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October 16, 2019, 11:38:28 AM |
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https://youtu.be/m7XZmugtLv4Above is the link to the video. CNN employee tapes conversations of the bosses who no longer give a crap about honest reporting with integrity. They only want to bash Trump and republicans. This is no surprise to anyone. But offers confirmation about their reporting motives. While bias is obvious, I don't see any proof of anything in there. Lots of guys having beers saying what they "think", not know as fact. No "smoking gun" type of thing. And as for the calls with Zucker etc, all I saw was cherry picked fragments. Context is everything and unless we hear everything they talked about, we can't get a clear picture. For example. The left went all crazy over that parody video of Trump taking out his foes in the church. I went and looked at a bunch of videos that guy/group have done and came away with the impression that it's nothing more than hero worship type of stuff, not that we need to "kill" the media or "enemies". So is there a veritas video of the same sort of thing for FOX? Would LOVE to see that one as it would be a hell of a lot of fun. Somehow I doubt they have or would do one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgMOBWXusYUHmm... you don't see proof of anything? The president of CNN, Zucker, literally telling people what to cover is not proof? He literally said, let's just keep covering the impeachment or hey, let's do this stupid story on Trump getting suspended on twitter, it's never going to happen, but let's do it. ummmm.... yeah, that's his job, to set the direction for them, just as Murdoch does at FOX... and once again, the video cherry picked those specific things. What other stories did he tell them to put out besides the twitter thing? Of course they're not going to show any of that cause all they wanted to show was specific stuff about Trump as that's the message they want to put out. I already said it's clear that CNN presents a bias just as everyone else does. It makes me sad what's happened with them over the last 4 years or so. Here's the thing.. the video is labeled with "... Jeff Zucker’s Personal Vendetta Against POTUS". There was no proof of that, just people's opinion that they think he hates Trump. The only thing I could maybe say is that he views FOX as bad for america and so is positioning things to combat that. That would be a really stupid idea as being biased to fight against bias is a losing strategy. But that's what happens when people get emotional and don't think rationally. Part two is labeled "...CNN Leadership Picks Winners and Losers on Eve of Debate...". Again, no proof of that. And also ".... They(CNN) like Warren a lot". No proof, just some guy saying what he thinks. Maybe you should look at things objectively... for what they are, as opposed to looking for confirmation bias or what they want all the sheep to think. You seem to be very confused about a lot of things. ''just people's opinion that they think he hates Trump.'' That's called witnesses? You know when you need to prove someone killed someone else you might actually need to use witnesses, the killer himself will probably not say it. '' No proof, just some guy saying what he thinks.'' That's proof you dummy, lmao, what do you think proof is then, be careful your leftist bias is almost punching me through the screen. https://www.youtube.com/user/CNN/videos![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.gyazo.com%2F3a0882c3fad59f5c3007db6276226a1a.jpg&t=665&c=6aV4rCRzYUtAGg) 'Cherry picking' LUL, when 80% of videos at CNN are about Trump or Impeachment. Even the ones that don't have trump in the name end up mentioning Trump sometimes. The bias is obvious, anyone who disagrees is simply an idiot.
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October 16, 2019, 12:02:54 PM |
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You seem to be very confused about a lot of things. ''just people's opinion that they think he hates Trump.'' That's called witnesses?
They didn't say they heard him say he hated him etc. That might be considered a witness, or hearsay. But that's not what they said. you dummy
huh? lol The bias is obvious, anyone who disagrees is simply an idiot.
You must be a mental midget or have reading comprehension issues. I said twice there is bias. What I said is that the video proves none of the claims as I pointed out. And here's something to think about. Do we have proof all those people in the videos work at CNN? Do we know if any of it was staged or not? Do we know if that guys was a plant or not? I simply do not believe everything blindly like a good little sheep. Not like any of it will matter soon. AI is going to make voice recordings useless as proof and then deep fakes will finish it off for videos and we'll all be fucked.
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October 16, 2019, 02:22:34 PM |
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....AI is going to make voice recordings useless as proof and then deep fakes will finish it off for videos and we'll all be fucked.
No. We'll be back where we were before recordings, when a person's word as to what he saw or heard is proof. And the word of an AI is never trusted.
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October 16, 2019, 03:14:51 PM |
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....AI is going to make voice recordings useless as proof and then deep fakes will finish it off for videos and we'll all be fucked.
No. We'll be back where we were before recordings, when a person's word as to what he saw or heard is proof. And the word of an AI is never trusted. Maybe I wasn't clear with what I meant. AI/tech will soon be able to perfectly mimic a persons voice so that it's indistinguishable from the real thing. Voice recordings, pictures, video recordings... they'll all be just as useless as a fallible persons "word".
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October 16, 2019, 03:32:14 PM |
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Many lost their money when Hillary Clinton lost that presidential elections against Trump. Trump was a heavy underdog when it comes to media talks and news. The betting odds look the same as the what the media portrait it is. I wish I did a bet on Trump that time because I felt it was a bit closer than in the news but still an underdog.
Media being bias, misleading and their mind conditioning strategies are actually normal as they are serving what benefits them and their sponsors most. Looking at this video just brings us back into reality and some deep realizations.
You cant truly tell me that 'betting odds' are the thing that you're using to show that people lost money in that election. Tons of people lost money, but the real money that was lost is the same money that is lost every year when 'your candidate' doesn't win. They lose, and all of the promises that they made to you aren't worth anything now. All the money that you spent propping up your candidate isn't going to make you anything cause they cant return the favor now. This happens every year. Yes, maybe the Clintons had a LOT MORE money going to their charity and going to them as a whole -- as they did outraise trump like 2:1 -- but this isn't something new.
