertion. Let me repeat it, since apparently you didn't get it.

ASSERTED: AI is going to make voice recordings useless as proof and then deep fakes will finish it off for videos and we'll all be fucked.

REBUTTED: No. We'll be back where we were before recordings, when a person's word as to what he saw or heard is proof. And the word of an AI is never trusted.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: Viper1 on October 19, 2019, 05:17:13 PM
REBUTTED: No. We'll be back where we were before recordings, when a person's word as to what he saw or heard is proof. And the word of an AI is never trusted.
Just a statement with no reasoning as to why it might be valid. Perhaps you have a hard time understand this. With the ability to create speech that can not be differentiated between fake and real, what a person heard cannot be trusted either.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: Astargath on October 19, 2019, 07:45:26 PM
REBUTTED: No. We'll be back where we were before recordings, when a person's word as to what he saw or heard is proof. And the word of an AI is never trusted.
Just a statement with no reasoning as to why it might be valid. Perhaps you have a hard time understand this. With the ability to create speech that can not be differentiated between fake and real, what a person heard cannot be trusted either.

That would be quite a specific case though, where someone somehow hears a voice that is actually AI made.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: KingScorpio on October 19, 2019, 10:01:20 PM
american right wingers will make america effectively a headless communist country, but they don't understand why.


Title: Re: CNN leftist bias proven on hidden camera.
Post by: Spendulus on October 21, 2019, 04:50:44 PM
https://youtu.be/m7XZmugtLv4

Above is the link to the video. CNN employee tapes conversations of the bosses who no longer give a crap about honest reporting with integrity. They only want to bash Trump and republicans.

This is no surprise to anyone. But offers confirmation about their reporting motives.

@PopoJeff when I opened this thread I believed this would be another fake news, but then I saw the entire 19 minute video and I realised this was real. It’s hard to believe but Trump was right all along, he kept screaming that media houses were against him and today it has been proved that he was correct...

It does seem that way. That now even people who believed the fake news lines, like who only watched the CNN/MSNBC type of stations, would now have to face that set of facts.

For them to face their spoon fed indoctrination in propaganda and anti-Trump lies is too much, of course, to expect. One step at a time.