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October 16, 2019, 03:49:42 PM |
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Just confirms what everyone knew for a long time. Fox probably do something similar but at with these we can say it's detestable in that it is trying to destabilize an administration.
Still not as infuriating as the Google leak though. With these media outfits, we kinda expect a certain degree of bias.
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KingScorpio
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October 16, 2019, 05:42:58 PM |
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https://youtu.be/m7XZmugtLv4Above is the link to the video. CNN employee tapes conversations of the bosses who no longer give a crap about honest reporting with integrity. They only want to bash Trump and republicans. This is no surprise to anyone. But offers confirmation about their reporting motives. american elite is so damn screwed thanks to trump. You got it! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Now they are angrier day by day and doing what they can do to oust Trump.They want power,to control and protect their interest. When Trump won,they launch an attack on him since day 1 until recently they want to impeach. Thats politics, hope they can find a great contender for the next upcoming election. jes but if they would decapitate trump they might end up with the same situation like the communist party in russia that ousted gorbachev, and then got tank artilery fired out of their parliament by the russian military.
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October 17, 2019, 06:42:56 PM |
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KingScorpio
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October 17, 2019, 06:46:15 PM |
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cnn's "leftist" bias is a result of how capitalism works in social media.
besides there is no real left and right anytime soon. just people who want to have (or even have) power over others and those that do have none.
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October 19, 2019, 04:17:46 PM |
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....AI is going to make voice recordings useless as proof and then deep fakes will finish it off for videos and we'll all be fucked.
No. We'll be back where we were before recordings, when a person's word as to what he saw or heard is proof. And the word of an AI is never trusted. Maybe I wasn't clear with what I meant. AI/tech will soon be able to perfectly mimic a persons voice so that it's indistinguishable from the real thing. Voice recordings, pictures, video recordings... they'll all be just as useless as a fallible persons "word". I heard exactly what you said and heard a talk and read the speaker's paper in 2017 about exact voice mimicking. So reality's quite a way ahead of you. Now go back and reread what I said refuting your conclusions about these advances.
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October 19, 2019, 04:39:17 PM |
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....AI is going to make voice recordings useless as proof and then deep fakes will finish it off for videos and we'll all be fucked.
No. We'll be back where we were before recordings, when a person's word as to what he saw or heard is proof. And the word of an AI is never trusted. Maybe I wasn't clear with what I meant. AI/tech will soon be able to perfectly mimic a persons voice so that it's indistinguishable from the real thing. Voice recordings, pictures, video recordings... they'll all be just as useless as a fallible persons "word". I heard exactly what you said and heard a talk and read the speaker's paper in 2017 about exact voice mimicking. So reality's quite a way ahead of you. Now go back and reread what I said refuting your conclusions about these advances. You didn't refute anything but just made statement without any reasoning.
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October 19, 2019, 05:06:25 PM |
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....AI is going to make voice recordings useless as proof and then deep fakes will finish it off for videos and we'll all be fucked.
No. We'll be back where we were before recordings, when a person's word as to what he saw or heard is proof. And the word of an AI is never trusted. Maybe I wasn't clear with what I meant. AI/tech will soon be able to perfectly mimic a persons voice so that it's indistinguishable from the real thing. Voice recordings, pictures, video recordings... they'll all be just as useless as a fallible persons "word". I heard exactly what you said and heard a talk and read the speaker's paper in 2017 about exact voice mimicking. So reality's quite a way ahead of you. Now go back and reread what I said refuting your conclusions about these advances. You didn't refute anything but just made statement without any reasoning. Wrong. I provided a complete rebuttal to your assertion. Let me repeat it, since apparently you didn't get it. ASSERTED: AI is going to make voice recordings useless as proof and then deep fakes will finish it off for videos and we'll all be fucked. REBUTTED: No. We'll be back where we were before recordings, when a person's word as to what he saw or heard is proof. And the word of an AI is never trusted.
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October 19, 2019, 05:17:13 PM |
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REBUTTED: No. We'll be back where we were before recordings, when a person's word as to what he saw or heard is proof. And the word of an AI is never trusted.
Just a statement with no reasoning as to why it might be valid. Perhaps you have a hard time understand this. With the ability to create speech that can not be differentiated between fake and real, what a person heard cannot be trusted either.
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October 19, 2019, 07:45:26 PM |
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REBUTTED: No. We'll be back where we were before recordings, when a person's word as to what he saw or heard is proof. And the word of an AI is never trusted.
Just a statement with no reasoning as to why it might be valid. Perhaps you have a hard time understand this. With the ability to create speech that can not be differentiated between fake and real, what a person heard cannot be trusted either. That would be quite a specific case though, where someone somehow hears a voice that is actually AI made.
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October 19, 2019, 10:01:20 PM |
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american right wingers will make america effectively a headless communist country, but they don't understand why.
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October 21, 2019, 04:50:44 PM |
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https://youtu.be/m7XZmugtLv4Above is the link to the video. CNN employee tapes conversations of the bosses who no longer give a crap about honest reporting with integrity. They only want to bash Trump and republicans. This is no surprise to anyone. But offers confirmation about their reporting motives. @PopoJeff when I opened this thread I believed this would be another fake news, but then I saw the entire 19 minute video and I realised this was real. It’s hard to believe but Trump was right all along, he kept screaming that media houses were against him and today it has been proved that he was correct... It does seem that way. That now even people who believed the fake news lines, like who only watched the CNN/MSNBC type of stations, would now have to face that set of facts. For them to face their spoon fed indoctrination in propaganda and anti-Trump lies is too much, of course, to expect. One step at a time.
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